Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Two weeks ago I was at the doctors for my annual physical. I've been a diabetic for 8 years, take my medication, try to eat right and I'm not a couch potato. But I've always had difficulty with weight - lose some then gain it back, on and on... Anyways my test results were bad. He adds two more medicines to the two I already take. And tells me to lose 20 lbs. And says " See you in 4 months " . I was not happy. So I searched online and came across Dr. Barnard's program. I got the book and read it cover to cover in a few days. While reading reviews of the book online, I came across " The 30-Day Diabetes Miracle " book from Lifestyle Center of America. I was really impressed by both books - two different people pushing the same vegan diet to get healthy. The 30-Day book doesn't push the no fat rule but it has good information on changing how you think and exercise that were not really covered in Dr. Barnard's book. I started the low fat vegan diet on Saturday after clearing out my freezer, frig, and pantry of anything I couldn't have. (Yes I am married and didn't give her an option - she could lose some weight too) I started watching what I ate on the Tuesday before that - going vegan on some meals, but totally vegan since Saturday. I also gave up diet pepsi which I use to drink about 2 liters a day. I've lost 5.5 lbs over the past week and my morning sugar count has dropped from 177 to 96 this morning. It may be a blip - it was 145 yesterday. Anyways, I'm finding the conversion pretty. I can handle the food, it's getting used to having to do more preparation. My wife has lost 1.5 lbs in 3 days (she didn't start until Sunday) and is encouraged as well. What is the McDougall Program? Is it similar to Dr. Barnard's program? I am going to stick to this diet for four months when I go back for my checkup. If the results are as other people have experienced, I'll be a vegan for life. I'm glad I found this group to share my experiences and ask questions of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Hi Mark, I have also been a diabetic for 8 years and was taking 100 plus units of insulin and a mutlitude of pills a month ago. A month ago my blood sugar was 325 today it is 90. I went on Dr. McDougall's low fat vegan plan and have lost 25.5 pounds since May 5. Dr. Barnard and Dr. McDougall have the same ideas, but McDougall does not like any added fat as we get enough fat from veggies. His website is here www.drmcdougall.com. My A1C just came back yesterday and it went from 7.5 to 6.6 and my total cholesterol has gone down as well. I am thrilled and have more energy than ever. I am definitely vegan for life now. Congratulations on your success. Prim Hugs , Lisa http://www.dandeliondarlings.com/shoppes/ddcraftyeladyecreations http://craftyeladyecreations.blogspot.com "Everyone has a talent, what is rare is the courage to fcllow that talent." Search that pays you back! Introducing Live Search cashback. Search Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 , " Mark " <markm109 wrote: > > Two weeks ago I was at the doctors for my annual physical. I've > been a diabetic for 8 years, take my medication, try to eat right > and I'm not a couch potato. But I've always had difficulty with > weight - lose some then gain it back, on and on... > > Anyways my test results were bad. He adds two more medicines to the > two I already take. And tells me to lose 20 lbs. And says " See you > in 4 months " . > > I was not happy. So I searched online and came across Dr. Barnard's > program. I got the book and read it cover to cover in a few days. > While reading reviews of the book online, I came across " The 30-Day > Diabetes Miracle " book from Lifestyle Center of America. I was > really impressed by both books - two different people pushing the > same vegan diet to get healthy. The 30-Day book doesn't push the no > fat rule but it has good information on changing how you think and > exercise that were not really covered in Dr. Barnard's book. > > I started the low fat vegan diet on Saturday after clearing out my > freezer, frig, and pantry of anything I couldn't have. (Yes I am > married and didn't give her an option - she could lose some weight > too) I started watching what I ate on the Tuesday before that - > going vegan on some meals, but totally vegan since Saturday. I also > gave up diet pepsi which I use to drink about 2 liters a day. I've > lost 5.5 lbs over the past week and my morning sugar count has > dropped from 177 to 96 this morning. It may be a blip - it was 145 > yesterday. > > Anyways, I'm finding the conversion pretty. I can handle the food, > it's getting used to having to do more preparation. My wife has > lost 1.5 lbs in 3 days (she didn't start until Sunday) and is > encouraged as well. > > What is the McDougall Program? Is it similar to Dr. Barnard's > program? > > I am going to stick to this diet for four months when I go back for > my checkup. If the results are as other people have experienced, > I'll be a vegan for life. > > I'm glad I found this group to share my experiences and ask > questions of. > Hi Mark: You can get a wealth of information about the McDougall program by going to his website, www.drmcdougall.com My husband and I have been following his program for a little over a year and are constantly being re-educated through his books, tapes and DVDs. The cookbooks are phenomenal. I never thought vegetables could be so tasty and definitely not boring. The website is worth looking at. Gerri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 On 6/4/08, Lisa Wagenhurst <lwagenhurst wrote: > > Dr. Barnard and Dr. McDougall have the same ideas, but McDougall > does not like any added fat as we get enough fat from veggies. That's not a difference; Dr. Barnard says the same thing. The main differences I've seen is that Dr. Barnard says more about glycemic index than I've seen Dr. McDougall saying and Dr. McDougall has extra details about fast weight loss, including the bit about green and yellow vegetables. Other than that, the two doctors are pretty much on the same page and I haven't seen anything they outright disagree about. I highly recommend both of them. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Sparrow R Jones wrote: > On 6/4/08, Lisa Wagenhurst <lwagenhurst wrote: > > Dr. Barnard and Dr. McDougall have the same ideas, but McDougall > > does not like any added fat as we get enough fat from veggies. > > That's not a difference; Dr. Barnard says the same thing. The main > differences I've seen is that Dr. Barnard says more about glycemic > index than I've seen Dr. McDougall saying and Dr. McDougall has extra > details about fast weight loss, including the bit about green and > yellow vegetables. Other than that, the two doctors are pretty much > on the same page and I haven't seen anything they outright disagree > about. I highly recommend both of them. The only thing I've seen them outright disagree about is glycemic index. McDougall and his nutritionist guy both say it's totally unnecessary to worry about GI. Serene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 On 6/4/08, Serene <serene-lists wrote: > > The only thing I've seen them outright disagree about is glycemic index. > McDougall and his nutritionist guy both say it's totally unnecessary to > worry about GI. Ah, I didn't realize that. I have cut way back on white potatoes but I still eat them sometimes, mixed with other things, like a potato-chickpea curry or as a farmer's pie topping. When I've paid attention, I haven't seen much difference in my blood sugars between when I eat a white potato and when I eat a sweet potato (for example, I don't see any post-meal difference between farmer's pie with white potato and my lentil-sweet potato pie which is roughly the same thing.) It's good to know that there's a vegan doctor out there who agrees with my glucose monitor. :-) Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 The gorgeous thing about potato's is that they are all not the same. I've looked up information about different varieties of potato's to see the nutritional info. I've found out the secrete that people was looking for. There is a low carbohydrate potato; the red potato. You can eat more of them with out having the high carbohydrate intake. You just look it up yourself. I personally eat them every time I need potato's.Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 12:28:42 AMRe: Two New Vegans here On 6/4/08, Serene <serene-lists@ serenepages. org> wrote: > > The only thing I've seen them outright disagree about is glycemic index. > McDougall and his nutritionist guy both say it's totally unnecessary to > worry about GI. Ah, I didn't realize that. I have cut way back on white potatoes but I still eat them sometimes, mixed with other things, like a potato-chickpea curry or as a farmer's pie topping. When I've paid attention, I haven't seen much difference in my blood sugars between when I eat a white potato and when I eat a sweet potato (for example, I don't see any post-meal difference between farmer's pie with white potato and my lentil-sweet potato pie which is roughly the same thing.) It's good to know that there's a vegan doctor out there who agrees with my glucose monitor. :-) Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 candyazz28 wrote: > <!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --> The gorgeous thing about potato's is that > they are all not the same. I've looked up information about different > varieties of potato's to see the nutritional info. I've found out the > secrete that people was looking for. There is a low carbohydrate > potato; the red potato. You can eat more of them with out having the > high carbohydrate intake. You just look it up yourself. I personally > eat them every time I need potato's. Everyone's reaction to different carbs is different. My partner is diabetic, and red potatoes are the worst for him in terms of blood-sugar spike. His sugar spikes MUCH less with white potatoes. Serene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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