Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 On 7/2/08, Mark Sutton <msutton wrote: > > Came in this month's McDougall Newsletter and it's now on my blog: > http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2008nl/jun/russert.htm > > Briefly: does a fine and respectful job of explaining why he had a heart attack Except it says " I had no chest pains, no previous symptoms of heart trouble. I thought I was healthy. How could such a catastrophe happen so suddenly to me without any warning? " and it is my understanding that Russert did have symptoms, was under a physician's care, and had been making changes to his diet at the time that he died. If so, the article is rather inaccurate and possibly a bit exploitative. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Agree to some extent. Sometimes you have to be to make a point and the point was well made.Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 On Jul 2, 2008, at 7:54 AM, Sparrow R Jones wrote: > On 7/2/08, Mark Sutton <msutton wrote: > > > > Came in this month's McDougall Newsletter and it's now on my blog: > > http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2008nl/jun/russert.htm > > > > Briefly: does a fine and respectful job of explaining why he had a > heart attack > > Except it says " I had no chest pains, no previous symptoms of heart > trouble. I thought I was healthy. How could such a catastrophe > happen so suddenly to me without any warning? " and it is my > understanding that Russert did have symptoms, was under a physician's > care, and had been making changes to his diet at the time that he > died. If so, the article is rather inaccurate and possibly a bit > exploitative. > > Sparrow > It did seem exploitative to me. I also thought it was pretty unsympathetic, with a kind of " Look how he did this to himself " finger- pointing tone. On the McDougall forums I've seen several people saying they found the interview respectful. Mark, you used the word too. How is this respectful? Molly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 > It did seem exploitative to me. I also thought it was pretty > unsympathetic, with a kind of " Look how he did this to himself " finger- > pointing tone. Dr. McDougall was equally unsympathetic when Dr. Atkins died from his head injury a few years back. Sue in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 For those of you who think respect is more important than saving additional lives... I say... sit on your respect and spin. Thank you. Carry on. Russell , Mark Sutton <msutton wrote: > > Came in this month's McDougall Newsletter and it's now on my blog: > http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2008nl/jun/russert.htm > > Briefly: does a fine and respectful job of explaining why he had a heart attack and why the only prevention/reverseal of heart disease is through a low-fat (vegan) diet. Dispels the myths of stress as a cause, exercise as part of the solution, and low cholesterol as an indicator in a brief fashion that will be useful in any discussion with a skeptic. > > FYI, Mark > http://www.soulveggie.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Dear Russell and other Contributors, Truth and respect are both important. In fact, without respect, the truth is frequently not heard. I worry that you do not feel respected. It is my impression that this group - each and every one of us - could go a long way in learning how to communicate facts and opinions respectfully and lovingly. Your contributions are valuable, and anyone leaving us would be our loss. I want to keep learning from all of the list contributors. How can I help? Janet - Russell Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:27 PM Re: Russert Posthumous Interview w/ McDougall For those of you who think respect is more important than saving additional lives... I say... sit on your respect and spin. Thank you. Carry on.Russell , Mark Sutton <msutton wrote:>> Came in this month's McDougall Newsletter and it's now on my blog:> http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2008nl/jun/russert.htm> > Briefly: does a fine and respectful job of explaining why he had a heart attack and why the only prevention/reverseal of heart disease is through a low-fat (vegan) diet. Dispels the myths of stress as a cause, exercise as part of the solution, and low cholesterol as an indicator in a brief fashion that will be useful in any discussion with a skeptic.> > FYI, Mark> http://www.soulveggie.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 This is a copy of the letter I sent to Dr. McDougall. It is self-explanatory. Dear Dr. McDougall: I am writing because I have followed and promoted your plan for years and have had a great deal of respect for you - until today. This ridiculous interview with Tim Russert is soooo unnecessary, sooo over-the-top and so incredibly disrespectful that I am appalled and surprised. Russert was tending to his cardiac condition, albeit, most likely, too little - too late; however, I, too, am a healer and this interview blames the patient, a dead one no less. This blame gets nowhere with those who truly need direction and help. Of course, we need to take personal responsibility for our well-being, but what does it serve you or the community to denigrate a dead man who was, in fact, doing his best as he knew it. The interview is overwhelmingly childish and an apology to your readers and patients is called for, as well as an apology to the Russert family. Also, it's a good idea to get your facts straight before you go ahead and accuse a deceased person of being personally guilty of his own demise. Sincerely, Shen Robinson, N.D., D.D. CtTFT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 shenoa wrote: > This is a copy of > the letter I sent to Dr. McDougall. It is self-explanatory. > > Dear Dr. McDougall: I am writing because I have followed and promoted > your plan for years and have had a great deal of respect for you - > until today. This ridiculous interview with Tim Russert is soooo > unnecessary, sooo over-the-top and so incredibly disrespectful that I > am appalled and surprised. Russert was tending to his cardiac > condition, albeit, most likely, too little - too late; however, I, > too, am a healer and this interview blames the patient, a dead one no > less. This blame gets nowhere with those who truly need direction and > help. /Of course/, we need to take personal responsibility for our > well-being, but what does it serve you or the community to denigrate > a dead man who was, in fact, doing his best as he knew it. The > interview is overwhelmingly childish and an apology to your readers > and patients is called for, as well as an apology to the Russert > family. *_Also_*, it's a good idea to get your facts straight before > you go ahead and accuse a deceased person of being personally guilty > of his own demise. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Exactly. You are my hero of the day, Shen. Okay, now on topic. I got the Artisan Bread in Five Minutes book, and their main stored-dough recipe is not just vegan and fat-free, but it's really easy and quite yummy. (A little too much salt for us, but that's easily fixed.) I recommend it, and I'll write to the list when I've tried a whole-grain version. Serene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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