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" Our body does not need a lot of vitamin B12. What we stored in our liver prior

to becoming a vegetarian can supply our body's need for several years. " Well,

this is what I heard at a nutrition convention. If this is true, a new

vegetarian should not worry too much about the shortage. I hope someone

knowledgeable in this area can comment and correct me if I am wrong.

 

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At 02:29 pm 16/06/08 +0000, you wrote:

> " Our body does not need a lot of vitamin B12. What we stored in our

>liver prior to becoming a vegetarian can supply our body's need for

>several years. " Well, this is what I heard at a nutrition

>convention. If this is true, a new vegetarian should not worry too

>much about the shortage. I hope someone knowledgeable in this area

>can comment and correct me if I am wrong.

 

I don't know if it's true *enough* to be counted on, but nobody

who's been vegan less than 5 years is likely to have little enough

B12 to have symptoms. Every study I've seen that shows a clinical

(i.e. symptomatic) deficiency has been vegan for at least that

long. That does *not* necessarily mean it's good to count on it, though. :)

 

>Also, are there additional vitamin shortages when you take out the dairy?

 

The B12 *is* the shortage you need to worry about if you are

vegan. It is widely available from all animal sources, including

dairy or eggs. Unless you stop eating both (or nearly stop), you

don't have to worry about B12.

 

Without dairy, you need to work harder at getting

calcium. However, if you eat no dairy or eggs, your diet has much

less protein. Higher protein levels in the diet (as in *too much* in

the SAD) cause an increase in the need for calcium. It is a lot

harder to get enough calcium in a dairy-free diet that includes meat

or eggs than in one that doesn't. Among the best sources of calcium

from non-animal sources are sesame and almonds. Almond milk is

nutritionally an excellent replacement for dairy milk; it has

calcium, protein, and riboflavin--the main 3 nutrients of dairy.

 

Green leafy vegetables also contain calcium. Many of them,

however, also contain oxalic acid which interferes with mineral

absorption (at least calcium and iron). Spinach is one of the ones

with relatively high levels of oxalic acid. Kale is low in oxalic

acid. So spinach is *not* a good source of dietary calcium (nor

iron), despite its reputation. Beyond spinach and kale, there is a lot of

disagreement over which vegetables have high or low levels of oxalic

acid; I haven't been able to find reliable information that isn't

disputed by equally reliable information that says the opposite.

 

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I think you are correct - I read the same on VeganHealth.org. I highly

recommend reading VeganHealth.org articles on B12 and other health

items for vegans!

--Pamela

 

, Joshua Gan

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> " Our body does not need a lot of vitamin B12. What we stored in our

liver prior to becoming a vegetarian can supply our body's need for

several years. " Well, this is what I heard at a nutrition convention.

If this is true, a new vegetarian should not worry too much about the

shortage. I hope someone knowledgeable in this area can comment and

correct me if I am wrong.

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I just wanted to start by saying good afternoon. Next, I just say

something disturbing about us vegans. On CNN, they had a medical

report about us not getting enough B12 in our diet, and this leads to

brain shrinkage. I know that B12 is found in nature, and that animal

eaters get their B12 by eating vegetarian animals who produce the

bacteria. I've also heard from a friend on Youtube.com that you can

find B12 in creek waters because it grows naturally in shaded moist

areas. Also vegetarian animals get it two in the plants they eat

because the bacteria naturally grows on the skin of grass and plants.

Because we rinse the dirt off our foods we also rinse off the bacteria

that produces B12, but the bacteria can be grown, and it can be

supplemented with vitamins, nutritional yeast, and etc. Of course we

vegans already knew the risks of not getting our vitamins and

minerals. It was on CNN this morning. So what do you all think?

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Haha! Funny... brains that shrink *rofl*Some of the smartest people I know are vegan and they don't take supplements and they've been vegan for years and years... so I really don't buy the 'brain shrinking' thing.

I think it's just another way for the meat industry to influence people to keep eating meat.... scare tactics... most people fall for it...Just my honest opinion of course...Kris

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 8:25 PM, candyazz28 <candyazz28 wrote:

 

 

 

 

I just wanted to start by saying good afternoon. Next, I just say

something disturbing about us vegans. On CNN, they had a medical

report about us not getting enough B12 in our diet, and this leads to

brain shrinkage. I know that B12 is found in nature, and that animal

eaters get their B12 by eating vegetarian animals who produce the

bacteria. I've also heard from a friend on Youtube.com that you can

find B12 in creek waters because it grows naturally in shaded moist

areas. Also vegetarian animals get it two in the plants they eat

because the bacteria naturally grows on the skin of grass and plants.

Because we rinse the dirt off our foods we also rinse off the bacteria

that produces B12, but the bacteria can be grown, and it can be

supplemented with vitamins, nutritional yeast, and etc. Of course we

vegans already knew the risks of not getting our vitamins and

minerals. It was on CNN this morning. So what do you all think?

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I agree with you... and everything you said... wait.. what was it you were saying..?... help I'm shrinking, I'm shrinking...my brain is shrinking...lol

Russ

, "Kris Russel" <kris.russel wrote:>> Haha! Funny... brains that shrink *rofl*> Some of the smartest people I know are vegan and they don't take supplements> and they've been vegan for years and years... so I really don't buy the> 'brain shrinking' thing.> I think it's just another way for the meat industry to influence people to> keep eating meat.... scare tactics... most people fall for it...> > Just my honest opinion of course...> > Kris> > On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 8:25 PM, candyazz28 candyazz28 wrote:> > > I just wanted to start by saying good afternoon. Next, I just say> > something disturbing about us vegans. On CNN, they had a medical> > report about us not getting enough B12 in our diet, and this leads to> > brain shrinkage. I know that B12 is found in nature, and that animal> > eaters get their B12 by eating vegetarian animals who produce the> > bacteria. I've also heard from a friend on Youtube.com that you can> > find B12 in creek waters because it grows naturally in shaded moist> > areas. Also vegetarian animals get it two in the plants they eat> > because the bacteria naturally grows on the skin of grass and plants.> > Because we rinse the dirt off our foods we also rinse off the bacteria> > that produces B12, but the bacteria can be grown, and it can be> > supplemented with vitamins, nutritional yeast, and etc. Of course we> > vegans already knew the risks of not getting our vitamins and> > minerals. It was on CNN this morning. So what do you all think?> >> > > >>

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Shannon, if you are using a fortified yeast like Red Star, that may be giving

you enough. If the brand doesn't have fortified on the label, than it's not.

Only yeasts that are supplemented are a source of B12. You may be getting some

B12 from other fortified vegan products like soy and rice milks. You're right,

the question of how much you are getting is always a concern when relying on

fortified food products. It's definitely better than nothing but it's anybody's

guess how much you are really getting. A pharmaceutical supplement is more

reliable.

 

For anyone not taking a regular supplement, it's important to monitor your

level.

 

Human beings are able to stock-pile B12 in our livers to some extent, so when

people have eaten animal products in the past, they may have good levels stored

up. Some people have enough B12 their stored up for months, even years. This

lulls some vegans into a false sense of security though and they can suddenly

find themselves developing B12 deficiency symptoms when their stored B12 runs

out. Once stored B12 runs out, deficiency symptoms can develop pretty quickly

and lead to damage in the nervous system that isn't always completely

reversible.

 

Therefore, it's best to avoid developing deficiency in the first place. Most

vegetarian groups recommend that all their members take a reliable B12

supplement.

 

Deborah

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>You both need to be taking a B12 supplement of course, all vegans

>do. Did you know that?

 

I was wondering about this. Does nutritional yeast do the trick if

one eats enough of it? I don't take a supplement, and I recently had

my b12 level treated. It was fine, so I was thinking it must be the yeast.

 

Shannon

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