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Mark - are you SURE you want to start Phase I in the middle of the best time of

year for fruit?! Joe and I did Phase I during February and March of this year.

How long are you planning?

 

It was tough but I was really feeling well by the end of 50 days, that was our

goal. Joe was a basket case as far as craving fruit. Which is very interesting

because he is the one more stringent about his diet than I and I was just

humming right along at the end.

 

There are a couple other folks on the Seattle list that have done Phase I. I'd

be interested in hearing from them.

 

Shari

 

 

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Shari,

 

Jeez, you're right, good point! But to tell you the truth, I'm burning out on

fruit. Too yin or something. I need to make some changes. I don't know, what

did Cousens say, three months for phase 1? I'm going to get into the recipe

thing, which I've never done before. Seems like a big year for changes,

personally (wife moving out), business, etc. Might as well change my diet too,

I don't feel like " composting " any more!. It's wonderful that you have a

partner to do this with.

 

Somebody asked here recently about getting some dark field blood testing done.

Does anybody know a place locally that will do it? I don't even know my blood

type.

 

Mark

 

 

 

Mark - are you SURE you want to start Phase I in the middle of the best time

of year for fruit?! Joe and I did Phase I during February and March of this

year. How long are you planning?

 

It was tough but I was really feeling well by the end of 50 days, that was our

goal. Joe was a basket case as far as craving fruit. Which is very interesting

because he is the one more stringent about his diet than I and I was just

humming right along at the end.

 

There are a couple other folks on the Seattle list that have done Phase I.

I'd be interested in hearing from them.

 

Shari

 

 

 

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Hi Mark,

I'm with Shari -- don't give up on fruit! Especially right now, with all

the great stuff available, holy cow ... figs, cherries, melons, nectarines,

apricots, even fresh durian for the fiscally foolhardy! ;) Maybe we can explore

what is motivating the desire to change your diet. What does 'burning out'

mean? Do you have symptoms? What are you not getting that you want,

health-wise? I think it would be great to talk about it, 'cause I'm sure there

are others struggling with the

same issues. What do ya think?

Nora

 

 

Mark Hovila wrote:

 

> Shari,

>

> Jeez, you're right, good point! But to tell you the truth, I'm burning out on

fruit. Too yin or something. I need to make some changes. I don't know, what

did Cousens say, three months for phase 1? I'm going to get into the recipe

thing, which I've never done before. Seems like a big year for changes,

personally (wife moving out), business, etc. Might as well change my diet too,

I don't feel like " composting " any more!. It's wonderful that you have a

partner to do this with.

>

> Somebody asked here recently about getting some dark field blood testing done.

Does anybody know a place locally that will do it? I don't even know my blood

type.

>

> Mark

>

> Mark - are you SURE you want to start Phase I in the middle of the best time

of year for fruit?! Joe and I did Phase I during February and March of this

year. How long are you planning?

>

> It was tough but I was really feeling well by the end of 50 days, that was

our goal. Joe was a basket case as far as craving fruit. Which is very

interesting because he is the one more stringent about his diet than I and I was

just humming right along at the end.

>

> There are a couple other folks on the Seattle list that have done Phase I.

I'd be interested in hearing from them.

>

> Shari

>

>

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Mark has reasons for wanting to change his diet. Can't they be respected

without having to know exactly what they are, and trying to talk him out

of them?

 

Martha

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Martha,

I suppose that he'd know that best. List members have reasons for making

suggestions too, usually that they want to do everything they can to help him

succeed by having the most complete information available. I didn't perceive

that anyone was talking him in or out of anything - he can consider and choose

what he thinks is best for him if he has the most complete and accurate

information possible.

 

But thanks for asking. I hope this was a good answer.

 

Nickolas Hein

Morgantown WV

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Martha Burton

RawSeattle

Sunday, June 27, 2004 8:26 PM

Re: [RawSeattle] Phase I

 

 

Mark has reasons for wanting to change his diet. Can't they be respected

without having to know exactly what they are, and trying to talk him out

of them?

 

Martha

 

 

 

 

 

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Nora,

 

I'm not giving up on fruit completely, just sweet fruit for a while. Cousens

motivated me to try this with the research he shared in Rainbow Green Live Food

Cuisine.

 

Mark

-

Nora Lenz

RawSeattle

Sunday, June 27, 2004 4:08 PM

Re: [RawSeattle] Phase I

 

 

Hi Mark,

I'm with Shari -- don't give up on fruit! Especially right now, with all

the great stuff available, holy cow ... figs, cherries, melons, nectarines,

apricots, even fresh durian for the fiscally foolhardy! ;) Maybe we can explore

what is motivating the desire to change your diet. What does 'burning out'

mean? Do you have symptoms? What are you not getting that you want,

health-wise? I think it would be great to talk about it, 'cause I'm sure there

are others struggling with the

same issues. What do ya think?

Nora

 

 

 

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> Might as well change my diet too, I don't feel like " composting " any

> more!. It's wonderful that you have a partner to do this with.

 

good luck with phase1 mark and keep us posted on your progress

 

the greens are ''in season'' also, locally grown greens that is... and i

know ''local'' makes a difference cuz i gained 10#'s in 6 weeks this

spring when the garden started producing and i was grazing several times

a day

 

jfi...

i've also been buying really nice greens from a local farmer who

supplies the food co-op..

i didn't feel up to driving out to the farm the other day so i picked up

some of his beet greens at the co-op and they were pretty sad (lotsa

spoiled leaves) so it *does* make a difference how fresh things are

steve solomon (http://www.soilandhealth.org/) says hydro-cooled greens

lose 50% of their vitamin content within 4 hours of harvest...

most of the other critters on the planet eat it ''on the spot "

 

norm  :))~

 

......  raw food, simply wonderful  .....

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Hey, can you share the name of the farmer.

 

THANKS!! Paula

 

kelpguy <kelpguy wrote:

> Might as well change my diet too, I don't feel like " composting " any

> more!. It's wonderful that you have a partner to do this with.

 

good luck with phase1 mark and keep us posted on your progress

 

the greens are ''in season'' also, locally grown greens that is... and i

know ''local'' makes a difference cuz i gained 10#'s in 6 weeks this

spring when the garden started producing and i was grazing several times

a day

 

jfi...

i've also been buying really nice greens from a local farmer who

supplies the food co-op..

i didn't feel up to driving out to the farm the other day so i picked up

some of his beet greens at the co-op and they were pretty sad (lotsa

spoiled leaves) so it *does* make a difference how fresh things are

steve solomon (http://www.soilandhealth.org/) says hydro-cooled greens

lose 50% of their vitamin content within 4 hours of harvest...

most of the other critters on the planet eat it ''on the spot "

 

norm :))~

 

...... raw food, simply wonderful .....

 

 

 

 

 

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I, myself, have resisted dropping all sugars including fruit from my nutrition

because I know fruit is good. However, with a deeply entrenched candida

problem, FRUIT IS BAD. Now, I am beginning my 4th week with no sugar and feel

better than I've felt in years.

-

Martha Burton

RawSeattle

Sunday, June 27, 2004 5:26 PM

Re: [RawSeattle] Phase I

 

 

Mark has reasons for wanting to change his diet. Can't they be respected

without having to know exactly what they are, and trying to talk him out

of them?

 

Martha

 

 

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As far as feeling badly while on Phase 1, there are things that can

be done to lessen, if not completely obliterate any of the reactions

you may have while the candida is dying off.

 

If you all don't know, I am 100% for cleansing. I have talked to my

health coach about the candida cleanse and he said to do the

following - which he learned from his naturopath friend in

California (believe it or not, the naturopath is raw!). The

products he mentions are from 'Arise and Shine' cleansing products.

I will just include the excerpt from his email below....

 

********************************

Here's the usage guidelines:

 

Yeast End - 1 and a 1/2 of the yellow scooper 3 times per day after

or in between meals.

 

Flora Grow - Take 3 capsules twice per day in between meals.

 

Keep the Flora Grow & Yeast End 2 and a 1/2 hours apart.

 

Pro-seed - 8-10 drops mixed well in 5 oz. or more or juice, tea, or

water, 2-3 times per day, before, during or after meals.

 

If she has ElectroLife, take 2-3 capsules per day with meals.

 

Do a couple water enemas per week....and do 1 coffee enema per week.

 

It would be good to do Flora Grow implants by opening 6-8 capsules

in 16 ounces of spring water, soak for 48 hours. Stir and keep

covered. Room temp is fine for storage.

 

The divide amount in 1/2 and you'll use 8 ounces at a time. Then put

in enema bag. Take the bacteria saturated enema water into the colon

and hold for as long as you can lying on the right side with knees

drawn up to chest.

 

After you are done with that one, take the other 8 ounces and ad

another 8 ounces of straight spring water. Leave overnight. The next

day implant the entire solution and repeat the same process.

 

****************************************************

 

Perhaps this info will help. There is more information on the

enemas and implants in Dr Anderson's books (Cleanse and Purify

Thyself - Book 1 and Book 2)

Paula

 

 

 

RawSeattle , " Mark Hovila " <hovila@c...> wrote:

> Shari,

>

> Jeez, you're right, good point! But to tell you the truth, I'm

burning out on fruit. Too yin or something. I need to make some

changes. I don't know, what did Cousens say, three months for phase

1? I'm going to get into the recipe thing, which I've never done

before. Seems like a big year for changes, personally (wife moving

out), business, etc. Might as well change my diet too, I don't

feel like " composting " any more!. It's wonderful that you have a

partner to do this with.

>

> Somebody asked here recently about getting some dark field blood

testing done. Does anybody know a place locally that will do it? I

don't even know my blood type.

>

> Mark

>

>

>

> Mark - are you SURE you want to start Phase I in the middle of

the best time of year for fruit?! Joe and I did Phase I during

February and March of this year. How long are you planning?

>

> It was tough but I was really feeling well by the end of 50

days, that was our goal. Joe was a basket case as far as craving

fruit. Which is very interesting because he is the one more

stringent about his diet than I and I was just humming right along

at the end.

>

> There are a couple other folks on the Seattle list that have

done Phase I. I'd be interested in hearing from them.

>

> Shari

>

>

>

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Cleansing the bowel does reduce a lot of symptoms. If you have the

money, a colonic will cleanse the bowel much more thoroughly than an

enema. Putting coffee into the bowel is not a very healthful thing

to do, some of the liquid is absorbed through the intestinal lining

and goes into the bloodstream. Coffee is a stimulant with substances

like caffeine and theobromine, which are not good for the body.

 

Ron Koenig

 

RawSeattle , " wolfmother1 " <wolfmother1>

wrote:

> which he learned from his naturopath friend in

> California (believe it or not, the naturopath is raw!).

 

> ********************************

> Here's the usage guidelines:

>

> Do a couple water enemas per week....and do 1 coffee enema per week.

>

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