Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Do any of you know of a good doctor (preferrably an ND) that has knowledge of a raw food diet? I have been raw for about 8 months and just got some test results back. I don't know if my present ND knows how to help me with some of my levels without suggesting cooked foods. Thanks! Shawna Insights and Astrology http://www.cahty.com <http://www.cahty.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Shawna, I've been seeing Dr. Bruce Milliman, ND for many years. He is very knowledgeable. I get annual blood draws. He has a great knowledge of all the components of the blood, as well as nutrition and it's effects on the body. He also realizes that the traditional way we look at test results are not necessarily the proper way to read them. I am his only raw food patient, but I get the impression he would like to have more. He seems fascinated by my results over my recent raw years. Information from the test seems to contradict traditional interpretation of the test, which sheds new light on diet and nutrition. Anyway, at my last visit, he seemed to be blown away by the results combined with some facts of my dietary changes. He seemed disappointed he didn't have more raw foodists to work with. I recommend him. He's pretty close to whole foods (Roosevelt and 64th) 206-522-5646 Jeff >Do any of you know of a good doctor (preferrably an ND) that has >knowledge of a raw food diet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Jeff, Thanks for the recommendation. I will check him out. My doc is wonderful but she is reading my blood tests in a traditional way. By the way, do any of you seem to come up with low cholesterol? That was one of the things in my test that was low. Just curious if it is one of those typically low results for raw foodists. Thanks! Shawna Insights and Astrology http://www.cahty.com <http://www.cahty.com/> Jeff Rogers [jeff] Tuesday, December 23, 2003 9:32 AM RawSeattle Re: [RawSeattle] Raw knowledgable doctors Shawna, I've been seeing Dr. Bruce Milliman, ND for many years. He is very knowledgeable. I get annual blood draws. He has a great knowledge of all the components of the blood, as well as nutrition and it's effects on the body. He also realizes that the traditional way we look at test results are not necessarily the proper way to read them. I am his only raw food patient, but I get the impression he would like to have more. He seems fascinated by my results over my recent raw years. Information from the test seems to contradict traditional interpretation of the test, which sheds new light on diet and nutrition. Anyway, at my last visit, he seemed to be blown away by the results combined with some facts of my dietary changes. He seemed disappointed he didn't have more raw foodists to work with. I recommend him. He's pretty close to whole foods (Roosevelt and 64th) 206-522-5646 Jeff >Do any of you know of a good doctor (preferrably an ND) that has >knowledge of a raw food diet? _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 RawSeattle , " Shawna Lendzion " <spiraldream@q...> wrote: > By the way, do any of you seem to come up with low cholesterol? That was one of the things in my test that was low. Just curious if it is one of those typically low results for raw foodists. > > Thanks! > Shawna > If you have been vegan for a long time, you are not eating the animal foods that contain cholesterol, so it is possible that the low cholesterol that you have is normal for a vegan lifestyle. Many times, what is considered normal is based on what is average for the average person's diet. Our bodies were designed to function optimally without animal products, and a healthy body produces the cholesterol it needs. (Some people tend to produce too much cholesterol.) If your level is abnormally low, it's probably because your body is not producing cholesterol. There is one study I found (http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/fff8a.htm) linking low cholesterol to anxiety and depression, but unless your levels are abnormally low, having low cholesterol is a good and healthy thing. Ron Koenig Bellevue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 It might not be related (because I'm not a raw foodist yet) but my ND told me that my " good " cholesterol was low, and that the only non-pill way to raise it was to get more exercise. Shawna Lendzion <spiraldream wrote: Jeff, Thanks for the recommendation. I will check him out. My doc is wonderful but she is reading my blood tests in a traditional way. By the way, do any of you seem to come up with low cholesterol? That was one of the things in my test that was low. Just curious if it is one of those typically low results for raw foodists. Thanks! Shawna Insights and Astrology http://www.cahty.com <http://www.cahty.com/> Jeff Rogers [jeff] Tuesday, December 23, 2003 9:32 AM RawSeattle Re: [RawSeattle] Raw knowledgable doctors Shawna, I've been seeing Dr. Bruce Milliman, ND for many years. He is very knowledgeable. I get annual blood draws. He has a great knowledge of all the components of the blood, as well as nutrition and it's effects on the body. He also realizes that the traditional way we look at test results are not necessarily the proper way to read them. I am his only raw food patient, but I get the impression he would like to have more. He seems fascinated by my results over my recent raw years. Information from the test seems to contradict traditional interpretation of the test, which sheds new light on diet and nutrition. Anyway, at my last visit, he seemed to be blown away by the results combined with some facts of my dietary changes. He seemed disappointed he didn't have more raw foodists to work with. I recommend him. He's pretty close to whole foods (Roosevelt and 64th) 206-522-5646 Jeff >Do any of you know of a good doctor (preferrably an ND) that has >knowledge of a raw food diet? _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2003 Report Share Posted December 27, 2003 I was once told that my cholesterol was too low by a naturopathic doctor. Any idea how to increase cholesterol without eating animal products? Thanks, Audrey --- Ron Koenig <ron.koenig wrote: > RawSeattle , " Shawna Lendzion " > > <spiraldream@q...> wrote: > > By the way, do any of you seem to come up with low > cholesterol? > That was one of the things in my test that was low. > Just curious if > it is one of those typically low results for raw > foodists. > > > > Thanks! > > Shawna > > > If you have been vegan for a long time, you are not > eating the animal > foods that contain cholesterol, so it is possible > that the low > cholesterol that you have is normal for a vegan > lifestyle. Many > times, what is considered normal is based on what is > average for the > average person's diet. Our bodies were designed to > function > optimally without animal products, and a healthy > body produces the > cholesterol it needs. (Some people tend to produce > too much > cholesterol.) If your level is abnormally low, it's > probably because > your body is not producing cholesterol. There is > one study I found > (http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/fff8a.htm) linking low > cholesterol to > anxiety and depression, but unless your levels are > abnormally low, > having low cholesterol is a good and healthy thing. > > > Ron Koenig > Bellevue > > New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2003 Report Share Posted December 28, 2003 Audrey - I have to echo Ron's comments. Your body is " programmed " to produce a certain amount of cholesterol. You don't have to eat it. You can increase your fat intake, from nuts/seeds, avocadoes, durian, and olives, that will give your body more of the " building blocks " that it needs to make the cholesterol. Beyond that, there may not be much you can do. We don't have " normal " values for the raw vegan population, there just isn't the data that is needed to establish " normal " values that may be different from the omnivore population. So your ND is comparing you with the omnivore population. If you're not experiencing lab results that might indicate a low level of cholesterol (low sex hormones, low vitamin D production), then you likely are just fine. It seems that MD's and ND's are so accustomed to seeing people whose cholesterol levels (and/or weights) are excessively high, that when they see someone who is either normal, or maybe where we're supposed to be, that they get alarmed and try to " fix " what may not need to be " fixed. " I have had clients (I'm a dietitian, and see low-income pregnant women and children to age 5 yrs) who are " skinny as a rail " , but Mom is sitting there, and she's also very slender, or maybe was as a child, and Dad is a " beanpole " as well, so it's not " rocket science " to say that genetics play a huge role in how our bodies are. Yet they tell me that their doctor (and/or dietitian) is telling them to take their child to McDonald's to " fatten him up " . I just put my head in my hands. I feel like I'm fighting an uphill battle. Sue I was once told that my cholesterol was too low by a naturopathic doctor. Any idea how to increase cholesterol without eating animal products? Thanks, Audrey > If you have been vegan for a long time, you are not > eating the animal > foods that contain cholesterol, so it is possible > that the low > cholesterol that you have is normal for a vegan > lifestyle. Many > times, what is considered normal is based on what is > average for the > average person's diet. Our bodies were designed to > function > optimally without animal products, and a healthy > body produces the > cholesterol it needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 There are different kinds of cholesterol, I have been told. So you have to know which kind is coming up short. Maybe ask your doctor to clarify, or find someone more knowledgeable. I've been measured at very low also. I would not worry about it. Janaki - " Audrey Walker " <prettifemme88 <RawSeattle > Saturday, December 27, 2003 9:44 AM Re: [RawSeattle] Re: Raw knowledgable doctors > I was once told that my cholesterol was too low by a > naturopathic doctor. Any idea how to increase > cholesterol without eating animal products? > > Thanks, > > Audrey > > > > --- Ron Koenig <ron.koenig wrote: > > RawSeattle , " Shawna Lendzion " > > > > <spiraldream@q...> wrote: > > > By the way, do any of you seem to come up with low > > cholesterol? > > That was one of the things in my test that was low. > > Just curious if > > it is one of those typically low results for raw > > foodists. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Shawna > > > > > If you have been vegan for a long time, you are not > > eating the animal > > foods that contain cholesterol, so it is possible > > that the low > > cholesterol that you have is normal for a vegan > > lifestyle. Many > > times, what is considered normal is based on what is > > average for the > > average person's diet. Our bodies were designed to > > function > > optimally without animal products, and a healthy > > body produces the > > cholesterol it needs. (Some people tend to produce > > too much > > cholesterol.) If your level is abnormally low, it's > > probably because > > your body is not producing cholesterol. There is > > one study I found > > (http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/fff8a.htm) linking low > > cholesterol to > > anxiety and depression, but unless your levels are > > abnormally low, > > having low cholesterol is a good and healthy thing. > > > > > > Ron Koenig > > Bellevue > > > > > > > > > New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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