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>Esselstyn's diet is design for people with serious heart disease.

 

Nope, Esselstyn's diet recommendations are not just for people with heart

disease (although his recommendations about avocados and nuts are). He does use

tofu, but in his book, usually only for desserts.

 

His broader diet recommendations reverse and effectively PREVENT heart disease.

That's clear in his book, from his lectures, and from interviews (including the

one I did). He's explained the mechanism of how the plaques form and, more

importantly, how to keep them from forming. Current " modern " science can't do

the latter and may not fully understand the former.

 

I don't think it's correct to describe Essy's diet as designed for people with

heart disease. Besides, maybe if they'd know about it beforehand, and followed

it, they wouldn't have the problem in the first place.

 

McDougall and Ornish (although he's not necessarily recommending vegan) are

fairly close to Essy. I take issue with Fuhrman on a couple of things in his

dietary recommendations/justifications, and this list isn't the place to voice

it all. Also, I don't begrudge anyone making money off products, but I do like

that Esselstyn hasn't got any more product than a book. Among other things,

Ornish has (or had?) his own line of insipid-tasting frozen foods). And I gotta

wonder about anyone spending this much money to buy a flavored vinegar or

" ground nut balls " (especially since they are so easy to make yourself):

 

http://www.drfuhrman.com/shop/foodkitchen.aspx

 

.... but, to each their own.

 

Personally, I'll use nuts, avocado, and tofu, every so often, just not in excess

(and for me, not every day). I've been following Essy's approach for around 17

months now, and since he's noted that heart disease reversal happens in about 3

to 4 weeks, I'm comfortable that all's well.

 

Now if diet only worked on the friggin' poison ivy I keep getting..... Best,

Mark

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Mark,

I love Essy's book. I hope he writes a more extensive recipe book. What are the names of your favorite recipes in his book I can look up? Everyone else can go to the library and get his book like I did before I bought it. Also, what do you make of McDougall's critics saying this sort of diet causes diabetes?

Thanks for your input.

Maureen

 

 

 

Mark Sutton <msutton Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:57:32 PM Esselstyn's diet - correcting a comment

 

>Esselstyn's diet is design for people with serious heart disease.Nope, Esselstyn's diet recommendations are not just for people with heart disease (although his recommendations about avocados and nuts are). He does use tofu, but in his book, usually only for desserts.His broader diet recommendations reverse and effectively PREVENT heart disease. That's clear in his book, from his lectures, and from interviews (including the one I did). He's explained the mechanism of how the plaques form and, more importantly, how to keep them from forming. Current "modern" science can't do the latter and may not fully understand the former.I don't think it's correct to describe Essy's diet as designed for people with heart disease. Besides, maybe if they'd know about it beforehand, and followed it, they wouldn't have the problem in the first place.McDougall and Ornish (although he's not necessarily recommending vegan) are fairly

close to Essy. I take issue with Fuhrman on a couple of things in his dietary recommendations/ justifications, and this list isn't the place to voice it all. Also, I don't begrudge anyone making money off products, but I do like that Esselstyn hasn't got any more product than a book. Among other things, Ornish has (or had?) his own line of insipid-tasting frozen foods). And I gotta wonder about anyone spending this much money to buy a flavored vinegar or "ground nut balls" (especially since they are so easy to make yourself):http://www.drfuhrma n.com/shop/ foodkitchen. aspx... but, to each their own.Personally, I'll use nuts, avocado, and tofu, every so often, just not in excess (and for me, not every day). I've been following Essy's approach for around 17 months now, and since he's noted that heart disease reversal happens in about 3 to 4

weeks, I'm comfortable that all's well.Now if diet only worked on the friggin' poison ivy I keep getting..... Best, Mark

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Hi! I wanted to go to the library out here in nashua NH and take out Essys book but I need the name of the book and author??? HELP--- On Thu, 7/24/08, maureen smith <maureensgardengrotto wrote:

maureen smith <maureensgardengrottoRe: Esselstyn's diet - correcting a comment Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 6:02 PM

 

 

 

 

Mark,

I love Essy's book. I hope he writes a more extensive recipe book. What are the names of your favorite recipes in his book I can look up? Everyone else can go to the library and get his book like I did before I bought it. Also, what do you make of McDougall's critics saying this sort of diet causes diabetes?

Thanks for your input.

Maureen

 

 

 

Mark Sutton <msutton (AT) soulveggie (DOT) com>Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:57:32 PM Esselstyn's diet - correcting a comment

 

>Esselstyn's diet is design for people with serious heart disease.Nope, Esselstyn's diet recommendations are not just for people with heart disease (although his recommendations about avocados and nuts are). He does use tofu, but in his book, usually only for desserts.His broader diet recommendations reverse and effectively PREVENT heart disease. That's clear in his book, from his lectures, and from interviews (including the one I did). He's explained the mechanism of how the plaques form and, more importantly, how to keep them from forming. Current "modern" science can't do the latter and may not fully understand the former.I don't think it's correct to describe Essy's diet as designed for people with heart disease. Besides, maybe if they'd know about it beforehand, and followed it, they wouldn't have the problem in the first place.McDougall and Ornish (although he's not necessarily recommending vegan) are fairly

close to Essy. I take issue with Fuhrman on a couple of things in his dietary recommendations/ justifications, and this list isn't the place to voice it all. Also, I don't begrudge anyone making money off products, but I do like that Esselstyn hasn't got any more product than a book. Among other things, Ornish has (or had?) his own line of insipid-tasting frozen foods). And I gotta wonder about anyone spending this much money to buy a flavored vinegar or "ground nut balls" (especially since they are so easy to make yourself):http://www.drfuhrma n.com/shop/ foodkitchen. aspx... but, to each their own.Personally, I'll use nuts, avocado, and tofu, every so often, just not in excess (and for me, not every day). I've been following Essy's approach for around 17 months now, and since he's noted that heart disease reversal happens in about 3 to 4

weeks, I'm comfortable that all's well.Now if diet only worked on the friggin' poison ivy I keep getting..... Best, Mark

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Susanna,

 

Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease

by Caldwell B. Esselstyn

 

http://www.vegandonelight.com/amazon/?item=1583333002

 

 

-Erin (also from NH)

http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

 

 

-

susanna belch

 

Friday, July 25, 2008 6:41 AM

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Hi! I wanted to go to the library out here in nashua NH and take out Essys

book but I need the name of the book and author??? HELP

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>What are the names of your favorite recipes in his book I can look up?

 

The banana bread!

 

http://geocities.com/sue_in_nj/bestbanabread.htm

 

Mary McDougall once included this one in the monthly newsletter and it's

been our family favorite ever since. Even in this summer heat it's worth

lighting the oven to make.

 

 

>Also, what do you make of McDougall's critics saying this sort of diet

causes diabetes?

 

I no longer argue with the low-carb pushers, including my doc. I just

grit my teeth and wait for them to all go away. They were *almost*

gone - even the guy who runs the Livin' the Vida Low Carb web site was

told by his publisher that low carb is out and wouldn't publish his

cookbook - but now thanks to the Israeli study (the one paid for by

Atkins) that the media is saying proves low-carb diets are best, I have

a feeling it's all going to come back again.

 

 

Sue in NJ

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>I wanted to go to the library out here in nashua NH and take out Essys

book but I need the name of the book and author??? HELP

 

 

Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease: The Revolutionary, Scientifically

Proven, Nutrition-based Cure

 

Caldwell B. Esselstyn

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i loved this book, having bought it on reccomendations from this list. The

recipes were

great at the end and we've used quite a lot of them so far although I haven't

yet got

round to the fantastic looking ginger biscuits. We are still using some nuts

though, as

we don't have heart disease and I like nuts, but my hubby used to cover his

bread thickly

with olive oil, thinking it was healthy and we have stopped all that now. I'm

still

adjusting and didn't do too well when eating out last week. There were fat free

options,

salads etc, but I crumbled a bit and had curry one day and a pasta dish which

had olive

oil in. it was a holiday week, but I doubt Esselstein would think that an

acceptible

excuse. Maybe we'll do better next time. At least I picked the rice, not the

fries, but

that's not really the point, I know.

Shell.

 

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" Mark Sutton " <msutton

 

Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:57 PM

Esselstyn's diet - correcting a comment

 

 

> >Esselstyn's diet is design for people with serious heart disease.

>

> Nope, Esselstyn's diet recommendations are not just for people with heart

disease

> (although his recommendations about avocados and nuts are). He does use tofu,

but in

> his book, usually only for desserts.

>

> His broader diet recommendations reverse and effectively PREVENT heart

disease. That's

> clear in his book, from his lectures, and from interviews (including the one I

did).

> He's explained the mechanism of how the plaques form and, more importantly,

how to keep

> them from forming. Current " modern " science can't do the latter and may not

fully

> understand the former.

>

> I don't think it's correct to describe Essy's diet as designed for people with

heart

> disease. Besides, maybe if they'd know about it beforehand, and followed it,

they

> wouldn't have the problem in the first place.

>

> McDougall and Ornish (although he's not necessarily recommending vegan) are

fairly close

> to Essy. I take issue with Fuhrman on a couple of things in his dietary

> recommendations/justifications, and this list isn't the place to voice it all.

Also, I

> don't begrudge anyone making money off products, but I do like that Esselstyn

hasn't got

> any more product than a book. Among other things, Ornish has (or had?) his

own line of

> insipid-tasting frozen foods). And I gotta wonder about anyone spending this

much money

> to buy a flavored vinegar or " ground nut balls " (especially since they are so

easy to

> make yourself):

>

> http://www.drfuhrman.com/shop/foodkitchen.aspx

>

> .... but, to each their own.

>

> Personally, I'll use nuts, avocado, and tofu, every so often, just not in

excess (and

> for me, not every day). I've been following Essy's approach for around 17

months now,

> and since he's noted that heart disease reversal happens in about 3 to 4

weeks, I'm

> comfortable that all's well.

>

> Now if diet only worked on the friggin' poison ivy I keep getting..... Best,

Mark

>

 

 

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Thank you for the info will go to library to get book!--- On Fri, 7/25/08, Erin <truepatriot wrote:

Erin <truepatriotRe: Esselstyn's diet - correcting a comment Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 7:16 AM

 

 

Susanna,Prevent and Reverse Heart Diseaseby Caldwell B. Esselstynhttp://www.vegandon elight.com/ amazon/?item= 1583333002-Erin (also from NH)http://www.zenpawn. com/vegblog- susanna belchFriday, July 25, 2008 6:41 AMRe: Esselstyn's diet - correcting a commentHi! I wanted to go to the library out here in nashua NH and take out Essys book but I need the name of the book and author??? HELP

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