Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 How old is your son? I know that our son was long and lanky until he was over 20. Now he is almost 22 and he has filled out some, but is still considered " skinny " by most Americans who are overweight. Is your son healthy? Happy? Has energy? Don't think there's much to worry about except how people perceive him and that's their problem! But if you still feel the need to put weight on him, how about avocados, young coconuts, durian.............??? Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Thank you Shari, but he hates avocados, coconuts and anything fat. He will find every little piece of nuts and put it on the edge of his plate. He is 16 (almost 17). Not sure how much he is healthy, he doesn't get ever flew or cold, no cavities in his teeth, all his grades are A, his vision is good (although my eyes minus 4). Not sure how to measure his happiness or energy, I think I had more of it in his age, but we are different blood types, I am O, and he is A. I worry because my friend's son (14 years old) just got diabetes, and that boy is very skinny and doesn't like sports, sitting all day long at the computer like my son. Love and blessings, viola Shari Viger <shavig wrote: How old is your son? I know that our son was long and lanky until he was over 20. Now he is almost 22 and he has filled out some, but is still considered " skinny " by most Americans who are overweight. Is your son healthy? Happy? Has energy? Don't think there's much to worry about except how people perceive him and that's their problem! But if you still feel the need to put weight on him, how about avocados, young coconuts, durian.............??? Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 I'm wondering about other things; any learning, behavioral, or social conditions, night and day patterns, previous homeopathic inquiries, trauma physically, mentally, spiritually, birth and brain. The amounts of stress upon each unique individual is epic proportions in our world. You've found a thread, now keep looking for the whole ball. I do not know the current web address but you can find it at this number for Betty Lamont of Developmental Movement Center in Seattle; 206.525.8038. - viola RawSeattle Tuesday, July 20, 2004 4:23 PM Re: [RawSeattle] son & weight gain Thank you Shari, but he hates avocados, coconuts and anything fat. He will find every little piece of nuts and put it on the edge of his plate. He is 16 (almost 17). Not sure how much he is healthy, he doesn't get ever flew or cold, no cavities in his teeth, all his grades are A, his vision is good (although my eyes minus 4). Not sure how to measure his happiness or energy, I think I had more of it in his age, but we are different blood types, I am O, and he is A. I worry because my friend's son (14 years old) just got diabetes, and that boy is very skinny and doesn't like sports, sitting all day long at the computer like my son. Love and blessings, viola Shari Viger <shavig wrote: How old is your son? I know that our son was long and lanky until he was over 20. Now he is almost 22 and he has filled out some, but is still considered " skinny " by most Americans who are overweight. Is your son healthy? Happy? Has energy? Don't think there's much to worry about except how people perceive him and that's their problem! But if you still feel the need to put weight on him, how about avocados, young coconuts, durian.............??? Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 - " Shari Viger " <shavig <RawSeattle > > But if you still feel the need to put weight on him, how about avocados, > young coconuts, durian.............??? > >Shari > Has anybody succeeded in putting on weight by eating avocados, coconut and durians? I eat avocados, nuts and coconuts almost every day but I haven't been able to put on any weight. I eat durians occasionally too. My daughter suggested me to fatten up before my parents came to visit but I just couldn't. My dad said it was almost shocking to see how thin I was. I told him it was because he had been seeing too many fat people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Helen, I read Raw Power!, a book on raw body building by Nature's First Law (can't remember the author). He recommended combining resistance lifting, young coconuts and greens. My reason for reading it was that I weighed 155 lb at 6'1 " and didn't think I could afford to lose weight. In the end I didn't follow any of the book's advice because I decided that other peoples' perceptions aren't my problem and I felt so good at 145 lb that I didn't need to worry about it for my own health. By the way, it's an amazing feeling to be that light with that much energy! Nickolas Hein Morgantown WV - Helen RawSeattle Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:19 PM Re: [RawSeattle] son & weight gain - " Shari Viger " <shavig <RawSeattle > > But if you still feel the need to put weight on him, how about avocados, > young coconuts, durian.............??? > >Shari > Has anybody succeeded in putting on weight by eating avocados, coconut and durians? I eat avocados, nuts and coconuts almost every day but I haven't been able to put on any weight. I eat durians occasionally too. My daughter suggested me to fatten up before my parents came to visit but I just couldn't. My dad said it was almost shocking to see how thin I was. I told him it was because he had been seeing too many fat people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 I hate to even bring this up, but might he be anoxeric? If he is so concerned with consuming fats, he may have a problem. They say teenage boys are the #1 over looked age group for anorexia. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Shari, he is not concerned, he just really doesn't like it. He gains weight in summer camps always, that means he doesn't do anything deliberately keeping him skinny. There are no computers and televisions in camps, and I think this is what makes the difference. Shari Viger <shavig wrote:I hate to even bring this up, but might he be anoxeric? If he is so concerned with consuming fats, he may have a problem. They say teenage boys are the #1 over looked age group for anorexia. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 >> He recommended combining resistance lifting, young coconuts and greens... I thought coconut is mostly saturated fat, which is bad. i looked several links on the Internet, it says everywhere that coconut fat is saturated. Saturated Fat: •tends to increase blood cholesterol levels. Most saturated fats tend to be solid at room temperature, with the exception of tropical oils. • found mostly in meat and dairy products, as well as some vegetable oils, such as coconut and palm oils (tropical oils). Polyunsaturated Fat: • tends to lower blood cholesterol levels ( " bad " cholesterol and " good " cholesterol) • found mostly in plant sources. (safflower, sunflower, soybean, corn, cottonseed) Recent research published in Circulation magazine highlights the link between high levels of omega-6 and heart problems. In addition, world expert on fats, Udo Erasmus recommends a significant reduction in omega-6 consumption, in favor of more omega-3. Ideally, look for polyunsaturates that contain the omega-3 essential fatty acid (alpha-linolenic acid, LNA), like flax oil, hemp oil, pumpkin seeds, walnuts or oily fish. Monounsaturated Fat: • tends to lower LDL cholesterol (the " bad " cholesterol) • found in both plant and animal products, such as olive oil, canola oil, peanut oil, and in some plant foods such as avocado Nick <nick.hein wrote: Helen, I read Raw Power!, a book on raw body building by Nature's First Law (can't remember the author). He recommended combining resistance lifting, young coconuts and greens. My reason for reading it was that I weighed 155 lb at 6'1 " and didn't think I could afford to lose weight. In the end I didn't follow any of the book's advice because I decided that other peoples' perceptions aren't my problem and I felt so good at 145 lb that I didn't need to worry about it for my own health. By the way, it's an amazing feeling to be that light with that much energy! Nickolas Hein Morgantown WV - Helen RawSeattle Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:19 PM Re: [RawSeattle] son & weight gain - " Shari Viger " <shavig <RawSeattle > > But if you still feel the need to put weight on him, how about avocados, > young coconuts, durian.............??? > >Shari > Has anybody succeeded in putting on weight by eating avocados, coconut and durians? I eat avocados, nuts and coconuts almost every day but I haven't been able to put on any weight. I eat durians occasionally too. My daughter suggested me to fatten up before my parents came to visit but I just couldn't. My dad said it was almost shocking to see how thin I was. I told him it was because he had been seeing too many fat people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Thanks Kevin, from everything you mentioned, I can only say that he is not very social, just like his father, and I am not very social myself. No traumas, disorders or any stress. KEVIN THURBER <aikneada wrote:I'm wondering about other things; any learning, behavioral, or social conditions, night and day patterns, previous homeopathic inquiries, trauma physically, mentally, spiritually, birth and brain. The amounts of stress upon each unique individual is epic proportions in our world. You've found a thread, now keep looking for the whole ball. I do not know the current web address but you can find it at this number for Betty Lamont of Developmental Movement Center in Seattle; 206.525.8038. Vote for the stars of 's next ad campaign! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Raw fats are good, right, regardless of type? I mean, coconut raw is a healthy choice or even a steak tar tar over a cooked alternative. Or, am I missing something? - " viola " <Viola816 <RawSeattle > Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:43 AM Re: [RawSeattle] son & weight gain >> He recommended combining resistance lifting, young coconuts and greens... I thought coconut is mostly saturated fat, which is bad. i looked several links on the Internet, it says everywhere that coconut fat is saturated. Saturated Fat: ..tends to increase blood cholesterol levels. Most saturated fats tend to be solid at room temperature, with the exception of tropical oils. .. found mostly in meat and dairy products, as well as some vegetable oils, such as coconut and palm oils (tropical oils). Polyunsaturated Fat: .. tends to lower blood cholesterol levels ( " bad " cholesterol and " good " cholesterol) .. found mostly in plant sources. (safflower, sunflower, soybean, corn, cottonseed) Recent research published in Circulation magazine highlights the link between high levels of omega-6 and heart problems. In addition, world expert on fats, Udo Erasmus recommends a significant reduction in omega-6 consumption, in favor of more omega-3. Ideally, look for polyunsaturates that contain the omega-3 essential fatty acid (alpha-linolenic acid, LNA), like flax oil, hemp oil, pumpkin seeds, walnuts or oily fish. Monounsaturated Fat: .. tends to lower LDL cholesterol (the " bad " cholesterol) .. found in both plant and animal products, such as olive oil, canola oil, peanut oil, and in some plant foods such as avocado Nick <nick.hein wrote: Helen, I read Raw Power!, a book on raw body building by Nature's First Law (can't remember the author). He recommended combining resistance lifting, young coconuts and greens. My reason for reading it was that I weighed 155 lb at 6'1 " and didn't think I could afford to lose weight. In the end I didn't follow any of the book's advice because I decided that other peoples' perceptions aren't my problem and I felt so good at 145 lb that I didn't need to worry about it for my own health. By the way, it's an amazing feeling to be that light with that much energy! Nickolas Hein Morgantown WV - Helen RawSeattle Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:19 PM Re: [RawSeattle] son & weight gain - " Shari Viger " <shavig <RawSeattle > > But if you still feel the need to put weight on him, how about avocados, > young coconuts, durian.............??? > >Shari > Has anybody succeeded in putting on weight by eating avocados, coconut and durians? I eat avocados, nuts and coconuts almost every day but I haven't been able to put on any weight. I eat durians occasionally too. My daughter suggested me to fatten up before my parents came to visit but I just couldn't. My dad said it was almost shocking to see how thin I was. I told him it was because he had been seeing too many fat people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Viola, You'd be surprised. For instance, when you go through assessment, things like always cutting tags off cloths, or never being able to wear socks or have to wear them, or aversions to say hot or cold, sport and play, particular activities, rage, eye movement, etc., have roots in pons and mid-brain organization. This organization is laid down through the movement a baby goes through to move through space given ideal circumstances and situations like, say, from birth ample belly time, crawling, creeping (the transition from belly to knees and hands which many parents encourage their children to rush through because they want to have the first baby that walks at 3 months old.) Many parents bind their babies in confining contraptions for convenience sake never realizing they are prompting later challenges. From 0 to 3 months the baby lays their on the belly till it learns to crawl. As this progression happens they eventually get to their hands and feet called creeping. From there, I think it goes to bear walking and then upright. These stages are above the mid-brain level. This is generally from 3-6 months. The pons is just above the medulla and spinal cord which has developed within the womb. From birth to 3 months the body organizes the senses through movement located within the pons. As time goes on, the higher centers of the brain begin organizing. From 3-6 months the mid-brain organizes. On and on. All this organization is laid down through the movemtents this baby must make in order to function at optimal efficiency later in life. And/or, as was my case, I was hit by a passing cyclist at 6 from the right side as I ran across the street. Traumas such as these and other things of which you can discuss with her are pertinent to your assessment. Only until I met Betty had I looked at that accident as brain trauma which had shaped my life influencing choices and decisions. Once I began developmental movement therapy things began getting brighter but it was a challenging and rewarding road to travel. I had to do it because I was drawn naturally. I see all around me people, now, with problems directly associated with gaps, misorganization, and damaged brains which will respond to movement therapy. It changed my life. Sincerely, Kevin - viola RawSeattle Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:13 AM Re: [RawSeattle] son & weight gain Thanks Kevin, from everything you mentioned, I can only say that he is not very social, just like his father, and I am not very social myself. No traumas, disorders or any stress. KEVIN THURBER <aikneada wrote:I'm wondering about other things; any learning, behavioral, or social conditions, night and day patterns, previous homeopathic inquiries, trauma physically, mentally, spiritually, birth and brain. The amounts of stress upon each unique individual is epic proportions in our world. You've found a thread, now keep looking for the whole ball. I do not know the current web address but you can find it at this number for Betty Lamont of Developmental Movement Center in Seattle; 206.525.8038. Vote for the stars of 's next ad campaign! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Thank you Kevin, this sounds interesting, although my kid didn’t have any traumas, I think movement therapy will be helpful for somebody who sits at the computer all day long, so we should try. Love and blessings, viola KEVIN THURBER <aikneada wrote:Viola, You'd be surprised. For instance, when you go through assessment, things like always cutting tags off cloths, or never being able to wear socks or have to wear them, or aversions to say hot or cold, sport and play, particular activities, rage, eye movement, etc., have roots in pons and mid-brain organization. This organization is laid down through the movement a baby goes through to move through space given ideal circumstances and situations like, say, from birth ample belly time, crawling, creeping (the transition from belly to knees and hands which many parents encourage their children to rush through because they want to have the first baby that walks at 3 months old.) Many parents bind their babies in confining contraptions for convenience sake never realizing they are prompting later challenges. From 0 to 3 months the baby lays their on the belly till it learns to crawl. As this progression happens they eventually get to their hands and feet called creeping. From there, I think it goes to bear walking and then upright. These stages are above the mid-brain level. This is generally from 3-6 months. The pons is just above the medulla and spinal cord which has developed within the womb. From birth to 3 months the body organizes the senses through movement located within the pons. As time goes on, the higher centers of the brain begin organizing. From 3-6 months the mid-brain organizes. On and on. All this organization is laid down through the movemtents this baby must make in order to function at optimal efficiency later in life. And/or, as was my case, I was hit by a passing cyclist at 6 from the right side as I ran across the street. Traumas such as these and other things of which you can discuss with her are pertinent to your assessment. Only until I met Betty had I looked at that accident as brain trauma which had shaped my life influencing choices and decisions. Once I began developmental movement therapy things began getting brighter but it was a challenging and rewarding road to travel. I had to do it because I was drawn naturally. I see all around me people, now, with problems directly associated with gaps, misorganization, and damaged brains which will respond to movement therapy. It changed my life. Sincerely, Kevin - viola RawSeattle Wednesday, July 21, 2004 10:13 AM Re: [RawSeattle] son & weight gain Thanks Kevin, from everything you mentioned, I can only say that he is not very social, just like his father, and I am not very social myself. No traumas, disorders or any stress. KEVIN THURBER <aikneada wrote:I'm wondering about other things; any learning, behavioral, or social conditions, night and day patterns, previous homeopathic inquiries, trauma physically, mentally, spiritually, birth and brain. The amounts of stress upon each unique individual is epic proportions in our world. You've found a thread, now keep looking for the whole ball. I do not know the current web address but you can find it at this number for Betty Lamont of Developmental Movement Center in Seattle; 206.525.8038. Vote for the stars of 's next ad campaign! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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