Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 In a message dated 04/05/2002 9:12:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, pat writes: Send me your email address with the five Send my email address and money wrapped in paper????? sounds like a plan to me!!!!! Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 On 5 Apr 2002 09:44:00 -0000, you wrote: >Message: 1 > Thu, 04 Apr 2002 18:05:39 -0000 > " radiantbeings " <radiantbeings >Cooking and eating healthy for thirty years now! > <snip> > I love to create recipes of my own, and for five (U.S. >or Canadian, depending on where you are) dollars, I will send you a >week's worth of my own healthy dinner recipes, that take less than >thirty minutes to prepare! Send me your email address with the five >dollars cash, wrapped in paper, and I promise it will be the tastiest >five dollars you ever spent, or your money back... so you can't lose! > >Radiance Tech >P.O. Box 1227 >Otter Point, BC V0S1N0 >Canada > To the list owner: Surely spam is forbidden on this list? I expect you'll be banning this spammer immediately. The purpose of spamming this list is to get money, obviously, and it's very inappropriate. (I'm restraining myself from calling the spammer the obscenities which come to my mind.) Cheers, Pat (who has seen many newsgroups totally ruined by filthy spammers - but they can be controlled on mailing lists) -- Pat Meadows Software development and computer consulting http://www.wellsborocomputing.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 I've got to say, I *love* our VitaMix. Incredibly happy with it. We bought it " for the baby " and have made baby food in it exactly once. My husband really enjoys making bread from actual wheat berries, and I use it for juicing and making soup. It's a lot of fun. And it does indeed grind all sorts of grains into flour in 2 minutes. (We are starting to use it to grind cereals for the baby, so there you go. Hugely expensive purchase justified.) -kt Message: 7 Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:55:13 -0700 " Katie Mangan " <kmangan VItamix 5000 I'm wondering if anyone has one of these and what they think of it? I'm especially intrigued by the grain grinding ability. Thanks , Katie Hotjobs: Enter the " Signing Bonus " Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Hi Melanie, Welcome! Maybe it would help to make a conscious show of giving your daughter lots of protein when grandmum is around. My 1.5-year old would eat cooked room-temperature kidney beans and garbanzo beans (chickpeas) as finger foods. Try that followed by some brown rice. Leave the box (or bag) out to show mum how much protein is in a serving (presuming the protein content is mentioned as it is in the US). Most people have no idea that brown rice and whole-grain pasta has protein! Dark red kidney beans and lentils are great sources of iron too. I recently met my boyfriend's parents (we are in our 30s). Both parents are quite overweight, sedentary meat-eaters. His father, who is a biology professor, made some quohog (clam) chowder, which I tasted to be polite. They know I'm a vegetarian, but as that questions everything they know to be true, his dad insisted that I couldn't possibly be getting the protein I need with a vegetarian diet. He smiled condescendingly, saying I can only obtain the protein I need by eating meat. I hated to argue with him, but I said there are 8 essential amino acids, all of which can be obtained in a vegetarian diet. The rest of them can be synthesized. " Not very well, " he said, and added smugly, " I KNOW. I teach this stuff. " This bothered me long after we left. Not only could this become an uncomfortable rift between me and my {perhaps} future father-in-law, but he's a biology professor, teaching what sounds to me like backwards old-world science to people. But the actual science of amino acid combining in the human body is beyond me. So the next day I got out my books, and went online. I found many UK and US nutrition websites about protein combining, and how that has been deemed to be unecessary for vegetarians, especially if you eat a variety of proteins over the course of one day. The incomplete proteins stay in your body for up to a few days and have been shown to recombine with other incomplete proteins as necessary. Nevertheless, can anyone refer me to any research that says meat is the only way to get all the amino acids? Or was his dad just being a blow-hard to win the point? I will study up before my meetings with his dad and have my answers--and sources--ready. If it comes up, I will gently cite what I've read. In the end, I know I am going to outlive them all. I'm the one who is trying to stay one step ahead of my meat-eating grandparents, who suffered in later decades from heart disease, strokes, colon cancer, and diabetes. I can only hope that our knowlegeable exchanges with our families (and families to be, perhaps) are making them question their beliefs, like they are making me question mine. Good luck! Veggie Val Message: 8 Mon, 12 Jan 2004 04:59:12 -0000 " Melanie " <melaniekcasto Hello, New here My mum lectures me about Protien for my daughter, and Iron for her, and myself, since I have been known to be a little on the anemic side. I asked my daughter's dr. about feeding her vegetarian, and he was very happy to hear that I had made that choice. Reguardless, I get the same old lecture from my mum. She is startling with her lectures. Hotjobs: Enter the " Signing Bonus " Sweepstakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Hi Melanie, Welcome! Maybe it would help to make a conscious show of giving your daughter lots of protein when grandmum is around. My 1.5-year old would eat cooked room-temperature kidney beans and garbanzo beans (chickpeas) as finger foods. Try that followed by some brown rice. Leave the box (or bag) out to show mum how much protein is in a serving (presuming the protein content is mentioned as it is in the US). Most people have no idea that brown rice and whole-grain pasta has protein! Dark red kidney beans and lentils are great sources of iron too. I recently met my boyfriend's parents (we are in our 30s). Both parents are quite overweight, sedentary meat-eaters. His father, who is a biology professor, made some quohog (clam) chowder, which I tasted to be polite. They know I'm a vegetarian, but as that questions everything they know to be true, his dad insisted that I couldn't possibly be getting the protein I need with a vegetarian diet. He smiled condescendingly, saying I can only obtain the protein I need by eating meat. I hated to argue with him, but I said there are 8 essential amino acids, all of which can be obtained in a vegetarian diet. The rest of them can be synthesized. " Not very well, " he said, and added smugly, " I KNOW. I teach this stuff. " This bothered me long after we left. Not only could this become an uncomfortable rift between me and my {perhaps} future father-in-law, but he's a biology professor, teaching what sounds to me like backwards old-world science to people. But the actual science of amino acid combining in the human body is beyond me. So the next day I got out my books, and went online. I found many UK and US nutrition websites about protein combining, and how that has been deemed to be unecessary for vegetarians, especially if you eat a variety of proteins over the course of one day. The incomplete proteins stay in your body for up to a few days and have been shown to recombine with other incomplete proteins as necessary. Nevertheless, can anyone refer me to any research that says meat is the only way to get all the amino acids? Or was his dad just being a blow-hard to win the point? I will study up before my meetings with his dad and have my answers--and sources--ready. If it comes up, I will gently cite what I've read. In the end, I know I am going to outlive them all. I'm the one who is trying to stay one step ahead of my meat-eating grandparents, who suffered in later decades from heart disease, strokes, colon cancer, and diabetes. I can only hope that our knowlegeable exchanges with our families (and families to be, perhaps) are making them question their beliefs, like they are making me question mine. Good luck! Veggie Val Message: 8 Mon, 12 Jan 2004 04:59:12 -0000 " Melanie " <melaniekcasto Hello, New here My mum lectures me about Protien for my daughter, and Iron for her, and myself, since I have been known to be a little on the anemic side. I asked my daughter's dr. about feeding her vegetarian, and he was very happy to hear that I had made that choice. Reguardless, I get the same old lecture from my mum. She is startling with her lectures. Hotjobs: Enter the " Signing Bonus " Sweepstakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 I went to pcrm.org and found in the frequently asked questions - a protein article that you may want to print out. It talks about incomplete proteins and how it is outdated now to believe we need to combine protein at the same meal. Good Luck, Tracy > Nevertheless, can anyone refer me to any research that says meat is the > only way to get all the amino acids? Or was his dad just being a blow-hard to > win the point? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Those are all great ideas, but we live 1000's of miles away, I will just have to do those things on holidays to her house, or her to mine. Thank you. As for meat being the best source of protein, I know of no evidence that has been out to say that is true. Infact, I have heard so much science stating that meat is not as healthy as once thought. It seems to me, there is a lot of propaganda out there that would have one believing we need to eat meat everyday to stay healty. My mum is the same way as your boyfriend's parents. She is an English lady, who came to the US in the mid 50's, with her parents, and has bought into all the old " knowledge " that beef, is actually the best source of nutrition for people. I think she knows how to make beef any way there is, but as a result, she suffers from horribly high blood pressure, obesity, and high cholesterol. He is very unhealthy. But they old school of thought is just that, meat is the best way we can obtain our minerals, such as protein, iron, and B sub 12. Especially cow's meat. Since it is rich in these minerals. But there are great UK and US websites, along with books out there that will counter your boyfriend's father. Biology professor or not. My biology professor, here in the US, was a vegan, and was pretty preachy about they benefits of being a vegetarian, rather than an omnivor. Melanie , StarryValentine <starryv2003> wrote: > Hi Melanie, > Welcome! Maybe it would help to make a conscious show of giving your daughter lots of protein when grandmum is around. My 1.5-year old would eat cooked room-temperature kidney beans and garbanzo beans (chickpeas) as finger foods. Try that followed by some brown rice. Leave the box (or bag) out to show mum how much protein is in a serving (presuming the protein content is mentioned as it is in the US). Most people have no idea that brown rice and whole-grain pasta has protein! Dark red kidney beans and lentils are great sources of iron too. > > I recently met my boyfriend's parents (we are in our 30s). Both parents are quite overweight, sedentary meat-eaters. His father, who is a biology professor, made some quohog (clam) chowder, which I tasted to be polite. They know I'm a vegetarian, but as that questions everything they know to be true, his dad insisted that I couldn't possibly be getting the protein I need with a vegetarian diet. > > He smiled condescendingly, saying I can only obtain the protein I need by eating meat. I hated to argue with him, but I said there are 8 essential amino acids, all of which can be obtained in a vegetarian diet. The rest of them can be synthesized. > " Not very well, " he said, and added smugly, " I KNOW. I teach this stuff. " > This bothered me long after we left. Not only could this become an uncomfortable rift between me and my {perhaps} future father-in-law, but he's a biology professor, teaching what sounds to me like backwards old-world science to people. But the actual science of amino acid combining in the human body is beyond me. > > So the next day I got out my books, and went online. I found many UK and US nutrition websites about protein combining, and how that has been deemed to be unecessary for vegetarians, especially if you eat a variety of proteins over the course of one day. The incomplete proteins stay in your body for up to a few days and have been shown to recombine with other incomplete proteins as necessary. > > Nevertheless, can anyone refer me to any research that says meat is the only way to get all the amino acids? Or was his dad just being a blow-hard to win the point? > > I will study up before my meetings with his dad and have my answers--and sources--ready. If it comes up, I will gently cite what I've read. > > In the end, I know I am going to outlive them all. I'm the one who is trying to stay one step ahead of my meat-eating grandparents, who suffered in later decades from heart disease, strokes, colon cancer, and diabetes. > > I can only hope that our knowlegeable exchanges with our families (and families to be, perhaps) are making them question their beliefs, like they are making me question mine. > > Good luck! > Veggie Val > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 I dont know a lot about proteins except that you are correct that you can easily get a complete protein by eating a variety of foods throughout the day (not necesarily within the same meal as was once thought needed). One thing I do know is that there is a complete protein source other than meat - SOY. But even without soy, it is easy enough to accomplish, for example, a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on whole wheat bread is a complete protein. , StarryValentine <starryv2003> wrote: > Nevertheless, can anyone refer me to any research that says meat is the only way to get all the amino acids? Or was his dad just being a blow-hard to win the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 HI, Just want to let you all know that if you use Young Living Essential Oils, they are definitely NOT a cruelty-free company. Somebody just gave me two jars of their new Animal Scents Hand Creme. It contains Mink oil, lanolin and other gross stuff. It is being returned. I emailed and called the company to see if somehow the Mink Oil "might" have been derived from companion minks who died a peaceful death from old age. Nope. They said they don't kill the minks, but the oil is derived from minks killed by hunters... I said it was too bad they couldn't be a cruelty free company with all the "love and light" they promote. Oh well... http://www.youngliving-essentialoils.com/ Marcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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