deep stuff!

[Guest guest]

I am writing this with hopes that someone out there can

shine a ray of hope or point me in a direction which will enable me to help

structure my home in a way that my daughter (3) grows up with a sense of

belonging and knowing who she is, why she is here and what purpose we all serve.

(That’s

not asking too much, eh J ha!)

 

I was brought up in a home where religion ~ per se ~ was not

really discussed. When I was 12 or

13 a neighbor asked me what religion I was. Of course, not knowing, I went to ask my

mother. Her response was “Christian”. So I proudly went to tell my friend I

was Christian. My friend replied, “Duh!

But what type?” Dumbfounded I

went back to my mother and said, ”what type?”

She replied, “ WHY? You’re just Christian,

that’s all they need to know.” (Never mind the fact that I didn’t

know what Christian was!)

 

My father came from a horrible experience at Sunday School that evidently rocked his world so badly that he

thought church wasn’t important if you are a good person.

My mom was lost in finding a church that didn’t focus

on fear and everyone being a sinner.

They both believed in God and thought they had conveyed that to my

brother and me, but both of us are still, 30 years later, lost in life’s

meaning and our purpose.

 

I do believe there is more to life than what we see and

think of as life. I believe we are

all connected through energy and light in some way. I don’t necessarily believe in the

whole “heaven or hell” mentality as posed by the Catholic Church,

among others. I do think religion

takes many forms which are all correct in that they give people a sense of

security, belonging and connection. I almost think all religions pray to the

same “God” only in different forms. I think spirituality can be

reached without a structured church setting, but would like that for guidance

and support. If put on the spot, I’d have to say that I

believe in previous lives and future lives, some sort of parallel universe and/or

continuously cycling energy. I think being here on earth is only part

of the path we are intended to take.

 

 

My question to you, is there a structured religion that

shares some of the beliefs that I listed above? I read many of these raw food books and Louise

Hay books, it seems like many of us really do think along the same lines as far

as energy and thoughts and I wonder if there is a structured religion that organizes these beliefs

for people to “worship” together. I want some form of more structured

religion where I can take my daughter or practice with her at home. I don’t feel that I can teach her

all there is to know because I feel I know very little. I would like some guidance in this arena.

I don’t want her to grow up like I did. I want to be able to help guide her with

her spirituality, yet, I don’t know how. I am also certain I need more than just leading/teaching

by living it and hoping that it diffuses into her. I want to set her up so the evolution of

her spirituality is a continuous part of her existence.

 

I understand religion/spirituality is a sensitive issue for

many people. That’s one

reason it is so powerful and I want to give that gift to my daughter. But in the same regard, I am hesitant of

posting this for those very same reasons.

So, please understand that I am soul searching and don’t mean to

step on any toes. I have spent much

of my life searching for a sense of being…I went through years of

suicidal tendencies as a teen because I couldn’t find a meaning to it

all. I want more for my daughter

and though I feel some peace with the path I have chosen and the understandings

I have about our existence, my ideas are more on an understanding level as

opposed to a comprehension or application level where I can affectively pass

this sense on to her. I want her to

grow up strong with a definite sense of being, a sense of being one.

 

I am asking all of you because I feel we are on

similar paths and maybe some of you have found a religion that I have yet to

discover.

 

I have done searches online, I have read religion books, but

I have not really found what I’m looking for, though I’m sure it must

be out there. I see tiny bits and

pieces of it in many different religions (Jewish, Buddah,

Scientology, Native Americans, Native Hawiians ~terminology???, Greek Gods etc….) Then more profoundly in books

about raw food, spiritual growth and the like. Does anyone have any recommendations of

avenues I can explore. I am looking for a structured religion

or path to spirituality which focuses on more nature

friendly, earth friendly, unity. (Or something like

that!) J

 

I guess this is what they mean when they say you will pull

up issues as you detox! Ha!

 

Thank you.

 

BEV

 

[Guest guest]

Bev,

I don't have time to expound on your question right now, but I know there are churches out there like that. I will check one place when I get a chance and get back to you with a name. I believe the Bible teaches us the personality of God and how we can come to know Him and the power of His love as seen in Jesus. I also have seen "New Age" folks who really seem to know the power of God (energy/light, etc stuff). I am trying to learn more from them so I can have a powerful, loving, energized life where God's love and compassion flow through me to the world.

Are you coming to the raw pot luck? If so, I'd love to talk more then.

Nancy

 

 

Beverly Coose [mermaidcharter] Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:59 PM Subject: deep stuff!

 

I am writing this with hopes that someone out there can shine a ray of hope or point me in a direction which will enable me to help structure my home in a way that my daughter (3) grows up with a sense of belonging and knowing who she is, why she is here and what purpose we all serve.

(That’s not asking too much, eh J ha!)

 

I was brought up in a home where religion ~ per se ~ was not really discussed. When I was 12 or 13 a neighbor asked me what religion I was. Of course, not knowing, I went to ask my mother. Her response was “Christian”. So I proudly went to tell my friend I was Christian. My friend replied, “Duh! But what type?” Dumbfounded I went back to my mother and said, ”what type?” She replied, “ WHY? You’re just Christian, that’s all they need to know.” (Never mind the fact that I didn’t know what Christian was!)

 

My father came from a horrible experience at Sunday School that evidently rocked his world so badly that he thought church wasn’t important if you are a good person.

My mom was lost in finding a church that didn’t focus on fear and everyone being a sinner. They both believed in God and thought they had conveyed that to my brother and me, but both of us are still, 30 years later, lost in life’s meaning and our purpose.

 

I do believe there is more to life than what we see and think of as life. I believe we are all connected through energy and light in some way. I don’t necessarily believe in the whole “heaven or hell” mentality as posed by the Catholic Church, among others. I do think religion takes many forms which are all correct in that they give people a sense of security, belonging and connection. I almost think all religions pray to the same “God” only in different forms. I think spirituality can be reached without a structured church setting, but would like that for guidance and support. If put on the spot, I’d have to say that I believe in previous lives and future lives, some sort of parallel universe and/or continuously cycling energy. I think being here on earth is only part of the path we are intended to take.

 

My question to you, is there a structured religion that shares some of the beliefs that I listed above? I read many of these raw food books and Louise Hay books, it seems like many of us really do think along the same lines as far as energy and thoughts and I wonder if there is a structured religion that organizes these beliefs for people to “worship” together. I want some form of more structured religion where I can take my daughter or practice with her at home. I don’t feel that I can teach her all there is to know because I feel I know very little. I would like some guidance in this arena. I don’t want her to grow up like I did. I want to be able to help guide her with her spirituality, yet, I don’t know how. I am also certain I need more than just leading/teaching by living it and hoping that it diffuses into her. I want to set her up so the evolution of her spirituality is a continuous part of her existence.

 

I understand religion/spirituality is a sensitive issue for many people. That’s one reason it is so powerful and I want to give that gift to my daughter. But in the same regard, I am hesitant of posting this for those very same reasons. So, please understand that I am soul searching and don’t mean to step on any toes. I have spent much of my life searching for a sense of being…I went through years of suicidal tendencies as a teen because I couldn’t find a meaning to it all. I want more for my daughter and though I feel some peace with the path I have chosen and the understandings I have about our existence, my ideas are more on an understanding level as opposed to a comprehension or application level where I can affectively pass this sense on to her. I want her to grow up strong with a definite sense of being, a sense of being one.

 

I am asking all of you because I feel we are on similar paths and maybe some of you have found a religion that I have yet to discover.

 

I have done searches online, I have read religion books, but I have not really found what I’m looking for, though I’m sure it must be out there. I see tiny bits and pieces of it in many different religions (Jewish, Buddah, Scientology, Native Americans, Native Hawiians ~terminology???, Greek Gods etc….) Then more profoundly in books about raw food, spiritual growth and the like. Does anyone have any recommendations of avenues I can explore. I am looking for a structured religion or path to spirituality which focuses on more nature friendly, earth friendly, unity. (Or something like that!) J

 

I guess this is what they mean when they say you will pull up issues as you detox! Ha!

 

Thank you.

 

BEV

 

[Guest guest]

Beverly,

I am a Christian. We teach that to be a Christian is to be Christ

like. So the next question is...what was Christ like? Christ

operated is love at all time. Not just towards people that were

lovable, but towards those who hated him and wanted to see him dead.

What is the definition of love? Galatians 5:22-23 says But the fruit

of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness,

goodness, faith, meekness, temperance...

 

I do believe that no one will truly know all the answers about why we

are here, how we came to be, or what else is out there. To me it

really doesn't make any difference if we can't get along.

 

That is the way I raise my family. To treat each other with love

regardless of who they are, what they've done or what they believe. I

hope this helps. Please email me if you would like to talk more in

detail.

 

-Agape Love,

Contessa

 

 

, " Beverly Coose " <mermaidcharter@c...>

wrote:

> I am writing this with hopes that someone out there can shine a ray

of

> hope or point me in a direction which will enable me to help

structure

> my home in a way that my daughter (3) grows up with a sense of

belonging

> and knowing who she is, why she is here and what purpose we all

serve.

> (That's not asking too much, eh :-) ha!)

>

> I was brought up in a home where religion ~ per se ~ was not really

> discussed. When I was 12 or 13 a neighbor asked me what religion I

was.

> Of course, not knowing, I went to ask my mother. Her response was

> " Christian " . So I proudly went to tell my friend I was Christian.

My

> friend replied, " Duh! But what type? " Dumbfounded I went back to my

> mother and said, " what type? " She replied, " WHY? You're just

Christian,

> that's all they need to know. " (Never mind the fact that I didn't

know

> what Christian was!)

>

> My father came from a horrible experience at Sunday School that

> evidently rocked his world so badly that he thought church wasn't

> important if you are a good person.

> My mom was lost in finding a church that didn't focus on fear and

> everyone being a sinner. They both believed in God and thought

they had

> conveyed that to my brother and me, but both of us are still, 30

years

> later, lost in life's meaning and our purpose.

>

> I do believe there is more to life than what we see and think of as

> life. I believe we are all connected through energy and light in

some

> way. I don't necessarily believe in the whole " heaven or hell "

> mentality as posed by the Catholic Church, among others. I do think

> religion takes many forms which are all correct in that they give

people

> a sense of security, belonging and connection. I almost think all

> religions pray to the same " God " only in different forms. I think

> spirituality can be reached without a structured church setting, but

> would like that for guidance and support. If put on the spot, I'd

have

> to say that I believe in previous lives and future lives, some sort

of

> parallel universe and/or continuously cycling energy. I think being

> here on earth is only part of the path we are intended to take.

>

> My question to you, is there a structured religion that shares some

of

> the beliefs that I listed above? I read many of these raw food

books

> and Louise Hay books, it seems like many of us really do think

along the

> same lines as far as energy and thoughts and I wonder if there is a

> structured religion that organizes these beliefs for people to

" worship "

> together. I want some form of more structured religion where I can

take

> my daughter or practice with her at home. I don't feel that I can

teach

> her all there is to know because I feel I know very little. I would

> like some guidance in this arena. I don't want her to grow up like I

> did. I want to be able to help guide her with her spirituality,

yet, I

> don't know how. I am also certain I need more than just

> leading/teaching by living it and hoping that it diffuses into her.

I

> want to set her up so the evolution of her spirituality is a

continuous

> part of her existence.

>

> I understand religion/spirituality is a sensitive issue for many

people.

> That's one reason it is so powerful and I want to give that gift to

my

> daughter. But in the same regard, I am hesitant of posting this for

> those very same reasons. So, please understand that I am soul

searching

> and don't mean to step on any toes. I have spent much of my life

> searching for a sense of being.I went through years of suicidal

> tendencies as a teen because I couldn't find a meaning to it all. I

> want more for my daughter and though I feel some peace with the

path I

> have chosen and the understandings I have about our existence, my

ideas

> are more on an understanding level as opposed to a comprehension or

> application level where I can affectively pass this sense on to

her. I

> want her to grow up strong with a definite sense of being, a sense

of

> being one.

>

> I am asking all of you because I feel we are on similar paths and

maybe

> some of you have found a religion that I have yet to discover.

>

> I have done searches online, I have read religion books, but I have

not

> really found what I'm looking for, though I'm sure it must be out

there.

> I see tiny bits and pieces of it in many different religions

(Jewish,

> Buddah, Scientology, Native Americans, Native Hawiians

~terminology???,

> Greek Gods etc..) Then more profoundly in books about raw food,

> spiritual growth and the like. Does anyone have any

recommendations of

> avenues I can explore. I am looking for a structured religion or

path

> to spirituality which focuses on more nature friendly, earth

friendly,

> unity. (Or something like that!) :-)

>

> I guess this is what they mean when they say you will pull up

issues as

> you detox! Ha!

>

> Thank you.

>

> BEV

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bev for being intimate w/the group and sharing your love for your

daughter. You know very little (not true just a story you tell yourself). I'm a

reader of Loiuse hay also and appreciate hersense of ease and understanding.

When sharing similiar concerns w/people I am often told I haven't been to their

church it's different. Rather than try everyones church I've become at peace

w/not being conscious of everything all the time. I've been studying Taos for a

bit and it seems more about a way of living than a religion. It also talks about

things like eating, sexuality, excercise and other topics I don't hear in the

churches I've been to. Maybe this concept of every Sunday or whatever type of

religious structure is just a concept and neither right or wrong, just a

possible way. I sense you will realize soon that you may be evolved a lot more

than you give yourself credit for and more than some of the religious leaders

you may be seeking answers from. Often it's about us being willing to accept how

wonderful and gifted we are right at the moment not someday. Does someday really

exist.

peace and inspiration on your way,

Mark