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Your Juicer Should Have Low Speeds to Protect Your VegetablesInexpensive

juicers are centrifugal and spin at very high speeds to do their juicing. Common

masticating and centrifugal juicers and blenders operate at high speed,

anywhere from 1,000 to 24,000 RPM. The high speeds heat up the juice and cause

damage

to some of the perishable nutrients in the vegetables.The Vitamixer is

probably the worst juicer in this category. It is advertised as as juicer but it

is

really a high powered blender and can actually grind grains. The blades spin

around at over 240 miles per hour. This high speed heats up the juice and

damages the perishable nutrients.

 

 

 

http://www.mercola.com/article/juicer.htm

 

Hi Kim,

 

Can you give me the URL of the source of your quote to Dr. Mercola, saying

the Vitamix kills nutrients?

I search his site and couldn't find anything.

 

If you use the Vitamix to make soup and you warm the water high than 105 to

118 degrees then I might believe what he is saying.

 

By the way for your info if you take room temperature water and blend it for

three minutes the temperature of the water will be about 105.5 degrees.

 

Dale

 

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Dale, I'm new to this..would you choice the VitaMixer over the Omega 8002? To

me the VitaMixer seems like it would be so much easier. We'd ordered my boss

a Omega 8002 which UPS didn't deliver it. I was going try his Omega. Now I'm

on my own to get whatever. Which model would you get? Kim

 

Hi Kim,

 

You send me an email and stated:

 

" Your Juicer Should Have Low Speeds to Protect Your Vegetables

juicers are centrifugal and spin at very high speeds to do their

juicing. Common masticating and centrifugal juicers and blenders

operate at high speed, anywhere from 1,000 to 24,000 RPM. The high

speeds heat up the juice and cause damage to some of the perishable

nutrients in the vegetables.The Vitamixer is probably the worst

juicer in this category. It is advertised as juicer but it is really

a high powered blender and can actually grind grains. The blades

spin around at over 240 miles per hour. This high speed heats up the

juice and damages the perishable nutrients. "

 

My Reply

 

I know you have heard of radiators, when you use a Vit-a-Mix you

usually have two or three cups of water and that keeps whatever is

being blended cool.  If my science is correct, the highest

temperature any molecule in a mix is the temperature of the mix. I

am not a rocket scientist, so I hope some one will set me straight

if I'm wrong.

 

I juice fruit in the morning and I always mix three cups of water to

one cup of ice to the mix. So the fruit is never warm in the Vit-a-

mix.

 

As I stated in my email to the group I never let my water temp get

over 105.5 degrees.

 

I own three different types of juicers, worm gear, centrifugal,

blender, and I will take the Vit-a-mix over any other one for easy

of use and nutrition.

 

Both with the worm gear and centrifugal juicer, you throw away the

pulp, which contain a lot of nutrition. And also with the with the

worm gear and centrifugal juicer, there is heat generated through

friction, but there is no water to keep it cool.

 

If I were sick and wanted to keep give my digestion system a break,

I would maybe use a  worm gear and centrifugal juicer, but I'm not

sure even then I might not because of all the nutrition being wasted.

 

Bottom line, I believe that the Vit-a-mix prepares things closer to

nature than the worm gear and centrifugal juicer.

 

So continue, using what over or using, but I base my faith on that

the Vit-a-mix does what I want.

 

P.S. If I listened to Dr. Mercola, I wouldn't be a Raw Foodist, now:

 

The Naïve Vegetarian

http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/2/vegetarian.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/9/vegetarian2.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/13/vegetarian3.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/16/vegetarian4.htm

 

Strict Vegan Diets May Be Dangerous

 

Philosophically, I continue to believe that a predominantly plant-

based and

uncooked diet is the best thing for the long- term health of most

people.

Personally, I would estimate somewhere between 5% and 10% of my

current diet

also includes animal foods.

 

http://www.mercola.com/article/Diet/former_vegan.htm

 

Food as Medicine: Does it Really Work?

 

What can you do? The good news is plenty, as you are the one who

controls what

goes into your body. Choose foods that have the greatest nutritional

value and

that go along with your metabolic type and then try to eat them in a

way that will

maximize their nutrients. In most cases, this means raw. At least

one-third of all

the food you eat should be raw, as cooking and processing can

destroy essential

micronutrients.

 

http://www.mercola.com/2004/jan/28/food_medicine.htm

 

 

Freezing or cooking vegetables will damage the highly perishable

micronutrients that

aren't even recognized, let alone measured, by food scientists.

Biophotons are one type

of these micronutrients.

http://www.mercola.com/2003/apr/19/frozen_vegetables.htm

 

 

 

I suspect most of us would notice significant improvements in our

health and energy if we

increased the amounts of living raw foods in our diet. If you

vegetable juice it is quite easy

to consume over 50% of your foods as raw. I currently believe that a

goal might be to approach

80% or more of your diet as uncooked foods.

 

So what is so special about living raw food? I have compiled the

following resources to capture

some of my recent thoughts on this fascinating subject. I hope this

will spark future discussions

on the upcoming collaborative interactive site we are preparing for

later this year.

 

http://www.mercola.com/2002/aug/21/biophoton.htm

 

A fellow rawative,

 

May God bless you and yours,

 

Dale

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Kim,

 

You send me an email and stated:

 

" Your Juicer Should Have Low Speeds to Protect Your Vegetables

juicers are centrifugal and spin at very high speeds to do their

juicing. Common masticating and centrifugal juicers and blenders

operate at high speed, anywhere from 1,000 to 24,000 RPM. The high

speeds heat up the juice and cause damage to some of the perishable

nutrients in the vegetables.The Vitamixer is probably the worst

juicer in this category. It is advertised as juicer but it is really

a high powered blender and can actually grind grains. The blades

spin around at over 240 miles per hour. This high speed heats up the

juice and damages the perishable nutrients. "

 

My Reply

 

I know you have heard of radiators, when you use a Vit-a-Mix you

usually have two or three cups of water and that keeps whatever is

being blended cool. If my science is correct, the highest

temperature any molecule in a mix is the temperature of the mix. I

am not a rocket scientist, so I hope some one will set me straight

if I'm wrong.

 

I juice fruit in the morning and I always mix three cups of water to

one cup of ice to the mix. So the fruit is never warm in the Vit-a-

mix.

 

As I stated in my email to the group I never let my water temp get

over 105.5 degrees.

 

I own three different types of juicers, worm gear, centrifugal,

blender, and I will take the Vit-a-mix over any other one for easy

of use and nutrition.

 

Both with the worm gear and centrifugal juicer, you throw away the

pulp, which contain a lot of nutrition. And also with the with the

worm gear and centrifugal juicer, there is heat generated through

friction, but there is no water to keep it cool.

 

If I were sick and wanted to keep give my digestion system a break,

I would maybe use a worm gear and centrifugal juicer, but I'm not

sure even then I might not because of all the nutrition being wasted.

 

Bottom line, I believe that the Vit-a-mix prepares things closer to

nature than the worm gear and centrifugal juicer.

 

So continue, using what over or using, but I base my faith on that

the Vit-a-mix does what I want.

 

P.S. If I listened to Dr. Mercola, I wouldn't be a Raw Foodist, now:

 

The Naïve Vegetarian

http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/2/vegetarian.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/9/vegetarian2.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/13/vegetarian3.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/16/vegetarian4.htm

 

Strict Vegan Diets May Be Dangerous

 

Philosophically, I continue to believe that a predominantly plant-

based and

uncooked diet is the best thing for the long- term health of most

people.

Personally, I would estimate somewhere between 5% and 10% of my

current diet

also includes animal foods.

 

http://www.mercola.com/article/Diet/former_vegan.htm

 

Food as Medicine: Does it Really Work?

 

What can you do? The good news is plenty, as you are the one who

controls what

goes into your body. Choose foods that have the greatest nutritional

value and

that go along with your metabolic type and then try to eat them in a

way that will

maximize their nutrients. In most cases, this means raw. At least

one-third of all

the food you eat should be raw, as cooking and processing can

destroy essential

micronutrients.

 

http://www.mercola.com/2004/jan/28/food_medicine.htm

 

 

Freezing or cooking vegetables will damage the highly perishable

micronutrients that

aren't even recognized, let alone measured, by food scientists.

Biophotons are one type

of these micronutrients.

http://www.mercola.com/2003/apr/19/frozen_vegetables.htm

 

 

 

I suspect most of us would notice significant improvements in our

health and energy if we

increased the amounts of living raw foods in our diet. If you

vegetable juice it is quite easy

to consume over 50% of your foods as raw. I currently believe that a

goal might be to approach

80% or more of your diet as uncooked foods.

 

So what is so special about living raw food? I have compiled the

following resources to capture

some of my recent thoughts on this fascinating subject. I hope this

will spark future discussions

on the upcoming collaborative interactive site we are preparing for

later this year.

 

http://www.mercola.com/2002/aug/21/biophoton.htm

 

A fellow rawative,

 

May God bless you and yours,

 

Dale

 

 

rawfood , palomino03@a... wrote:

> Your Juicer Should Have Low Speeds to Protect Your

VegetablesInexpensive

> juicers are centrifugal and spin at very high speeds to do their

juicing. Common

> masticating and centrifugal juicers and blenders operate at high

speed,

> anywhere from 1,000 to 24,000 RPM. The high speeds heat up the

juice and cause damage

> to some of the perishable nutrients in the vegetables.The

Vitamixer is

> probably the worst juicer in this category. It is advertised as as

juicer but it is

> really a high powered blender and can actually grind grains. The

blades spin

> around at over 240 miles per hour. This high speed heats up the

juice and

> damages the perishable nutrients.

>

>

>

> http://www.mercola.com/article/juicer.htm

>

> Hi Kim,

>

> Can you give me the URL of the source of your quote to Dr.

Mercola, saying

> the Vitamix kills nutrients?

> I search his site and couldn't find anything.

>

> If you use the Vitamix to make soup and you warm the water high

than 105 to

> 118 degrees then I might believe what he is saying.

>

> By the way for your info if you take room temperature water and

blend it for

> three minutes the temperature of the water will be about 105.5

degrees.

>

> Dale

>

> I posted it..

>

 

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Hi Kim,

 

My answer to your questions is it depends, If I were selling

juicers, which I don't, I would tell you to buy the Norwalk Juicer [

http://norwalkjuicers.com/ ], it has the best taste of all juice

I've tasted, but it would cost you $1650.00, for a preowned refurb.

model. And I hear that it takes over a half an hour to clean.

 

We bought our first Juiceman in about 1989, I believe, it worked

well, my wife used it all the time, until we bought our first Vita-

mix, about five or six years ago, I have never heard a bad word

about customer service, a friend dropped a spoon in his, and they

replaced parts with no questions asked. I emailed them a few weeks

ago, and told them we were getting cracks in the bottom of our wet

container, no leaks, and Vita-mix set us a new container no

questions asked, with free shipping too. You can't ask for better

service that!

 

I bought a used Champion in about 1991 and never really used it that

much. Last summer I decided that I wanted to do wheatgrass with an

electric juicer, we own a manual one and it works but not to much

fun. And the Champion and the Juiceman don't do wheatgrass. I

looked at the Omega 8001, but I decided to get the Dimension 2000

One Gear Juicer, it is similar to the Omega 8001, and almost a

hundred dollars cheaper. My wife was out of town last summer, and I

did a lot of juicing while she was gone, the Dimension 2000, works

great, even does wheatgrass well. And I thought it was a lot easer

to clean up than the Juiceman or the Champion.

 

A little over three year ago, I found out that I have diabetes, I

believe I got it from drinking two or three forty oz. cokes a day,

after I quite smoking, and started to seep Cokes all day while

working on the computer. Anyway, that is the only thing I can think

of, other than that, I have thought I ate well, never was much of a

meat eater, always loved veggies, but sweet were my down fall.

 

I have keep my blood sugar pretty well in control, I have all my

meter readings since Oct. 2000, My year averages are in the low one

teens (100-115), without meds. I never taken meds. But I have read

that if I didn't keep my blood sugar in the normal range, that I was

opening myself up for complications, and I consider normal reading

are in the range of sixty to ninety. I know that vegetarians and

vegan get cancer, so I think there is something still wrong with

that lifestyle, and to me it is in the processing of food. So I

decided that a raw food or living food diet was the way to go, so

January 1 of 2004 I went completely raw. I decided that I wanted an

easy way to fix my breakfast and lunch at work. I bought a

KitchenAid, I thought the best they made, but it just was as good as

a Vita-mix. So, I bought another Vita-mix to use at work, I bought

the 4500, and it works well, but I decided I want a variable speed

one like we have at home. So I went out and bought a Vita-mix 5000,

will keep the 4500 and maybe give as a gift or use it to demo and

spread the word about the Raw Food Diet.

 

I don't like juiced sprouts or raw sprouts that much, but when I

make my soup in my Vita-mix I love them. My soup Friday was:

 

Put in Vita-mix:

 

1 med. New Potato

1/2 Cup lentil sprouts

1/2 Cup pea sprouts

5 stocks of asparagus (the whole stock)

1/4 Cup almonds

1 leaf of romaine lettuce

1 stock celery

1 med apple

1/8 lemon with rine

2 teaspoons of curry powder

1/8 teaspoon red pepper powder

3 Cups water at room temp.

 

Blended the above for three minutes. (should bring temperature to

105 degrees from room temp.)

 

Makes little more than 4 one cups servings.

 

I mix a bowl for myself, but make five smaller servings to share

with my raw buddies who aren't raw. I call them my tasters.

Anyway, before you put the soup in the bowls place a little shredded

cabbage, chopped up celery, and a few walnuts in each bowl, believe

me this makes all the difference in the world to the soup. I can't

tell you all the people who love my soups because of the chewies, as

I call them. I learned the trick from Victoria off of one of her

videos.

 

Then pour in the soup.

 

Note: It only takes me about fifteen minutes for me, no my wife, to

prepare my breakfast and lunch food stuff in the morning before

work. It takes me less the three minutes a work to fix my lunch and

the bowls I share. and only two or three minutes to clean up. To fix

my breakfast at work it takes one and a half minutes to fix my

breakfast, and about two minutes to clean up.

 

My breakfast drink Friday Was:

 

1 med apple

1/2 lemon with rine

1 cup frozen cranberries (fresh cranberries I froze)

1 kiwifruit (ends cut off, but unpeeled "

1 cup ice

3 cups water

 

Makes 4 cups. ( I usually drink 16 ozs. and share the rest with co-

workers)

 

Anyway the food and the Vita-mix has helped me lower my blood sugar,

my average Dec. 2003 readings were 108, my average Feb 2004 readings

were 78, so in two months my average readings dropped 30 points! I

have lost 17 pounds, and also my blood pressure is lower. My

average blood pressure was 129/84 in Dec. 2003 and 120/78 for the

month of Feb. 2004.

 

To answer your question, if I were sick and wanted to give my body

max nutrition with less stress on my digestive system then I would

buy the Dimension 2000, that why we have one around, but if I

wanted a tool for max nutrition when I was well, then for me the

Vita-mix is the only way to go. I have my smoothies in the morning,

my soups for lunch, and my Carob drink at nights if I want it.

 

By the way Ann Wigmore wrote a whole book on blending, " The Blending

Book " .

 

She states on page 7, " 'Why blend practically everything that is

eaten?' The answer is simple. Blending is the easiest and most

efficient way to provide food that both nourishing and easy to

digest. By blending foods, we can counteract the poor eating habits

most of us have developed over the years, and that are the cause of

many of the physical problems we have. "

 

She states on page 11, " My personal opinion is that a diet should

consist of 70 percent blended foods and 30 percent other living

foods "

 

She also states on page 35, " At the Ann Wigmore Foundation, we use a

Vita-Mix blender; I have found that this is the best blender to use

in the long run. "

 

I hope this give you an idea of where I'm coming from, where I am

going, and why I made my choices.

 

If you would like to see some pictures of me preparing my soup go to:

http://www.hishealingways.com/albums/album2.html

 

May God bless you and yours,

 

Dale

 

P.S.

 

My Carob Drinks:

 

1 frozen banana

4 or 5 pitted dates or (4 or 5 tablespoons raisins)

1 Cups soaked almonds (soak 8 to 12 hours)

2 Tablespoons raw carob

2 Tablespoons Flaxseeds

1 Cup ice

3 Cups Water

 

Or for a lighter version:

 

1 frozen banana

4 or 5 pitted dates or (4 or 5 tablespoons raisins)

2 Tablespoons raw carob

3 Tablespoons Flaxseeds

1 Cup ice

3 Cups Water

 

 

-

PALOMINO03

rawfood

Cc: dwing

Saturday, March 06, 2004 2:59 PM

Re: [Raw Food] 4 -Vita Mix

 

 

Dale, I'm new to this..would you choice the VitaMixer over the Omega

8002? To me the VitaMixer seems like it would be so much easier.

We'd ordered my boss a Omega 8002 which UPS didn't deliver it. I was

going try his Omega. Now I'm on my own to get whatever. Which model

would you get? Kim

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> I emailed them a few weeks

> ago, and told them we were getting cracks in the bottom of our wet

> container, no leaks, and Vita-mix set us a new container no

> questions asked, with free shipping too. You can't ask for better

> service that!

 

I had to pay $25 per container for mine (I needed two) and shipping!

~Wendy

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