Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 Anybody going to the Earthsave event tomorrow night? Just curious. I visited the Food Co-op in Pt. Townsend last weekend and found it to be a great, raw-friendly little store. They have raw cakes and pies in the deli, 5 different varieties of bulk dates, and a nut grinder that is specifically devoted to making raw cashew butter. I got to thinking it would be nice if " our " co-ops had nut grinders that they could leave empty to grind raw nuts in. Or do some have this already? For those of us who like to indulge in raw nut butter from time to time, it would be nice to have a convenient, cheap way of coming by it. It's frustrating to see the huge selection of cooked nut butters at the co-ops with only a few raw alternatives, all of which are actually cooked (Maranatha butters are heated to 160 degrees during processing). In addition to this, the PCC in Issaquah has two grinders devoted to making " fresh " cooked nut butters. The tub of cashew butter I made in Pt. Townsend last weekend cost me $2.50 and was only slightly warmed. It might be worth talking to the co-op managers. Btw, has anyone ever tried making nut butter in their Champion? Nora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 I've used the Champion to make nutbutter before, but it is kinda messy/hard to cleanup, and one has to add oil of some nature to keep the process going (unless one is using pine-nuts). Just recently got an Omega 8001, and am pretty impressed so far for the price difference from my GreenPower back in Atlanta, but haven't tried nut butters with it yet. Even the intructions for the Omega on making nut butters recommend adding oil - may try it with some coconut oil at some point... Regards, David dmayne - " Nora Lenz " <nlenz <RawSeattle > Friday, October 04, 2002 1:56 PM Re: [RawSeattle]nut butters > Anybody going to the Earthsave event tomorrow night? Just curious. > > I visited the Food Co-op in Pt. Townsend last weekend and found it to be a great, > raw-friendly little store. They have raw cakes and pies in the deli, 5 different > varieties of bulk dates, and a nut grinder that is specifically devoted to making > raw cashew butter. I got to thinking it would be nice if " our " co-ops had nut > grinders that they could leave empty to grind raw nuts in. Or do some have this > already? For those of us who like to indulge in raw nut butter from time to time, > it would be nice to have a convenient, cheap way of coming by it. It's frustrating > to see the huge selection of cooked nut butters at the co-ops with only a few raw > alternatives, all of which are actually cooked (Maranatha butters are heated to 160 > degrees during processing). In addition to this, the PCC in Issaquah has two > grinders devoted to making " fresh " cooked nut butters. The tub of cashew butter I > made in Pt. Townsend last weekend cost me $2.50 and was only slightly warmed. It > might be worth talking to the co-op managers. Btw, has anyone ever tried making > nut butter in their Champion? > > Nora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 > Anybody going to the Earthsave event tomorrow night? Just curious. > I am going with some friends. Helen roups is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2002 Report Share Posted October 5, 2002 Do they sell really raw Cashew nuts, or are they the " raw " nuts that have been steamed/boiled? -Tim --- Nora Lenz <nlenz wrote: > Anybody going to the Earthsave event tomorrow night? Just curious. > > I visited the Food Co-op in Pt. Townsend last weekend and found it to be a > great, > raw-friendly little store. They have raw cakes and pies in the deli, 5 > different > varieties of bulk dates, and a nut grinder that is specifically devoted to > making > raw cashew butter. I got to thinking it would be nice if " our " co-ops had > nut > grinders that they could leave empty to grind raw nuts in. Or do some have > this > already? For those of us who like to indulge in raw nut butter from time to > time, > it would be nice to have a convenient, cheap way of coming by it. It's > frustrating > to see the huge selection of cooked nut butters at the co-ops with only a few > raw > alternatives, all of which are actually cooked (Maranatha butters are heated > to 160 > degrees during processing). In addition to this, the PCC in Issaquah has two > grinders devoted to making " fresh " cooked nut butters. The tub of cashew > butter I > made in Pt. Townsend last weekend cost me $2.50 and was only slightly warmed. > It > might be worth talking to the co-op managers. Btw, has anyone ever tried > making > nut butter in their Champion? > > Nora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2002 Report Share Posted October 5, 2002 nora,tim,et al ... doný ever forget the fact, that during grinding, our most beloved organic raw nuts " suffer " enormously on the molecular,atomic,colloidal,etc level becouse of high friction that takes place on the mechanical level ... we are talking about a temperature between 200-350 degrees ... i wish i could provide the literature about this ... they are somewhere in my big pile of printouts, copies,notes ... but it doesn't really take a nuclear phisicist to figure this out ... just taste the nutbutter right after beeing processed .... it's warm ... preeeeetty warm ... isn't it? ... happy oktoberfests ... a tt i l a --- " Timothy D. Lottridge " <mitnors2 wrote: > Do they sell really raw Cashew nuts, or are they the > " raw " nuts that have been > steamed/boiled? > > -Tim > > --- Nora Lenz <nlenz wrote: > > Anybody going to the Earthsave event tomorrow > night? Just curious. > > > > I visited the Food Co-op in Pt. Townsend last > weekend and found it to be a > > great, > > raw-friendly little store. They have raw cakes > and pies in the deli, 5 > > different > > varieties of bulk dates, and a nut grinder that is > specifically devoted to > > making > > raw cashew butter. I got to thinking it would be > nice if " our " co-ops had > > nut > > grinders that they could leave empty to grind raw > nuts in. Or do some have > > this > > already? For those of us who like to indulge in > raw nut butter from time to > > time, > > it would be nice to have a convenient, cheap way > of coming by it. It's > > frustrating > > to see the huge selection of cooked nut butters at > the co-ops with only a few > > raw > > alternatives, all of which are actually cooked > (Maranatha butters are heated > > to 160 > > degrees during processing). In addition to this, > the PCC in Issaquah has two > > grinders devoted to making " fresh " cooked nut > butters. The tub of cashew > > butter I > > made in Pt. Townsend last weekend cost me $2.50 > and was only slightly warmed. > > It > > might be worth talking to the co-op managers. > Btw, has anyone ever tried > > making > > nut butter in their Champion? > > > > Nora > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2002 Report Share Posted October 5, 2002 I've heard all along that cashews undergo a process that involves heating during their " shelling " . It seems to me that the cashews that are sold by NFL as absolutely raw bear a striking similarity to the raw cashews sold at PCC and other places. The NFL cashews are a little moister (which might be accounted for by the vacuum sealed bag they come in) and I've been told that they sprout. Other than that, I'm thinking that if one was raw and the other was cooked, the differences would be more visible, like the differences you see between roasted and raw nuts. I'm inclined to think that either all cashews are cooked, or they're all raw (at least those sold as " raw " ). Up till now I've been assuming the former and staying away from them. I do know that the grinder in Pt. Townsend only warmed the cashews, though... if I had to guess at the temp right after grinding, I'd say somewhere in the 90-95 range. Nora attila madaras wrote: > nora,tim,et al ... > > doný ever forget the fact, that during grinding, > our most beloved organic raw nuts " suffer " > enormously on the molecular,atomic,colloidal,etc level > becouse of high friction that takes place on the > mechanical level ... we are talking about a > temperature > between 200-350 degrees ... i wish i could provide the > literature about this ... they are somewhere in my big > pile of printouts, copies,notes ... but it doesn't > really take a nuclear phisicist to figure this out ... > just taste the nutbutter right after beeing processed > ... it's warm ... preeeeetty warm ... isn't it? ... > happy oktoberfests ... a tt i l a > > --- " Timothy D. Lottridge " <mitnors2 wrote: > > Do they sell really raw Cashew nuts, or are they the > > " raw " nuts that have been > > steamed/boiled? > > > > -Tim > > > > --- Nora Lenz <nlenz wrote: > > > Anybody going to the Earthsave event tomorrow > > night? Just curious. > > > > > > I visited the Food Co-op in Pt. Townsend last > > weekend and found it to be a > > > great, > > > raw-friendly little store. They have raw cakes > > and pies in the deli, 5 > > > different > > > varieties of bulk dates, and a nut grinder that is > > specifically devoted to > > > making > > > raw cashew butter. I got to thinking it would be > > nice if " our " co-ops had > > > nut > > > grinders that they could leave empty to grind raw > > nuts in. Or do some have > > > this > > > already? For those of us who like to indulge in > > raw nut butter from time to > > > time, > > > it would be nice to have a convenient, cheap way > > of coming by it. It's > > > frustrating > > > to see the huge selection of cooked nut butters at > > the co-ops with only a few > > > raw > > > alternatives, all of which are actually cooked > > (Maranatha butters are heated > > > to 160 > > > degrees during processing). In addition to this, > > the PCC in Issaquah has two > > > grinders devoted to making " fresh " cooked nut > > butters. The tub of cashew > > > butter I > > > made in Pt. Townsend last weekend cost me $2.50 > > and was only slightly warmed. > > > It > > > might be worth talking to the co-op managers. > > Btw, has anyone ever tried > > > making > > > nut butter in their Champion? > > > > > > Nora > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2002 Report Share Posted October 5, 2002 Found this article that might be of interest. Sounds like it might have been written to sway people into buying NFL cashews, but I think I'll go back to avoiding them ... Nora http://www.rawfoods.com/articles/rawcashew.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2002 Report Share Posted October 5, 2002 Thanks Nora, joyce - Nora Lenz Saturday, October 05, 2002 9:19 AM RawSeattle Re: [RawSeattle]nut butters Found this article that might be of interest. Sounds like it might have beenwritten to sway people into buying NFL cashews, but I think I'll go back toavoiding them ...Norahttp://www.rawfoods.com/articles/rawcashew.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2002 Report Share Posted October 6, 2002 In my experience, NFL cashews taste very differnt from the ones from the PCC or other co-ops. To me, the NFL cashews taste more bland. This would make sense because roasting nuts tends to bring out more flavor. If grinding causes temps of 200-350 degrees on an atomic level no matter what then what would the benefit be of grinding it in my mouth rather than in a machine? As long as the machine is designed to not create too much friction in a certain period of time, the nut butter won't get any hotter than the temperature inside my mouth. The machine will grind the nuts more finely, so it will be easier for me to digest the end result. Also, I will get pleasure consuming the nut in a butter form that I otherwise wouldn't be able to obtain. Mmmmm... warm cashew butter on my lips... - T i m --- Nora Lenz <nlenz wrote: > I've heard all along that cashews undergo a process that involves heating > during their " shelling " . It seems to me that the cashews that are sold by > NFL as absolutely raw bear a striking similarity to the raw cashews sold at > PCC and other places. The NFL cashews are a little moister (which might be > accounted for by the vacuum sealed bag they come in) and I've been told that > they sprout. Other than that, I'm thinking that if one was raw and the other > was cooked, the differences would be more visible, like the differences you > see between roasted and raw nuts. I'm inclined to think that either all > cashews are cooked, or they're all raw (at least those sold as " raw " ). Up > till now I've been assuming the former and staying away from them. I do know > that the grinder in Pt. Townsend only warmed the cashews, though... if I had > to guess at the temp right after grinding, I'd say somewhere in the 90-95 > range. > Nora > > attila madaras wrote: > > > nora,tim,et al ... > > > > doný ever forget the fact, that during grinding, > > our most beloved organic raw nuts " suffer " > > enormously on the molecular,atomic,colloidal,etc level > > becouse of high friction that takes place on the > > mechanical level ... we are talking about a > > temperature > > between 200-350 degrees ... i wish i could provide the > > literature about this ... they are somewhere in my big > > pile of printouts, copies,notes ... but it doesn't > > really take a nuclear phisicist to figure this out ... > > just taste the nutbutter right after beeing processed > > ... it's warm ... preeeeetty warm ... isn't it? ... > > happy oktoberfests ... a tt i l a > > > > --- " Timothy D. Lottridge " <mitnors2 wrote: > > > Do they sell really raw Cashew nuts, or are they the > > > " raw " nuts that have been > > > steamed/boiled? > > > > > > -Tim > > > > > > --- Nora Lenz <nlenz wrote: > > > > Anybody going to the Earthsave event tomorrow > > > night? Just curious. > > > > > > > > I visited the Food Co-op in Pt. Townsend last > > > weekend and found it to be a > > > > great, > > > > raw-friendly little store. They have raw cakes > > > and pies in the deli, 5 > > > > different > > > > varieties of bulk dates, and a nut grinder that is > > > specifically devoted to > > > > making > > > > raw cashew butter. I got to thinking it would be > > > nice if " our " co-ops had > > > > nut > > > > grinders that they could leave empty to grind raw > > > nuts in. Or do some have > > > > this > > > > already? For those of us who like to indulge in > > > raw nut butter from time to > > > > time, > > > > it would be nice to have a convenient, cheap way > > > of coming by it. It's > > > > frustrating > > > > to see the huge selection of cooked nut butters at > > > the co-ops with only a few > > > > raw > > > > alternatives, all of which are actually cooked > > > (Maranatha butters are heated > > > > to 160 > > > > degrees during processing). In addition to this, > > > the PCC in Issaquah has two > > > > grinders devoted to making " fresh " cooked nut > > > butters. The tub of cashew > > > > butter I > > > > made in Pt. Townsend last weekend cost me $2.50 > > > and was only slightly warmed. > > > > It > > > > might be worth talking to the co-op managers. > > > Btw, has anyone ever tried > > > > making > > > > nut butter in their Champion? > > > > > > > > Nora > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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