spinach,underground water & ecoli

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In a message dated 10/27/2006 5:02:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, arcadiapress writes:

 

Hello /Michael:

 

I live in a rural area where there are many "organic" farmers and was recently dismayed to learn, after reading an article by a local farmer who was explaining that a local farmer is better than the big corporation farms, that many "organic" farmers use cow manure in their farming process. More "conscious" farmers allow the manure to compost before using it (thinking that any impurities will be eliminated in the composting process) and many make efforts to get manure from cattle that have not been fed antibiotics. I have had a vegetable garden or two and never found it necessary to use anything except a vegetable compost. This whole issue brings to mind the importance of people searching for veganic organic farmers at Farmer's Markets, joining with like minded friends and starting a garden, or growing one's own garden....blessings, Ashtarra

michaels6330 Oct 26, 2006 12:15 PM spinach

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you all know spinach has been tainted with ecoli. Do organic growers fertilize their vegetables with manure based sprays and products? The reason I ask is organic spinach was pulled off of the shelves as well as nonorganic. Lastly, I have also noticed that the multinationals have begun to produce "organic " cereals, beans etc. Organic symbols adorn the packages. Is this the real thing? I remember during the reign of king Clinton that some were protesting certain guidelines that were set forth concerning organic products. Is "organic" organic and if not, how can I tell the difference? These wolves in sheep's clothing are confusimg me.

I also heard on coast to coast radio that the ecoli may be seeping into our underground waterways from all the cattle manure some of this water is eventually used for irrigation. I can only assume that the water used on these mega farms is not purified. That 's why some were saying the ecoli cannot be washed off, it is in the spinach. When will we know the Truth?

 

I saw some info on the use of essential oil for ecoli. If interested write me off group and I will get it to you.

 

Zatiti

www.ahealingtree

home of Thai Yoga Massage

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That's true. Nobody needs to use manure or animal waste for compost. I learned

this

while at Ann Wigmore where they use all vegetable compost and coconut shells.

Veganic

Organic is a good term. But still, the fact is that e-coli is not the biggest

of our problems.

Sure, the facts must be known. We all deserve the best food, without genetic

modifications, without chemicals, and without animal waste. But the cycle of

nature is

powerful and we are a natural being in the flow of life. A healthy immune

system is the

most important thing to focus on. And being part of this natural process.

 

 

Mike

[Guest guest]

I have essential oils and would like to know how to

use them to clean vegetables.

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In a message dated 10/29/2006 12:07:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, arcadiapress writes:

Hello ...What you say about the ecoli being "in the spinach" from the underground water makes sense...I heard from a nutritionist who said that the spinach in question was next to a big cattle farm, so maybe all that cattle stuff did seep into the ground water...Blessings, Ashtarra

We should all call at least one major media organization or PBS station and ask for some reporting on this.

 

Zatiti

[Guest guest]

Hello ...What you say about the ecoli being "in the spinach" from the underground water makes sense...I heard from a nutritionist who said that the spinach in question was next to a big cattle farm, so maybe all that cattle stuff did seep into the ground water...Blessings, Ashtarra

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Hi...That's great! I will call CBS this week...Ashtarra

zatitie Oct 29, 2006 1:58 PM Re: spinach,underground water & ecoli

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 10/29/2006 12:07:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, arcadiapress (AT) earthlink (DOT) net writes:

Hello ...What you say about the ecoli being "in the spinach" from the underground water makes sense...I heard from a nutritionist who said that the spinach in question was next to a big cattle farm, so maybe all that cattle stuff did seep into the ground water...Blessings, Ashtarra

We should all call at least one major media organization or PBS station and ask for some reporting on this.

 

Zatiti

[Guest guest]

Someone on another raw group sent a link to an article in the New

York times about it. I will see if I can track it down.

 

Louise

 

, zatitie wrote:

>

> In a message dated 10/29/2006 12:07:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> arcadiapress writes:

> Hello ...What you say about the ecoli being " in the spinach "

from the

> underground water makes sense...I heard from a nutritionist who

said that the

> spinach in question was next to a big cattle farm, so maybe all

that cattle

> stuff did seep into the ground water...Blessings, Ashtarra

> We should all call at least one major media organization or PBS

station and

> ask for some reporting on this.

>

> Zatiti

>

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I can tell you one thing. It's not the spinach, and it's not our green earth.

E-coli comes

from animal waste. Bottom line, its about animals. There are too many animals

being

used for food and the waste is a huge problem. An organic farm must wait 3

years to

grow produce on what was once a cattle farm, but it is related to petrochemical

use rather

than the animal waste. I am not sure if there is a regulation regarding the

animal waste. I

have heard about waste being moved by ground water. John Robbins in Diet for a

New

America talked about that being a problem.

 

Dairy and meat in this country are a big lie! Americans should be really pissed

off about

this fact. Milk used to be totally different in this country. Pure and local,

not chemically

altered, and hormone treated, not enriched with calcium. What a joke! Meat was

not

always a corporate product either. We all know this and consumers still buy it!

Are they

walking around with blinders on or what? It is scientifically designed to taste

good.

 

Greens are the mainstay of my diet. I am not going to stop eating Spinach

because of a

few cases. I will however seek only the best quality I can all the time. I

want to know if

there is a problem for sure. I would not want to serve a possibly tainted

product to the

elderly or children, or someone recovering from disease...