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Hi Nora,

 

I am just sure that at one of Loren's talks he told us that we do not have

the enzyme to digest wheatgrass or any grasses and therefore are wasting our

time by taking the grasses. Do you remember this and if this is so can you tell

me more. I keep reading and hearing people saying to drink lots of wheatgrass

but every time I tried it I almost threw up. It was soapy and bitter tasting. I

also remember Loren saying if we taste something that is bitter to us then we

are not meant to eat it. I for one think that makes a lot of sense and am now

very pleased that I no longer feel I have to juice or consume any bitter greens

since there are so many sweet ones to choose from. Thanks for any info about

this. Breezi

 

 

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Hi Breezi,

There are lots of people on the list who can answer this question, but I'll

start the discussion with my understanding. Grass isn't something our bodies

are adapted to eat in its natural form because of its dense cellulose content.

We can digest it if we juice it, but it is my considered opinion (and that of

many others) that anything that has to be processed in order to be digested

isn't natural human food. Juicing in general isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Our bodies need nutrients the way they are found in nature, not in unnaturally

concentrated, fractionated forms. Additionally, since we've identified so few

of the nutrients found in foods, who's to say we aren't missing really important

stuff when

we remove the fiber from a food and drink only the juice.

Wheatgrass juice is touted as a " curative " or " healing " food, which is a

flawed concept in itself since only the body is capable of healing. It is

generally advocated by people who seek to correct health problems with treatment

methodologies. Wheatgrass has lots of nutrients in it, but it also has

substances that are not good for us. That's why it tastes bitter. For a food

to be truly suitable for our consumption, ALL of its component parts must be

good for us and it must appeal to all our senses. The relative nutrient content

of a food is not appropriate criteria by which to judge its fitness for

consumption. Further, wheatgrass is not pleasant to eat in its natural state.

Even if we were hungry and it

was the only food available, we'd eat very little. If we knew nothing about the

pseudo-science of nutrition and we had both grass and fruit available, we'd walk

on the grass and go straight to the fruit. Yeah, grass is good! Good to walk

on, or sit on while we're eating real food. :)

All of this not to say that someone who is mineral deficient might not

benefit from consuming wheatgrass juice. There is always a trade off, however,

because the substances in it that cannot be used by our bodies have to be

eliminated. Anyone wanting to consume it should do so in very small amounts, so

as to not overwhelm the body with these substances. My opinion is that if you

want to add minerals to your diet, why not eat foods that are easy to digest and

don't require a trade-off of any kind. Lettuce and celery are good examples.

Personally, I share your opinion of the deeper greens. I used to force

myself to eat them when I was first transitioning but then when I started

hearing that they are not appropriate food, I gave them up with great relief.

By that point I was starting to feel nauseous after drinking green juice, a sign

that my body was getting more sensitive to inappropriate foods.

Hope this helps!

Nora

 

 

bobandbreezi wrote:

 

> Hi Nora,

>

> I am just sure that at one of Loren's talks he told us that we do not have

the enzyme to digest wheatgrass or any grasses and therefore are wasting our

time by taking the grasses. Do you remember this and if this is so can you tell

me more. I keep reading and hearing people saying to drink lots of wheatgrass

but every time I tried it I almost threw up. It was soapy and bitter tasting. I

also remember Loren saying if we taste something that is bitter to us then we

are not meant to eat it. I for one think that makes a lot of sense and am now

very pleased that I no longer feel I have to juice or consume any bitter greens

since there are so many sweet ones to choose from. Thanks for any info about

this. Breezi

>

>

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Hi -

 

I have to agree, for the most part, with Nora's comments.

 

We do lack the digestive enzymes break down the cellulose bonds in the

fibrous portion of wheat (or any) grass (thus we cannot eat our lawns...)

but when we juice it we free the nutrients from those fibers, thus making

them more available to us. (We do produce the enzyme to break down the

reverse cellulose bonds in celery and lettuce. Cattle and other ruminants

do produce the enzymes to break down the grass bonds. Chemically, an enzyme

only recognizes one specific configuration of a chemical bond. If that

chemical bond is reversed, even though it is otherwise identical, it won't

touch it.)

 

There are a few occasions in which juicing is appropriate, but I don't

believe that wheat grass is any kind of " magic potion " as it often is

portrayed. I buy it and I put it into my juices during the wintertime, but

I also put it down for my cats to eat, I believe they may get more benefit

from it.

 

Juicing is appropriate when:

 

1. A person is suffering from a tummy upset for which a water fast may be

more appropriate, but whose busy lifestyle won't allow it, for example, the

busy teen who just can't miss school, the young mom whose kids still require

daily care, anybody who just can't slow down at this time and take a

complete physiological rest.

 

2. During time of major illness, hopefully these won't happen to a raw

fooder, but nothing is certain. Juicing concentrates the nutrients from the

fruits/veg's and has been effective in treating major disease when combined

even with an omnivorous diet. Seattle Cancer Treatment and Wellness Center

uses juicing as the focus of their treatment, and have successfully reversed

cancers, including liver cancer.

 

3. When somebody is unable to swallow and/or has to be tube fed for whatever

reason. My uncle had a stroke last August and was on tube feedings until

early this month. After a visit to him, we discussed (myself and my

husband): what if one of us (raw fooders) was in the hospital, and required

tube feedings for some reason? (More likely due to injury for us rather

than stroke.) We read the label on the formula that he was being fed - it

would never work for the raw fooder. We would have to have a purified fresh

juice, maybe mixed with some nut milk. I think it would be prudent to work

on developing a raw food formulation that would cover a person's nutritional

needs on extended tube feedings. We also should each have an emergency care

information sheet with us, kept with our " emergency contact " phone numbers,

specifying what NOT to feed us. Otherwise we could easily wake up to beef

broth and Jell-O.

 

4. I use it in the mornings during the winter as a light, energy-rich

pre-workout snack. During the summer, I use melons. I used citrus last

winter, and that was good, but I overdid the citrus and I lost some of the

enamel on my teeth. So this year I do apple & carrot juice with some wheat

grass.

 

5. Juicing was a good " intro " to the benefits of the raw diet for me. I had

one juicer, an Omega centrifugal juicer, then I upgraded to the Greenlife,

which came with a recipe book. This was the beginning of my transition to

raw. If it can serve that purpose for others, and/or simply provide a

nutritional boost to a cooked omnivorous or vegetarian/vegan diet, then it

can have its place.

 

Hope that answers some questions.

 

Sue

 

 

 

bobandbreezi [bobandbreezi]

Monday, December 29, 2003 1:55 PM

RawSeattle

Re: [RawSeattle] Question for Nora Lenz

 

Hi Nora,

 

I am just sure that at one of Loren's talks he told us that we do not

have the enzyme to digest wheatgrass or any grasses and therefore are

wasting our time by taking the grasses. Do you remember this and if this is

so can you tell me more. I keep reading and hearing people saying to drink

lots of wheatgrass but every time I tried it I almost threw up. It was soapy

and bitter tasting. I also remember Loren saying if we taste something that

is bitter to us then we are not meant to eat it. I for one think that makes

a lot of sense and am now very pleased that I no longer feel I have to juice

or consume any bitter greens since there are so many sweet ones to choose

from. Thanks for any info about this. Breezi

 

 

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