Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 <(not the drug kind or the squeeze-you-the-cultural-straightjacket kind)> I LOVE this side-bar. <I've often thought about drug rehab centers where people cleansed and fasted, learned to eat correctly, diagnosed food allergies, did as deep bodywork as they could handle, went through the 12 steps,learned hatha yoga, relaxation and meditation. These are all the things that I credit to my true recovery from drug addiction. I still refer to myself as a recovering addict, which to me refers to a way of being in/with the world that is dysfunctional that I'm constantly inthe process of healing from at deeper and deeper levels. I feel that cleansing, be it internal(fasting, enemas, dietary change, relaxing, meditating, developing a spiritual life through surrender to a Higher Power) or external (removing toxicity in one's immediate environment, be it foods, household items, jobs, relationships) is a huge part of the "changing the things that I can" part of recovery (to quote part of the Serenity Prayer) I can say in all honesty and modesty that I no longer crave cocaine, amphetamines, nicotine, or any of the other heavy-duty poisons I would self-medicate with. This attitude got me in trouble in my NA meetings, so sadly I'm no longer an active member. I felt the whole notion of being a cocaine addict for the rest of my life to not be true for me at some point. I'd like others to find that kind of peace, as well. I strive for complete recovery, aka nirvana, enlightenment, transcendence, etc.etc.> Me too. I am still an active member, too many need our experience, strength and hope. I do clear more mind and subconscious injuries in Scientology. I am new there and have taken 2 classes that have helped. "The point is we grow along spritual lines".. the one recovery books says. I take that to mean body, mind and spirit. The longer I am on earth the more I think they are all interconnected. I saved you post. <Ok, I've rambled a bit. i can only hope that this self-indulgent rambling might be of some use to you Blessings, Elise> No you didn't Elise... most recovery people say that when they think they have talked too long. Rambling is going on and on over the same thing and I think it is being boring also ... you weree NOT boring - at least to me.. Louise www.thehungersite.com Click once a day for 1 cup of food (sometimes more... probably not raw : - ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Greetings. i too am a freind of bill w and jimmy k. although i don't attend regularly, my spirit tells me when to go and inevitably there is someone there for me to exchange gifts w/. although i don't believe in a lot of the philosophy, i like what they say in the big book of the other A. "....is spiriual kindergarden". keeping that in mind helps w/ expectations. peace, Mark JoyloulinTo: Sent: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:38:33 EDT clearing...cleansing.. <(not the drug kind or thesqueeze-you-the-cultural-straightjacket kind)>I LOVE this side-bar. <I've often thought about drug rehab centers wherepeople cleansed and fasted, learned to eat correctly,diagnosed food allergies, did as deep bodywork as theycould handle, went through the 12 steps,learned hathayoga, relaxation and meditation. These are all thethings that I credit to my true recovery from drugaddiction. I still refer to myself as a recoveringaddict, which to me refers to a way of being in/withthe world that is dysfunctional that I'm constantlyinthe process of healing from at deeper and deeperlevels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Hi, Louise I think it is great that you are still involved in the meetings. I'd love to see fresh fruit and nuts replace the coffee and cigarettes! lol The 12 Steps are so helpful, but I feel that people should be encouraged to look beyond the substance at some point (obviously not at the beginning), which is really just a symptom of a much bigger problem. Good luck in getting thie raw message out there! Elise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Hee hee! I've wondered if my whole incarnation on this lovely planet isn't spiritual kindergarten! Thanks, Mark. I think I will go shake some dust off of the ol' Big Book. Haven't done that in a while. Blessings, Elise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 The earth is just a school. We're all in boarding school! satvicveganElise Hayden-Ferdman <ehaydenf wrote: Hee hee! I've wondered if my whole incarnation on thislovely planet isn't spiritual kindergarten! Thanks,Mark. I think I will go shake some dust off of the ol'Big Book. Haven't done that in a while.Blessings,Elise for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.