Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Hi Everyone,A friend of mine asked a good question about Prop 2 as it relates to local food systems, which follows:"Alicia- if this prop doesn¢t prevent people from importing eggs from out of state (from hens without room), wouldn¢t that start to push more egg supply out of state, and therefore make our food farther from our plates?"This person is not going to become vegetarian any time soon (he knows this would be the best way to cut down on all the environemental costs) - does anyone have any salient information I can pass along?I did my best to respond, saying that I didn't think this would push agribusiness out of California - that it would be more in their best interest to simply comply, but I don't have any hard facts to back me up. Do any of you? Do you know if this had any impact on agriculture in Florida and Arizona simply going elsewhere?Thank you!-Alicia The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated... I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man.Mahatma GandhiTo learn more about how animals are raised for food, and to learn about compassionate alternatives, please visit http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Check out the great YesOnProp2.com website for this information and more! Eggs coming from out of state: MYTH: Prop 2 will just drive egg production out of California, merely moving the problem rather than addressing it. FACT: During a similar ballot initiative in Arizona in 2006, the industry attempted to scare voters with the same assertion. In reality though, the opposite happened. Not only did the major gestation crate user remain in the state, but the landslide vote (62-38) was a catalyst for national reform in the veal and pork industries. Within just three months of the vote, the top two veal producers announced they'd phase out their use of veal crates and the largest pig producers in the US and Canada announced they'd be phasing out gestation crates. Arizona vote set a path not only for improved animal welfare in the state, but it encouraged reform in the rest of the nation, as well. A similar experience will likely take place in the egg industry when Californians pass Prop 2 – and industry leaders seem to agree. Further, an increasing number of major retailers are demanding that their suppliers move away from extreme confinement practices. Prop 2 will accelerate this trend, meaning that there will be even less incentive for production to relocate. 5. MYTH: Passing Prop 2 will mean Californians will just import eggs from Mexico. FACT: When asked about this allegation, even Dan Sumner, the author of an anti-Prop 2 report, conceded, " I personally think that's unlikely...Mexico doesn't produce much feed corn and that's why Mexico isn't a logical place for production. " > Hi Everyone, > A friend of mine asked a good question about Prop 2 as it relates to local > food systems, which follows: > > " Alicia- if this prop doesn¢t prevent > people from importing eggs from out of state (from hens without room), > wouldn¢t > that start to push more egg supply out of state, and therefore make our > food > farther from our plates? " > > This person is not going to become vegetarian any time soon (he knows this > would be the best way to cut down on all the environemental costs) - does > anyone have any salient information I can pass along? > I did my best to respond, saying that I didn't think this would push > agribusiness out of California - that it would be more in their best > interest to simply comply, but I don't have any hard facts to back me up. > Do any of you? Do you know if this had any impact on agriculture in > Florida and Arizona simply going elsewhere? > > Thank you! > -Alicia > > The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way > its animals are treated... I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the > more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. > Mahatma Gandhi > > > To learn more about how animals are raised for food, and to learn about > compassionate alternatives, please visit > http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Hi! A good resource is right from yesonprop2.com. This page goes through all of the MYTHS: http://www.yesonprop2.com/index.php? option=com_content & view=category & layout=blog & id=38 & Itemid=77 5. MYTH: Passing Prop 2 will mean Californians will just import eggs from Mexico. FACT: When asked about this allegation, even Dan Sumner, the author of an anti-Prop 2 report, conceded, " I personally think that's unlikely...Mexico doesn't produce much feed corn and that's why Mexico isn't a logical place for production. " -------they should be more concerned on eggs that are NOT cage free on their health and children------------ 3. MYTH: The measure increases Salmonella risk FACT: All of the recent evidence shows more Salmonella risk in caged flocks compared to cage-free. In fact, factory farming is considered the reason Salmonella emerged as such a major egg pathogen in the first place. According to the CDC, eggs now infect 50,000-110,000 Americans every year. The best available data shows that operations which cram thousands of hens into tiny cages are not surprisingly up to 20 times more likely than cage-free facilities to harbor Salmonella infection. Read our report on the public health benefits of Prop 2 [Executive Summary | Full Report] Great resource! Keep up the great work everyone! Mari Stoe , Alicia Moore <aliciacatherinemoore wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > A friend of mine asked a good question about Prop 2 as it relates to local food systems, which follows: > > " Alicia- if this prop doesn¢t prevent > people from importing eggs from out of state (from hens without room), wouldn¢t > that start to push more egg supply out of state, and therefore make our food > farther from our plates? " > > This person is not going to become vegetarian any time soon (he knows this would be the best way to cut down on all the environemental costs) - does anyone have any salient information I can pass along? > I did my best to respond, saying that I didn't think this would push agribusiness out of California - that it would be more in their best interest to simply comply, but I don't have any hard facts to back me up. Do any of you? Do you know if this had any impact on agriculture in Florida and Arizona simply going elsewhere? > > Thank you! > -Alicia > > The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated... I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. > Mahatma Gandhi > > > To learn more about how animals are raised for food, and to learn about compassionate alternatives, please visit http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Alicia Moore wrote: > A friend of mine asked a good question about Prop 2 as it relates to > local food systems, which follows: > " Alicia- if this prop doesn¢t prevent people from importing eggs from > out of state (from hens without room), wouldn¢t that start to push more > egg supply out of state, and therefore make our food farther from our > plates? " I don't have hard facts either, but the assumption that underlies this question is that it is cheaper to transport eggs over a long distance than to comply with proposition 2. I doubt that this is the case. -- David Benfell <dbenfell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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