cheese-opiates-caseinProtein

[Guest guest]

ok

I would like to see some hard science about how eating cheese is

addictive as it would be related to taking opiates

It makes me think of how plastics are supposed to be releasing

estrogen like substances

so anyone have anything to share about the facts-

Thanks!

Em , Martha <mnatural22 wrote:

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> I concur with what Susan said. And I'd like to add that it's most

likely the cheese that you're " craving. " Several of the good doctors

have written about how addictive cheese is. In particular Dr.

Barnard's book Breaking the Food Seduction: The Hidden Reasons Behind

Food Cravings--And 7 Steps to End Them Naturally has a whole chapter

in it explaining the opiates in cheese. He also addresses meat

seduction in the following chapter. If you haven't already read that

book, then perhaps you can check it out from the library or order it.

I've mentioned all this to reassure you that your cravings of McDonald

cheeseburgers isn't because you're lacking protein. Yet I don't deny

your cravings are real. The good news is that they can be overcome.

>

> Martha

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> Susan Voisin <susan

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> Sunday, January 11, 2009 4:12:20 PM

> Re: Re: Protein

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> > So if there is plenty of protein in fruits & veggies, than what

> > (with

> > past attemtpts) am I craving when I break for a week of McDonalds

> > cheeseburgers. I would really like to avoid that this time around/

> > Christina

>

> In my opinion, you are craving a taste you like and that you grew up

> eating. Unless there's been some new research that I haven't heard,

> it's never been proved scientifically that what we crave has anything

> to do with nutritional deficiencies. People like to think " I'm

> craving X so I must need Y " (meat-protein, cheese-calcium, etc.), but

> I think it's just a justification for eating what they're craving. If

> you get away from a food long enough, the cravings will diminish and

> often even stop. I haven't craved a cheeseburger in over 20 years.

> But I'm sure I craved them for a while until I got to the point where

> I didn't.

>

> Susan

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[Guest guest]

Martha,

Thats fine-I don't want to discuss it with anyone just promoting the

book-meaning that I do want to discuss it with anyone that wants to.

I hope this is coming out the way I want it too.

I am seriously not trying to cause trouble here

Here is the thing

I noticed that after I had a poppy seed cake at a friends house it

really affected me.

I do KNOW that there is casomorphines in dairy but from waht I am

seeing they seem to small an amount to be addictive. In my opinion I

think cheese is addictive because it contains fat and salt.

I don't get affected by cheese the same way as poppy seed cake. It

could be because cheese contains tyramine too though which elevates

blood pressure.

 

I looked around but unfortunately all I have to get info is the

internet and of course books. I know Dr.Barnards stand on meat,dairy

and animal.

So I was trying to find hard facts on it.

Of course the bottom line is that if you find yourself addicted to

anything you should stop.

Em

, Martha <mnatural22 wrote:

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> >ok

> I would like to see some hard science about how eating cheese is

> addictive as it would be related to taking opiates

> It makes me think of how plastics are supposed to be releasing

> estrogen like substances

> so anyone have anything to share about the facts-

> Thanks!

> Em

>

> I was simply reporting what Dr. Barnard shares in his book. You

don't have to believe it. The bibliography notes at the back of the

book list at least eleven scientific references regarding milk's

opiate response in humans. That's why I suggest anyone interested

should read the book.

>

> Martha

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