Guest guest Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 I will be out of the office at the Animal Rights 2003 West Conference unitl Monday August 11. I will respond to emails when I return. Thank you, Kelcey Meadows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Hi, Does anyone have a natural environmentally friendly way of unclogging a sink drain? Thanks, Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Baking soda and vinegar, followed by hot water and vigorous use of a plunger--you know, the rubber cup and long-handled device. Unless there is a lost object in the elbow or p-trap, in which case you should remove that trap under the sink, and take out what you find. If that is clear, and the stoppage is down into the wall, using a wire snake going into the pipe in the wall is the way to proceed. And if you still can't get it, then it might be something more serious such as tree roots in the larger pipe outside the house and running to the main sewer line. Good luck! BobWretreey wrote: Hi, Does anyone have a natural environmentally friendly way of unclogging a sink drain? Thanks, Jen BAY AREA VEGETARIANS (BAV) is a community group for veggies to network, find support and promote veganism.Event Calendar, Charter, FAQ, Ultimate Guide http://www.bayareaveg.org Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Jan: Very interesting reading about your observations about the cooking class and the animal rights people. I have been on this journey towards better nutrition for 15 years. I started as a health enthusiast who ate mostly whole grains chicken and fish, etc., but my cholesterol was 240 and I had little energy. When someone told me about Dr. Dean Ornish's Program to reverse heart disease. I was skeptical at first but I had been recently humbled by life. So much so that I was open to listen (I had heard about Pritikin's work for years but I thought it was too extreme for me. LOL) So the journey to better has been a long slow process for me -- 14 months to prepare to do the Ornish program one day at a time, 3 more years to get comfortable with his program and then to refine it (improve it for me). I needed to listen to and explore the animal rights issue for years before I went completely vegan only 4 years ago. About faive year's ago I learned about and started going to raw foods potlucks. The first raw foodists to be recognized by me (LOL) were two people tabling at a Howard Lyman event. The raw foods people asked me to teach yoga at the Portland International Raw and Living Foods festival in 2001 and it was an amazing eye and mind opener. I have participated in every Portland festival since. In 2004 I also taught yoga, salsa and a " finding your voice " class at the Living Now Festival in upstate New York. I learned so much and got to spend time with amazing people from the East coast. The idea of people making the Quantum leap to mono-eating raw foodists from the standard American diet always amazed me and still does but I see that this support group helps people so much! Wow! I agree with you Jan about the vegetarian and animal rights groups. I send money when I can and I read about their progress in their newsletters but I don't attend their meetings anymore. I have my own problems to work on. If I can be a better human by following my path and dealing responsibly with my life challenges people who are ready with be drawn to ask me how I do it! Saturday when I heard a sick woman asking / CHALLENGING a raw foodists " WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR PROTEIN? " I stopped her my saying she was acting like the people she was complaining about earlier (people she was trying to help nutritionally). I just added " Fruit has enough protein. " I also suggested she join this support group and listen/read. (hope you don't mind...) I was introduced to 45 minute tape on NVC Non-violent-communication Saturday. I have heard about it and it would be helpful to know more to better apply the yama's and niyama's of yoga in my speech and thoughts but the body language and nutrition of these gentle people is lacking. Is anyone in the living foods arena doing similar work? Thank you Bill Milmoe Vancouver WA In a message dated 4/24/05 2:36:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, rawfood writes: > In rawfood , Jan <jantese@g...> wrote: > > On Apr 23, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Froggy wrote: > > > Well, another day raw. I passed the five month mark yesterday. > > > I sat through a vegan cooking class the other day... What a waste > of > > > time, effort and energy and downright silly. The food's fine as > it is, > > > raw. > > > I listened to a debate by animal activists the other day too. .. > I'm > > > not much interested in that, I just want to eat my raw plant food. > > > > Good for you, Froggy! It's always interesting to read about your > > progress and roaming activities. > > > > This one had me scratching my head, though: Why in the world would > you > > attend a vegan cooking class that you say is a waste of time, and > > listen to a debate in which you had no interest?? Did you mention > > anything about your raw food eating to these people? > > > > - Jan > > Thanks for reading, I do enjoy the support. I go to lots of > different things. I get something out of every event I attend. I > just go where I feel the tug strongest, I trust that as what I should > do next. I had never been to the location where the cooking class > was being held so I learned of a new Whole Foods to shop at if I need > it, plus I enjoyed my conversation with the vegan cooker. It was > interesting for me to see a cooking class once. It just settles in > my mind how stupid it is. All that grinding and mashing and the > heavy utensils, so much work for no purpose as I see it. I didn't > let on that I was raw though even to a vegan cousin, wouldn't want > them to think that they're doing anything wrong. I just turned down > the meal at the end. But it was good for me to go once, I wouldn't > go again. But, of course, I'm somewhat interested in what our > vegetarian cousins are doing, it can be an interesting social > outlet. I'll go to their potlucks or restaurant gatherings on > occasion and eat raw. > > I didn't know what the debate would be about until I went. When I > hear animal rights, I think about not eating animals (a pretty good > right from the animal's viewpoint I would think). It turned out that > they mentioned vegetarianism in the beginning but then went on > talking about animal rights as far as scientists using them for > experiments, I left when I got too bored. But here too, I have an > interest in these sister affiliations like animal rights. I > certainly wouldn't rush back to hear more about it knowing what > animal activists basically do. > > I don't mention my raw food eating to hardly anyone. No one would > get it, and I don't much feel like explaining it. Plus, I'd rather > be in a place where I'm not concerned about food at all. I don't > even want it to be an issue for me. > > How old do you think I'll be when this world is ready to make meat > eating illegal? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 I think you meant me, not Jan. Tabling, what's that? that psychic thing of table tipping. It is a leap to mono-eating raw foodists from the standard American diet, but easy if seen in the right light. That's all I'm expecting out of this, is that if people are drawn to how I eat, I'll talk to them about it, but not much sense in trying to advocate it. I hope fruit has all the protein I need. rawfood , wMilmoe@a... wrote: > > Jan: > > Very interesting reading about your observations about the cooking class and > the animal rights people. I have been on this journey towards better > nutrition for 15 years. I started as a health enthusiast who ate mostly whole grains > chicken and fish, etc., but my cholesterol was 240 and I had little energy. > When someone told me about Dr. Dean Ornish's Program to reverse heart disease. > I was skeptical at first but I had been recently humbled by life. So much so > that I was open to listen (I had heard about Pritikin's work for years but I > thought it was too extreme for me. LOL) > > So the journey to better has been a long slow process for me -- 14 months to > prepare to do the Ornish program one day at a time, 3 more years to get > comfortable with his program and then to refine it (improve it for me). I needed to > listen to and explore the animal rights issue for years before I went > completely vegan only 4 years ago. About faive year's ago I learned about and started > going to raw foods potlucks. The first raw foodists to be recognized by me > (LOL) were two people tabling at a Howard Lyman event. > > The raw foods people asked me to teach yoga at the Portland International Raw > and Living Foods festival in 2001 and it was an amazing eye and mind opener. > I have participated in every Portland festival since. In 2004 I also taught > yoga, salsa and a " finding your voice " class at the Living Now Festival in > upstate New York. I learned so much and got to spend time with amazing people > from the East coast. > > The idea of people making the Quantum leap to mono-eating raw foodists from > the standard American diet always amazed me and still does but I see that this > support group helps people so much! Wow! > > I agree with you Jan about the vegetarian and animal rights groups. I send > money when I can and I read about their progress in their newsletters but I > don't attend their meetings anymore. I have my own problems to work on. If I > can be a better human by following my path and dealing responsibly with my life > challenges people who are ready with be drawn to ask me how I do it! > > Saturday when I heard a sick woman asking / CHALLENGING a raw foodists " WHERE > DO YOU GET YOUR PROTEIN? " I stopped her my saying she was acting like the > people she was complaining about earlier (people she was trying to help > nutritionally). I just added " Fruit has enough protein. " I also suggested she join > this support group and listen/read. (hope you don't mind...) > > I was introduced to 45 minute tape on NVC Non-violent-communication Saturday. > I have heard about it and it would be helpful to know more to better apply > the yama's and niyama's of yoga in my speech and thoughts but the body language > and nutrition of these gentle people is lacking. Is anyone in the living > foods arena doing similar work? > > Thank you > > Bill Milmoe > Vancouver WA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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