Guest guest Posted November 13, 2001 Report Share Posted November 13, 2001 Dear One, Read on if you care, have time and spiritual fortitude. Times are, and may get, intense. We have a say in future outcomes, if we care. There are four topics below: Proposal to Pentagon to combat terrorism, The new " Patriot Act " - stripping rights, Arnold's Smallpox wake-up call. Attachment- is a petition to close Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant ---------- ----------------------------- THE PEN IS MIGHTY I just received this in the mail. I love it! Let's do it. The Pentagon has solicited ideas on combating terrorism. They're calling for one-page proposals at <AHREF= " http://www.bids.tswg.gov/ " http://www.bids.tswg.gov</A>. It's actually a CONTEST (can you believe it?), so why don't we spread the word on this far and wide, and send them our real ideas, poems, suggestions, meditations and satyagrahas? Let's swamp their contest with peaceful, creative, humble suggestions. If they get enough of them, who knows...? (I'd say it might drive them crazy, but they're already crazy. They think war solves problems.) So please pass this information on. Forward it to as many people as you can. Let's stun them with the beauty of peace. Love, Chris ---------- ---------- --------- http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1109-09.htm Saturday, November 10, 2001 Featured Views Share This Article With Your Friends Published on Friday, November 9, 2001 The New USA PATRIOT Act Are You a Patriot? by John Kaminski The USA Patriot Act, now passed and the law of the land, has eliminated the Constitutional guarantee of probable cause when investigating a crime, and now allows the police — at any time and for any reason — to enter and search your house, your files, your bank account — and not even tell you about it. Are you a patriot? Well, the fact of the matter is, you are whether you want to be or not. But are you an American or a mindless corporate stooge? Well, that's another question. The recent passage and signing of the Patriot Act has effectively nullified at least six amendments of the Bill of Rights addendum to the U.S. Constitution. As a result of this, America is longer America, but a police state, pure and simple. This Patriot Bill is, in fact, a massive violation of the Constitution it purports to uphold and improve. Among other things, it mandates that judges give police search warrants when they ask for them, for any reason. In fact, judges can't deny these warrants to police, because police don't need a stated reason to ask for them. The Bill of Rights is the cornerstone of American freedom. During the debates on the adoption of the Constitution in the 1790s, its opponents repeatedly charged that the Constitution as drafted would open the way to tyranny by the central government. Many states would not have signed the original Constitution without knowing that these amendments would be added, according to the federal website which displays the Constitution. These amendments became known as the Bill of Rights, which Americans have cherished, protected and fought for over 200 years. The Patriot Act rushed through Congress and signed by President George W. Bush is a major step toward a totalitarian state in which individual liberty is crushed by the whim of police and corporate demagogues masquerading as patriots. The Patriot Act: * Violates the First Amendment freedom of speech guarantee, right to peaceably assemble provision, and petition the government for redress of grievances provision; it violates the First Amendment to the Constitution three times. More on this below. * Violates the Fourth Amendment guarantee of probable cause in astonishingly major and repeated ways. The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution reads: " The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons of things to be seized. " The Patriot Act, now passed and the law of the land, has revoked the necessity for probable cause, and now allows the police, at any time and for any reason, to enter and search your house — and not even tell you about it. * Violates the Fifth Amendment by allowing for indefinite incarceration without trial for those deemed by the Attorney General to be threats to national security. The Fifth Amendment guarantees that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law, and the Patriot Act does away with due process. It even allows people to be kept in prison for life without even a trial. * Violates the Sixth Amendment guarantee of the right to a speedy and public trial. Now you may get no trial at all, ever. * Violates the Eighth Amendment (cruel and unusual punishment). * Violates the 13th Amendment (punishment without conviction). Most of the following information is taken from the ACLU's written objections to Congress before and after the passage of the Patriot Act. My comments are in brackets . The Patriot Act does the following (I'm putting the immigration stuff at the bottom because that least affects most of the people who will be reading this): * [it keeps judges out the process and lets cops do what they want (cops meaning FBI, CIA, etc.)] It minimizes judicial supervision of telephone and Internet surveillance by law enforcement authorities in anti-terrorism investigations and in routine criminal investigations unrelated to terrorism. [unrelated to terrorism — that means anything. How long do you think before that includes political dissent? Oops, too late, that's already happened.] * It expands the ability of the government to conduct secret searches — again in anti-terrorism investigations and in routine criminal investigations unrelated to terrorism. [unrelated to terrorism — that means anything they want it to mean. If we don't agree with Nazi Republican ideas, they can now arrest us.] * It gives the Attorney General and the Secretary of State the power to designate domestic groups as terrorist organizations and block any non-citizen who belongs to them from entering the country. Under this provision the payment of membership dues is a deportable offense. [That means, among other things, that Bush and Ashcroft can decide Greenpeace and Ralph Nader are terrorists, and under this law, it can put them in jail.] * It grants the FBI broad access to sensitive medical, financial, mental health, and educational records about individuals without having to show evidence of a crime and without a court order. [it means they can do what they want for no good reason, except to persecute and imprison people with humanistic, noncorporate rip-off views.] * It could lead to large-scale investigations of American citizens for " intelligence " purposes and use of intelligence authorities to by-pass probable cause requirements in criminal cases. [bye bye peace movement. You're all going to jail; me too.] * It puts the CIA and other intelligence agencies back in the business of spying on Americans by giving the Director of Central Intelligence the authority to identify priority targets for intelligence surveillance in the United States. [This is what America worked so hard for all those years to eliminate.] * It allows searches of highly personal financial records without notice and without judicial review based on a very low standard that does not require probable cause of a crime or even relevancy to an ongoing terrorism investigation. [They can do any of this stuff without any reason whatsoever. This is the kind of freedom these fascists always wanted — freedom to put everyone who disagrees with them in jail.] * It creates a broad new definition of " domestic terrorism " that could sweep in people who engage in acts of political protest and subject them to wiretapping and enhanced penalties. [This means they can jail anyone who disagrees with them, and keep them in jail for life without a trial.] On immigration specifically, the new law permits the detention of non-citizens facing deportation based merely on the Attorney General's certification that he has " reasonable grounds to believe " the non-citizen endangers national security. While immigration or criminal charges must be filed within seven days, these charges need not have anything to do with terrorism, but can be minor visa violations of the kind that normally would not result in detention at all. Non-citizens ordered removed on visa violations could be indefinitely detained if they are stateless, their country of origin refuses to accept them, or they are granted relief from deportation because they would be tortured if they were returned to their country of origin. It permits the Attorney General to indefinitely incarcerate or detain non-citizens based on mere suspicion, and to deny readmission to the United States of non-citizens (including lawful permanent residents) for engaging in speech protected by the First Amendment. [Or, what used to be the First Amendment. Now, it doesn't exist.] Let me just take a bit more of your valuable time to make a couple of points crystal clear, again using material from the ACLU's objections to passage of the Patriot Act. Wiretapping and Intelligence Surveillance The wiretapping and intelligence provisions in the USA Patriot Act sound two themes: they minimize the role of a judge in ensuring that law enforcement wiretapping is conducted legally and with proper justification, and they permit use of intelligence investigative authority to by-pass normal criminal procedures that protect privacy. Specifically: 1. The USA Patriot Act allows the government to use its intelligence gathering power to circumvent the standard that must be met for criminal wiretaps. Currently FISA surveillance, which does not contain many of the same checks and balances that govern wiretaps for criminal purposes, can be used only when foreign intelligence gathering is the primary purpose. The new law allows use of FISA surveillance authority even if the primary purpose were a criminal investigation. Intelligence surveillance merely needs to be only a " significant " purpose. This provision authorizes unconstitutional physical searches and wiretaps: though it is searching primarily for evidence of crime, law enforcement conducts a search without probable cause of crime. 2. The USA Patriot Act extends a very low threshold of proof for access to Internet communications that are far more revealing than numbers dialed on a phone. Under current law, a law enforcement agent can get a pen register or trap and trace order requiring the telephone company to reveal the numbers dialed to and from a particular phone. To get such an order, law enforcement must simply certify to a judge — who must grant the order — that the information to be obtained is " relevant to an ongoing criminal investigation. " This is a very low level of proof, far less than probable cause. This provision apparently applies to law enforcement efforts to determine what websites a person had visited, which is like giving law enforcement the power — based only on its own certification — to require the librarian to report on the books you had perused while visiting the public library. This provision extends a low standard of proof — far less than probable cause — to actual " content " information. 3. In allowing for " nationwide service " of pen register and trap and trace orders, the law further marginalizes the role of the judiciary. It authorizes what would be the equivalent of a blank warrant in the physical world: the court issues the order, and the law enforcement agent fills in the places to be searched. This is not consistent with the important Fourth Amendment privacy protection of requiring that warrants specify the place to be searched. Under this legislation, a judge is unable to meaningfully monitor the extent to which her order was being used to access information about Internet communications. 4. The Act also grants the FBI broad access in " intelligence " investigations to records about a person maintained by a business. The FBI need only certify to a court that it is conducting an intelligence investigation and that the records it seeks may be relevant. With this new power, the FBI can force a business to turn over a person's educational, medical, financial, mental health and travel records based on a very low standard of proof and without meaningful judicial oversight. The ACLU noted that the FBI already had broad authority to monitor telephone and Internet communications. Most of the changes apply not just to surveillance of terrorists, but instead to all surveillance in the United States. [All surveillance. The WTO geeks will love this one. Now we can be just like China.] Law enforcement authorities -- even when they are required to obtain court orders - have great leeway under current law to investigate suspects in terrorist attacks. Current law already provided, for example, that wiretaps can be obtained for the crimes involved in terrorist attacks, including destruction of aircraft and aircraft piracy. The FBI also already had authority to intercept these communications without showing probable cause of crime for " intelligence " purposes under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. In fact, FISA wiretaps now exceed wiretapping for all domestic criminal investigations. The standards for obtaining a FISA wiretap are lower than the standards for obtaining a criminal wiretap. Criminal Justice The law dramatically expands the use of secret searches. Normally, a person is notified when law enforcement conducts a search. In some cases regarding searches for electronic information, law enforcement authorities can get court permission to delay notification of a search. The USA Patriot Act extends the authority of the government to request " secret searches " to every criminal case. This vast expansion of power goes far beyond anything necessary to conduct terrorism investigations. The Act also allows for the broad sharing of sensitive information in criminal cases with intelligence agencies, including the CIA, the NSA, the INS and the Secret Service. It permits sharing of sensitive grand jury and wiretap information without judicial review or any safeguards regarding the future use or dissemination of such information. These information sharing authorizations and mandates effectively put the CIA back in the business of spying on Americans: Once the CIA makes clear the kind of information it seeks, law enforcement agencies can use tools like wiretaps and intelligence searches to provide data to the CIA. In fact, the law specifically gives the Director of Central Intelligence - who heads the CIA -- the power to identify domestic intelligence requirements. The law also creates a new crime of " domestic terrorism. " The new offense threatens to transform protesters into terrorists if they engage in conduct that " involves acts dangerous to human life. " Members of Operation Rescue, the Environmental Liberation Front and Greenpeace, for example, have all engaged in activities that could subject them to prosecution as terrorists. Then, under this law, the dominos begin to fall. Those who provide lodging or other assistance to these " domestic terrorists " could have their homes wiretapped and could be prosecuted. [if you have any doubt that these are the trappings of a police state, then you need to go back to elementary school and read about the Constitution, which we no longer have.] [Fox News Channel reports tonight that 90% of the American people are really happy with what Bush has done. I think somebody wrote this all in a book once, that when a free people gave away their freedom, they did it happily and with much fanfare.] John Kaminski live in Englewood Florida. E-mail: skylax ### Share This Article With Your Friends FAIR USE NOTICE This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. 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Home | Newswire | About Us | Donate | Sign-Up © Copyrighted 1997-2001 www.commondreams.org A 'Cookie-Free' Website ---------- ---------- --------- GREETINGS AND SALUTATIONS from Arnold's Way (As you read this, please keep in mind that we at Arnold's Way do no profess to be medical doctors. What we do it research, read, write, and consequently share our findings and opinions. If you do decide to use some of our teaching please also assume the risk involved since it is your constitutional right to self diagnose. Thank you, Arnold The harsh words of reality come rushing through the front door. The New York Times October 25, 20001 edition bluntly reports, " Drug Makers Plan Vaccine for Smallpox. " So begins this week's newsletter on smallpox. According to the article, the Bush administration plans to buy enough of the vaccine to inoculate every American. I personally was not only taken aback by that statement, but completely freaked. Since I began my studies in depth this week, my initial reaction to that statement was WHOA! After further consideration of the possibility of country-wide immunization, I was driven to research, write, read, talk, listen, or whatever it took to get as much knowledge regarding the whys of smallpox and whether being vaccinated would play any factor whatsoever in preventing this supposedly dreaded disease. In order to do research I needed books; I needed information; I needed facts. What I discovered, if truth could be labeled truth and lie could be labeled lie, was that smallpox was where it existed. It was there. When the vaccine was used as a preventative measure it was still there, and where smallpox existed in such miniscule numbers the vaccine wasn't even a factor. What became obvious when the vaccine wasn't a factor was that the public wasn't made aware of these facts, not by accident, but by choice by the powers that be. The question remains. What am I saying is that if President Bush orders 300 million doses for every man, woman, and child in the US. There has to be a reason for this fear of smallpox other than the word itself. As a Godsend, as a blessing, as a goal, we read about the one major country, which has essentially been an unvaccinated country according to Herbert M. Shelton's book Vaccine and Serum Evils. That country is Australia. " In the whole of Australian history less than one person a year has died of smallpox. " We read further into the article and find non-threatening statements saying, " Smallpox was essentially eradicated worldwide in 1977. " I assume every country also took Australia's non-vaccinating position. That statement based on the normal mainstream thought process is like right out of ARE YOU CRAZY?? attitude. So why vaccinate? But in truth, that's what began happening when smallpox became eradicated. In England and Scotland when the vaccinations were declining so was the death rate from smallpox. Should I repeat myself? When the vaccinations were declining so was the death rate from smallpox. However, is that statement good enough? Does anybody really care? Are these reports being shared or squashed? Beginning in 1872 when 85% of the population was vaccinated there was a reported 3,708 deaths. As the percentage of people receiving the smallpox vaccination over 70 years decreased to only 34.9% there were fewer than 2 deaths. These early statistical data were almost the same results that were found in the US, which can be found in Neil Z. Miller's book, Immunization Theory versus Reality. This article on the smallpox vaccination is becoming more complex, more incomplete, more confusing, and more mysterious. Are we as a people being led down a narrow path with no way out? Is the smallpox vaccine our salvation or a charlatan dying desire for righteous revenge? We stop from going fast forward or having virtual vaccination for everyone to ask the question what is smallpox? Where did it originate? How many people died? How many people shall live? Do we as a people idly stand by and let the doom of death fall upon our shoulders? Is the smallpox vaccination our albatross of despair forever hanging in the midst of out collective consciousness? I ask, I plead, I beg for guidance. In the book The Hidden Dangers in Polio Vaccine, Eleanor McBean writes, " All vaccines and serums are foreign protein and therefore a virulent poison. If any protein enters the body illegitimately through any channel other than the digestive tract, it becomes a stronger poison. " Do we stop at that statement? Look innocently toward the wind and begin thinking that this vaccination is just a casual participant in the art of living in the free world. We look at the lateness of the clock we laugh with unabashed abundance that we can live free, vaccinate free, while so close to midnight. Vierra Schiebner states in Immunization: Theory versus Reality, " Generations of people have been brain washed to believe that infectious diseases are bad and that we have to do something, anything to stop children from developing them. " Dr. H.S. Diehl states, " Smallpox is a disease which varies enormously in severity. In pre-vaccination days it was always severe, being fatal to between 20-30% of its victims (60 million people in Europe died of smallpox during the eighteenth century). It affects alike the rich and the poor, the clean and the dirty. " So we stare at both statements. We stare at the NY Times statement. We listen to the fear factor displayed on the T.V. and the radio through the news. Do we forget about our power, our super body intelligence, our immune system, which is so complex, so strong, and so vital that according to Albert E. Carter in The Cancer Answer, " Every time a chemist comes up with another substance our body has already found a way to destroy it. " ? Do we forget this and begin the more in-depth research why there is the fear of smallpox and why this fear can be changed? So the continual reading rises kindly from the pages to provide answers, to wash away the fear, to give salvation to many, and to support those who not only refuse vaccination for themselves but for others as well. Eleanor McBean states, " If the death rate of smallpox was so enormous, it was largely due to the medical treatment of that time. " In medical terms, Dr. Russell T. Trall, a natural hygienist during the 19th century simply stated, " Smallpox is not a dangerous disease. " He cared for a great number of smallpox victims using natural hygienic treatment, fresh air, exercise, clean water, and raw food, and never lost a patient. Not one. Let's compare that to the standard medical procedure at that time, which consisted of being heavily drugged, bleeding techniques, as well as being smothered in blankets on dirty linen with no water or fresh air. The only liquids allowed were milk, brandy, or wine. Can we why smallpox was considered a dangerous disease? We look at the differences in treatment back then and standards of treatment today. Have they really advanced? Two sets of three words come into play: cut, burn, poison or surgery, radiation, chemotherapy. They are the repertoire of most medical procedures. These are the major issues facing modern medicine. What treatment would be most effective, and how do you justify their use? A natural hygienist who would still use the natural hygienic treatment of Russell Trall. Is there an action that would cause a reaction? In the case of smallpox, we have to study its history. It appeared only with the collapse of the Greek and Roman civilizations. Many years ago, their high standards of health were vanquished from light days into dark nights. It was a period of time when standards of hygienic care could only be called down and dirty. It was a period of time where smallpox became prevalent because of hygienic conditions becoming worse. According to Montgomery English History, " In the streets of London and other cities, pools of stagnant water accumulated everywhere, heaps of garbage abounded, there was no sewage, and dead dogs and cats rubbish, rotten vegetable and fruit refuse, human and animal excreta, and slops from the kitchen were all thrown into the street. " That, my friends, is the good news. The townsfolk lived under horrid conditions. Whole families lived in single rooms often in one bed. " They rarely ever washed, had no baths, no underwear, and wore the same clothes day and night. " This was poverty to the utmost degree. The funny thing that happened when the standards of sanitary and hygienic care were raised was that smallpox and other infectious diseases also began disappearing. What does all this mean? Eleanor McBean states, " There is only one truth or real immunity against disease and that arises from health. " If this holds true and the medical establishment also states that vaccinations are absolutely necessary it behooves us to go back in time and check why. I wish I could stop, scream, and yell. Let the truth be with us not by vaccination, not by destroying. If the public only had even an inkling how the smallpox vaccine is derived, originated, and comprised of there would be no hesitation, no doubt, no possible alternative than to stop this insanity and/or its maker. In Neil Z. Miller's book Immunization: The People Speak, we begin with the live virus, which is isolated from infected matter onto the stabilizing agent of formaldehyde. Should I repeat myself for this too has to be injected into the blood stream? Yuck. To add further insult to my intelligence and your intelligence, the vaccine also needs, according to Neil Z. Miller, " aluminum, a neurotoxin, and thimerosol, a mercury derivative. " Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on who's making it, who's receiving it, who's deriving profit from it, the scenario gets more bizarre. According to Neil Z. Miller, " This concoction needs to be incubated in animal tissue using animal organs. " Talk about gross. Talk about insaneness. Talk about reality. Talk about medical advances in the past 100 years. " The polio vaccine is incubated in Monkey kidneys. Monkeys are raised specifically for this purpose. " This is the vaccination, this is the concoction that every child in American has to receive. Twenty-two vaccinations before the age of two. This is the reason why sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) affects anywhere from 2-10,000 children a year. In Japan, SIDS was completely eliminated after they stopped vaccinating all their children until after the age of two. This is the reason, according to a study by the University of Nevada school of Medicine, why out of 103 children who died of SIDS, 70% had received the DPT vaccine within three weeks. These are poisons that are being put in our children's bloodstreams. So we review the article in the NY Times, one of the most in depth reporting newspapers. We scan the words, the sentences, the underlying meaning of what's said and what's not said. We read the words of the article. " Large scale production will almost certainly begin with a vaccine made from a live but less dangerous form of smallpox. " I say to myself, which part is not dangerous? Is it the virus from the infected area, the formaldehyde, the aluminum, or the thimerosol or maybe even the incubation period in a monkey kidney? Or are these methods outdated? We remember our reading about smallpox in Australia who in spite of being an almost non-vaccinated county has had less that 1 smallpox case a year in its entire history. We also remember Dr. Russell Trall who never every lost a patient who had smallpox just by being treated hygienically. Now let's look at the fact that that prior to 1796, according to Neil Z. Miller, the year Edward Jenner (not a doctor) began experimenting with a smallpox vaccine, epidemics were small and limited. " It was only after he came out with his vaccine that we began to have huge epidemics all over the world. " Furthermore, according to Miller, to make these figures more unbelievable, " An overwhelming number of people who contracted smallpox were actually vaccinated against the disease. " So we look at these statistics, we look at the facts, we reread the articles in the NY Times. " Federal officials say there is no proof yet that killed virus vaccines are effective in protecting people from smallpox. " So we have all this information on both the uncertainty of the effectiveness of the smallpox vaccine and the potential dangers of both killed virus and live virus. The NY Times states that the vaccine, " poses a high risk of side effects even for healthy people and people with immune system difficulties or serious skin ailments. " I'm in my seventh day of research on smallpox. I have reviewed all the information, all the implications, all the uncertainty, all the potential threats, and after reading all this, which is public knowledge, the only words I can think of are, " I don't get it. " Knowing all the hazardous possibilities, why is the Bush administration according to the NY Times planning to buy enough smallpox vaccines to inoculate every American? There are things I wonder about. As a single voice, I share my concern, I show my concern, and I write my concern. The solution as always is to change one's dietary habits. We need to rid the diet of the unnatural sugars, the sodas, and the processed food. The decision in the end whether to vaccinate or not is up to the individual. We are not doctors nor do we pretend to be. I urge you to investigate further. Investigate for yourself, for your health. I thank you for your time. Arnold References: Immunizations: The people speak by Neil Z. Miller Immunization Theory vs. Reality by Neil Z. Miller Drug Makers Plan Vaccine for Smallpox, NY Times article Hidden Dangers in Polio Vaccine by Eleanor McBean Vaccine and Serum Evils by Herbert M. Shelton The Cancer Answer by Albert E. Carter Vaccinations: Deception and Tragedy by Michael Dye Close Indian Point NOW! View Current Signatures - Sign the Petition Governor George Pataki, and all elected officials in New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut. We, the undersigned, demand that the Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant be shut down immediately and permanently deactivated. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission has admitted that the concrete containment buildings housing the nuclear reactors at Indian Point were not designed to withstand attacks by aircraft such as the type that terrorists used to destroy the World Trade Center. Other independent auditors have shown proof that Indian Point has failed to prevent intrusion by terrorists in mock terror exercises. The Nuclear Control Institute and other experts on nuclear safety have warned that an attack on Indian Point in Buchanan could breach either of the two reactors or the fuel storage pool, causing lethal contamination of everything within 50 miles. Like the disaster at Chernobyl, the plant's radioactive fuel rods would reach temperatures exceeding 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit and trigger chemical explosions that would spew radioactive particles from the site continuously, contaminating reservoirs throughout the county, and exposing 20 million people to lethal radiation. 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