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Posted by: " genny_y2k " genny_y2k genny_y2k

Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:04 am (PST)

Thanks for posting this informaion. I agree and would like to remind

Everyone to be cautious taking calcium supplements. Apx.10 years ago,

As healthy as I as I was,and Vegetarian. I had a microscopic kidney

Stone that felt like a boulder. Thanks be it passed. The Dr. Told me

That almost all kidney stones are formed by excess calcium .

 

I would also like to add that excess calcium can also settle into your

joints which leads to aching joints and eventually Arthritis.

I'd like to share some old natural medicine that was given to me by a good

friend due to my aching joints everyday as I heft 45 lb bags of feed and

fill countless 1 gallon waterers around on our farm and which most days

really gimps me up.

She gave me a concoction of Raspberry Juice and Apple Cider Vinegar of which

I have been taking 1 ounce every morning. The Raspberry Juice takes away the

stinging acidic bite that Cider Vinegar has ( especially the Organic type

with the Mother). I am happy to report that after taking it for 2 1/2 weeks

that it is actually working. There is no aching neck and my shoulders,

wrists and thumbs are much better. The fruit juice can be any berry and the

mix roughly 1/2 and 1/2 though the less juice you can use the better for you

as it is really the Apple Cider Vinegar that does the job. I thought that I

could be tough and take it straight but it is pretty powerful so my mix is

probably 2/3 juice to 2/3 vinegar..

Anyway thought I would share this with the group - I lurk most of the time,

especially as my computer time is very limited usually late into the night

after a fulls days work outside. We are all getting older every year and

shall all start paying for the sins of our youth and abuses to our bodies (

be it sports or over-extending ourselves when we are young and feeling

bullet-proof). It is nice to know there are natural ways to help ease us

gracefully to a ripe old age.

I enjoy lurking here very much - and am learning much about Vegetarian

cooking. I am working my way to a healthier lifestyle food wise. I

appreciate the creativity of all who post recipes and variations - and am in

awe of all of you. Wish I had that knack - however my creative flow is

directed most strongly into designing and creating Log and Driftwood

Furniture - working with wood is my passion.

But after a long day I also enjoy well cooked and simple meals cooked from

scratch.

Thanks again and do try the Cider Vinegar if your koints ache - it is

amazing stuff,

Cheers from Black Creek on Vancouver Island,

Heather

 

 

 

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Hi Heather,

Thanks for sharing that. I've also read that drinking apple cider

vinegar helps keep mosquitoes from biting but haven't verified. I'd

love to see pics of your work - are there any in the group album?

Peace,

Diane in Seattle

 

 

, " Buffalo Bob & Bison

Heather " <cmg wrote:

>

> Posted by: " genny_y2k " genny_y2k genny_y2k

> Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:04 am (PST)

> Thanks for posting this informaion. I agree and would like to

remind

> Everyone to be cautious taking calcium supplements. Apx.10 years

ago,

> As healthy as I as I was,and Vegetarian. I had a microscopic kidney

> Stone that felt like a boulder. Thanks be it passed. The Dr. Told

me

> That almost all kidney stones are formed by excess calcium .

>

> I would also like to add that excess calcium can also settle into

your

> joints which leads to aching joints and eventually Arthritis.

> I'd like to share some old natural medicine that was given to me by

a good

> friend due to my aching joints everyday as I heft 45 lb bags of

feed and

> fill countless 1 gallon waterers around on our farm and which most

days

> really gimps me up.

> She gave me a concoction of Raspberry Juice and Apple Cider Vinegar

of which

> I have been taking 1 ounce every morning. The Raspberry Juice takes

away the

> stinging acidic bite that Cider Vinegar has ( especially the

Organic type

> with the Mother). I am happy to report that after taking it for 2

1/2 weeks

> that it is actually working. There is no aching neck and my

shoulders,

> wrists and thumbs are much better. The fruit juice can be any berry

and the

> mix roughly 1/2 and 1/2 though the less juice you can use the

better for you

> as it is really the Apple Cider Vinegar that does the job. I

thought that I

> could be tough and take it straight but it is pretty powerful so my

mix is

> probably 2/3 juice to 2/3 vinegar..

> Anyway thought I would share this with the group - I lurk most of

the time,

> especially as my computer time is very limited usually late into

the night

> after a fulls days work outside. We are all getting older every

year and

> shall all start paying for the sins of our youth and abuses to our

bodies (

> be it sports or over-extending ourselves when we are young and

feeling

> bullet-proof). It is nice to know there are natural ways to help

ease us

> gracefully to a ripe old age.

> I enjoy lurking here very much - and am learning much about

Vegetarian

> cooking. I am working my way to a healthier lifestyle food wise. I

> appreciate the creativity of all who post recipes and variations -

and am in

> awe of all of you. Wish I had that knack - however my creative flow

is

> directed most strongly into designing and creating Log and Driftwood

> Furniture - working with wood is my passion.

> But after a long day I also enjoy well cooked and simple meals

cooked from

> scratch.

> Thanks again and do try the Cider Vinegar if your koints ache - it

is

> amazing stuff,

> Cheers from Black Creek on Vancouver Island,

> Heather

>

>

>

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Thanks guys for sending me you typical diets.. Will help me a on in my own venture.. :)However have one doubt.I have very low calcium. My own doctors say that NO dairy is not an option for me.DO you think that if i stay on this diet.. and take my calcium meds regularly , it would be ok?Otherwise.. I have a hypo thyroid.. and nothing on earth seems to get my weight off.Apart from this i do not have any medical problems.. I am 39 years old.. Regards,V

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V,

Check out the article on calcium in the vegan diet by Dr. Reed Mangels, RD, Ph.D. at: http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/calcium.htm There is also much more great information on this site (www.vrg.org) concerning vegan nutrition and foods. I hope this helps.

 

God's Peace,

Gayle

 

 

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V S

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:08 AM

Calcium

 

 

 

Thanks guys for sending me you typical diets.. Will help me a on in my own venture.. :)However have one doubt.I have very low calcium. My own doctors say that NO dairy is not an option for me.DO you think that if i stay on this diet.. and take my calcium meds regularly , it would be ok?Otherwise.. I have a hypo thyroid.. and nothing on earth seems to get my weight off.Apart from this i do not have any medical problems.. I am 39 years old.. Regards,V

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You might also be interested in the Top 10 Vegan Sources

report I wrote regarding calcium, protein, and iron:

 

http://www.VeganDoneLight.com/top10

 

 

-Erin

http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

 

 

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Gayle

 

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 7:12 AM

Re: Calcium

 

 

V,

Check out the article on calcium in the vegan diet by Dr. Reed Mangels, RD,

Ph.D. at: http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/calcium.htm There is also much more

great information on this site (www.vrg.org) concerning vegan nutrition and

foods. I hope this helps.

 

God's Peace,

Gayle

 

 

-

V S

 

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:08 AM

Calcium

 

 

Thanks guys for sending me you typical diets..

Will help me a on in my own venture.. :)

However have one doubt.

I have very low calcium. My own doctors say that NO dairy is not an option

for me.

DO you think that if i stay on this diet.. and take my calcium meds

regularly , it would be ok?

Otherwise.. I have a hypo thyroid.. and nothing on earth seems to get my

weight off.

Apart from this i do not have any medical problems.. I am 39 years old..

Regards,

V

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Perhaps your doctor would be interested in what Dr. John McDougall has to say on the subject:

 

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All minerals, including calcium, come originally from the ground and enter animals through plants. Thus, plants are loaded with calcium, iron, zinc, copper, etc., and the more plants you eat the more minerals you acquire. The relationship between people and plants works so well that there has never been a case of dietary calcium deficiency ever reported – in other words, all natural diets are sufficient to meet the needs of growing children and adults (infants need breast milk). Calcium pills have a few adverse effects like constipation and inhibition of iron absorption. The most serious mistake a person can make is to believe cow's milk is a " good " and necessary source of calcium. Heart disease, cancer, type-2 diabetes, arthritis, and infectious disease are only a few of the common consequences of drinking milk from other animal species.

 

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If you’re interested in further reading, try this:

http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/feb/whenfriendsask.htm

 

Anna

 

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V S <onmission55

 

 

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:08 AM

 

Calcium

 

 

Thanks guys for sending me you typical diets..

Will help me a on in my own venture.. :)

However have one doubt.

I have very low calcium. My own doctors say that NO dairy is not an option for me.

DO you think that if i stay on this diet.. and take my calcium meds regularly , it would be ok?

Otherwise.. I have a hypo thyroid.. and nothing on earth seems to get my weight off.

Apart from this i do not have any medical problems.. I am 39 years old..

Regards,

V

 

 

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Hi V

I know you've had a few answers to this already but... if you've got

very low calcium, then NO dairy is the best thing you could do for your

bones! It may also help with your weight, if you need to lose some.

www.pcrm.org has info, written by doctors, about calcium and dairy.

Best wishes

Alice

 

On 10 Jun 2008, at 22:08, V S wrote:

 

> Thanks guys for sending me you typical diets..

> Will help me a on in my own venture.. :)

> However have one doubt.

> I have very low calcium. My own doctors say that NO dairy is not an

> option for me.

> DO you think that if i stay on this diet.. and take my calcium meds

> regularly , it would be ok?

> Otherwise.. I have a hypo thyroid.. and nothing on earth seems to get

> my weight off.

> Apart from this i do not have any medical problems.. I am 39 years

> old..

> Regards,

> V

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collard green has almost twice the calcium as milk. Plus you need vitamin D to absorb the calcium. Take a multivitamin, and get at least 20 minutes of sun a day to get your daily dose of vitamin D. Thats all I have to say about that.V S <onmission55 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:08:20 AM Calcium

 

Thanks guys for sending me you typical diets.. Will help me a on in my own venture.. :)However have one doubt.I have very low calcium. My own doctors say that NO dairy is not an option for me.DO you think that if i stay on this diet.. and take my calcium meds regularly , it would be ok?Otherwise.. I have a hypo thyroid.. and nothing on earth seems to get my weight off.Apart from this i do not have any medical problems.. I am 39 years old.. Regards,V

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The others have already had some great suggestions regarding diet and the " big

picture "

with animal protein. I am in a similar boat in that, for relatively rare genetic

reasons

leading to a connective tissue disorder, I have osteoporosis (dx. age 26). Be

sure the

calcium meds you're taking are dissolving/being absorbed properly. I buy vegan

chewable

calcium plus D2 plus K from Trader Joe's (fruit kind is vegan, chocolate kind is

NOT) and I

have found these to be much more absorbable, and much more affordable than

buying

liquid. I tried powdered kinds but it was difficult to stomach that for me.

 

Also, be sure to have your levels checked relatively regularly, both for calcium

and D. With

your diet change (and possible supplement/med change), you may need *less* and

you

don't want things going out of whack. Hopefully your doctors will understand

this and

order regular, more frequent tests as your body adjusts to its new intake.

 

Hope this helps,

--Colleen

 

, V S <onmission55 wrote:

>

> Thanks guys for sending me you typical diets..

> Will help me a on in my own venture.. :)

> However have one doubt.

> I have very low calcium. My own doctors say that NO dairy is not an option for

me.

> DO you think that if i stay on this diet.. and take my calcium meds regularly

, it would

be ok?

> Otherwise.. I have a hypo thyroid.. and nothing on earth seems to get my

weight off.

> Apart from this i do not have any medical problems.. I am 39 years old..

> Regards,

> V

>

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