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In message <9jlovr+d7iv (AT) eGroups (DOT) com>, Beverley <hungryvegan

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>does anyone have any recipes or ideas of how i can get more calcium

>in my diet.

 

if you go to www.vegansociety.com and type calcium in the search window

you will get the info sheet on the subject. they used to sell a

cookbook called calciyum but not sure if it's currently available. you

could call and ask.

 

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Eat more grass Cows don't seem to worry {if you don't like grass try

other green stuff} Angie

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" Beverley " <hungryvegan

 

Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:29 AM

Calcium

 

 

> does anyone have any recipes or ideas of how i can get more calcium

> in my diet.

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thanks for info, I've just joined them so I should have looked whilst

there durrr!!!

 

, vclarke <vegans@p...> wrote:

> In message <9jlovr+d7iv@e...>, Beverley <hungryvegan>

> writes

>

> >does anyone have any recipes or ideas of how i can get more

calcium

> >in my diet.

>

> if you go to www.vegansociety.com and type calcium in the search

window

> you will get the info sheet on the subject. they used to sell a

> cookbook called calciyum but not sure if it's currently available.

you

> could call and ask.

>

> vanessa

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I think you'll find we have slightly different digestive systems, and

i prefer to smoke it anyway!!!

 

 

, " Angie Wright " <angiewright@n...> wrote:

> Eat more grass Cows don't seem to worry {if you don't like grass

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> other green stuff} Angie

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> Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:29 AM

> Calcium

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> > does anyone have any recipes or ideas of how i can get more

calcium

> > in my diet.

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> > To send an email to -

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When I became a vegetarian in my teens people worried that I would become

ill. I asked my doctor and he was great. He said *cows are vegetarian and

they're bigger than you*. Classic!

 

Jane

 

 

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" Angie Wright " <angiewright

 

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> Eat more grass Cows don't seem to worry {if you don't like grass try

> other green stuff} Angie

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> " Beverley " <hungryvegan

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> Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:29 AM

> Calcium

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> > does anyone have any recipes or ideas of how i can get more calcium

> > in my diet.

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> > To send an email to -

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Hi

 

> > does anyone have any recipes or ideas of how i can get more calcium

> > in my diet.

 

Sesame seeds, tofu, soya milk, green vegetables, nuts.

 

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Jane

 

> When I became a vegetarian in my teens people worried that I would become

> ill. I asked my doctor and he was great. He said *cows are vegetarian

and

> they're bigger than you*. Classic!

 

This is so true! All the evidence is there to support a vegan diet as being

the healthiest possible.

 

Jo

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Ian

 

Another thought on sesame seeds - I love those little packets of sesame

snaps - a bit sugary, but a fun way to get some calcium!

 

Jo

 

ah yes, but ...

 

 

> > BTW, my GF has broken her toe, and is looking to build up her calcium.

> > (Primarily with cow milk :( ). My calcium staples - Tahini, and

> > fortified soya milk - do not appeal to her. Does anyone want to point to

> > calcium-rich recipies with broad tastebud appeal?

 

 

 

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> Dunno about recipes but almonds, brazils, broccoli, green leafy veg,

sesame

> seeds are all calcium rich. And I think the calcium in the fortified

version

> of Tropicana orange juice is suitable for vegans. If you're not

anti-Nestle,

> Nesquik is great with soya milk. Also, am pretty sure there's a

homoeopathic

> remedy for broken bones which might be worth a try - can't remember what

it

> is but a Google search would find it. Unless you're anti of course...

> And next time, don't be so clumsy when you're dancing!

 

or you could take comfrey for a short while.

 

Jo

 

 

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The reason that many Americans don't get enough calcium is because

they eat too many animal proteins, not protein in general. Animal

proteins (i.e. milk) are more acidic than vegetable, therefore some

of the calcium gets dissolved and depleted. another reason might be

that they aren't getting enough magnesium or vitamin D, both which

aid in the asorption of calcium. Most multivitamin supplements have

very little calcium because it is assumed that people get plenty,

because they drink milk. I don't eat dairy anymore, so i get my

calcium in my soy milk or in supplements. If you eat dairy, I have

no idea if you're getting enough or too much, but at least make sure

to get magnesium, too.

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The confusion is not helped any by the sheer number of new supplements that

hit the market every year. I remember when just taking the basic vitamins

was the debate. Today, there's so much more for us to consider that it

easily numbs the mind.

 

Referring to my " human body as a chemical engine " thesis, it makes sense to

add some supplements to our diet, but there's a number of variables to be

considered.

 

From birth to age 25, the healthy human body is in need of very little b/c

that chemical engine is just purring along. If the owner has a reasonable

diet, doesn't inflict too much trauma on it, and is reasonably active, it's

in good shape.

 

By age 30, wear and tear begins to take its toll. Fine lines appear here

and there. If our diet has not been the best, our times on the track begin

to slip. While we can still keep them up with a little more effort, the

first signs of inevitable aging are beginning to slow us down.

 

After age 40, everything starts degrading to the point that intervention is

needed either now or later. The lines we saw at 30 now get bigger, deeper,

and of course, more noticable. Most people let go of the youthful lifestyle

they had, and their physical activity slips so much that not noticing it is

just about impossible. Here's where the question of supplements really gets

to be a big one.

 

Today is the first time in human history where there is a solution to such

woes. Medical technology has done some fantastic things over the past two

decades. The medical journals are filled with interesting things, some of

which can almost take your breath away.

 

The question now has become a simple one--regardless of who you are " do you

supplement or not " " If yes, then when?

 

This is strictly my opinion. No one should believe me, or take anything at

face value. Anyone interested in what I say ought to do the research for

themselves. You read, then decide if it's for you.

 

I supplement with vitamins, antioxidents, and a few high-tech supplements

that very few have probably heard of. I've done this for five years, adding

or deleting supplements that didn't produce results. I've posted many

comments about my level of health. I share this not to generate debate but

to share. If we disagree, I'm happy with that too. My way is just that,

simply my way.

 

I've heard veggies over the years say, " I ought to be able to get all I need

from my food. " Hell, I even said it myself, but I'll admit it, I was wrong.

Our food supply has degraded considerably over the past two decades, and we

all need help with our health. I blame no one, I just make adjustments in

my life for it.

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

 

Sheryl [ssarndt]

Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:50 AM

 

calcium

 

> i usually tell people NOT to take supplements (except for

> calcium, as most people don't get enough)

 

Really? I've heard so many conflicting theories about this one.

I've heard it said that it's not that we do not get enough calcium,

but that Americans in general eat too much protein which leaches the

calcium out of the body. I've also heard that the calcium in dairy

products is in a less-useable form than that in green leafy

vegetables and other sources. I've also heard that too much calcium

can create kidney or gall stones (one of them anyway). At one point

I was taking calcium supplements, then I stopped. I just don't know

what to do.

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Maybe the use of " high-tech " to describe these supplements was not the best

descriptor. By " high-tech " I actually meant " less commonly known " and

available from sources that focus high-tech resources on their production

and evolution as the knowledge base about them improves.

 

Cognitex with Pregnenolone (among other things) from www.lef.org. Here's

why it take this one...high carb consumption leads to high cortisol levels;

high cortisol levels lead to brain malfunctions; brain malfunctions lead to

increased stress; which leads to higher levels of cortisol; which further

accelerates brain neuron loss and their death...in essence a vicious cycle

can be avoided. It turns out that pregnenolone is an immediate precursor

for controling the level of cortisol.

 

Neuromins DHA. This is an omega-3 fatty acid produced from seaweed.

Another of the many supplement for the brain. This one shortens the

conversions cycle for actually being used in the body.

 

Gamma E Tocopherol/Tocotrienols. Vitamin E is a necessity for most health

conscious veggies. This supplement contains the full spectrum of the

vitamin E family. The tocotrienols are 20-50 times more potent that what

one finds on the shelf at the local drug store.

 

I hope these are of benefit to you.

 

Dave

 

 

 

 

dave [dave4sale]

Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:53 PM

 

Re: calcium

 

dave, what are the " few high tech supplements " you've found that

work?

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hello guys,

thanks for all the information you are posting! it is sooo cool to

read all your replies (O: i love it! i have posted this question on

several groups and i'm getting loads of responses, wowy. i have to

re-read everything to understand it, but that makes it interesting.

i will up the greens and fruits and water intake........talk to you

later, moi, rik

 

 

 

 

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My girls don't like rice or almond milk.

kelly

 

c l m <whovilleabc wrote:

 

If it is the soy you are trying to avoid, and not the sugar, then I

would look to rice milk and almond milk. You can get both that have

been fortified with the same amount of calcium as soy or cows milk.

hth

Cindy

 

 

 

 

 

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Silk also makes an unsweetened soy milk, FWIW.

 

God's Peace,

Gayle

 

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Saturday, November 20, 2004 7:43 PM

Re: calcium

 

 

 

 

My girls don't like rice or almond milk.

kelly

 

c l m <whovilleabc wrote:

 

If it is the soy you are trying to avoid, and not the sugar, then I

would look to rice milk and almond milk. You can get both that have

been fortified with the same amount of calcium as soy or cows milk.

hth

Cindy

 

 

 

 

 

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qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

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Have you tried Blue Diamond Almond Breeze chocolate? My kids LOVE this

stuff. Problem is, it's not organic and negligible protein, but 20% calcium.

My 2 kids will drink the whole container in one sitting if I let them which

says a lot for my son who does not like milky drinks much. Every day I try

to get some soy milk hot chocolate into him for breakfast to provide some

calcium and protein.

 

Also, the fortified OJ is a great thing. We usually have this at dinner

time. I just wish I could find an organic frozen concentrate which is

calcium fortified! For now it's Minute Maid Blends. They love the orange

passion fruit! Lots of sugar, to be sure, but my kids (14 and 9) are

athletes so I don't worry too much about natural sugar. Just trying to cut

down on the candy!

 

Tracy

 

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" Kelly Weyd " <kellmar98

 

Saturday, November 20, 2004 4:43 PM

Re: calcium

 

 

 

 

My girls don't like rice or almond milk.

kelly

 

c l m <whovilleabc wrote:

 

If it is the soy you are trying to avoid, and not the sugar, then I

would look to rice milk and almond milk. You can get both that have

been fortified with the same amount of calcium as soy or cows milk.

hth

Cindy

 

 

 

 

 

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http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

 

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we use the enriched and it is great! I can't stand the vanilla or choclate by

them. but the one we use is great and the original is ok. let me knoe if you try

the unsweetened one. we have used that to cook with. also- vitasoy has an

unsweetened soy milk that is excellent and very creamy. c oh- is anyone

raising their kids VEGAN here? am trying to make the switch and was just

wondering what you all did or if anyone had any advice. we don't really do much

dairy but she will have an egg once in awile.

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Monday, November 22, 2004 9:38 AM

Re: calcium

 

 

 

Silk also makes an unsweetened soy milk, FWIW.

 

God's Peace,

Gayle

 

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Saturday, November 20, 2004 7:43 PM

Re: calcium

 

 

 

 

My girls don't like rice or almond milk.

kelly

 

c l m <whovilleabc wrote:

 

If it is the soy you are trying to avoid, and not the sugar, then I

would look to rice milk and almond milk. You can get both that have

been fortified with the same amount of calcium as soy or cows milk.

hth

Cindy

 

 

 

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I don't worry about the natural sugar either, since my girls are active and eat

a very healthy diet. I did cut out High Fructose Corn Syrup and dyes since

Mariah has ADHD. I've decided to give them one cup of soy milk each a

day....the soy in moderation thing. So they drink water, smoothies, fortified

oj, and the soy milk. I think at this point they are getting enough calcium. I

have also reintroduced yogurt a bit at a time....I'm taking it easy to see if it

upsets Mariah's stomach and so far so good. Also I throw a piece of brice rice

cheese at them once in a while. So now I've relaxed a bit on the calcium issue.

Katrina my two year old will drink the Almond Breeze Chocolate, but not the

other two. Oh well, that's o.k., like I said at this point I think I've got the

calcium thing figured out. Next week I'm sure it will be something else I'm

worried about.....just comes with being a Mommy.

 

kelly

 

Tracy Childs <tracychilds wrote:

 

Have you tried Blue Diamond Almond Breeze chocolate? My kids LOVE this

stuff. Problem is, it's not organic and negligible protein, but 20% calcium.

My 2 kids will drink the whole container in one sitting if I let them which

says a lot for my son who does not like milky drinks much. Every day I try

to get some soy milk hot chocolate into him for breakfast to provide some

calcium and protein.

 

Also, the fortified OJ is a great thing. We usually have this at dinner

time. I just wish I could find an organic frozen concentrate which is

calcium fortified! For now it's Minute Maid Blends. They love the orange

passion fruit! Lots of sugar, to be sure, but my kids (14 and 9) are

athletes so I don't worry too much about natural sugar. Just trying to cut

down on the candy!

 

Tracy

 

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" Kelly Weyd " <kellmar98

 

Saturday, November 20, 2004 4:43 PM

Re: calcium

 

 

 

 

My girls don't like rice or almond milk.

kelly

 

c l m <whovilleabc wrote:

 

If it is the soy you are trying to avoid, and not the sugar, then I

would look to rice milk and almond milk. You can get both that have

been fortified with the same amount of calcium as soy or cows milk.

hth

Cindy

 

 

 

 

 

The all-new My - Get yours free!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

 

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Try simply orange oj.It's not frozen but it's 100% oj NOT from concentrate.They

make a calcium fortified kind .I love the stuff.In fact it's the only oj I

really like because it doesn't taste like fruit syrup to me.Most juices from

concentrate taste like that to me.

 

Tracy Childs <tracychilds wrote:

Have you tried Blue Diamond Almond Breeze chocolate? My kids LOVE this

stuff. Problem is, it's not organic and negligible protein, but 20% calcium.

My 2 kids will drink the whole container in one sitting if I let them which

says a lot for my son who does not like milky drinks much. Every day I try

to get some soy milk hot chocolate into him for breakfast to provide some

calcium and protein.

 

Also, the fortified OJ is a great thing. We usually have this at dinner

time. I just wish I could find an organic frozen concentrate which is

calcium fortified! For now it's Minute Maid Blends. They love the orange

passion fruit! Lots of sugar, to be sure, but my kids (14 and 9) are

athletes so I don't worry too much about natural sugar. Just trying to cut

down on the candy!

 

Tracy

 

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" Kelly Weyd " <kellmar98

 

Saturday, November 20, 2004 4:43 PM

Re: calcium

 

 

 

 

My girls don't like rice or almond milk.

kelly

 

c l m <whovilleabc wrote:

 

If it is the soy you are trying to avoid, and not the sugar, then I

would look to rice milk and almond milk. You can get both that have

been fortified with the same amount of calcium as soy or cows milk.

hth

Cindy

 

 

 

 

 

The all-new My - Get yours free!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at

http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to

http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to

provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a

qualified health professional.

 

edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health

professional.

 

 

 

 

 

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I am hoping to start raising my 13mth old daughter vegan as I've recently

started myself though I think I will also feed her eggs, only free range

(guaranteed if I can find it) because of the B12 necessity. I will be looking

into more resourses so will share any of interest that I come across, I think I

will get the " How it all vegan " for myself and see if there is good info on

nutrition for children in that.

 

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a great book is " super baby food " by ruth yaron and any of the micheal

klaper,m.d. books. I wish I would have had the super baby food when sofyea was a

baby. also- yaron has other great books for raising vegan babies. they do have

free range eggs at health food stores. you have to be vareful though- a lot

claim to be free range and cruelty free but have found to be the total opposite.

good luck!! c

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Thursday, November 25, 2004 10:57 AM

Re: calcium

 

 

 

 

I am hoping to start raising my 13mth old daughter vegan as I've recently

started myself though I think I will also feed her eggs, only free range

(guaranteed if I can find it) because of the B12 necessity. I will be looking

into more resourses so will share any of interest that I come across, I think I

will get the " How it all vegan " for myself and see if there is good info on

nutrition for children in that.

 

Shawna

 

 

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Hi there,

 

I have " How it All Vegan " and love it but I would recommend " Becoming Vegan "

by Vesanto or " Becoming Vegetarian " by Vesanto I have Becoming Vegetarian

and it is mostly vegan (any dairy has a vegan alternate) and it has lots of

good nutritional info. I also have Cooking Vegetarian by the same author

and a chef and it has a good amount of nutritional info at the beginning as

well and then lots of recipes. My hubbie actually owned the Becoming... and

I had the Cooking... I guess it was a marriage made in heaven. :)

 

Jacqueline

 

 

shawna bay [shawnabay]

November 25, 2004 11:57 AM

 

Re: calcium

 

 

 

I am hoping to start raising my 13mth old daughter vegan as I've recently

started myself though I think I will also feed her eggs, only free range

(guaranteed if I can find it) because of the B12 necessity. I will be

looking into more resourses so will share any of interest that I come

across, I think I will get the " How it all vegan " for myself and see if

there is good info on nutrition for children in that.

 

Shawna

 

 

 

 

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VRG has a pretty good book on veganism entitled: Vegan Handbook. It's

edited by Debra Wasserman and Reed Mangels Ph.D., R.D. Debra Wasserman is,

of course one of the co-founders of VRG and Dr. Mangels is one of the best

(if not the best) Registered Dieticians I have ever met. I recommend it to

anyone I know who is considering becoming or who is already vegan. It has

tons of nutritional info in it and some pretty good recipes too. I love

this book and refer to it any time I have questions and of course for the

yummy recipes too. You can order it through the VRG website.

 

There is also some great articles on the VRG website about calcium as well

as other nutrients we need for our bodies and in what foods we can find

them.

 

God's Peace,

Gayle

 

 

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Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:59 PM

RE: calcium

 

 

>

>

> Hi there,

>

> I have " How it All Vegan " and love it but I would recommend " Becoming

> Vegan "

> by Vesanto or " Becoming Vegetarian " by Vesanto I have Becoming

> Vegetarian

> and it is mostly vegan (any dairy has a vegan alternate) and it has lots

> of

> good nutritional info. I also have Cooking Vegetarian by the same author

> and a chef and it has a good amount of nutritional info at the beginning

> as

> well and then lots of recipes. My hubbie actually owned the Becoming...

> and

> I had the Cooking... I guess it was a marriage made in heaven. :)

>

> Jacqueline

>

>

> shawna bay [shawnabay]

> November 25, 2004 11:57 AM

>

> Re: calcium

>

>

>

> I am hoping to start raising my 13mth old daughter vegan as I've recently

> started myself though I think I will also feed her eggs, only free range

> (guaranteed if I can find it) because of the B12 necessity. I will be

> looking into more resourses so will share any of interest that I come

> across, I think I will get the " How it all vegan " for myself and see if

> there is good info on nutrition for children in that.

>

> Shawna

>

>

>

>

> The all-new My - Get yours free!

>

>

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