Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 I have been asked to send this out all over the internet. I posted this to a few groups and got a huge response!! Please share as you see fit. This is about a visit to PetLand in South Point, OH on Nov. 1, 2006.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was on my way to WV to do some computer work for my dad and decided to stop and kill some time and stretch my legs. Well, instead of going to the WalMart close by, I figured I'd go take a look inside the PetLand I spotted close by..... Well, I walked in to a very small but tidy store, crammed with all sorts of pet supplies and cages and tanks to sell the new pet owners. I made my way back to the animals along the back wall of the store. Oh, the puppies they had there were just too numerous to even try to name all the breeds--I do recall Peke, Pug, Dachsie, English Springer Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel, Greyhound, JRT, Poodles, Mini Schnauzer and Chihuahuas. There were many more too, even a French Bulldog!! As I made my way down the length of the puppy display, simply disgusted by the diahrreah the pups had, some were even lethargic, others were acting like they had been given a stimulant as they bounced all over their cage, I hear a young man "May I help you with the Puppies?" I turned to look at this fresh-faced kid, and shook my head, "No, not with THESE puppies." He came closer and said "We have the finest selection of pups around this area and they are all from excellent breeders from the Mid-West." I paused a second, "Oh, is that so??" "We have our pups vet checked and do not accept them unless they are in perfect health", this young man boasted. I said "Really? So what is this stuff I keep seeing linking PetLand and Puppy Mills all over the internet?" He pauses a second to think, "Must be a rumor, we get our dogs from private breeders who take pride in their litters." At this point I was ready to just smack this kid for being stupid and gullible. I nearly died laughing at this crap too but it was too sad to be laughed off. "So, are your pups AKC registered or what?", I asked with honest sincerity. "Oh, our boss does not think AKC is the highest standard of the breeds so he prefers to take only CKC, ACA and a couple other registeries. As you can see, we have excellent pups here", this young man goes on with his sales pitch. At this point, I had heard enough trash talk and that was when I let him have the WHOLE story on these pups and their origins. "Do you honestly expect me to believe that AKC is the 'lowgrade' registery? Let me introduce myself before I continue. My name is Joanie Stambaugh, from McDermott, OH, and I am a dog rescuer specializing in small seniors, PUPPY MILL Dogs and special needs dogs. My rescue is Joanie's Lil Senior K9 Sanctuary and Placement and I currently have 4 Mill dogs in my house that came from some of those illustrious Mid-Western Breeders you speak so highly of. Let me tell you, if you have NOT seen a mill dog, I can tell you all about them. I have had them come in to me with NO social skills at all, matted so badly you couldn't tell one end from the other, so sick they could barely stand, no teeth or lower jaws from the lack of proper care and the females being bred so much that their little bodies re-absorb their jaw-bone in order to have calcium for milk. Oh, I can tell you about a friend of mine in NE who gets them and some have their faces broken up from being kicked and brutally beaten by those wonderful breeders you speak so highly of. I can go right on with a list of things that would make you want to vomit but I know EXACTLY where these pups were born--Puppy Mills in the Mid-West!!! If you decide you want to learn more about those hell-holes, I will be more than happy to introduce you to my poor Mill Survivors and show you website after website with pics of these places and the ACTUAL conditions these pups came out of." This kid is soooo convinced of the good work these Millers do that he tells me that their pups are the best in the country. They are genetically sound and have NO health problems. He even says they were made to watch a video on the horrors of a real puppy mill but it wasn't so bad..... I could have went through the roof!! I stood there a second and then looked him in the eye...."Have you seen these places yourself? Have you seen the actual dogs that come out of those mills? What they send you here are the cleaned up versions of the mill dogs. I recommend a site for you, NoPuppyMills.com or better yet, go to the HSUS or PETA sites and type in Puppy Mills for a list of sites and info on these "doggy concentration camps" and have a look for yourself. Also, all of the puppy purchasers who have paid anywhere from $600 to $1500 for a pup from PetLand and then spent thousands more to save the dog's life, tell them how sound and healthy their pups were too. I have seen the reports, read their statements and in NO way do I condone selling of Puppy Mill Pups to the unsuspecting public." At this point, the kid is so blown away by the info he is hearing that he asks me if I am for real. My response--You better believe it!! At that point, I decided I had said more than enough. This kid had a look on his face that said plenty. I paused before heading out the door, "If you think I am joking, please do check out the info on those sites I mentioned or Google Puppy Mills and see what you find..... Oh, and see, I was right, you can't help me with THOSE pups....." This happened Nov. 1, 2006 in South Point, OH at PetLand. Yours in rescue, Joanie Stambaugh McDermott, OH Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 But you are Joan, so how could you have been asked to send this all over the internet when you are the one who composed the message? I'm not being a smart a**... I'm just asking a logical question. the_hardluck_hounds the_hardluck_hounds Cc: juliatat; susiecar; ohiospca; remember; animalcrisisteam; carol.johnson; katie.walter; anteaterken; dotyvb; ebcjm; baspi; linda.furness1; fuzzyfacerescue ; jbishop_1; 1byrdhouse Thu, 2 Nov 2006 6:46 PM OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... I have been asked to send this out all over the internet. I posted this to a few groups and got a huge response!! Please share as you see fit. This is about a visit to PetLand in South Point, OH on Nov. 1, 2006.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was on my way to WV to do some computer work for my dad and decided to stop and kill some time and stretch my legs. Well, instead of going to the WalMart close by, I figured I'd go take a look inside the PetLand I spotted close by..... Well, I walked in to a very small but tidy store, crammed with all sorts of pet supplies and cages and tanks to sell the new pet owners. I made my way back to the animals along the back wall of the store. Oh, the puppies they had there were just too numerous to even try to name all the breeds--I do recall Peke, Pug, Dachsie, English Springer Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel, Greyhound, JRT, Poodles, Mini Schnauzer and Chihuahuas. There were many more too, even a French Bulldog!! As I made my way down the length of the puppy display, simply disgusted by the diahrreah the pups had, some were even lethargic, others were acting like they had been given a stimulant as they bounced all over their cage, I hear a young man "May I help you with the Puppies?" I turned to look at this fresh-faced kid, and shook my head, "No, not with THESE puppies." He came closer and said "We have the finest selection of pups around this area and they are all from excellent breeders from the Mid-West." I paused a second, "Oh, is that so??" "We have our pups vet checked and do not accept them unless they are in perfect health", this young man boasted. I said "Really? So what is this stuff I keep seeing linking PetLand and Puppy Mills all over the internet?" He pauses a second to think, "Must be a rumor, we get our dogs from private breeders who take pride in their litters." At this point I was ready to just smack this kid for being stupid and gullible. I nearly died laughing at this crap too but it was too sad to be laughed off. "So, are your pups AKC registered or what?", I asked with honest sincerity. "Oh, our boss does not think AKC is the highest standard of the breeds so he prefers to take only CKC, ACA and a couple other registeries. As you can see, we have excellent pups here", this young man goes on with his sales pitch. At this point, I had heard enough trash talk and that was when I let him have the WHOLE story on these pups and their origins. "Do you honestly expect me to believe that AKC is the 'lowgrade' registery? Let me introduce myself before I continue. My name is Joanie Stambaugh, from McDermott, OH, and I am a dog rescuer specializing in small seniors, PUPPY MILL Dogs and special needs dogs. My rescue is Joanie's Lil Senior K9 Sanctuary and Placement and I currently have 4 Mill dogs in my house that came from some of those illustrious Mid-Western Breeders you speak so highly of. Let me tell you, if you have NOT seen a mill dog, I can tell you all about them. I have had them come in to me with NO social skills at all, matted so badly you couldn't tell one end from the other, so sick they could barely stand, no teeth or lower jaws from the lack of proper care and the females being bred so much that their little bodies re-absorb their jaw-bone in order to have calcium for milk. Oh, I can tell you about a friend of mine in NE who gets them and some have their faces broken up from being kicked and brutally beaten by those wonderful breeders you speak so highly of. I can go right on with a list of things that would make you want to vomit but I know EXACTLY where these pups were born--Puppy Mills in the Mid-West!!! If you decide you want to learn more about those hell-holes, I will be more than happy to introduce you to my poor Mill Survivors and show you website after website with pics of these places and the ACTUAL conditions these pups came out of." This kid is soooo convinced of the good work these Millers do that he tells me that their pups are the best in the country. They are genetically sound and have NO health problems. He even says they were made to watch a video on the horrors of a real puppy mill but it wasn't so bad..... I could have went through the roof!! I stood there a second and then looked him in the eye...."Have you seen these places yourself? Have you seen the actual dogs that come out of those mills? What they send you here are the cleaned up versions of the mill dogs. I recommend a site for you, NoPuppyMills.com or better yet, go to the HSUS or PETA sites and type in Puppy Mills for a list of sites and info on these "doggy concentration camps" and have a look for yourself. Also, all of the puppy purchasers who have paid anywhere from $600 to $1500 for a pup from PetLand and then spent thousands more to save the dog's life, tell them how sound and healthy their pups were too. I have seen the reports, read their statements and in NO way do I condone selling of Puppy Mill Pups to the unsuspecting public." At this point, the kid is so blown away by the info he is hearing that he asks me if I am for real. My response--You better believe it!! At that point, I decided I had said more than enough. This kid had a look on his face that said plenty. I paused before heading out the door, "If you think I am joking, please do check out the info on those sites I mentioned or Google Puppy Mills and see what you find..... Oh, and see, I was right, you can't help me with THOSE pups....." This happened Nov. 1, 2006 in South Point, OH at PetLand. Yours in rescue, Joanie Stambaugh McDermott, OH Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Maybe she sent it to someone who thought others should get it and asked her to spread the word. , nonhumanavenger wrote: > > But you are Joan, so how could you have been asked to send this all over the internet when you are the one who composed the message? I'm not being a smart a**... I'm just asking a logical question. > > > the_hardluck_hounds > the_hardluck_hounds > Cc: juliatat; susiecar; ohiospca; remember; animalcrisisteam; carol.johnson; katie.walter; anteaterken; dotyvb; ebcjm; baspi; linda.furness1; fuzzyfacerescue ; jbishop_1; 1byrdhouse > Thu, 2 Nov 2006 6:46 PM > OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... > > I have been asked to send this out all over the internet. I posted this to a few groups and got a huge response!! Please share as you see fit. This is about a visit to PetLand in South Point, OH on Nov. 1, 2006.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was on my way to WV to do some computer work for my dad and decided to stop and kill some time and stretch my legs. Well, instead of going to the WalMart close by, I figured I'd go take a look inside the PetLand I spotted close by..... Well, I walked in to a very small but tidy store, crammed with all sorts of pet supplies and cages and tanks to sell the new pet owners. I made my way back to the animals along the back wall of the store. Oh, the puppies they had there were just too numerous to even try to name all the breeds-- I do recall Peke, Pug, Dachsie, English Springer Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel, Greyhound, JRT, Poodles, Mini Schnauzer and Chihuahuas. There were many more too, even a French Bulldog!! As I made my way down the length of the puppy display, simply disgusted by the diahrreah the pups had, some were even lethargic, others were acting like they had been given a stimulant as they bounced all over their cage, I hear a young man " May I help you with the Puppies? " I turned to look at this fresh-faced kid, and shook my head, " No, not with THESE puppies. " He came closer and said " We have the finest selection of pups around this area and they are all from excellent breeders from the Mid-West. " I paused a second, " Oh, is that so?? " " We have our pups vet checked and do not accept them unless they are in perfect health " , this young man boasted. I said " Really? So what is this stuff I keep seeing linking PetLand and Puppy Mills all over the internet? " He pauses a second to think, " Must be a rumor, we get our dogs from private breeders who take pride in their litters. " At this point I was ready to just smack this kid for being stupid and gullible. I nearly died laughing at this crap too but it was too sad to be laughed off. " So, are your pups AKC registered or what? " , I asked with honest sincerity. " Oh, our boss does not think AKC is the highest standard of the breeds so he prefers to take only CKC, ACA and a couple other registeries. As you can see, we have excellent pups here " , this young man goes on with his sales pitch. At this point, I had heard enough trash talk and that was when I let him have the WHOLE story on these pups and their origins. " Do you honestly expect me to believe that AKC is the 'lowgrade' registery? Let me introduce myself before I continue. My name is Joanie Stambaugh, from McDermott, OH, and I am a dog rescuer specializing in small seniors, PUPPY MILL Dogs and special needs dogs. My rescue is Joanie's Lil Senior K9 Sanctuary and Placement and I currently have 4 Mill dogs in my house that came from some of those illustrious Mid-Western Breeders you speak so highly of. Let me tell you, if you have NOT seen a mill dog, I can tell you all about them. I have had them come in to me with NO social skills at all, matted so badly you couldn't tell one end from the other, so sick they could barely stand, no teeth or lower jaws from the lack of proper care and the females being bred so much that their little bodies re-absorb their jaw-bone in order to have calcium for milk. Oh, I can tell you about a friend of mine in NE who gets them and some have their faces broken up from being kicked and brutally beaten by those wonderful breeders you speak so highly of. I can go right on with a list of things that would make you want to vomit but I know EXACTLY where these pups were born--Puppy Mills in the Mid-West!!! If you decide you want to learn more about those hell-holes, I will be more than happy to introduce you to my poor Mill Survivors and show you website after website with pics of these places and the ACTUAL conditions these pups came out of. " This kid is soooo convinced of the good work these Millers do that he tells me that their pups are the best in the country. They are genetically sound and have NO health problems. He even says they were made to watch a video on the horrors of a real puppy mill but it wasn't so bad..... I could have went through the roof!! I stood there a second and then looked him in the eye.... " Have you seen these places yourself? Have you seen the actual dogs that come out of those mills? What they send you here are the cleaned up versions of the mill dogs. I recommend a site for you, NoPuppyMills.com or better yet, go to the HSUS or PETA sites and type in Puppy Mills for a list of sites and info on these " doggy concentration camps " and have a look for yourself. Also, all of the puppy purchasers who have paid anywhere from $600 to $1500 for a pup from PetLand and then spent thousands more to save the dog's life, tell them how sound and healthy their pups were too. I have seen the reports, read their statements and in NO way do I condone selling of Puppy Mill Pups to the unsuspecting public. " At this point, the kid is so blown away by the info he is hearing that he asks me if I am for real. My response- -You better believe it!! At that point, I decided I had said more than enough. This kid had a look on his face that said plenty. I paused before heading out the door, " If you think I am joking, please do check out the info on those sites I mentioned or Google Puppy Mills and see what you find..... Oh, and see, I was right, you can't help me with THOSE pups..... " This happened Nov. 1, 2006 in South Point, OH at PetLand. Yours in rescue, Joanie Stambaugh McDermott, OH > ___________________ ___ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 That is exactly what happened... Cynthia is not being a smarta$$ she is being a dumbA$$ , asking illogical questions. Stickneys Toy Breed Retirement Sanctuary-Cortland, Nebraska Rescue is about the good, the bad, the ugly , the old, the deaf, and the blind. Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. Those who can, do. Those who can't, bully. DO NOT forward, cross-post, or copy this post, without written permission! Stop Nebraska Puppymills: www.petitiononline.com/9894043/petition.html www.maryshouse.us/Nebraska_Puppymills.htm Troll trouble: www.webpetitions.com/cgi-bin/print_petition.cgi?99498685 Visit us on-line www.maryshouse.us/ , www.petfinder.com/shelters/NE28.html www.cafepress.com/theoldfartsshop , http://marysdoghouse.blogspot.com/ Old Dog Health: ODHAN/ Learn to eat better yourself http://health.wholefood/ Nebraska Dog Rescue: NebraskaDogRescuers/ I-80 transport I80-Transport/ I-29 transport I29-Transport On Behalf Of Nipshit_is_a_dipshit Saturday, November 04, 2006 11:23 AM Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... Maybe she sent it to someone who thought others should get it and asked her to spread the word. , nonhumanavenger wrote: > > But you are Joan, so how could you have been asked to send this all over the internet when you are the one who composed the message? I'm not being a smart a**... I'm just asking a logical question. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Well, let me see, Honey, I sent this to a bunch of different people and to a select few groups. I got responses from many who do rescue (and we know you do not) and some work hard to save Mill Dogs (again, we know you do not) and THEY asked me to send this all over. IF you were concerned with rescue and stopping the pet store cruelty chain, you would be doing the same thing as the rest of us--taking the time to actually ask questions and then tell these poor dumb kids who work in these pet stores the REAL truth about their employer and be able to back it up. I have been asked by several people if they could use this on their websites and include my name and the name of my rescue (since I do rescue, and you do not). Now, I have better things to do than this petty exchange with you so run along and do something constructive. Joanie , nonhumanavenger wrote: > > But you are Joan, so how could you have been asked to send this all over the internet when you are the one who composed the message? I'm not being a smart a**... I'm just asking a logical question. > > > the_hardluck_hounds > the_hardluck_hounds > Cc: juliatat; susiecar; ohiospca; remember; animalcrisisteam; carol.johnson; katie.walter; anteaterken; dotyvb; ebcjm; baspi; linda.furness1; fuzzyfacerescue ; jbishop_1; 1byrdhouse > Thu, 2 Nov 2006 6:46 PM > OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... > > I have been asked to send this out all over the internet. I posted this to a few groups and got a huge response!! Please share as you see fit. This is about a visit to PetLand in South Point, OH on Nov. 1, 2006.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was on my way to WV to do some computer work for my dad and decided to stop and kill some time and stretch my legs. Well, instead of going to the WalMart close by, I figured I'd go take a look inside the PetLand I spotted close by..... Well, I walked in to a very small but tidy store, crammed with all sorts of pet supplies and cages and tanks to sell the new pet owners. I made my way back to the animals along the back wall of the store. Oh, the puppies they had there were just too numerous to even try to name all the breeds-- I do recall Peke, Pug, Dachsie, English Springer Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel, Greyhound, JRT, Poodles, Mini Schnauzer and Chihuahuas. There were many more too, even a French Bulldog!! As I made my way down the length of the puppy display, simply disgusted by the diahrreah the pups had, some were even lethargic, others were acting like they had been given a stimulant as they bounced all over their cage, I hear a young man " May I help you with the Puppies? " I turned to look at this fresh-faced kid, and shook my head, " No, not with THESE puppies. " He came closer and said " We have the finest selection of pups around this area and they are all from excellent breeders from the Mid-West. " I paused a second, " Oh, is that so?? " " We have our pups vet checked and do not accept them unless they are in perfect health " , this young man boasted. I said " Really? So what is this stuff I keep seeing linking PetLand and Puppy Mills all over the internet? " He pauses a second to think, " Must be a rumor, we get our dogs from private breeders who take pride in their litters. " At this point I was ready to just smack this kid for being stupid and gullible. I nearly died laughing at this crap too but it was too sad to be laughed off. " So, are your pups AKC registered or what? " , I asked with honest sincerity. " Oh, our boss does not think AKC is the highest standard of the breeds so he prefers to take only CKC, ACA and a couple other registeries. As you can see, we have excellent pups here " , this young man goes on with his sales pitch. At this point, I had heard enough trash talk and that was when I let him have the WHOLE story on these pups and their origins. " Do you honestly expect me to believe that AKC is the 'lowgrade' registery? Let me introduce myself before I continue. My name is Joanie Stambaugh, from McDermott, OH, and I am a dog rescuer specializing in small seniors, PUPPY MILL Dogs and special needs dogs. My rescue is Joanie's Lil Senior K9 Sanctuary and Placement and I currently have 4 Mill dogs in my house that came from some of those illustrious Mid-Western Breeders you speak so highly of. Let me tell you, if you have NOT seen a mill dog, I can tell you all about them. I have had them come in to me with NO social skills at all, matted so badly you couldn't tell one end from the other, so sick they could barely stand, no teeth or lower jaws from the lack of proper care and the females being bred so much that their little bodies re-absorb their jaw-bone in order to have calcium for milk. Oh, I can tell you about a friend of mine in NE who gets them and some have their faces broken up from being kicked and brutally beaten by those wonderful breeders you speak so highly of. I can go right on with a list of things that would make you want to vomit but I know EXACTLY where these pups were born--Puppy Mills in the Mid-West!!! If you decide you want to learn more about those hell-holes, I will be more than happy to introduce you to my poor Mill Survivors and show you website after website with pics of these places and the ACTUAL conditions these pups came out of. " This kid is soooo convinced of the good work these Millers do that he tells me that their pups are the best in the country. They are genetically sound and have NO health problems. He even says they were made to watch a video on the horrors of a real puppy mill but it wasn't so bad..... I could have went through the roof!! I stood there a second and then looked him in the eye.... " Have you seen these places yourself? Have you seen the actual dogs that come out of those mills? What they send you here are the cleaned up versions of the mill dogs. I recommend a site for you, NoPuppyMills.com or better yet, go to the HSUS or PETA sites and type in Puppy Mills for a list of sites and info on these " doggy concentration camps " and have a look for yourself. Also, all of the puppy purchasers who have paid anywhere from $600 to $1500 for a pup from PetLand and then spent thousands more to save the dog's life, tell them how sound and healthy their pups were too. I have seen the reports, read their statements and in NO way do I condone selling of Puppy Mill Pups to the unsuspecting public. " At this point, the kid is so blown away by the info he is hearing that he asks me if I am for real. My response- -You better believe it!! At that point, I decided I had said more than enough. This kid had a look on his face that said plenty. I paused before heading out the door, " If you think I am joking, please do check out the info on those sites I mentioned or Google Puppy Mills and see what you find..... Oh, and see, I was right, you can't help me with THOSE pups..... " This happened Nov. 1, 2006 in South Point, OH at PetLand. Yours in rescue, Joanie Stambaugh McDermott, OH > ___________________ ___ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Thank You!!! This is just what happened.... Unlike some people, when I post something informational or useful, others asked that it be passed on to those who can use it or can send it to others who can... Joanie , " Nipshit_is_a_dipshit " <howieblow wrote: > > Maybe she sent it to someone who thought others should get it and > asked her to spread the word. > > , nonhumanavenger@ wrote: > > > > But you are Joan, so how could you have been asked to send this > all over the internet when you are the one who composed the message? > I'm not being a smart a**... I'm just asking a logical question. > > > > > > the_hardluck_hounds@ > > the_hardluck_hounds@ > > Cc: juliatat@; susiecar@; ohiospca@; remember@; > animalcrisisteam@; carol.johnson@; katie.walter@; > anteaterken@; dotyvb@; ebcjm@; baspi@; > linda.furness1@; fuzzyfacerescue ; jbishop_1@; > 1byrdhouse@ > > Thu, 2 Nov 2006 6:46 PM > > OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to > kill some time...... > > > > I have been asked to send this out all over the internet. I > posted this to a few groups and got a huge response!! Please share > as you see fit. This is about a visit to PetLand in South Point, OH > on Nov. 1, 2006.... > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I > was on my way to WV to do some computer work for my dad and decided > to stop and kill some time and stretch my legs. Well, instead of > going to the WalMart close by, I figured I'd go take a look inside > the PetLand I spotted close by..... Well, I walked in to a very > small but tidy store, crammed with all sorts of pet supplies and > cages and tanks to sell the new pet owners. I made my way back to > the animals along the back wall of the store. Oh, the puppies they > had there were just too numerous to even try to name all the breeds-- > I do recall Peke, Pug, Dachsie, English Springer Spaniel, Cocker > Spaniel, Greyhound, JRT, Poodles, Mini Schnauzer and Chihuahuas. > There were many more too, even a French Bulldog!! As I made my way > down the length of the puppy display, simply disgusted by the > diahrreah the pups had, some were even lethargic, others were acting > like they had been given a stimulant as they bounced all over their > cage, I hear a young man " May I help you with the Puppies? " I turned > to look at this fresh-faced kid, and shook my head, " No, not with > THESE puppies. " He came closer and said " We have the finest > selection of pups around this area and they are all from excellent > breeders from the Mid-West. " I paused a second, " Oh, is that > so?? " " We have our pups vet checked and do not accept them unless > they are in perfect health " , this young man boasted. I said " Really? > So what is this stuff I keep seeing linking PetLand and Puppy Mills > all over the internet? " He pauses a second to think, " Must be a > rumor, we get our dogs from private breeders who take pride in their > litters. " At this point I was ready to just smack this kid for > being stupid and gullible. I nearly died laughing at this crap too > but it was too sad to be laughed off. " So, are your pups AKC > registered or what? " , I asked with honest sincerity. " Oh, our boss > does not think AKC is the highest standard of the breeds so he > prefers to take only CKC, ACA and a couple other registeries. As you > can see, we have excellent pups here " , this young man goes on with > his sales pitch. At this point, I had heard enough trash talk and > that was when I let him have the WHOLE story on these pups and their > origins. " Do you honestly expect me to believe that AKC is > the 'lowgrade' registery? Let me introduce myself before I continue. > My name is Joanie Stambaugh, from McDermott, OH, and I am a dog > rescuer specializing in small seniors, PUPPY MILL Dogs and special > needs dogs. My rescue is Joanie's Lil Senior K9 Sanctuary and > Placement and I currently have 4 Mill dogs in my house that came > from some of those illustrious Mid-Western Breeders you speak so > highly of. Let me tell you, if you have NOT seen a mill dog, I can > tell you all about them. I have had them come in to me with NO > social skills at all, matted so badly you couldn't tell one end from > the other, so sick they could barely stand, no teeth or lower jaws > from the lack of proper care and the females being bred so much that > their little bodies re-absorb their jaw-bone in order to have > calcium for milk. Oh, I can tell you about a friend of mine in NE > who gets them and some have their faces broken up from being kicked > and brutally beaten by those wonderful breeders you speak so highly > of. I can go right on with a list of things that would make you want > to vomit but I know EXACTLY where these pups were born--Puppy Mills > in the Mid-West!!! If you decide you want to learn more about those > hell-holes, I will be more than happy to introduce you to my poor > Mill Survivors and show you website after website with pics of these > places and the ACTUAL conditions these pups came out of. " This > kid is soooo convinced of the good work these Millers do that he > tells me that their pups are the best in the country. They are > genetically sound and have NO health problems. He even says they > were made to watch a video on the horrors of a real puppy mill but > it wasn't so bad..... I could have went through the roof!! I stood > there a second and then looked him in the eye.... " Have you seen > these places yourself? Have you seen the actual dogs that come out > of those mills? What they send you here are the cleaned up versions > of the mill dogs. I recommend a site for you, NoPuppyMills.com or > better yet, go to the HSUS or PETA sites and type in Puppy Mills for > a list of sites and info on these " doggy concentration camps " and > have a look for yourself. Also, all of the puppy purchasers who have > paid anywhere from $600 to $1500 for a pup from PetLand and then > spent thousands more to save the dog's life, tell them how sound and > healthy their pups were too. I have seen the reports, read their > statements and in NO way do I condone selling of Puppy Mill Pups to > the unsuspecting public. " At this point, the kid is so blown away by > the info he is hearing that he asks me if I am for real. My response- > -You better believe it!! At that point, I decided I had said more > than enough. This kid had a look on his face that said plenty. I > paused before heading out the door, " If you think I am joking, > please do check out the info on those sites I mentioned or Google > Puppy Mills and see what you find..... Oh, and see, I was right, you > can't help me with THOSE pups..... " This happened Nov. 1, 2006 in > South Point, OH at PetLand. Yours in rescue, Joanie Stambaugh > McDermott, OH > > > ___________________ > ___ > > Check out the new AOL. 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Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Don't worry about it, Mary, even she needs a hobby..... I don't let people like her bother me, I just go on about rescue and ignore their assinine responses because they do nothing but sound like idiots. Just let this subject drop now, OK? We have better things to do with out time than defend ourselves against people who have no life and nothing to do with their time. Joanie , <theluckyone wrote: > > > That is exactly what happened... > Cynthia is not being a smarta$$ she is being a dumbA$$ , asking illogical > questions. > > > Stickneys Toy Breed Retirement Sanctuary-Cortland, Nebraska > Rescue is about the good, the bad, the ugly , the old, the deaf, and the > blind. > Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter > and those who matter don't mind. > Those who can, do. Those who can't, bully. > DO NOT forward, cross-post, or copy this post, without written permission! > Stop Nebraska Puppymills: www.petitiononline.com/9894043/petition.html > www.maryshouse.us/Nebraska_Puppymills.htm > Troll trouble: www.webpetitions.com/cgi-bin/print_petition.cgi? 99498685 > Visit us on-line www.maryshouse.us/ , www.petfinder.com/shelters/NE28.html > www.cafepress.com/theoldfartsshop , http://marysdoghouse.blogspot.com/ > Old Dog Health: ODHAN/ > Learn to eat better yourself http://health.wholefood/ > Nebraska Dog Rescue: NebraskaDogRescuers/ > I-80 transport I80-Transport/ > I-29 transport I29-Transport > > > > On Behalf Of Nipshit_is_a_dipshit > Saturday, November 04, 2006 11:23 AM > > Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some > time...... > > Maybe she sent it to someone who thought others should get it and asked her > to spread the word. > > , nonhumanavenger@ wrote: > > > > But you are Joan, so how could you have been asked to send this > all over the internet when you are the one who composed the message? > I'm not being a smart a**... I'm just asking a logical question. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 NO, I really was just asking a question. I apologize to the group if it sounded like I was trying to start trouble. The message appeared to me to be composed in a manner that looked like it was written by the same person who had visited the establishment (Petland). Therefore, I was curious about this. That's all it was. Thanks for letting me know what's going on. the_hardluck_hounds Sun, 5 Nov 2006 8:04 PM Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... Don't worry about it, Mary, even she needs a hobby..... I don't let people like her bother me, I just go on about rescue and ignore their assinine responses because they do nothing but sound like idiots. Just let this subject drop now, OK? We have better things to do with out time than defend ourselves against people who have no life and nothing to do with their time. Joanie , <theluckyone wrote: > > > That is exactly what happened... > Cynthia is not being a smarta$$ she is being a dumbA$$ , asking illogical > questions. > > > Stickneys Toy Breed Retirement Sanctuary-Cortland, Nebraska > Rescue is about the good, the bad, the ugly , the old, the deaf, and the > blind. > Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter > and those who matter don't mind. > Those who can, do. Those who can't, bully. > DO NOT forward, cross-post, or copy this post, without written permission! > Stop Nebraska Puppymills: www.petitiononline.com/9894043/petition.html > www.maryshouse.us/Nebraska_Puppymills.htm > Troll trouble: www.webpetitions.com/cgi-bin/print_petition.cgi? 99498685 > Visit us on-line www.maryshouse.us/ , www.petfinder.com/shelters/NE28.html > www.cafepress.com/theoldfartsshop , http://marysdoghouse.blogspot.com/ > Old Dog Health: ODHAN/ > Learn to eat better yourself http://health.wholefood/ > Nebraska Dog Rescue: NebraskaDogRescuers/ > I-80 transport I80-Transport/ > I-29 transport I29-Transport > > > > On Behalf Of Nipshit_is_a_dipshit > Saturday, November 04, 2006 11:23 AM > > Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some > time...... > > Maybe she sent it to someone who thought others should get it and asked her > to spread the word. > > , nonhumanavenger@ wrote: > > > > But you are Joan, so how could you have been asked to send this > all over the internet when you are the one who composed the message? > I'm not being a smart a**... I'm just asking a logical question. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 It was just a question. I apologize to the group if it didn't sound the way that I meant it. Actually, I do try to educate pet store employees. I use to be one years ago. No, I'm NOT a rescuer...not by the standards of you guys who do on line rescue, but I try to "rescue" in one way or another...saving homeless animals from death and life on the streets. I don't do "on line" rescue other than cross posting an alert here and there, but I do what I can. But that's irrelevant. If you need to think of me as not being a rescuer then fine. I was just asking a question and apologize if I worded it in a bad way that might offend the members. I've experienced the same thing (people getting the wrong impression based upon my posts), so I would never just assume one thing or the other, which is why I ask.. Thanks. the_hardluck_hounds Sun, 5 Nov 2006 7:59 PM Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... Well, let me see, Honey, I sent this to a bunch of different people and to a select few groups. I got responses from many who do rescue (and we know you do not) and some work hard to save Mill Dogs (again, we know you do not) and THEY asked me to send this all over. IF you were concerned with rescue and stopping the pet store cruelty chain, you would be doing the same thing as the rest of us--taking the time to actually ask questions and then tell these poor dumb kids who work in these pet stores the REAL truth about their employer and be able to back it up. I have been asked by several people if they could use this on their websites and include my name and the name of my rescue (since I do rescue, and you do not). Now, I have better things to do than this petty exchange with you so run along and do something constructive. Joanie , nonhumanavenger wrote: > > But you are Joan, so how could you have been asked to send this all over the internet when you are the one who composed the message? I'm not being a smart a**... I'm just asking a logical question. > > > the_hardluck_hounds > the_hardluck_hounds > Cc: juliatat; susiecar; ohiospca; remember; animalcrisisteam; carol.johnson; katie.walter; anteaterken; dotyvb; ebcjm; baspi; linda.furness1; fuzzyfacerescue ; jbishop_1; 1byrdhouse > Thu, 2 Nov 2006 6:46 PM > OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... > > I have been asked to send this out all over the internet. I posted this to a few groups and got a huge response!! Please share as you see fit. This is about a visit to PetLand in South Point, OH on Nov. 1, 2006.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was on my way to WV to do some computer work for my dad and decided to stop and kill some time and stretch my legs. Well, instead of going to the WalMart close by, I figured I'd go take a look inside the PetLand I spotted close by..... Well, I walked in to a very small but tidy store, crammed with all sorts of pet supplies and cages and tanks to sell the new pet owners. I made my way back to the animals along the back wall of the store. Oh, the puppies they had there were just too numerous to even try to name all the breeds-- I do recall Peke, Pug, Dachsie, English Springer Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel, Greyhound, JRT, Poodles, Mini Schnauzer and Chihuahuas. There were many more too, even a French Bulldog!! As I made my way down the length of the puppy display, simply disgusted by the diahrreah the pups had, some were even lethargic, others were acting like they had been given a stimulant as they bounced all over their cage, I hear a young man "May I help you with the Puppies?" I turned to look at this fresh-faced kid, and shook my head, "No, not with THESE puppies." He came closer and said "We have the finest selection of pups around this area and they are all from excellent breeders from the Mid-West." I paused a second, "Oh, is that so??We have our pups vet checked and do not accept them unless they are in perfect health", this young man boasted. I said "Really? So what is this stuff I keep seeing linking PetLand and Puppy Mills all over the internet?" He pauses a second to think, "Must be a rumor, we get our dogs from private breeders who take pride in their litters." At this point I was ready to just smack this kid for being stupid and gullible. I nearly died laughing at this crap too but it was too sad to be laughed off. "So, are your pups AKC registered or what?", I asked with honest sincerity. "Oh, our boss does not think AKC is the highest standard of the breeds so he prefers to take only CKC, ACA and a couple other registeries. As you can see, we have excellent pups here", this young man goes on with his sales pitch. At this point, I had heard enough trash talk and that was when I let him have the WHOLE story on these pups and their origins. "Do you honestly expect me to believe that AKC is the 'lowgrade' registery? Let me introduce myself before I continue. My name is Joanie Stambaugh, from McDermott, OH, and I am a dog rescuer specializing in small seniors, PUPPY MILL Dogs and special needs dogs. My rescue is Joanie's Lil Senior K9 Sanctuary and Placement and I currently have 4 Mill dogs in my house that came from some of those illustrious Mid-Western Breeders you speak so highly of. Let me tell you, if you have NOT seen a mill dog, I can tell you all about them. I have had them come in to me with NO social skills at all, matted so badly you couldn't tell one end from the other, so sick they could barely stand, no teeth or lower jaws from the lack of proper care and the females being bred so much that their little bodies re-absorb their jaw-bone in order to have calcium for milk. Oh, I can tell you about a friend of mine in NE who gets them and some have their faces broken up from being kicked and brutally beaten by those wonderful breeders you speak so highly of. I can go right on with a list of things that would make you want to vomit but I know EXACTLY where these pups were born--Puppy Mills in the Mid-West!!! If you decide you want to learn more about those hell-holes, I will be more than happy to introduce you to my poor Mill Survivors and show you website after website with pics of these places and the ACTUAL conditions these pups came out of." This kid is soooo convinced of the good work these Millers do that he tells me that their pups are the best in the country. They are genetically sound and have NO health problems. He even says they were made to watch a video on the horrors of a real puppy mill but it wasn't so bad..... I could have went through the roof!! I stood there a second and then looked him in the eye...."Have you seen these places yourself? Have you seen the actual dogs that come out of those mills? What they send you here are the cleaned up versions of the mill dogs. I recommend a site for you, NoPuppyMills.com or better yet, go to the HSUS or PETA sites and type in Puppy Mills for a list of sites and info on these "doggy concentration camps" and have a look for yourself. Also, all of the puppy purchasers who have paid anywhere from $600 to $1500 for a pup from PetLand and then spent thousands more to save the dog's life, tell them how sound and healthy their pups were too. I have seen the reports, read their statements and in NO way do I condone selling of Puppy Mill Pups to the unsuspecting public." At this point, the kid is so blown away by the info he is hearing that he asks me if I am for real. My response- -You better believe it!! At that point, I decided I had said more than enough. This kid had a look on his face that said plenty. I paused before heading out the door, "If you think I am joking, please do check out the info on those sites I mentioned or Google Puppy Mills and see what you find..... Oh, and see, I was right, you can't help me with THOSE pups....." This happened Nov. 1, 2006 in South Point, OH at PetLand. Yours in rescue, Joanie Stambaugh McDermott, OH Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Even if I was indeed a "butt kisser", there is no one's "butt" here which I would need to kiss for any reason. I don't know anyone here...not that I know of. nonhumanavenger Sun, 5 Nov 2006 9:18 PM FW: Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... what a lying butt kisser you are ... Stickneys Toy Breed Retirement Sanctuary-Cortland, Nebraska Rescue is about the good, the bad, the ugly , the old, the deaf, and the blind. Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. Those who can, do. Those who can't, bully. DO NOT forward, cross-post, or copy this post, without written permission! On Behalf Of nonhumanavenger Sunday, November 05, 2006 7:57 PM Re: Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... NO, I really was just asking a question. I apologize to the group if it sounded like I was trying to start trouble. The message appeared to me to be composed in a manner that looked like it was written by the same person who had visited the establishment (Petland). Therefore, I was curious about this. That's all it was. Thanks for letting me know what's going on. the_hardluck_hounds Sun, 5 Nov 2006 8:04 PM Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... Don't worry about it, Mary, even she needs a hobby..... I don't let people like her bother me, I just go on about rescue and ignore their assinine responses because they do nothing but sound like idiots. Just let this subject drop now, OK? We have better things to do with out time than defend ourselves against people who have no life and nothing to do with their time. Joanie , <theluckyone wrote: > > > That is exactly what happened... > Cynthia is not being a smarta$$ she is being a dumbA$$ , asking illogical > questions. > > > Stickneys Toy Breed Retirement Sanctuary-Cortland, Nebraska > Rescue is about the good, the bad, the ugly , the old, the deaf, and the > blind. > Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter > and those who matter don't mind. > Those who can, do. Those who can't, bully. > DO NOT forward, cross-post, or copy this post, without written permission! > Stop Nebraska Puppymills: www.petitiononline.com/9894043/petition.html > www.maryshouse.us/Nebraska_Puppymills.htm > Troll trouble: www.webpetitions.com/cgi-bin/print_petition.cgi? 99498685 > Visit us on-line www.maryshouse.us/ , www.petfinder.com/shelters/NE28.html > www.cafepress.com/theoldfartsshop , http://marysdoghouse.blogspot.com/ > Old Dog Health: ODHAN/ > Learn to eat better yourself http://health.wholefood/ > Nebraska Dog Rescue: NebraskaDogRescuers/ > I-80 transport I80-Transport/ > I-29 transport I29-Transport > > > > On Behalf Of Nipshit_is_a_dipshit > Saturday, November 04, 2006 11:23 AM > > Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some > time...... > > Maybe she sent it to someone who thought others should get it and asked her > to spread the word. > > , nonhumanavenger@ wrote: > > > > But you are Joan, so how could you have been asked to send this > all over the internet when you are the one who composed the message? > I'm not being a smart a**... I'm just asking a logical question. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 thanks for posting my email to a group... bye Stickneys Toy Breed Retirement Sanctuary-Cortland, Nebraska Rescue is about the good, the bad, the ugly , the old, the deaf, and the blind. Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. Those who can, do. Those who can't, bully. DO NOT forward, cross-post, or copy this post, without written permission! On Behalf Of nonhumanavengerSent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... Even if I was indeed a "butt kisser", there is no one's "butt" here which I would need to kiss for any reason. I don't know anyone here...not that I know of. To: nonhumanavengerSent: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 9:18 PMFW: Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... what a lying butt kisser you are ... Stickneys Toy Breed Retirement Sanctuary-Cortland, Nebraska Rescue is about the good, the bad, the ugly , the old, the deaf, and the blind. Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. Those who can, do. Those who can't, bully. DO NOT forward, cross-post, or copy this post, without written permission! On Behalf Of nonhumanavengerSent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... NO, I really was just asking a question. I apologize to the group if it sounded like I was trying to start trouble. The message appeared to me to be composed in a manner that looked like it was written by the same person who had visited the establishment (Petland). Therefore, I was curious about this. That's all it was. Thanks for letting me know what's going on. the_hardluck_houndsTo: Sent: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 8:04 PM Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... Don't worry about it, Mary, even she needs a hobby.....I don't let people like her bother me, I just go on about rescue and ignore their assinine responses because they do nothing but sound like idiots.Just let this subject drop now, OK? We have better things to do with out time than defend ourselves against people who have no life and nothing to do with their time.Joanie , <theluckyone wrote:>> > That is exactly what happened... > Cynthia is not being a smarta$$ she is being a dumbA$$ , asking illogical> questions.> > > Stickneys Toy Breed Retirement Sanctuary-Cortland, Nebraska > Rescue is about the good, the bad, the ugly , the old, the deaf, and the> blind.> Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter> and those who matter don't mind. > Those who can, do. Those who can't, bully.> DO NOT forward, cross-post, or copy this post, without written permission! > Stop Nebraska Puppymills: www.petitiononline.com/9894043/petition.html> www.maryshouse.us/Nebraska_Puppymills.htm > Troll trouble: www.webpetitions.com/cgi-bin/print_petition.cgi?99498685> Visit us on-line www.maryshouse.us/ , www.petfinder.com/shelters/NE28.html > www.cafepress.com/theoldfartsshop , http://marysdoghouse.blogspot.com/> Old Dog Health: ODHAN/> Learn to eat better yourself http://health.wholefood/> Nebraska Dog Rescue: NebraskaDogRescuers/> I-80 transport I80-Transport/> I-29 transport I29-Transport> > > > On Behalf Of Nipshit_is_a_dipshit> Saturday, November 04, 2006 11:23 AM> > Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some> time......> > Maybe she sent it to someone who thought others should get it and asked her> to spread the word.> > , nonhumanavenger@ wrote:> >> > But you are Joan, so how could you have been asked to send this> all over the internet when you are the one who composed the message? > I'm not being a smart a**... I'm just asking a logical question. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 I'm sorry, what did I do? I recently changed email service providers, so I may have done something wrong. I'm sorry if I did. I'm using AOL now, which is a lot different than ... at least for ME since I'm so use to . Why did you say "bye"? Don't leave on my account. I'm sorry if I did something wrong. I know that you and I don't get along, but I don't want to disrupt this nice group. Truce in this group? theluckyone Sun, 5 Nov 2006 9:36 PM RE: Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... thanks for posting my email to a group... bye Stickneys Toy Breed Retirement Sanctuary-Cortland, Nebraska Rescue is about the good, the bad, the ugly , the old, the deaf, and the blind. Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. Those who can, do. Those who can't, bully. DO NOT forward, cross-post, or copy this post, without written permission! On Behalf Of nonhumanavenger (AT) animalrightsveganprincess (DOT) com Sunday, November 05, 2006 8:28 PM Re: Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... Even if I was indeed a "butt kisser", there is no one's "butt" here which I would need to kiss for any reason. I don't know anyone here...not that I know of. nonhumanavenger (AT) animalrightsveganprincess (DOT) com Sun, 5 Nov 2006 9:18 PM FW: Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... what a lying butt kisser you are ... Stickneys Toy Breed Retirement Sanctuary-Cortland, Nebraska Rescue is about the good, the bad, the ugly , the old, the deaf, and the blind. Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. Those who can, do. Those who can't, bully. DO NOT forward, cross-post, or copy this post, without written permission! On Behalf Of nonhumanavenger (AT) animalrightsveganprincess (DOT) com Sunday, November 05, 2006 7:57 PM Re: Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... NO, I really was just asking a question. I apologize to the group if it sounded like I was trying to start trouble. The message appeared to me to be composed in a manner that looked like it was written by the same person who had visited the establishment (Petland). Therefore, I was curious about this. That's all it was. Thanks for letting me know what's going on. the_hardluck_hounds Sun, 5 Nov 2006 8:04 PM Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... Don't worry about it, Mary, even she needs a hobby..... I don't let people like her bother me, I just go on about rescue and ignore their assinine responses because they do nothing but sound like idiots. Just let this subject drop now, OK? We have better things to do with out time than defend ourselves against people who have no life and nothing to do with their time. Joanie , <theluckyone wrote: > > > That is exactly what happened... > Cynthia is not being a smarta$$ she is being a dumbA$$ , asking illogical > questions. > > > Stickneys Toy Breed Retirement Sanctuary-Cortland, Nebraska > Rescue is about the good, the bad, the ugly , the old, the deaf, and the > blind. > Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter > and those who matter don't mind. > Those who can, do. Those who can't, bully. > DO NOT forward, cross-post, or copy this post, without written permission! > Stop Nebraska Puppymills: www.petitiononline.com/9894043/petition.html > www.maryshouse.us/Nebraska_Puppymills.htm > Troll trouble: www.webpetitions.com/cgi-bin/print_petition.cgi? 99498685 > Visit us on-line www.maryshouse.us/ , www.petfinder.com/shelters/NE28.html > www.cafepress.com/theoldfartsshop , http://marysdoghouse.blogspot.com/ > Old Dog Health: ODHAN/ > Learn to eat better yourself http://health.wholefood/ > Nebraska Dog Rescue: NebraskaDogRescuers/ > I-80 transport I80-Transport/ > I-29 transport I29-Transport > > > > On Behalf Of Nipshit_is_a_dipshit > Saturday, November 04, 2006 11:23 AM > > Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some > time...... > > Maybe she sent it to someone who thought others should get it and asked her > to spread the word. > > , nonhumanavenger@ wrote: > > > > But you are Joan, so how could you have been asked to send this > all over the internet when you are the one who composed the message? > I'm not being a smart a**... I'm just asking a logical question. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 What a sweet post. We need more people like you. You sound so mature for a teenager and maybe someday you can be a REAL rescuer. Myself? I just lurk and try to help out the best I can. If you need any advice just let us know. BTW, when trying to educate pet store employees try not to be so condescending. You may notice that many of them have rolled their eyes at you but that's just because of your age I'm sure. Good luck. , nonhumanavenger wrote: > > It was just a question. I apologize to the group if it didn't sound the way that I meant it. Actually, I do try to educate pet store employees. I use to be one years ago. No, I'm NOT a rescuer...not by the standards of you guys who do on line rescue, but I try to " rescue " in one way or another...saving homeless animals from death and life on the streets. I don't do " on line " rescue other than cross posting an alert here and there, but I do what I can. But that's irrelevant. If you need to think of me as not being a rescuer then fine. I was just asking a question and apologize if I worded it in a bad way that might offend the members. I've experienced the same thing (people getting the wrong impression based upon my posts), so I would never just assume one thing or the other, which is why I ask.. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Thanks for the advice. Didn't think I sounded condescending, but there's always room for improvement regardless. However I'm not a teenager. :-) howieblow Sun, 5 Nov 2006 10:55 PM Re: OT>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... What a sweet post. We need more people like you. You sound so mature for a teenager and maybe someday you can be a REAL rescuer. Myself? I just lurk and try to help out the best I can. If you need any advice just let us know. BTW, when trying to educate pet store employees try not to be so condescending. You may notice that many of them have rolled their eyes at you but that's just because of your age I'm sure. Good luck. , nonhumanavenger wrote: > > It was just a question. I apologize to the group if it didn't sound the way that I meant it. Actually, I do try to educate pet store employees. I use to be one years ago. No, I'm NOT a rescuer...not by the standards of you guys who do on line rescue, but I try to "rescue" in one way or another...saving homeless animals from death and life on the streets. I don't do "on line" rescue other than cross posting an alert here and there, but I do what I can. But that's irrelevant. If you need to think of me as not being a rescuer then fine. I was just asking a question and apologize if I worded it in a bad way that might offend the members. I've experienced the same thing (people getting the wrong impression based upon my posts), so I would never just assume one thing or the other, which is why I ask.. Thanks. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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