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"I bet you personally have no idea which third he wrote." Let me ask you!, does it matter which part did he copy? one third or one tenth of it? and he or them gave no credit to the source, that is all that matters!, or do you want to tell me, that *the goal should sanctificate the means?* on this premise no-one should expect any honesty from any other group or individual." your actions" what actions?, that I'm appalled and disappointed that individuals would exploit a given cause to advance their monetary gain? "incredibly unjust and not founded in a verifable reality" I am not rendering justice just judging in the light of verifiable reality. "You who seek health will not find it with hatred in your hearts." on the same token Jim Baker shouldn't have been convicted to jail time.

regards, Helena"Dear Steve!>> You made me sad. I wonder why an honest opinion should be trampled in > the> mud? If I recall it right in school when someone copied someone else's> homework was called cheating and when you get out of school the same > thing> is called a "successful business man"?...hmm... to me is sad,>> regards, Helena">>>> What she said!

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Good evening,

Please pursue this conversation off-list.

Thank you.

Nick Hein

 

 

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"I bet you personally have no idea which third he wrote." Let me ask you!, does it matter which part did he copy? one third or one tenth of it? and he or them gave no credit to the source, that is all that matters!, or do you want to tell me, that *the goal should sanctificate the means?* on this premise no-one should expect any honesty from any other group or individual." your actions" what actions?, that I'm appalled and disappointed that individuals would exploit a given cause to advance their monetary gain? "incredibly unjust and not founded in a verifable reality" I am not rendering justice just judging in the light of verifiable reality. "You who seek health will not find it with hatred in your hearts." on the same token Jim Baker shouldn't have been convicted to jail time.

regards, Helena"Dear Steve!>> You made me sad. I wonder why an honest opinion should be trampled in > the> mud? If I recall it right in school when someone copied someone else's> homework was called cheating and when you get out of school the same > thing> is called a "successful business man"?...hmm... to me is sad,>> regards, Helena">>>> What she said!

 

 

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on 7/17/03 8:39 AM, kelpguy at kelpguy wrote:

 

 

" The banana is the number one fruit with the world's leading athletes.

 

But energy isn't the only way a banana can help us keep fit. It can also

help overcome or prevent a substantial number of illnesses and

conditions

making it a must to add to your daily diet. "

 

 

I have fibromyalgia and since I've started eating at least 3 bananas a day, it has greatly reduced my pain. And fatigue. Bananas are my number one choice since I've started with raw foods.

 

 

Tanya Gunby

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Tanya,

I've mentioned this on the list before, but you might have missed it. A

friend of mine cured herself of fibro and has written a book about it

called " Dying To Get Well " . She's wrapping up her second book now called

" Raw and Juicy ... (with a subtitle I forget just now) " It's a compilation

of stories from various people who have overcome illnesses with raw food.

She just sent out a solicitation on one of her boards a week or so ago for

contributions from new raw fooders for the chaper entitled " baby steps " .

:-) You might be interested in contributing if you've seen improvements

already. Her bulletin boards are at: http://pub41.ezboard.com/bdepoprovera.

Nora

 

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>I understood that when the body ingests cooked food, it treats this

>like an infection and unleashes gobs of white blood cells, basically

>combating the irritant like an invasion of bacteria, virus, or

>whatever. This process continued ad finitum could lock the body

>into a response pattern of addiction which takes specific measures

>to break.

 

Interesting thought. I was thinking how cooked foods, as well as

drugs, etc. definitely stimulate, or " excite " the body, even though

it may be a burden on the body or " bad " for it. That stimulation,

whether it be from the increase in white blood count (called

" digestive leukocytosis " ) or another side effect, may contribute to

the addictive quality of the foods.

 

I suspect, as mentioned previously, that cooked food may also be

addictive because of the effect on the other senses. Cooked foods

release nutrients and aromas into the air, which stimulate our

appetite through our sense of smell. Some of the most powerful

memories are from the sense of smell. I can smell an aroma and a

memory may come to mind from as long ago as my childhood! That may

especially contribute to emotional addictions: grandma's cookies and

pies, a favorite restaurant's special entree, etc.

 

We may also have memories of the sounds of foods cooking, especially

frying. How about the memory of mom boiling pasta. Cooked foods also

produce a warmth on the skin as we lean over our plate, open the

oven, or lean over the stove. On a cold day, stirring some stew may

warm the fingers.

 

We have lots of emotions (and senses) attached to foods. When we have

spent, by far, a majority of our lives around those situations, we

may find it difficult to let go. But... as we replace those memories

and learn to attach the effects of those cooked foods, etc. instead,

then instead of having such pleasant memories, we may (also) remember

the colds and flues, aches and pains, and various diseases that we

had at that time. That process of replacement can help some of the

emotional addiction lose its power. As we learn to pay attention to

the cause and effect relationship of our food and how we feel (how

our health is) it becomes easier to make better decisions (IMO).

 

I use to have an emotional (and probably physical) addiction to

chocolate. I recognized that I did not feel as good hours after

eating the chocolate. I felt worse than before eating it. I was not

100%, which is what I prefer. Each time I ate it I became more and

more convinced it did not serve me (even though tasty.) Finally, that

was enough. My desire for better health was stronger than my desire

for chocolate.

 

Now my curiosity has taken me to trying " raw chocolate " , but that's

another story!

 

As Eric hit upon, cooked foods may stimulate the opiates in our

brains. These opiates can create a pleasant feeling, masking the

other problems going on in the body because of the cooked foods. I

suspect, as Dr. Neal Barnard discusses in his new book, if people

took opiate blockers, they would probably lose interest in a lot of

foods they are eating on a S.A.Diet.

 

Regarding addictions within raw foods, I have had issues with salt

(sea salt). I have gotten off of it many times, then back on it

again. I have not been strict with myself to absolutely remove it

permanently, but I have recognized that i may not feel 100%. This

difference is far more subtle compared to chocolate (or alcohol,

opium?, etc.) I have also noticed feeling better on a simpler diet

(mono), but find myself wanting more flavor after a while and having

more interest to mix (raw) foods. I recognize an addiction here

(though subtle), but don't quite understand it. Perhaps the mixing of

foods (certainly the addition of salt), has that stimulating effect

on the body which addicts us.

 

Any other thoughts on raw food addictions?

 

Jeff

 

 

 

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Dear Martha,<BR>

<BR>

Have you received Bowen Therapy for your MS? & nbsp; Check it out at

www.bowtech.com<BR>

<BR>

Sincerely,<BR>

<BR>

Kevin<BR>

Re: Bowen Technique for MS

 

Thanks, Kevin. I checked it out and it sounds worthwhile. However, there are no

practitioners in my area.

 

I'm starting qigong classes next week.

 

Martha

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Thank you for the information!!

paula

 

KEVIN THURBER <aikneada wrote:

Betty Lamont of Developmental Movement, 525.8038, says that raw food can reduce

or eliminate brain seizures.

 

 

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I'm sorry. I didn't get that you wanted to know what

sometimesimcold means :) .

 

When I created this email, I tried a few different

names. You know how is, EVERYTHING is already

taken. I was actually physically a little chili and

just typed it in being silly. It worked and I kind of

liked the name so I kept it. :)

 

Certainly, I would love for you to be in the

directory. I am just getting information right now.

 

Thank you for the apology, no harm done. :)

Man I am smiley face queen in this message. :) :)

 

Toni

--- " Kevin A. Thurber " <aikneada wrote:

 

> Toni,

>

> So, I am still confused. What exactly does the

> 'sometimesimcold' mean? Since I can not find a

> reply I have clearly asked for one. I would be

> delighted to be in your directory if the offer is

> still available. I do apologize if you have felt

> scolded or belittled as that was clearly not my

> intent.

>

> Kevin

>

>

> Kevin Thurber, LMP

> Everybody's Better with Bowen

> aikneada

> 206.328.5300

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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