Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 This is exactly the kind of recipe I'm looking for! I need use a gluten free flour blend instead of the whole wheat, but the rest of the recipe looks great for me as is! I'm sure it will work fine with my flour, and even be good to add things to, to vary the flavor. Thanks, Carrie! MarilynSee AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 I'm no expert, but I always use agave nectar in place of honey. Maple syrup would also work. MarilynSee AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 One thing we don’t have in Australia is “pastry flour” ... What’s different about that than regular flour? Also, many vegans do not consider honey to be vegan, so I wonder if there’s a substitute that would work? Thanks for the recipe! Anna -- http://eatbreathemove.blogspot.com/ On 21/12/07 12:56 AM, " presbyrn " <bcv001 wrote: Hi. I am new to this group. I am currently in the process of switching to a low fat vegan diet for health reasons. I thought you might enjoy this whole wheat muffin recipe I converted to a vegan recipe this morning. This recipe is very adaptable so you can play with it and find something you enjoy. 2 1/4 cups whole wheat pastry flour 1 tsp baking powder 1/2 tsp baking soda 1 tsp salt 1 cup almond milk 2 bananas 1/2 cup apple sauce 1/2 cup honey 1/2 cup dried fruit ( I used blueberries and cherries) 1/2 cup chopped nuts (these are optional but my husband likes nuts) Mix dry ingredients add wet ingredients and combine. Fold in fruit and nuts. Bake in greased muffin tins at 400 degrees for 20 to 25 minutes or until golden brown. This made 12 muffins for me. Carrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Light corn syrup might be another option for honey, that's what I use anyway on the seldom occasion that I come across honey in a recipe. Kate Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from U.S. Cellular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Corn syrup should be used with caution--it is a neurotoxin, no matter how common it is in processed foods. Cane syrup, homemade or store bought, should be considered instead. Just an FYI--not to step on toes. MarilynSee AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 I have heard that Jack Frost brand sugar is vegan. Whole Foods also sells a vegan sugar. MarilynSee AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Kate--I saw two different corn syrup subs in my local grocery store--Lyle's Golden Syrup, and a cane syrup. It's also super easy to make your own sugar syrup--just boil water and sugar together (I forget the ratio offhand--sorry!), until the sugar melts and the syrup is clear, then store in a glass jar in the refrigerator. Keeps a long time. For info on corn syrup, there are articles at the Weston A. Price website (www.westonaprice.org), the Feingold Association website (www.feingold.org), and possibly the Hallelujah Acres website (www.hacres.com). Worth looking into. Corn syrup causes all sorts of behavioral and health problems. Two of my kids go off the wall for three days straight if they have too much candy with corn syrup in it. And it's definitely the corn syrup, as the rest of what's in the candy I let them have is all natural--no dyes (which are petroleum based) or artificial flavors or anything. Just a heads-up. MarilynSee AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Pastry flour is soft (low gluten), so pastry remains flakier. Bread needs hard flour (high gluten). the gluten is released as you kneed it and becomes elastic and pliable. Hard flour need to have minimal mixing in cakes, pie crusts, biscuits, etc. or they come out hard and dense instead of flaky. - Coop Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:41 PM Re: Whole Wheat Vegan Fruit Muffins and Intro One thing we don’t have in Australia is “pastry flour” ... What’s different about that than regular flour?Also, many vegans do not consider honey to be vegan, so I wonder if there’s a substitute that would work?Thanks for the recipe!Anna-- http://eatbreathemove.blogspot.com/On 21/12/07 12:56 AM, "presbyrn" <bcv001 (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net> wrote: Hi. I am new to this group. I am currently in the process ofswitching to a low fat vegan diet for health reasons.I thought you might enjoy this whole wheat muffin recipe I convertedto a vegan recipe this morning. This recipe is very adaptable so youcan play with it and find something you enjoy.2 1/4 cups whole wheat pastry flour1 tsp baking powder1/2 tsp baking soda1 tsp salt1 cup almond milk2 bananas1/2 cup apple sauce1/2 cup honey1/2 cup dried fruit ( I used blueberries and cherries)1/2 cup chopped nuts (these are optional but my husband likes nuts)Mix dry ingredients add wet ingredients and combine. Fold in fruit andnuts. Bake in greased muffin tins at 400 degrees for 20 to 25 minutesor until golden brown. This made 12 muffins for me.Carrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 vegan sweeteners: http://www.gentleworld.org/vegan_alternatives/sweeteners.html Sugar frequently is produced using charcoaled bones to purify it and is typically made at the expense of human rights. - Coop Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:41 PM Re: Whole Wheat Vegan Fruit Muffins and Intro One thing we don’t have in Australia is “pastry flour” ... What’s different about that than regular flour?Also, many vegans do not consider honey to be vegan, so I wonder if there’s a substitute that would work?Thanks for the recipe!Anna-- http://eatbreathemove.blogspot.com/On 21/12/07 12:56 AM, "presbyrn" <bcv001 (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net> wrote: Hi. I am new to this group. I am currently in the process ofswitching to a low fat vegan diet for health reasons.I thought you might enjoy this whole wheat muffin recipe I convertedto a vegan recipe this morning. This recipe is very adaptable so youcan play with it and find something you enjoy.2 1/4 cups whole wheat pastry flour1 tsp baking powder1/2 tsp baking soda1 tsp salt1 cup almond milk2 bananas1/2 cup apple sauce1/2 cup honey1/2 cup dried fruit ( I used blueberries and cherries)1/2 cup chopped nuts (these are optional but my husband likes nuts)Mix dry ingredients add wet ingredients and combine. Fold in fruit andnuts. Bake in greased muffin tins at 400 degrees for 20 to 25 minutesor until golden brown. This made 12 muffins for me.Carrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Neurotoxin I'd definitely want to know about so I will give corn syrup a second look (not that I've used it much anyway, just for when I see honey asked for in a recipe). Sugar not having gone through a veganized processing I'm not sure I'm too happy about having that information given. If it's not IN it I'd be a lot happier not knowing about all those things. I was a longtime vegetarian when I became vegan last year because of " too much information " about what's in dairy (sigh). Kate -- sahmomof8 Sender: Reply Dec 20, 2007 9:10 PM Re: Whole Wheat Vegan Fruit Muffins and Intro Corn syrup should be used with caution--it is a neurotoxin, no matter how common it is in processed foods. Cane syrup, homemade or store bought, should be considered instead. Just an FYI--not to step on toes. Marilyn ---------------- See AOL's top rated recipes <http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004> and easy ways to stay in shape <http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aoltop00030000000003> for winter. Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from U.S. Cellular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 A sugar called "Florida's Crystals" is vegan... - veganivore Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:26 PM Re: Whole Wheat Vegan Fruit Muffins and Intro Neurotoxin I'd definitely want to know about so I will give corn syrup a second look (not that I've used it much anyway, just for when I see honey asked for in a recipe). Sugar not having gone through a veganized processing I'm not sure I'm too happy about having that information given. If it's not IN it I'd be a lot happier not knowing about all those things. I was a longtime vegetarian when I became vegan last year because of "too much information" about what's in dairy (sigh).Kate--sahmomof8 (AT) aol (DOT) comSender: To: Reply Sent: Dec 20, 2007 9:10 PMRe: Whole Wheat Vegan Fruit Muffins and IntroCorn syrup should be used with caution--it is a neurotoxin, no matter how common it is in processed foods. Cane syrup, homemade or store bought, should be considered instead. Just an FYI--not to step on toes. Marilyn----------------See AOL's top rated recipes <http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004> and easy ways to stay in shape <http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aoltop00030000000003> for winter. Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from U.S. Cellular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Diane--As far as I am aware, any type of corn syrup can cause all kinds of health and behavioral problems. It isn't JUST the HFCS that gets added to products, and CS is CS, from what I understand. And just FYI, "glucose syrup" or just "glucose" is another name for CS. Within minutes of eating or drinking anything containing CS, my 8yo son in particular gets totally wound up--talking too much, too fast, touching things impulsively, and being really pesty--which he wasn't just minutes before. My 13yo daughter gets pretty much the same way. It's subtle, and might be put down to kids misbehaving, ADHD, "normal boy stuff", "normal sibling behavior", a restless or bored kid, or whatever, by people accustomed to seeing kids act that way. But this behavior is NOT normal, and given a "clean" diet, both these kids are generally calm, focused, and well behaved. MarilynSee AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Ok, thanks. Kate -- Janet Coe Hammond Sender: Reply Dec 20, 2007 10:55 PM Re: Whole Wheat Vegan Fruit Muffins and Intro A sugar called " Florida's Crystals " is vegan... - veganivore <veganivore Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:26 PM Re: Whole Wheat Vegan Fruit Muffins and Intro Neurotoxin I'd definitely want to know about so I will give corn syrup a second look (not that I've used it much anyway, just for when I see honey asked for in a recipe). Sugar not having gone through a veganized processing I'm not sure I'm too happy about having that information given. If it's not IN it I'd be a lot happier not knowing about all those things. I was a longtime vegetarian when I became vegan last year because of " too much information " about what's in dairy (sigh). Kate -- sahmomof8 Sender: Reply Dec 20, 2007 9:10 PM Re: Whole Wheat Vegan Fruit Muffins and Intro Corn syrup should be used with caution--it is a neurotoxin, no matter how common it is in processed foods. Cane syrup, homemade or store bought, should be considered instead. Just an FYI--not to step on toes. Marilyn ---------------- See AOL's top rated recipes <http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004> and easy ways to stay in shape <http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aoltop00030000000003> for winter. Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from U.S. Cellular Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from U.S. Cellular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Thanks for the idea of using sugar syrup, I will try that instead. Kate -- sahmomof8 Sender: Reply Dec 20, 2007 10:14 PM Re: Whole Wheat Vegan Fruit Muffins and Intro Kate--I saw two different corn syrup subs in my local grocery store--Lyle's Golden Syrup, and a cane syrup. It's also super easy to make your own sugar syrup--just boil water and sugar together (I forget the ratio offhand--sorry!), until the sugar melts and the syrup is clear, then store in a glass jar in the refrigerator. Keeps a long time. For info on corn syrup, there are articles at the Weston A. Price website (www.westonaprice.org <http://www.westonaprice.org> ), the Feingold Association website (www.feingold.org), and possibly the Hallelujah Acres website (www.hacres.com). Worth looking into. Corn syrup causes all sorts of behavioral and health problems. Two of my kids go off the wall for three days straight if they have too much candy with corn syrup in it. And it's definitely the corn syrup, as the rest of what's in the candy I let them have is all natural--no dyes (which are petroleum based) or artificial flavors or anything. Just a heads-up. Marilyn ---------------- See AOL's top rated recipes <http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004> and easy ways to stay in shape <http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aoltop00030000000003> for winter. Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from U.S. Cellular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 , sahmomof8 wrote: > > > > Corn syrup should be used with caution--it is a neurotoxin, no matter how > common it is in processed foods. Cane syrup, homemade or store bought, should > be considered instead. Just an FYI--not to step on toes. Marilyn ALL corn syrup, or just the highly manufactured and engineered high fructose corn syrup that gets added to so many processed foods? I've only heard of problems with the latter, which is something that consumers can't even buy directly. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 You're right, Anna, honey isn't vegan. The best replacement is Agave Nectar. It's amazing. Doesn't affect the blood sugar, is a syrup like honey so you don't have to figure out the liquid replacement thing, and it is wonderfully sweet. I have no idea if you can find it in Australia. The down side? It's expensive. But SO worth it! Re: pastry flour: It's ground much more finely. Good luck! Lebkuchen , Coop <rodstruelove wrote: > > One thing we don¹t have in Australia is ³pastry flour² ... What¹s different > about that than regular flour? > > Also, many vegans do not consider honey to be vegan, so I wonder if there¹s > a substitute that would work? > > Thanks for the recipe! > > Anna > -- > http://eatbreathemove.blogspot.com/ > > > > > On 21/12/07 12:56 AM, " presbyrn " <bcv001 wrote: > > > > > Hi. I am new to this group. I am currently in the process of > > switching to a low fat vegan diet for health reasons. > > > > I thought you might enjoy this whole wheat muffin recipe I converted > > to a vegan recipe this morning. This recipe is very adaptable so you > > can play with it and find something you enjoy. > > > > 2 1/4 cups whole wheat pastry flour > > 1 tsp baking powder > > 1/2 tsp baking soda > > 1 tsp salt > > > > 1 cup almond milk > > 2 bananas > > 1/2 cup apple sauce > > 1/2 cup honey > > > > 1/2 cup dried fruit ( I used blueberries and cherries) > > 1/2 cup chopped nuts (these are optional but my husband likes nuts) > > > > Mix dry ingredients add wet ingredients and combine. Fold in fruit and > > nuts. Bake in greased muffin tins at 400 degrees for 20 to 25 minutes > > or until golden brown. This made 12 muffins for me. > > > > Carrie > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Well I have had no luck finding agave nectar here either, even in the health food stores. : ( Anna -- http://eatbreathemove.blogspot.com/ On 22/12/07 3:19 AM, " jegraef " <jegraef wrote: You're right, Anna, honey isn't vegan. The best replacement is Agave Nectar. It's amazing. Doesn't affect the blood sugar, is a syrup like honey so you don't have to figure out the liquid replacement thing, and it is wonderfully sweet. I have no idea if you can find it in Australia. The down side? It's expensive. But SO worth it! Re: pastry flour: It's ground much more finely. Good luck! Lebkuchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 > Well I have had no luck finding agave nectar here either, even in the health > food stores. : ( Amazon.com has loads of it in prices way better than your local HFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Yeah, but they won’t ship outside the US. Anna -- http://eatbreathemove.blogspot.com/ On 23/12/07 12:28 AM, " Sue in NJ " <sue_in_nj wrote: > Well I have had no luck finding agave nectar here either, even in the health > food stores. : ( Amazon.com has loads of it in prices way better than your local HFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Most health food stores will order stuff for you if you tell them you want them to carry it regularly. None of the Wild Oats in Utah carried Agave Nectar or Vegan Gourmet vegan cheese and I requested both (and got my friends to request them too) and now all of the locations in Utah carry both. Before Wild Oats carried them, I had to drive 15 miles to another heath food store, and that was a little inconvenient for me, especially if that was the only reason I was going out that way (If I had a dentist or optometrist appointment or if I was visiting friends or family in that area, I would stop in, but otherwise I wouldn't make a special trip to get these things).A little persistence never hurt anyone. Ask & you shall receive Coop <rodstruelove wrote: Well I have had no luck finding agave nectar here either, even in the health food stores. : ( Anna -- http://eatbreathemove.blogspot.com/ On 22/12/07 3:19 AM, "jegraef (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net" <jegraef (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: You're right, Anna, honey isn't vegan. The best replacement is Agave Nectar. It's amazing. Doesn't affect the blood sugar, is a syrup like honey so you don't have to figure out the liquid replacement thing, and it is wonderfully sweet. I have no idea if you can find it in Australia. The down side? It's expensive. But SO worth it! Re: pastry flour: It's ground much more finely. Good luck! Lebkuchen Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 i've seen it in organic stores here in nz, so it seems likely it's available in oz. i'd love to try it, but it's so expensive! On 23 Dec 2007, at 02:43, Coop wrote: > Yeah, but they won’t ship outside the US. > > Anna > -- > http://eatbreathemove.blogspot.com/ > > > > > On 23/12/07 12:28 AM, " Sue in NJ " <sue_in_nj wrote: >> >> > Well I have had no luck finding agave nectar here either, even in >> the >> health >> > food stores. : ( >> >> Amazon.com has loads of it in prices way better than your local HFS. >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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