Avon

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I learned recently that Avon doesn't test on animals, & I'd like to try their deodorant (the ones at the health food stores just don't cut it). Does anyone sell Avon products, or know of someone who does, preferably in SF? Thanks! Thea

 

 

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It's great if Avon doesn't test its products on

animals, but they probably use a lot of animal-derived

ingredients. What's more, Avon sponsors the Avon Walk

for Breast Cancer through its Avon Foundation, which

on its face looks like a lovely thing. However, it is

important for animal advocates to note that the money

from the walk goes to care (which means drugs and

surgery) and " finding a cure " , which means research,

which means plenty of animal experiments, I'm sure.

Here's a link to a blurb about the walk

http://www.avonwalk.org/site/PageServer?pagename=cau_avon_foundation

I don't see anything about prevention.

 

Sorry to be a downer.

Sandra

 

 

 

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> I learned recently that Avon doesn't test on

> animals, & I'd like to try their deodorant (the ones

> at the health food stores just don't cut it). Does

> anyone sell Avon products, or know of someone who

> does, preferably in SF? Thanks! Thea

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>It's great if Avon doesn't test its products on>animals, but they probably use a lot of animal-derived>ingredients. What's more, Avon sponsors the Avon Walk>for Breast Cancer through its Avon Foundation, which>on its face looks like a lovely thing. However, it is>important for animal advocates to note that the money>from the walk goes to care (which means drugs and>surgery) and "finding a cure", which means research,>which means plenty of animal experiments, I'm sure.>Here's a link to a blurb about the walk>http://www.avonwalk.org/site/PageServer?pagename=cau_avon_foundation>I don't see anything about prevention. That's a great point to consider, when we purchase products, where does the money go. It's a nice bonus when we can do business with a veggie person (which was along the lines of Thea's original intent, I think).

Regarding Avon and what they do ... PETA has an entire website called the Animal Savings Club to help animals in Labs. There is a page about Avon. Here's the URL so you can check it out.http://www.animalsavingsclub.com/lifeSaverCharity-Avon.aspOne statement caught my eye and may address the discussion:" Rather than throwing money away on go-nowhere experiments on animals, the Avon Breast Cancer Crusade channels much-needed funds toward a growing network of clinical research, medical, social service, and community-based organizations. "I also wanted to share another URL that I keep handy -- this is PCRM's list of charities that do not fund animal experimentation:http://www.humaneseal.org/

 

I think this is really important -- when we have a real-life situation where we want to buy a product and then ultimately don't because of ethical concerns, it is especially worthwhile to let the company know why. Companies care about their financial bottom line and it's always great when we have a change to flex our veggie spending power!

Cheers,Tammy

 

 

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Have you tried Tom's of Maine, Deodorant & Anti-Perspirant?

" http://www.tomsofmaine.com/toms/product.asp?dept%5Fid=500 & pf%5Fid=BW%

2DNAPD "

It works better than any other vegan and natural kind I've tried. On

warmer days, I have to apply again in the afternoon, though.

 

I use Avon products sometimes. I like that they don't test on

animals, but yes, they do have animal products in some of their

stuff. If you go online to:

www.avon.com

you can order items and also see a list of ingredients for most of

their products.

 

As for the walk, I seem to remember in years past that they did not

give their proceeds to animal research methods, but I did not see

anything like that in the link to the current funding guidelines. I

think this is a difficult call, though, because of course we don't

want animals tested for any human purposes, but with the current

government regulations, new drugs MUST by law go through an animal

testing period before being tested on people. While I completely

disagree with that, it is the law and we do want to cure cancer.

Much of the money that gets raised does not go directly to research,

but also to charities that provide screenings to those who cannot

afford it, educational programs, and support programs to survivors.

I think that Avon's guidelines are probably the most broad in this

respect. It's definitely a personal call.

 

Like everything, I think you should buy completely vegan when

possible. When it's not, you do the best you can to make the most

difference.

 

Good luck!

Angela