Guest guest Posted January 1, 1970 Report Share Posted January 1, 1970 Hi Ruth I turned vegan from omnivore in 2004. I'm very very grateful I did! I feel so much healthier and my conscience is much clearer. I don't believe any animal products are good for our health, but I do believe dairy products to be particularly bad. I certainly lost a few excess pounds as soon as I stopped eating cheese! You don't need to eat soy to enjoy a healthy plant-based diet. There are so many different types of beans and nuts and seeds and veges. I was listening to the Compassionate Cooks podcast the other day (I highly recommend this!!!) and Colleen was saying there are more than 1000 varieties of edible leafy green. Amazing, huh? Best wishes Alice On 30 Jul 2008, at 23:05, Ruth and Jeff wrote: > n answer to Alice, we're not big on eating animals and we're trying > to eat healthy while loosing weight. All that combined has made us > considering taking the last step to vegan or at least vegetarian where > we can guarantee that the products we buy come from well treated > animals. As for what we like to eat none of us like tofu and I'm not > supposed to eat soy. That's why I said that I doubt we'll be able to > pull this off but we're going to try anyways. Hopefully, liking beans > will be enough. > -Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I'm new to the vegan sites because I don't think I'll ever make it work for me but am hoping that maybe over time I'll collect enough recipes that it will work. In my perusing through recipes I keep seeing nutritional yeast as an ingredient. Would someone please explain to me what the merits of this ingredient are? Does it add flavor or just nutrition? If it does add flavor what does it taste like? Honestly, the idea of adding lots of yeast doesn't sound wonderful if it tastes like the yeast I'm used to. -Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hi Ruth Welcome! Nutritional yeast adds a kinda salty, cheesey flavour. I love it! It's also full of B vitamins. It tastes nothing like the yeast you use to make bread... but I can understand your confusion! It's quite a strong flavour, so I'd recommend just adding small sprinkles of it to your food initially. What sort of food do you like to eat? What's made you interested in a vegan diet? Best wishes Alice (in Auckland, NZ) On 30 Jul 2008, at 13:12, Ruth and Jeff wrote: > I'm new to the vegan sites because I don't think I'll ever make it > work for me but am hoping that maybe over time I'll collect enough > recipes that it will work. In my perusing through recipes I keep > seeing nutritional yeast as an ingredient. Would someone please > explain to me what the merits of this ingredient are? Does it add > flavor or just nutrition? If it does add flavor what does it taste > like? Honestly, the idea of adding lots of yeast doesn't sound > wonderful if it tastes like the yeast I'm used to. > -Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I wasn't sure about buying nutritional yeast, as I don't like the yeast spreads like marmite. However, it is such a lovely taste that I think you should give it a try. It doesn't taste like other yeast things I have had before and is quite cheesy. i have just finished my first tub and will certainly be buying some more. I could eat it straight out of the tub it was so lovely and made my fat free humus very nice. I have no idea what it's supposed to offer nutritionally, but as added taste it's wonderful. Shell. - " Ruth and Jeff " <tyrianus2000 Wednesday, July 30, 2008 2:12 AM Nutritional Yeast I'm new to the vegan sites because I don't think I'll ever make it work for me but am hoping that maybe over time I'll collect enough recipes that it will work. In my perusing through recipes I keep seeing nutritional yeast as an ingredient. Would someone please explain to me what the merits of this ingredient are? Does it add flavor or just nutrition? If it does add flavor what does it taste like? Honestly, the idea of adding lots of yeast doesn't sound wonderful if it tastes like the yeast I'm used to. -Ruth -- Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1575 - Release 7/26/2008 4:18 PM -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1914 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hi Ruth, Nutritional Yeast is not only a flavor enhancer but used by many vegans for its nutritional benefits also. It imparts a cheesy flavor (though some would say smoky) in whatever it is used. In small amounts, you really can't tell it's in the food (such as French Toast recipes that call for a Tbls or two in the ingredients) but in larger doses you can. I use it in quite a lot of what I make that is savory. Check out this website: http://www.bulkfoods.com/yeast.htm for more info including the nutritional information. Click on the link at the bottom of the page for the nutritional information. BTW, if you buy nutritional yeast, try to get the brands that say "vegetarian support formula" on the container or bin if buying bulk (the most inexpensive way to buy it in my area, however not necessarily the best since it is best to store the yeast in a cool, dry place away from light and bulk bins don't provide this). I have gotten brands that are not vegetarian support formulas and have found out that they do not have the same nutritional benefits such as vitamin B-12. In Australia and New Zealand, nutritional yeast is sometimes known as "savory flakes" or savory yeast flakes". There are GMO nutritional yeasts out there so beware if you are trying to avoid GMO products. Red Star Nutritional Yeast is still non-GMO. I don't know about the other brands as this is the one I use. BTW, I am not normally a salt user (one container can last me a year), however I find that adding a bit of salt to nutritional yeast helps bring out the cheesy flavor better. Hope this helps. God's Peace, Gayle - Ruth and Jeff Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:12 PM Nutritional Yeast I'm new to the vegan sites because I don't think I'll ever make itwork for me but am hoping that maybe over time I'll collect enoughrecipes that it will work. In my perusing through recipes I keepseeing nutritional yeast as an ingredient. Would someone pleaseexplain to me what the merits of this ingredient are? Does it addflavor or just nutrition? If it does add flavor what does it tastelike? Honestly, the idea of adding lots of yeast doesn't soundwonderful if it tastes like the yeast I'm used to.-Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Thanks everyone for your help. I'll definitely try the yeast. In answer to Alice, we're not big on eating animals and we're trying to eat healthy while loosing weight. All that combined has made us considering taking the last step to vegan or at least vegetarian where we can guarantee that the products we buy come from well treated animals. As for what we like to eat none of us like tofu and I'm not supposed to eat soy. That's why I said that I doubt we'll be able to pull this off but we're going to try anyways. Hopefully, liking beans will be enough. -Ruth > > Hi Ruth > Welcome! > Nutritional yeast adds a kinda salty, cheesey flavour. I love it! It's > also full of B vitamins. It tastes nothing like the yeast you use to > make bread... but I can understand your confusion! > It's quite a strong flavour, so I'd recommend just adding small > sprinkles of it to your food initially. > What sort of food do you like to eat? What's made you interested in a > vegan diet? > Best wishes > Alice (in Auckland, NZ) > > On 30 Jul 2008, at 13:12, Ruth and Jeff wrote: > > > I'm new to the vegan sites because I don't think I'll ever make it > > work for me but am hoping that maybe over time I'll collect enough > > recipes that it will work. In my perusing through recipes I keep > > seeing nutritional yeast as an ingredient. Would someone please > > explain to me what the merits of this ingredient are? Does it add > > flavor or just nutrition? If it does add flavor what does it taste > > like? Honestly, the idea of adding lots of yeast doesn't sound > > wonderful if it tastes like the yeast I'm used to. > > -Ruth > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I was wondering if I could take nut.yeast??? Cause I have a 3+allergies on brewers and bakers yeast????????--- On Wed, 7/30/08, Gayle <dilemma5 wrote: Gayle <dilemma5Re: Nutritional Yeast Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 6:43 AM Hi Ruth, Nutritional Yeast is not only a flavor enhancer but used by many vegans for its nutritional benefits also. It imparts a cheesy flavor (though some would say smoky) in whatever it is used. In small amounts, you really can't tell it's in the food (such as French Toast recipes that call for a Tbls or two in the ingredients) but in larger doses you can. I use it in quite a lot of what I make that is savory. Check out this website: http://www.bulkfood s.com/yeast. htm for more info including the nutritional information. Click on the link at the bottom of the page for the nutritional information. BTW, if you buy nutritional yeast, try to get the brands that say "vegetarian support formula" on the container or bin if buying bulk (the most inexpensive way to buy it in my area, however not necessarily the best since it is best to store the yeast in a cool, dry place away from light and bulk bins don't provide this). I have gotten brands that are not vegetarian support formulas and have found out that they do not have the same nutritional benefits such as vitamin B-12. In Australia and New Zealand, nutritional yeast is sometimes known as "savory flakes" or savory yeast flakes". There are GMO nutritional yeasts out there so beware if you are trying to avoid GMO products. Red Star Nutritional Yeast is still non-GMO. I don't know about the other brands as this is the one I use. BTW, I am not normally a salt user (one container can last me a year), however I find that adding a bit of salt to nutritional yeast helps bring out the cheesy flavor better. Hope this helps. God's Peace, Gayle - Ruth and Jeff Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:12 PM Nutritional Yeast I'm new to the vegan sites because I don't think I'll ever make itwork for me but am hoping that maybe over time I'll collect enoughrecipes that it will work. In my perusing through recipes I keepseeing nutritional yeast as an ingredient. Would someone pleaseexplain to me what the merits of this ingredient are? Does it addflavor or just nutrition? If it does add flavor what does it tastelike? Honestly, the idea of adding lots of yeast doesn't soundwonderful if it tastes like the yeast I'm used to.-Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 > Thanks everyone for your help. I'll definitely try the yeast. When you do buy it, make sure it says " nutritional " yeast and not " brewer's " yeast. Some store clerks will try tell you it's the same thing, and it most definitely is NOT. Even Mary McDougall made this mistake in some of her very early recipes (The original Health Supporting Cookbooks). Sue in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Been vegan for 20 years and never acquired a taste or actually the ability to work with tofu successfully (my fault entirely), so guess what?... I don't use it at all. That is the wonderful thing about veganism, there are hundreds or prolly even thousands of different foods to eat. But I remember what it is like when you first start out, you think quite naturally that without meat there isn't much else left. But let's stop and think about that for a second. You got your beef, your pork, your lamb, your poultry, and your fish... that's five things. On the other hand there are hundreds of different vegetables, hundreds of different grains, hundreds of different fruits, hundreds of different nuts, legumes, and on and on. Really there is much much more variety in the plant world than in the animal world. I don't expect you to take my word for it, but once you start on a vegan diet you will begin to find hundreds of different food sources. Note: If you are new to this forum or vegan forums in general, don't forget, people tend to write about the same topic until that topic is exhausted then they move on to the next, there's nothing wrong with that at all. So when you first start you might naturally think they keep talking about the same thing, in this case tofu. HA. But if you stick around and/or look thru the archives you'll see a vast variety of food topics. In fact one of the really fun and interesting things about vegans is there curiosity about and development of new sources of healthy food. Note 2: Regarding nutritional yeast, if you look up the, what is it?... 'Punk Rock Gravy' recipe (made with chick peas and nutritional yeast, among other things), and make it, you'll be sold on nutritional yeast for sure. It is delicious. Maybe someone here can help her with a link to the recipe. Yum Yum Yummericious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I agree so much with this message. There are so many different ways of doing a vegan diet too, it can be anything from a raw diet to a 100 per cent junk food diet, and everything in between. My other half thought that if he became vegan he would have to give up his morning biscuits, but was amazed at how many main stream supermarket biscuits are vegan. Some people hate tofu, other people can do 101 things with tofu. Some people are happy with a plate of veg and rice, whilst others need a vegan meal of veg burger, chips and baked beans. There really is not a single vegan diet, there is just so much scope to make it your own. Since looking for fat-free goods I have been amazed myself in the hidden fats in goods and have been pleasantly surprised in the fat free alternatives. I morned the loss of my sun dried tomatoes, but today I found out I can get vacume packed ones which need reconstituting in warm water. The results of making my own hummus have been revolutionary to me, it's so much nicer than the shop bought tubs, even the low fat one has 30g of fat in a tiny tub. My own has the advantage of being so much cheaper too. I make it in huge batches and put it in tubs in the freezer. Also, I have pretty much given up shop bought tins of veg soup, not so much because of the fat, but they are starting to taste so salty that they are getting unpleasant, and I like my salt. Again, making large batches for the freezer is the answer. I've quite a big appitite and make soups really thick with lentils and use the stick blender in the pan to thicken it up further. One of my favourite soups so far, and it sounds a bit boring. cook in a pan a grated carrot, chopped onion, couple cloves garlic and as much broccoli as you can fit, any amount will do. When it's all cooked, put all the veg in a blender with a tin of canalini beans and blend till smooth. You can add a bit of curry powder if you like or a stock cube and some salt and pepper. This is one of the most delicious soups I've ever tasted and it's so simple. To save time you can just chuck frozen broccoli in straight from the packet. Anyway, I'm wandering round too many topics, but I remember thinking too that there weren't many things to eat when becoming vegan and have found that it more frees you up to make more choices than being stuck in a rut with the same few meats. I hope you come to love it as much as I do, I did miss meat to start with too, would never have dreampt of eating a meal without meat in it, but almost 20 years have passed and now I can't believe I ever ate it at all. Cheers, Shell. - " Russell " <russp85 Wednesday, July 30, 2008 5:36 PM Re: Nutritional Yeast Been vegan for 20 years and never acquired a taste or actually the ability to work with tofu successfully (my fault entirely), so guess what?... I don't use it at all. That is the wonderful thing about veganism, there are hundreds or prolly even thousands of different foods to eat. But I remember what it is like when you first start out, you think quite naturally that without meat there isn't much else left. But let's stop and think about that for a second. You got your beef, your pork, your lamb, your poultry, and your fish... that's five things. On the other hand there are hundreds of different vegetables, hundreds of different grains, hundreds of different fruits, hundreds of different nuts, legumes, and on and on. Really there is much much more variety in the plant world than in the animal world. I don't expect you to take my word for it, but once you start on a vegan diet you will begin to find hundreds of different food sources. Note: If you are new to this forum or vegan forums in general, don't forget, people tend to write about the same topic until that topic is exhausted then they move on to the next, there's nothing wrong with that at all. So when you first start you might naturally think they keep talking about the same thing, in this case tofu. HA. But if you stick around and/or look thru the archives you'll see a vast variety of food topics. In fact one of the really fun and interesting things about vegans is there curiosity about and development of new sources of healthy food. Note 2: Regarding nutritional yeast, if you look up the, what is it?... 'Punk Rock Gravy' recipe (made with chick peas and nutritional yeast, among other things), and make it, you'll be sold on nutritional yeast for sure. It is delicious. Maybe someone here can help her with a link to the recipe. Yum Yum Yummericious. -- Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1575 - Release 7/26/2008 4:18 PM -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1917 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Another nutritional yeast question. I went to the health food store and asked for nutritional yeast. They gave me a bag that said Brewer's yeast. I said, "No, I want nutritional yeast." They said it was. So I bought it. Later in a vegan book it specifically said it is not the same thing. So last week at the same health food store I mentioned this. They said it is nutritional yeast. We debated the issue so the woman went and got her order book and pointed it out to me, that it said nutritional yeast. After a full debate she said they marked it wrong when they wrote Brewer's yeast. I don't know what to believe. Aren't they two different things? Since I never had it before I don't know what I have now. Shelley H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 > I morned the loss of my sun dried tomatoes, but today I found out I can get vacume packed ones which need reconstituting in warm water. I've never seen vacuum packed, but our chain grocery stores always have the dry sun-dried, either pre-packed in containers and occasionally in bulk. I didn't even know they came oil-packed in jars until one day I was looking for capers and saw them. I don't usually shop in that section of the store except for mustard and ketchup. >The results of making my own hummus have been > revolutionary to me, it's so much nicer than the shop bought tubs, A few weks ago when shopping with my husband he had one of those urges and insisted we grab a tub of hummus, him not wanting me to spend any more time in the kitchen than I had to in the 90+ degree heat. Even he noticed how greasy it tasted compared to what I make at home. That reminds me - I need to whir up another batch today. > make it in huge batches and put it in tubs in the freezer. I never thought to put it in the freezer. I gather there's no change in texture doing this? Also, I have pretty much given > up shop bought tins of veg soup, not so much because of the fat, but they are starting to > taste so salty that they are getting unpleasant, and I like my salt. The only ones I buy now are the " healthy " version of store brand vegetarian vegetable soup and use one can in a casserole-type recipe I got from the old McDougall recipe list on VegSource years ago. My husband and son like it but I can do without the recipe and not miss it if I don't make it for months. >I've quite a big appitite and make soups really > thick with lentils and use the stick blender in the pan to thicken it up further. Even in this heat I always have some freshly made soup in the refrigerator. I'll finish off that pea soup today for lunch and will have a batch of veggie soup ready by dinner. > When it's all cooked, put all the veg in a blender with a tin of canalini > beans and blend till smooth. You can add a bit of curry powder if you like Just some salt-free veggie bouillon powder should do it. Thanks! > To save time you can just chuck frozen broccoli in straight from the packet. That's how I use it in soups and stews. Fresh, even in-season, is too expensive and has to much waste. > Anyway, I'm wandering round too many topics, but I remember thinking too that there weren't many things to eat when becoming vegan and have found that it more frees you up to make more choices than being stuck in a rut with the same few meats. My family has remarked many a time that we rarely repeat a dinner, even when it's a recipe we all love, except for our weekly pizza and burger nights, that is. There are just so many great recipes out there, and I own so many vegan cookbooks, it would be a shame not to sample them all. Sue in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 >I don't know what to believe. Aren't they two different things? Since I never had it before I don't know what I have now. Nutritional yeast is usually bright yellow and looks like flakes. If you ever saw old fashioned soap flakes, like the Ivory Snow clothing soap, you'll know what I mean. Some of it may be powdered from being shaken around, or it may just come in a powdered form. All the brewers yeast I've ever seen looks like the instant bread year that you can buy in packets or jars. It looks like tiny beads. The color is also different than nutritional yeast and is more in the brown and beige family. This is an example of the flakes of nutritional yeast: http://www.all-creatures.org/recipes/images/i-yeast-nutr.jpg but the color is usually more like this one: http://www.vnfnutrition.com/phpshop/assetts/images/shop/product/03a231c9e4990506c175ff7b48795afb.jpg Brewer's yeast looks like this: http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/743/115919.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 I have found absolutely no change in the texture of the hummus after it has been frozen. I usually make up about 4 or 5 tins of beans, often mixing chick peas with canalini beans, which lowers the calories and makes it smoother. We were only remarking last night that things we used to like that are high fat are becoming less appealing as our taste buds change, just like stopping having sugar in coffee. I'm so pleased we started eating this way, I try lots of things to try and get my weight down, but this has been the easiest and most pleasureable thing so far that has made the biggest difference. Last month I didn't do too well and frequently over ate, but the weight gain was minimal, just a couple of pounds. Although I failed on amounts, I stuck to the Ornish/esselstyn fat level and I can tell you that with a 20 year history of weight struggles, if I was eating my before diet of fatty foods, it would have been about a 10 pounds gain. So, I'm absolutely thrilled and feel that not too much damage was done and it won't take long to get those 2 little pounds off and begin loosing again. I really did feel that I over ate the usual amount of food that I do when I'm struggling so was astounded at the minimal amount of weight gained. So, although I binged a bit on toast, I had my low fat hummus on instead of thick soy margarine and soy cheese, and when I had a pile of chips for tea, it wasn't from the chip shop, I just put my own in the oven, no oil at all and they were lovely. i'm not saying the out of control eating was a good thing, but it's made me feel differently and more hopeful that I might one day get to grips with things and I'm not starting so many steps back this time and I'm also thinking that perhaps I can eat a little more and still lose weight. Shell. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1923 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Sue in NJ, Thanks for the pics of nutritional yeast vs Brewer's yeast. It really helped a lot. It looks like I really do have nutritional yeast like the lady at the store told me. They labeled it incorrectly. So now I have to figure out what to do with it! Shelley H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 >So now I have to figure out what to do with it! Just go to any search engine, like http://www.google.com and search for uncheese or nutritional yeast recipes and you'll find loads of them. Sue in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Hi everyone, Just wanted to mention that I love nutritional yeast, but I think I had a reaction from eating too much at one time. My elbows, nose, and knees turned bright red, hot and itchy. If I only eat a little I don't have that. Anyone else have any reaction or anything? Take care, Jodi , " Sue in NJ " <sue_in_nj wrote: > > >So now I have to figure out what to do with it! > > > Just go to any search engine, like http://www.google.com and search for > uncheese or nutritional yeast recipes and you'll find loads of them. > > > Sue in NJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 I have also had an allergic reaction to nutritional yeast and agree that it was probably because I consumed too much at one time. I am very careful to restrict my use to about 1 - 2 Tbs at a meal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 I haven't had that reaction, Jodi. It's possible your reaction is from the B vitamin, niacin, in the nutritional yeast. Some people react to it. Guess you learned the hard way to limit the amount you eat. Hopefully you can still enjoy it in limited quanity.Best regards,Marthajodi1.geo <jeisenstein Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 10:41:26 AM Re: Nutritional Yeast Hi everyone, Just wanted to mention that I love nutritional yeast, but I think I had a reaction from eating too much at one time. My elbows, nose, and knees turned bright red, hot and itchy. If I only eat a little I don't have that. Anyone else have any reaction or anything? Take care, Jodi , "Sue in NJ" <sue_in_nj@. ..> wrote: > > >So now I have to figure out what to do with it! > > > Just go to any search engine, like http://www.google. com and search for > uncheese or nutritional yeast recipes and you'll find loads of them. > > > Sue in NJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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