High Triglycerides - from Myles

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So I get my blood work back and my doctor is delighted to see how low

my " bad " cholesterol is. HOWEVER... my good cholesterol is low and my

triglycerides are WAY TOO HIGH. All of this is indicative of somebody

with a high carbohydrate diet.

 

As I'm sure you all know,cholesterol comes only from animal products

and is also produced naturally by the body. Triglycerides are the

form of fat that occurs when the body stores excess carbs as fat.

 

If anybody has had a similar experience and has any advice, I'd love

to hear from you. I already avoid simple sugars and " white "

carbohydrates. I live on grains, fruits, vegetables, and tofu and

seitan. I've now eliminated all fruit juice.

 

I'm really bummed out because my doctor thinks I'm becoming diabetic

and the implication is that I'm basically replacing [animal] protein

with more carbs.

 

I know the argument, " if you return to eating animal products, your

cholesterol will go up. " Problem is... high triglycerides actually

kill way more people than high cholesterol does.

 

HELP!!!

[Guest guest]

Re good cholesterol (HDL), aerobic exercise is a great

way to elevate it, esp 3-4x/week, 30-45 mins/session.

But I suppose even lesser amount may be helpful. Good

HDL is cardioprotective so should lower your cardiac

risk. Mine doubled after I started running regularly.

 

Not as sure about lowering triglycerides. Certain

meds, esp statins, should help. Also, niacin (aka

Vitamin B3) I believe. I've heard that fiber can help

too, though it sounds like you already are eating a

diet in high fiber so may not help you much. Still,

can't hurt to eat more oatmeal I imagine (as long

you're not putting butter and gobs of sweetners in

it).

 

--- mbsilton <msilton wrote:

 

> If anybody has had a similar experience and has any

> advice, I'd love to hear from you.

 

 

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[Guest guest]

There are more factors than diet. Are you overweight? Do you get regular

cardio exercise almost every day? If the answers are yes to 1 and no to 2, I

really recommend walking 20 minutes a day every day that you can. Then build

upon that from there. Regarding diet, can you work with a nutritionist on

this issue? Have you seen Bronwyn Schweigerdt's blog? She's a nutritionist

and I really like her writing: http://beandiet.blogspot.com/

I'm genetically prone to type II diabetes and manage to keep my sugars just

under the highest point of " normal " and I have to treat grains (and breads

and white carbs) as if they were drugs. I'm a high protein, lotsa veggies

kind of grrl.

My doc's nurse, who is a diabetic told me to always eat protein with my

carbs. So fruit became problematic...I usually have peanut butter with an

apple or a banana. I've also contexted fruit as a treat, not a daily thing

and that has to be OK.

There's a lot of grey area here and I'm sorry you're in distress about this.

 

May the right answers for you reveal themselves.

Maddy

 

 

On Behalf Of

mbsilton

Friday, December 07, 2007 4:01 PM

 

High Triglycerides - from Myles

 

So I get my blood work back and my doctor is delighted to see how low my

" bad " cholesterol is. HOWEVER... my good cholesterol is low and my

triglycerides are WAY TOO HIGH. All of this is indicative of somebody with

a high carbohydrate diet.

 

As I'm sure you all know,cholesterol comes only from animal products and is

also produced naturally by the body. Triglycerides are the form of fat that

occurs when the body stores excess carbs as fat.

 

If anybody has had a similar experience and has any advice, I'd love to hear

from you. I already avoid simple sugars and " white "

carbohydrates. I live on grains, fruits, vegetables, and tofu and seitan.

I've now eliminated all fruit juice.

 

I'm really bummed out because my doctor thinks I'm becoming diabetic and the

implication is that I'm basically replacing [animal] protein with more

carbs.

 

I know the argument, " if you return to eating animal products, your

cholesterol will go up. " Problem is... high triglycerides actually kill

way more people than high cholesterol does.

 

HELP!!!

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

In his January 2003 newsletter, Dr McDougall explains that medical

research shows fat in the diet is more responsible for high

triglycerides than carbohydrates. The typical veg*n diet is still as

high in fats as the " American " diet we have left behind.

 

http://www.nealhendrickson.com/mcdougall/030100.htm

 

 

You may want to read some of the medical references he cites:

 

1) McDevitt R. De novo lipogenesis during controlled overfeeding with

sucrose or glucose in lean and obese women. Am J Clin Nutr. 2001

Dec;74(6):737-46.

 

2) Hudgins CH. Human fatty acid synthesis is reduced after the

substitution of dietary starch for sugar. Am J Clin Nutr. 1998

Apr;67(4):631-9.

 

3) Griffin BA. The effect of n-3 fatty acids on low density

lipoprotein subfractions. Lipids. 2001;36 Suppl:S91-7.

 

4) Vidon C. Effects of isoenergetic high-carbohydrate compared with

high-fat diets on human cholesterol synthesis and expression of key

regulatory genes of cholesterol metabolism. Am J Clin Nutr. 2001

May;73(5):878-84.

 

5) Schaefer EJ. Body weight and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol

changes after consumption of a low-fat ad libitum diet. JAMA. 1995 Nov

8;274(18):1450-5.

 

6) Barnard RJ. Role of diet and exercise in the management of

hyperinsulinemia and associated atherosclerotic risk factors. Am J

Cardiol. 1992 Feb 15;69(5):440-4.

 

7) Truswell AS. Food carbohydrates and plasma lipids--an update.

Am J Clin Nutr. 1994 Mar;59(3 Suppl):710S-718S.

 

8) Daly ME. Dietary carbohydrates and insulin sensitivity: a review

of the evidence and clinical implications. Am J Clin Nutr. 1997

Nov;66(5):1072-85.

 

9) Greco AV. Insulin resistance in morbid obesity: reversal with

intramyocellular fat depletion. Diabetes. 2002 Jan;51(1):144-51.

 

10) Meigs JB. Epidemiology of the metabolic syndrome, 2002. Am J

Manag Care. 2002 Sep;8(11 Suppl):S283-92.

 

11) McDougall J. Vegetable Fat as Medicine.

http://www.drmcdougall.com/vegetable_fat.html

 

12) Roberts CK. Reversibility of chronic experimental syndrome X by

diet modification. Hypertension. 2001 May;37(5):1323-8.

 

13) Elliott SS. Fructose, weight gain, and the insulin resistance

syndrome. Am J Clin Nutr. 2002 Nov;76(5):911-22.

 

14) Sidossis LS. Regulation of plasma fatty acid oxidation during

low- and high-intensity exercise. Am J Physiol. 1997 Jun;272(6 Pt

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15) Seip RL. Skeletal muscle lipoprotein lipase: molecular regulation

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16) McDougall J. The McDougall Program for a Healthy Heart. Plume,

New York, NY, 1996.

 

17) Capuzzi DM. Niacin dosing: relationship to benefits and adverse

effects. Curr Atheroscler Rep. 2000 Jan;2(1):64-71.

 

18) Xydakis AM. Combination therapy for combined dyslipidemia. Am J

Cardiol. 2002 Nov 20;90(10B):21K-29K.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Brian Darby

bsdarby

 

 

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