Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 Hi Nora, I am just sure that at one of Loren's talks he told us that we do not have the enzyme to digest wheatgrass or any grasses and therefore are wasting our time by taking the grasses. Do you remember this and if this is so can you tell me more. I keep reading and hearing people saying to drink lots of wheatgrass but every time I tried it I almost threw up. It was soapy and bitter tasting. I also remember Loren saying if we taste something that is bitter to us then we are not meant to eat it. I for one think that makes a lot of sense and am now very pleased that I no longer feel I have to juice or consume any bitter greens since there are so many sweet ones to choose from. Thanks for any info about this. Breezi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Hi Breezi, There are lots of people on the list who can answer this question, but I'll start the discussion with my understanding. Grass isn't something our bodies are adapted to eat in its natural form because of its dense cellulose content. We can digest it if we juice it, but it is my considered opinion (and that of many others) that anything that has to be processed in order to be digested isn't natural human food. Juicing in general isn't all it's cracked up to be. Our bodies need nutrients the way they are found in nature, not in unnaturally concentrated, fractionated forms. Additionally, since we've identified so few of the nutrients found in foods, who's to say we aren't missing really important stuff when we remove the fiber from a food and drink only the juice. Wheatgrass juice is touted as a " curative " or " healing " food, which is a flawed concept in itself since only the body is capable of healing. It is generally advocated by people who seek to correct health problems with treatment methodologies. Wheatgrass has lots of nutrients in it, but it also has substances that are not good for us. That's why it tastes bitter. For a food to be truly suitable for our consumption, ALL of its component parts must be good for us and it must appeal to all our senses. The relative nutrient content of a food is not appropriate criteria by which to judge its fitness for consumption. Further, wheatgrass is not pleasant to eat in its natural state. Even if we were hungry and it was the only food available, we'd eat very little. If we knew nothing about the pseudo-science of nutrition and we had both grass and fruit available, we'd walk on the grass and go straight to the fruit. Yeah, grass is good! Good to walk on, or sit on while we're eating real food. All of this not to say that someone who is mineral deficient might not benefit from consuming wheatgrass juice. There is always a trade off, however, because the substances in it that cannot be used by our bodies have to be eliminated. Anyone wanting to consume it should do so in very small amounts, so as to not overwhelm the body with these substances. My opinion is that if you want to add minerals to your diet, why not eat foods that are easy to digest and don't require a trade-off of any kind. Lettuce and celery are good examples. Personally, I share your opinion of the deeper greens. I used to force myself to eat them when I was first transitioning but then when I started hearing that they are not appropriate food, I gave them up with great relief. By that point I was starting to feel nauseous after drinking green juice, a sign that my body was getting more sensitive to inappropriate foods. Hope this helps! Nora bobandbreezi wrote: > Hi Nora, > > I am just sure that at one of Loren's talks he told us that we do not have the enzyme to digest wheatgrass or any grasses and therefore are wasting our time by taking the grasses. Do you remember this and if this is so can you tell me more. I keep reading and hearing people saying to drink lots of wheatgrass but every time I tried it I almost threw up. It was soapy and bitter tasting. I also remember Loren saying if we taste something that is bitter to us then we are not meant to eat it. I for one think that makes a lot of sense and am now very pleased that I no longer feel I have to juice or consume any bitter greens since there are so many sweet ones to choose from. Thanks for any info about this. Breezi > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Hi - I have to agree, for the most part, with Nora's comments. We do lack the digestive enzymes break down the cellulose bonds in the fibrous portion of wheat (or any) grass (thus we cannot eat our lawns...) but when we juice it we free the nutrients from those fibers, thus making them more available to us. (We do produce the enzyme to break down the reverse cellulose bonds in celery and lettuce. Cattle and other ruminants do produce the enzymes to break down the grass bonds. Chemically, an enzyme only recognizes one specific configuration of a chemical bond. If that chemical bond is reversed, even though it is otherwise identical, it won't touch it.) There are a few occasions in which juicing is appropriate, but I don't believe that wheat grass is any kind of " magic potion " as it often is portrayed. I buy it and I put it into my juices during the wintertime, but I also put it down for my cats to eat, I believe they may get more benefit from it. Juicing is appropriate when: 1. A person is suffering from a tummy upset for which a water fast may be more appropriate, but whose busy lifestyle won't allow it, for example, the busy teen who just can't miss school, the young mom whose kids still require daily care, anybody who just can't slow down at this time and take a complete physiological rest. 2. During time of major illness, hopefully these won't happen to a raw fooder, but nothing is certain. Juicing concentrates the nutrients from the fruits/veg's and has been effective in treating major disease when combined even with an omnivorous diet. Seattle Cancer Treatment and Wellness Center uses juicing as the focus of their treatment, and have successfully reversed cancers, including liver cancer. 3. When somebody is unable to swallow and/or has to be tube fed for whatever reason. My uncle had a stroke last August and was on tube feedings until early this month. After a visit to him, we discussed (myself and my husband): what if one of us (raw fooders) was in the hospital, and required tube feedings for some reason? (More likely due to injury for us rather than stroke.) We read the label on the formula that he was being fed - it would never work for the raw fooder. We would have to have a purified fresh juice, maybe mixed with some nut milk. I think it would be prudent to work on developing a raw food formulation that would cover a person's nutritional needs on extended tube feedings. We also should each have an emergency care information sheet with us, kept with our " emergency contact " phone numbers, specifying what NOT to feed us. Otherwise we could easily wake up to beef broth and Jell-O. 4. I use it in the mornings during the winter as a light, energy-rich pre-workout snack. During the summer, I use melons. I used citrus last winter, and that was good, but I overdid the citrus and I lost some of the enamel on my teeth. So this year I do apple & carrot juice with some wheat grass. 5. Juicing was a good " intro " to the benefits of the raw diet for me. I had one juicer, an Omega centrifugal juicer, then I upgraded to the Greenlife, which came with a recipe book. This was the beginning of my transition to raw. If it can serve that purpose for others, and/or simply provide a nutritional boost to a cooked omnivorous or vegetarian/vegan diet, then it can have its place. Hope that answers some questions. Sue bobandbreezi [bobandbreezi] Monday, December 29, 2003 1:55 PM RawSeattle Re: [RawSeattle] Question for Nora Lenz Hi Nora, I am just sure that at one of Loren's talks he told us that we do not have the enzyme to digest wheatgrass or any grasses and therefore are wasting our time by taking the grasses. Do you remember this and if this is so can you tell me more. I keep reading and hearing people saying to drink lots of wheatgrass but every time I tried it I almost threw up. It was soapy and bitter tasting. I also remember Loren saying if we taste something that is bitter to us then we are not meant to eat it. I for one think that makes a lot of sense and am now very pleased that I no longer feel I have to juice or consume any bitter greens since there are so many sweet ones to choose from. Thanks for any info about this. Breezi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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