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Horses don't. They carry the foal for about 11 months, but they don't nurse

for twice that long. In the wild they are usually impregnated again shortly

after the foal is born so by the time the first foal is about a year old,

the next one is ready to come out and the first one will be weaned. Also,

I've never seen a dog or a cat nurse for six months if allowed to nurse

without forced weaning. But maybe that rule doesn't apply for domesticated

mammals?

 

Ok, this just wouldn't leave me alone ... (it's about 20 minutes after I

wrote the above paragraph). I looked through my collection of animal books

and I must say that I couldn't find evidence for your statement. Actually I

couldn't see a pattern at all. Some species seem to nurse their young a lot

longer than their gestation period lasts, some a lot less. I don't think we

can generalize it like that. Since I don't have children of my own yet, I

couldn't tell you how long to nurse them though.

 

I have a question for Corrie (and anyone else that could answer it). Do you

have to have been pregnant once before your body will produce milk? Or could

a woman that has never been pregnant adopt an infant and nurse it?

 

Olesja

 

 

> " Joyce Divic " <jdivic

> RE: Re: breastfeeding

>

> Hi gang,

> For your information: All mammmals in the entire kingdom, without

> exception, breastfeed/nipplefeed their young for a period of time 2X the

> gestation period. So for us that would mean 9months + 9 months = 18

months

> ---- minimum.

>

> Alexa has her first tooth and yes I am looking forward to providing firm

> direction when she first decides to comfort her gums by biting down.

>

> smiles your way, joyce

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No, you don't have to have been pregnant in order to produce milk. There

are reported situations in which both humans and animals have been able to

produce milk simply in response to the suckling of the infant. In the

animal world, a lot of these are " adopted " babies of other species - such as

female dogs nursing kittens, for example. These occasionally make the

newspapers as a " human interest " story.

 

It does take commitment and persistence, but it is very possible for an

adoptive human mother to nurse her baby. There is a " supplemental nursing

system " that allows the baby to be fed formula via tubes attached to the

nipples, so the baby gets something to eat and the nursing is positively

reinforced. Then, the mother's body begins to produce the hormones

necessary for milk production.

 

Re. the previous comment about breast milk being the ultimate raw food - I

have to agree with that completely. Our lactation consultant at work talks

openly about the enzymes, and the fact that the breast milk is " alive " . I

have taken her aside at times and said, " that's exactly why I'm doing what

I'm doing with my diet " . Yet she continues to eat the junk food. I'm

always amazed at the emphasis on the ideal, " perfect " diet for infants, but

as the kids get older and eventually becomes adults, in the minds of most

people, " anything goes " .

 

By the way, I did nurse my children, but they're all grown now, our " baby "

just turned 24, our oldest is 30. Our daughter has nursed all 4 of her

children. I work with a program (WIC) that supports breastfeeding, and I

have been through the Evergreen Hospital course for lactation educators

(excellent course).

 

Sue

 

 

Olesja [olesja]

Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:20 PM

RawSeattle

Re: [RawSeattle] Digest Number 648

 

Horses don't. They carry the foal for about 11 months, but they don't nurse

for twice that long. In the wild they are usually impregnated again shortly

after the foal is born so by the time the first foal is about a year old,

the next one is ready to come out and the first one will be weaned. Also,

I've never seen a dog or a cat nurse for six months if allowed to nurse

without forced weaning. But maybe that rule doesn't apply for domesticated

mammals?

 

Ok, this just wouldn't leave me alone ... (it's about 20 minutes after I

wrote the above paragraph). I looked through my collection of animal books

and I must say that I couldn't find evidence for your statement. Actually I

couldn't see a pattern at all. Some species seem to nurse their young a lot

longer than their gestation period lasts, some a lot less. I don't think we

can generalize it like that. Since I don't have children of my own yet, I

couldn't tell you how long to nurse them though.

 

I have a question for Corrie (and anyone else that could answer it). Do you

have to have been pregnant once before your body will produce milk? Or could

a woman that has never been pregnant adopt an infant and nurse it?

 

Olesja

 

 

> " Joyce Divic " <jdivic

> RE: Re: breastfeeding

>

> Hi gang,

> For your information: All mammmals in the entire kingdom, without

> exception, breastfeed/nipplefeed their young for a period of time 2X the

> gestation period. So for us that would mean 9months + 9 months = 18

months

> ---- minimum.

>

> Alexa has her first tooth and yes I am looking forward to providing firm

> direction when she first decides to comfort her gums by biting down.

>

> smiles your way, joyce

 

 

 

 

 

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re: coffee

Hi Carson,

I just went through the coffee thing. I had been raw for several years,

then got back into coffee. Amond other things, it affected my sleep and

made my skin dry, especially on my hands. I was hoping it wouldn't have an

effect on me (very funny!) Now have cut it out. Sometimes I drink fresh

almond milk with carob, banana and vanilla blended in as a sub. Can't say

what coffee would do to you, tho.

Good luck,

Kathy

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