Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 hey raw punks i really like this post off of the inhs natural hygiene listserve...... loveN INORGANIC-ORGANIC The question about organic – inorganic is full of confusion. We often forget that bacteria eat the rocks (inorganic), and make the minerals available for us (organic). In the same was plants do. It is NOT correct to assume that only plants can convert inorganic minerals to organic. Hard water makes the teeth stronger. Sally Fallon wrote about a study in Smith County Texas – the inhabitants who drank soft water had bad teeth, those who drank hard water (calcium-rich) had good teeth. Calcium is an inorganic mineral – so how can this be possible – can we absorb inorganic minerals? Not directly, we need bacteria, who digest inorganic minerals and salts, and transform these to an absorbable (organic) form. BACTERIA Bacteria are extremely important for our well-being. Anti-biotics kill the bacteria in our bodies, and then we can have a hard time getting a new supply, due to our sterile food nowadays. Also, acids in fruits are harmful to our bacteria, especially acid fruit (orange, lemon) is destructive. As well as strong onion, and garlic – avoid those (but sweet onion is ok in moderate amounts). Sugar is also bad, it kills the good bacteria, while allowing the wrong bacteria to proliferate. You need to have the right bacteria in your body, because then inorganic minerals and salts can be absorbed. Dr. Bass is trying to increase his bacteria by using Probiotics, and by eating whey and small amounts of over-ripe cheeses (for lacto bacillus). He has made sour-kraut using whey (good, recommended). Sally Fallon and Aajonus recommend eating stinky " ripe " meat – to improve bacteria-count and types. Dr. Mercola about how healthy bodies have trillions of bacteria: http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/27/probiotics.htm Thomas Parr lived to be 153 years old, in 1600's England. His diet was one of stinky old cheese and whey, old stale hard bread. He got famous and was invited to the king, where he died from eating the king's food. Probably an example of how lots of bacteria can make us live long. http://www.westminster-abbey.org/library/burial/parr.htm Another example: Jordin S. Rubin lost weight and got wheel-chair bound with deteriorating health, until he started eating some dirt. Why did that help? Because of the bacteria!! http://www.sagesherbalandsuch.com/rubinbook.php MINERALS AND BACTERIA So - minerals in the water are very important for you, provided you have the correct bacteria. The Hunzas dranks glacier water, with lots of different minerals. This could have been a very important factor in their long lives and health. Dr. Bass adds a very tiny bit of Celtic sea salt to his distilled water, and has ordered " crystal salt " , mined from ancient (pre-human) deposits for the same reason, – to get a good selection of minerals into his body. The clay (from volcanoes) is for the same reason. He also drinks whey & Probiotics to increase his bacteria, without which he cannot absorb the minerals in the water. The key is to try to go back to where the primitives were (when it comes to minerals & bacteria in the body.) These measures are not for everybody. Dr. Bass is testing different options, and also needs some emergency measures since he during his life has ignored these factors (bacteria and minerals) – e.g. by eating lots of fruit and drinking distilled water (which is corrosive, e.g. corrodes metal quickly). He first learned about using distilled water at fasting institutions, but now regards this as faulty knowledge. NEW NATURAL HYGIENE The best of (old) Natural Hygiene is missing this knowledge. Overeating of carbs (resulting in wrong bacteria, and insulin problems) can be a lethal weapon, and the absence of animal food is bad. And we need a better understanding in Natural Hygiene of bacteria, of water, and of mineral content. _______________ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 COMMENTS ARE IN CAPS BELOW. Ron Koenig RawSeattle , " nachman laufman " <n_laufman@h...> wrote: > hey raw punks > i really like this post off of the inhs natural hygiene listserve...... > loveN > > INORGANIC-ORGANIC > The question about organic – inorganic is full of confusion. > We often forget that bacteria eat the rocks (inorganic), and make > the minerals available for us (organic). In the same way plants do. > It is NOT correct to assume that only plants can convert inorganic > minerals to organic. THAT'S AN INTERESTING THEORY, THAT BACTERIA IN OUR BODY BREAK DOWN OUR INGESTED INORGANIC MINERALS INTO ORGANIC MINERALS. I'M VERY SKEPTICAL THAT THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENS. IN FACT, THE BODY STORES MINERALS IN THE BONES, HAIR, SKIN, TEETH, AND JOINTS. BACTERIA IS LOCATED IN THE INTESTINES, AND THAT'S WHERE THE INORGANIC MINERALS WOULD HAVE TO BE BROKEN DOWN INTO ORGANIC MINERALS AND ABSORBED INTO THE BODY. > > Hard water makes the teeth stronger. Sally Fallon wrote about a > study in Smith County Texas – the inhabitants who drank soft water > had bad teeth, those who drank hard water (calcium-rich) had good > teeth. Calcium is an inorganic mineral – so how can this be > possible – can we absorb inorganic minerals? PEOPLE IN GENERAL CONSUME MUCH MORE SOFT DRINKS THAN WATER. THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER FACTORS TO CONSIDER WHEN DISCUSSING THE HEALTH OF TEETH, SO UNLESS THESE ARE FACTORED IN, THE DIFFERENCE OF DRINKING HARD OR SOFT WATER IS REALLY INSIGNIFICANT. > Not directly, we need bacteria, who digest inorganic minerals and > salts, and transform these to an absorbable (organic) form. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE GOOD BACTERIA IN OUR GUT FEED ON YEAST, NOT INORGANIC MINERALS. > > BACTERIA > Bacteria are extremely important for our well-being. > Anti-biotics kill the bacteria in our bodies, and then we can have > a hard time getting a new supply, due to our sterile food > nowadays. Also, acids in fruits are harmful to our bacteria, especially acid > fruit (orange, lemon) is destructive. As well as strong > onion, and garlic – avoid those (but sweet onion is ok in moderate > amounts). > Sugar is also bad, it kills the good bacteria, while allowing the > wrong bacteria to proliferate. You need to have the right bacteria in your > body, > because then inorganic minerals and salts can be absorbed. > > Dr. Bass is trying to increase his bacteria by using > Probiotics, and by eating whey and small amounts of over-ripe cheeses > (for lacto bacillus). He has made sour-kraut using whey (good, recommended). > Sally Fallon and Aajonus recommend eating stinky " ripe " meat – to improve > bacteria-count and types. > Dr. Mercola about how healthy bodies have trillions of bacteria: > http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/27/probiotics.htm > > Thomas Parr lived to be 153 years old, in 1600's England. His diet > was one of stinky old cheese and whey, old stale hard > bread. He got famous and was invited to the king, where he died from > eating the king's food. Probably an example of how lots of > bacteria can make us live long. > http://www.westminster-abbey.org/library/burial/parr.htm FROM THE WEB SITE MENTIONED ABOVE: A diet of green cheese, onions, coarse bread, buttermilk or mild ale (cider on special occasions) and no smoking kept Thomas healthy. His recipe for long life was reputed to be " Keep your head cool by temperance and your feet warm by exercise. Rise early, go soon to bed, and if you want to grow fat [prosperous] keep your eyes open and your mouth shut " . TEMPERANCE, EXERCISE, SIMPLE LIFESTYLE. THIS DID MUCH MORE FOR HIS LONGEVITY THAN THE CHEESE HE ATE! (AND IT SAID ABOVE IN THIS ARTICLE THAT ONIONS SHOULD BE AVOIDED!) BY THE WAY, THE ARTICLE ALSO SAYS THAT WHEN HE WENT TO VISIT THE KING, THAT HE HAD BEEN BLIND FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS. > > Another example: Jordin S. Rubin lost weight and got > wheel-chair bound with deteriorating health, until he started > eating some dirt. > Why did that help? Because of the bacteria!! > http://www.sagesherbalandsuch.com/rubinbook.php IT'S A VERY INTERESTING STORY. HE HAD TAKEN A LOT OF ANTIBIOTICS, SO NEEDED TO GET BACTERIA BACK IN HIS GUT. HE ALSO CHANGED HIS DIET TO ADD LIVING FOODS. THE COMBINATION IS WHAT CURED HIM. > > MINERALS AND BACTERIA > So - minerals in the water are very important for you, > provided you have the correct bacteria. > The Hunzas dranks glacier water, with lots of > different minerals. This could have been a very important factor in their > long lives and health. > > Dr. Bass adds a very tiny bit of Celtic sea salt to > his distilled water, and has ordered " crystal salt " , mined from > ancient (pre-human) deposits for the same reason, – to get a good > selection of minerals into his body. The clay (from volcanoes) is > for the same reason. He also drinks whey & Probiotics to increase > his bacteria, without which he cannot absorb the minerals in the > water. > The key is to try to go back to where the primitives > were (when it comes to minerals & bacteria in the body.) > These measures are not for everybody. Dr. Bass is > testing different options, and also needs some emergency measures since > he during his life has ignored these factors (bacteria and minerals) > – e.g. by eating lots of fruit and drinking distilled water > (which is corrosive, e.g. corrodes metal quickly). He first > learned about using distilled water at fasting institutions, but now > regards this as faulty knowledge. > > NEW NATURAL HYGIENE > The best of (old) Natural Hygiene is missing this knowledge. > Overeating of carbs (resulting in wrong bacteria, and insulin > problems) can be a lethal weapon, and the absence of > animal food is bad. And we need a better understanding in Natural > Hygiene of bacteria, of water, and of mineral content. THE ABSENCE OF ANIMAL FOOD IS GOOD. THERE IS PLENTY OF EVIDENCE TO BACK THAT UP. THERE IS TOO MUCH DISEASE IN THE ANIMAL KINGDOM TODAY TO PROMOTE EATING ANIMAL FOODS. Ron Koenig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Maybe this is why I've seen positive results in my practice with the supplementation. Janaki - " nachman laufman " <n_laufman <RawSeattle > Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:22 AM [RawSeattle] colloidal vs. mineral !!! > hey raw punks > i really like this post off of the inhs natural hygiene listserve...... > loveN > > INORGANIC-ORGANIC > The question about organic - inorganic is full of confusion. > We often forget that bacteria eat the rocks (inorganic), and make > the minerals available for us (organic). In the same was plants do. > It is NOT correct to assume that only plants can convert inorganic > minerals to organic. > > Hard water makes the teeth stronger. Sally Fallon wrote about a > study in Smith County Texas - the inhabitants who drank soft water > had bad teeth, those who drank hard water (calcium-rich) had good > teeth. Calcium is an inorganic mineral - so how can this be > possible - can we absorb inorganic minerals? > Not directly, we need bacteria, who digest inorganic minerals and > salts, and transform these to an absorbable (organic) form. > > BACTERIA > Bacteria are extremely important for our well-being. > Anti-biotics kill the bacteria in our bodies, and then we can have > a hard time getting a new supply, due to our sterile food > nowadays. Also, acids in fruits are harmful to our bacteria, especially acid > fruit (orange, lemon) is destructive. As well as strong > onion, and garlic - avoid those (but sweet onion is ok in moderate > amounts). > Sugar is also bad, it kills the good bacteria, while allowing the > wrong bacteria to proliferate. You need to have the right bacteria in your > body, > because then inorganic minerals and salts can be absorbed. > > Dr. Bass is trying to increase his bacteria by using > Probiotics, and by eating whey and small amounts of over-ripe cheeses > (for lacto bacillus). He has made sour-kraut using whey (good, recommended). > Sally Fallon and Aajonus recommend eating stinky " ripe " meat - to improve > bacteria-count and types. > Dr. Mercola about how healthy bodies have trillions of bacteria: > http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/27/probiotics.htm > > Thomas Parr lived to be 153 years old, in 1600's England. His diet > was one of stinky old cheese and whey, old stale hard > bread. He got famous and was invited to the king, where he died from > eating the king's food. Probably an example of how lots of > bacteria can make us live long. > http://www.westminster-abbey.org/library/burial/parr.htm > > Another example: Jordin S. Rubin lost weight and got > wheel-chair bound with deteriorating health, until he started > eating some dirt. > Why did that help? Because of the bacteria!! > http://www.sagesherbalandsuch.com/rubinbook.php > > MINERALS AND BACTERIA > So - minerals in the water are very important for you, > provided you have the correct bacteria. > The Hunzas dranks glacier water, with lots of > different minerals. This could have been a very important factor in their > long lives and health. > > Dr. Bass adds a very tiny bit of Celtic sea salt to > his distilled water, and has ordered " crystal salt " , mined from > ancient (pre-human) deposits for the same reason, - to get a good > selection of minerals into his body. The clay (from volcanoes) is > for the same reason. He also drinks whey & Probiotics to increase > his bacteria, without which he cannot absorb the minerals in the > water. > The key is to try to go back to where the primitives > were (when it comes to minerals & bacteria in the body.) > These measures are not for everybody. Dr. Bass is > testing different options, and also needs some emergency measures since > he during his life has ignored these factors (bacteria and minerals) > - e.g. by eating lots of fruit and drinking distilled water > (which is corrosive, e.g. corrodes metal quickly). He first > learned about using distilled water at fasting institutions, but now > regards this as faulty knowledge. > > NEW NATURAL HYGIENE > The best of (old) Natural Hygiene is missing this knowledge. > Overeating of carbs (resulting in wrong bacteria, and insulin > problems) can be a lethal weapon, and the absence of > animal food is bad. And we need a better understanding in Natural > Hygiene of bacteria, of water, and of mineral content. > > _______________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=htt p://hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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