Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 I hope this is an appropriate question to ask. I did recently become a vegetarian and also trying to limit the intake of dairy/egg products. Based on recent discussions about soy milk maker, I'm thinking about getting one. At the same time, I came across the information which is quite disturbing. See the site: www.soyonlineservice.co.nz So the question is about how healthy is the soy (raw, tofu and so on) to be a substantial part of a veg. diet? I'm not trying to get any discussion started considering how wide is the audience. But some info/help on the subject would be great. Having two kids, we cook all the food from the scratch, no sweets, colas or junk food is allowed in our house. The safety and the quality of the produce are very important. As long as the raw soybean is safe, the problems with the industrialized processed soy food are not that important for now. Thanks and have a good weekend. Sergei. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 there was a good article about soy in the april 2003 issue of vegetarian times. On 08/15/03, falt93_sergei <falt93_sergei wrote: > I hope this is an appropriate question to ask. I did recently become a > vegetarian and also trying to limit the intake of dairy/egg products. > Based on recent discussions about soy milk maker, I'm thinking about > getting one. At the same time, I came across the information which is > quite disturbing. See the site: www.soyonlineservice.co.nz > > So the question is about how healthy is the soy (raw, tofu and so on) > to be a substantial part of a veg. diet? I'm not trying to get any > discussion started considering how wide is the audience. But some > info/help on the subject would be great. > > Having two kids, we cook all the food from the scratch, no sweets, > colas or junk food is allowed in our house. The safety and the quality > of the produce are very important. As long as the raw soybean is safe, > the problems with the industrialized processed soy food are not that > important for now. > > Thanks and have a good weekend. > Sergei. > > > > > BAY AREA VEGETARIANS (BAV) is a community group for veggies to network & find > support. Free membership and lots of free events :-) See below links for more > veggie info.... > > Event Calendar, Charter, FAQ (/) and More! > > http://www.bayareaveg.org/ > > BAV Message board (discussions and carpool posts) > http://www.generationv.org/forum > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 While this website has some useful information, the sound of it is very alarmist. There might be truth to phytoestrogens, etc., but I think your use of the word " substantial " is the key here. Soy foods were never intended to be a substantial part of a diet. As is typical in America, we have gone overboard in our indulgence in soy foods. Reasons include the line we have been fed all these decades about how much protein we need, and if we go vegetarian or -heaven forbid ! - VEGAN - we better substitute as much protein as we can for meat & cheese. The fact is we don't need nearly as much protein as is promoted by the meat and dairy industry, and therefore, we don't need that much soy in our diets! The countries in which the healthiest humans live rely on vegetables fruits, legumes and grains. Soy, like meat or fish, plays a minor role. Think of soy as a treat. I know some devout vegans who study nutrition, teach and cater, who don't do soy or tofu at all because of the fat, phytoestrogens, and all. You can try this website, and I know there are others. http://www.vegansociety.com/html/info/info14.html I'm sure you'll hear more from other readers here as well. For example, I used to hear 60 grams of protein as the required amount, when I was younger and foolish enough to " diet " . Now, according to this website, as I've heard & read before, I really only need 46 or so. Personally, I don't pay attention to any of the counting stuff. Diversity, variety is the key in diet as with all things. Basically, I think the concern over protein has led many people to overdo soy the way they overdo animal products. I've lived years without meat & dairy, and I am allergic to soy (!), but am quite healthy thank you. Good luck, and I hope this " rant " has helped! Marcy : www.soyonlineservice.co.nz > > So the question is about how healthy is the soy (raw, tofu and so on) > to be a substantial part of a veg. diet? I'm not trying to get any > discussion started considering how wide is the audience. But some > info/help on the subject would be great. > > > > > > BAY AREA VEGETARIANS (BAV) is a community group for veggies to network & find > support. Free membership and lots of free events :-) See below links for more > veggie info.... > > Event Calendar, Charter, FAQ (/) and More! > > http://www.bayareaveg.org/ > > BAV Message board (discussions and carpool posts) > http://www.generationv.org/forum > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2003 Report Share Posted August 20, 2003 Hi, I also had some questions about soy. I heard that it was cancer-causing, which I didn't believe, but then I heard that it's not the soy, but an ingredient called carageenan. But then...I heard that carageenan is just a derivative of seaweed. How harmful is that, really??? Confused! A Soy Devotee _______________ <b>Get MSN 8</b> and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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