RE: etiquette

[Guest guest]

I

was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I generally bring

my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to someone’s party – who I

thought was my friend. She asked me to bring a salad, because I always make

them so “yummie†– she went on to say that someone was bringing macaroni and

cheese and another person that I had thought was a friend was making a lasagna…and

she went on to say “there won’t be anything you can eatâ€. I don’t know why, it

just hit me. I did not think that what friends do to friends. Every year she

does this – offering nothing for me to eat. I find this very puzzling.

Wikipedia states “Friendship is the cooperative and supportive relationship between people…Value ..the tendency to desire what is best for the other .â€

We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have

to bring my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy.

I don’t feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to

accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time “friends†house for dinner,

is it unreasonable to expect something to eat?

How are you treated by “friends�

Jeanette

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I'm blessed to have awesome friends who always make sure I have something to eat.  I usually will take a dish with me, but the thought of being invited to someone's party who knows I'm vegan and can't be bothered to have at least one thing there I can eat is just repellent. 

 

just my two cents' worth.

 

Faith

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:57 PM, J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I generally bring my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to someone’s party – who I thought was my friend. She asked me to bring a salad, because I always make them so “yummie” – she went on to say that someone was bringing macaroni and cheese and another person that I had thought was a friend was making a lasagna…and she went on to say “there won’t be anything you can eat”. I don’t know why, it just hit me. I did not think that what friends do to friends. Every year she does this – offering nothing for me to eat. I find this very puzzling.

Wikipedia states “Friendship is the cooperative and supportive relationship between people…Value ..the tendency to desire what is best for the other .”

We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to bring my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy.

I don’t feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time “friends” house for dinner, is it unreasonable to expect something to eat?

How are you treated by “friends”?

Jeanette

 

 

 

 

-- " Let us go forward into daylight, basking in the joy Christ radiates. May we leave our failures behind, accepting instead the Savior's gifts--healing from our disappointments, refinement through our experiences, and His ultimate commendation, 'Well done, thou good and faithful servant' (Matthew 25:21). " --Kimberly Webb, Finding Daylight.

Visit my blog at http://chauceriangirl.wordpress.com/

[Guest guest]

Hi JeanetteThat sounds like a difficult situation. I mostly haven't experienced it but.... we get invited out for dinner less often now than we did before I was vegan!It is challenging for people (having to figure out what to make, and some will also see it as a challenge to their own eating habits) but as you say, friends should surely be prepared to go to a little effort to make friends feel comfortable and welcome?I guess one positive way around it it to bring along delicious vegan dishes so that you've got stuff to eat and other people can see (and taste) how delicious healthy vegan food can be.I found the book 'Living with Meat-Eaters' very illluminating on this sort of social aspect. Best wishesAlice LeonardANGEL FOOD for vegan treats: marshmallow, meringue, cheeses and creamZEST FOR LIFE vegan cooking classesPO Box 78111 Grey Lynn, Auckland, New ZealandPhone 0064 9 3764623 or 021 2964996www.facebook.com/alice.leonardAnd now, a blog: www.veganzestforlife.blogspot.comDownsize your carbon footprint and upsize your compassion: go vegan! On 5/01/2010, at 2:57 PM, J. Kavanagh wrote: I was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I generally bring my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to someone’s party – who I thought was my friend. She asked me to bring a salad, because I always make them so “yummie” – she went on to say that someone was bringing macaroni and cheese and another person that I had thought was a friend was making a lasagna…and she went on to say “there won’t be anything you can eat”. I don’t know why, it just hit me. I did not think that what friends do to friends. Every year she does this – offering nothing for me to eat. I find this very puzzling. Wikipedia states “Friendship is the cooperative and supportive relationship between people…Value ..the tendency to desire what is best for the other .”We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to bring my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy. I don’t feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time “friends” house for dinner, is it unreasonable to expect something to eat? How are you treated by “friends”? Jeanette

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I also count myself lucky in that my non-vegan friends always prepare something for me to eat. Not to do that is insensitive at best. If you had an allergy to a certain food, would they still not prepare something different for you? It almost sounds passive aggressive and I think you have every right to feel put out about it.Teri Faith Stencel <chauceriangirlTo:

Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 8:18:10 PMRe: etiquette

 

 

I'm blessed to have awesome friends who always make sure I have something to eat. I usually will take a dish with me, but the thought of being invited to someone's party who knows I'm vegan and can't be bothered to have at least one thing there I can eat is just repellent.

 

just my two cents' worth.

 

Faith

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:57 PM, J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

 

Visit my blog at http://chauceriangi rl.wordpress. com/

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That is too bad. All of my friends cater to my eating style, but I am also not the only vegan or at least vegetarian.What I find interesting and ironic, when people are diagnosed with a health condition, i.e., high blood pressure, high cholestreal, or any of the heart/blood diseases, see how fast they change their diet. The first thing they will be told by their doctor to stop is meat, dairy and salt. Or they will be one of the many that just want the pills.I think along with book clubs, their needs to be vegan clubs. I love getting together with my vegan friends and having a cooking weekend. J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 5:57:59 PMRE: etiquette

 

 

I

was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I generally bring

my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to someone’s party – who I

thought was my friend. She asked me to bring a salad, because I always make

them so “yummie†– she went on to say that someone was bringing macaroni and

cheese and another person that I had thought was a friend was making a lasagna…and

she went on to say “there won’t be anything you can eatâ€. I don’t know why, it

just hit me. I did not think that what friends do to friends. Every year she

does this – offering nothing for me to eat. I find this very puzzling. Wikipedia states “Friendship is the cooperative and supportive relationship between people…Value ..the tendency to desire what is best for the other .†We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have

to bring my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy. I don’t feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to

accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time “friends†house for dinner,

is it unreasonable to expect something to eat? How are you treated by “friends� Jeanette

[Guest guest]

And it is also interesting that the vegan dish is usually the first gone LOLFaith Stencel <chauceriangirl Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 6:18:10 PMRe: etiquette

 

I'm blessed to have awesome friends who always make sure I have something to eat. I usually will take a dish with me, but the thought of being invited to someone's party who knows I'm vegan and can't be bothered to have at least one thing there I can eat is just repellent.

 

just my two cents' worth.

 

Faith

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:57 PM, J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

I was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I generally bring my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to someone’s party – who I thought was my friend. She asked me to bring a salad, because I always make them so “yummie†– she went on to say that someone was bringing macaroni and cheese and another person that I had thought was a friend was making a lasagna…and she went on to say “there won’t be anything you can eatâ€. I don’t know why, it just hit me. I did not think that what friends do to friends. Every year she does this – offering nothing for me to eat. I find this very puzzling.

Wikipedia states “Friendship is the cooperative and supportive relationship between people…Value ..the tendency to desire what is best for the other .â€

We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to bring my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy.

I don’t feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time “friends†house for dinner, is it unreasonable to expect something to eat?

How are you treated by “friends�

Jeanette

 

 

 

 

-- "Let us go forward into daylight, basking in the joy Christ radiates. May we leave our failures behind, accepting instead the Savior's gifts--healing from our disappointments, refinement through our experiences, and His ultimate commendation, 'Well done, thou good and faithful servant' (Matthew 25:21)." --Kimberly Webb, Finding Daylight.

Visit my blog at http://chauceriangirl.wordpress.com/

[Guest guest]

We have vegan potlucks at our house every second month, it's a really good way to socialise around food without any stress - and it's been really effective at building networks and community. On 5/01/2010, at 3:56 PM, spence wrote:That is too bad. All of my friends cater to my eating style, but I am also not the only vegan or at least vegetarian.What I find interesting and ironic, when people are diagnosed with a health condition, i.e., high blood pressure, high cholestreal, or any of the heart/blood diseases, see how fast they change their diet. The first thing they will be told by their doctor to stop is meat, dairy and salt. Or they will be one of the many that just want the pills.I think along with book clubs, their needs to be vegan clubs. I love getting together with my vegan friends and having a cooking weekend.

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and where do you live?Alice Leonard <alice Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 6:59:41 PMRe: etiquette

 

We have vegan potlucks at our house every second month, it's a really good way to socialise around food without any stress - and it's been really effective at building networks and community. On 5/01/2010, at 3:56 PM, spence wrote:That is too bad. All of my friends cater to my eating style, but I am also not the only vegan or at least vegetarian.What I find interesting and ironic, when people are diagnosed with a health condition, i.e., high blood pressure, high cholestreal, or any of the heart/blood diseases, see how fast they change their diet. The first thing they will be told by their doctor to stop is meat, dairy and salt. Or they will be one of the many that just want the pills.I think along with book clubs, their needs to be vegan clubs. I love getting together with my vegan friends and having a cooking weekend.

[Guest guest]

Auckland, New Zealand. If any of you are ever in the neighbourhood on the second Saturday of an even-numbered month (ie Feb, April, etc) you'd be more than welcome to join us!! Best wishesAlice LeonardANGEL FOOD for vegan treats: marshmallow, meringue, cheeses and creamZEST FOR LIFE vegan cooking classesPO Box 78111 Grey Lynn, Auckland, New ZealandPhone 0064 9 3764623 or 021 2964996www.facebook.com/alice.leonardAnd now, a blog: www.veganzestforlife.blogspot.comDownsize your carbon footprint and upsize your compassion: go vegan! On 5/01/2010, at 4:22 PM, spence wrote: and where do you live?Alice Leonard <alice (AT) angelfood (DOT) co.nz> Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 6:59:41 PMRe: etiquette We have vegan potlucks at our house every second month, it's a really good way to socialise around food without any stress - and it's been really effective at building networks and community. On 5/01/2010, at 3:56 PM, spence wrote:That is too bad. All of my friends cater to my eating style, but I am also not the only vegan or at least vegetarian.What I find interesting and ironic, when people are diagnosed with a health condition, i.e., high blood pressure, high cholestreal, or any of the heart/blood diseases, see how fast they change their diet. The first thing they will be told by their doctor to stop is meat, dairy and salt. Or they will be one of the many that just want the pills.I think along with book clubs, their needs to be vegan clubs. I love getting together with my vegan friends and having a cooking weekend.

[Guest guest]

Fabulous! I am in Monterey, CA. If you are ever in this area, stop in for a good meal.Anyone else in Monterey?Alice Leonard <alice Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 7:24:15 PMRe: etiquette

 

Auckland, New Zealand. If any of you are ever in the neighbourhood on the second Saturday of an even-numbered month (ie Feb, April, etc) you'd be more than welcome to join us!! Best wishesAlice LeonardANGEL FOOD for vegan treats: marshmallow, meringue, cheeses and creamZEST FOR LIFE vegan cooking classesPO Box 78111 Grey Lynn, Auckland, New ZealandPhone 0064 9 3764623 or 021 2964996www.facebook.com/alice.leonardAnd now, a blog: www.veganzestforlife.blogspot.comDownsize your carbon footprint and upsize your compassion: go vegan! On 5/01/2010, at 4:22 PM, spence wrote: and where do you live?Alice Leonard <alice (AT) angelfood (DOT) co.nz>Mon, January 4, 2010 6:59:41

PMRe: etiquette We have vegan potlucks at our house every second month, it's a really good way to socialise around food without any stress - and it's been really effective at building networks and community. On 5/01/2010, at 3:56 PM, spence wrote:That is too bad. All of my friends cater to my eating style, but I am also not the only vegan or at least vegetarian.What I find

interesting and ironic, when people are diagnosed with a health condition, i.e., high blood pressure, high cholestreal, or any of the heart/blood diseases, see how fast they change their diet. The first thing they will be told by their doctor to stop is meat, dairy and salt. Or they will be one of the many that just want the pills.I think along with book clubs, their needs to be vegan clubs. I love getting together with my vegan friends and having a cooking weekend.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for mentioning the book, Alice. It sounded great, but when I went to

request it from my library it looks like the title is

Living Among Meat Eaters. Amazon had some used copies and 25 reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/Living-Among-Meat-Eaters-Vegetarians/dp/0609807439/ref=sr_\

1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1262668421 & sr=1-1

My husband is in " transition " . I need all the ideas I can get.

Teresa M.

[Guest guest]

That's the one! Sorry I misled you, I was going by memory... Best wishesAlice LeonardANGEL FOOD for vegan treats: marshmallow, meringue, cheeses and creamZEST FOR LIFE vegan cooking classesPO Box 78111 Grey Lynn, Auckland, New ZealandPhone 0064 9 3764623 or 021 2964996www.facebook.com/alice.leonardAnd now, a blog: www.veganzestforlife.blogspot.comDownsize your carbon footprint and upsize your compassion: go vegan! On 5/01/2010, at 6:17 PM, tjay1302000 wrote: Thanks for mentioning the book, Alice. It sounded great, but when I went to request it from my library it looks like the title is Living Among Meat Eaters. Amazon had some used copies and 25 reviews. http://www.amazon.com/Living-Among-Meat-Eaters-Vegetarians/dp/0609807439/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 & s=books & qid=1262668421 & sr=1-1 My husband is in "transition". I need all the ideas I can get. Teresa M.

[Guest guest]

I live in Connecticut – USA.

 

Jeanette

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of spence

Monday, January 04, 2010 10:23 PM

 

Re: etiquette

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and where do

you live?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Alice Leonard

<alice

 

Mon, January 4, 2010 6:59:41 PM

Re: etiquette

 

 

 

We have vegan potlucks at our house every second month, it's a really

good way to socialise around food without any stress - and it's been really

effective at building networks and community.

 

 

 

 

 

On 5/01/2010, at 3:56 PM, spence wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

That

is too bad. All of my friends cater to my eating style, but I am also not

the only vegan or at least vegetarian.

What I find interesting and ironic, when people are diagnosed with a health

condition, i.e., high blood pressure, high cholestreal, or any of the

heart/blood diseases, see how fast they change their diet. The first

thing they will be told by their doctor to stop is meat, dairy and salt.

Or they will be one of the many that just want the pills.

 

I think along with book clubs, their needs to be vegan clubs. I love

getting together with my vegan friends and having a cooking weekend.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you Faith, your comments mean help me feel a great deal

better. Because in addition to feeling bad, she started me thinking if

something was wrong with me that I really did not deserve someone to bother!

 

Oh the other this too, is another unfriend (someone that I

thought was a friend before that I went out of my way to help because I thought

that was what friends did) left me a nasty phone message that “I was giving up

on my friends- that I was terrible”!

 

Jeanette

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Faith Stencel

Monday, January 04, 2010 9:18 PM

 

Re: etiquette

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm blessed to have awesome friends who always make sure I

have something to eat. I usually will take a dish with me, but the

thought of being invited to someone's party who knows I'm vegan and can't be

bothered to have at least one thing there I can eat is just repellent.

 

 

 

 

 

just my two cents' worth.

 

 

 

 

 

Faith

 

 

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:57 PM, J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

I was just wondering about getting

invited for holiday parties. I generally bring my own food to be safe. However,

I was invited to someone’s party – who I thought was my friend. She asked me to

bring a salad, because I always make them so “yummie” – she went on to say that

someone was bringing macaroni and cheese and another person that I had thought

was a friend was making a lasagna…and she went on to say “there won’t be

anything you can eat”. I don’t know why, it just hit me. I did not think that

what friends do to friends. Every year she does this – offering nothing for me

to eat. I find this very puzzling.

Wikipedia states “Friendship is the cooperative and supportive relationship between

people…Value ..the tendency to

desire what is best

for the other .”

We ended up

talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to bring my own food and

felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy.

I don’t feel

that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to accommodate. If I am

being invited to a long time “friends” house for dinner, is it unreasonable to

expect something to eat?

How are you

treated by “friends”?

Jeanette

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--

" Let us go forward into daylight, basking in the joy Christ radiates. May

we leave our failures behind, accepting instead the Savior's gifts--healing

from our disappointments, refinement through our experiences, and His ultimate

commendation, 'Well done, thou good and faithful servant' (Matthew

25:21). " --Kimberly Webb, Finding Daylight.

 

Visit my blog at http://chauceriangirl.wordpress.com/

[Guest guest]

Wow!! If this is your " friend " , I wouldn't want to meet your enemy...LOL!

 

Seriously....I do know some people have no understanding of our diets (veggie, vegan, fat-free, etc) and simply get overwhelmed and don't know what to do.

Most of my friends make certain there's food for me to eat, and the few who don't know what to do always tell me upfront, so I bring food for myself. I don't have a problem with that, as it's done very nicely.

 

I vividly remember about 15 years ago, when vegetarian in my rather backward town was unheard of, going out with family to a restaurant. The menu wasn't very interesting, so we asked to see the chef and explained our food preferences.

 

He was magnificent! He prepared  incredible plates of food for me, my son , aunt and uncle. The meat-eaters sniffed and tasted and grumbled, " If I'da known he'd create that, I would have ordered it, too!!! "

 

Cool, huh??!!!

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM, J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I generally bring my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to someone’s party – who I thought was my friend. She asked me to bring a salad, because I always make them so “yummie” – she went on to say that someone was bringing macaroni and cheese and another person that I had thought was a friend was making a lasagna…and she went on to say “there won’t be anything you can eat”. I don’t know why, it just hit me. I did not think that what friends do to friends. Every year she does this – offering nothing for me to eat. I find this very puzzling.

Wikipedia states “Friendship is the cooperative and supportive relationship between people…Value ..the tendency to desire what is best for the other .”

We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to bring my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy.

I don’t feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time “friends” house for dinner, is it unreasonable to expect something to eat?

How are you treated by “friends”?

Jeanette

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sorry all about the typo’s – I am normally very careful. I guess

I am quite upset and not proof reading as I should be.

Jeanette

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of J. Kavanagh

Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:26 AM

 

RE: etiquette

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you Faith, your comments mean help

me feel a great deal better. Because in addition to feeling bad, she started me

thinking if something was wrong with me that I really did not deserve someone

to bother!

 

Oh the other this too, is another

unfriend (someone that I thought was a friend before that I went out of

my way to help because I thought that was what friends did) left me a nasty

phone message that “I was giving up on my friends- that I was terrible”!

 

Jeanette

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Faith Stencel

Monday, January 04, 2010 9:18 PM

 

Re: etiquette

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm

blessed to have awesome friends who always make sure I have something to

eat. I usually will take a dish with me, but the thought of being invited

to someone's party who knows I'm vegan and can't be bothered to have at least

one thing there I can eat is just repellent.

 

 

 

 

 

just

my two cents' worth.

 

 

 

 

 

Faith

 

 

On

Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:57 PM, J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

I was just wondering about getting

invited for holiday parties. I generally bring my own food to be safe. However,

I was invited to someone’s party – who I thought was my friend. She asked me to

bring a salad, because I always make them so “yummie” – she went on to say that

someone was bringing macaroni and cheese and another person that I had thought

was a friend was making a lasagna…and she went on to say “there won’t be

anything you can eat”. I don’t know why, it just hit me. I did not think that

what friends do to friends. Every year she does this – offering nothing for me

to eat. I find this very puzzling.

Wikipedia states “Friendship is the cooperative and supportive relationship between

people…Value ..the tendency to

desire what is best

for the other .”

We ended up

talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to bring my own food and

felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy.

I don’t feel

that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to accommodate. If I am

being invited to a long time “friends” house for dinner, is it unreasonable to

expect something to eat?

How are you

treated by “friends”?

Jeanette

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--

" Let us go forward into daylight, basking in the joy Christ radiates. May

we leave our failures behind, accepting instead the Savior's gifts--healing

from our disappointments, refinement through our experiences, and His ultimate

commendation, 'Well done, thou good and faithful servant' (Matthew

25:21). " --Kimberly Webb, Finding Daylight.

 

Visit my blog at http://chauceriangirl.wordpress.com/

[Guest guest]

I can truly relate. My own parents (who acknowledge that I have been

vegan/vegetarian all my life) will not prepare any meals that I would eat nor do

any dishes that I bring have a place on their buffet. My mother in law does

try. I have only one friend who will make something for me to eat when invited

to his house party. Other " friends " advise if I want to eat, to bring something.

Most times, it is the first dish to be gone. The " new " vegetarian in the group

is a hearty meat eater. I am located on Long Island and feel like only

vegan/vegetarian.

 

, " J. Kavanagh " <j_kavanagh wrote:

>

> Sorry all about the typo's - I am normally very careful. I guess I am quite

> upset and not proof reading as I should be.

>

> Jeanette

>

>

>

>

> On Behalf Of J. Kavanagh

> Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:26 AM

>

> RE: etiquette

>

>

>

>

>

> Thank you Faith, your comments mean help me feel a great deal better.

> Because in addition to feeling bad, she started me thinking if something was

> wrong with me that I really did not deserve someone to bother!

>

>

>

> Oh the other this too, is another unfriend (someone that I thought was a

> friend before that I went out of my way to help because I thought that was

> what friends did) left me a nasty phone message that " I was giving up on my

> friends- that I was terrible " !

>

>

>

> Jeanette

>

>

>

>

> On Behalf Of Faith Stencel

> Monday, January 04, 2010 9:18 PM

>

> Re: etiquette

>

>

>

>

>

> I'm blessed to have awesome friends who always make sure I have something to

> eat. I usually will take a dish with me, but the thought of being invited

> to someone's party who knows I'm vegan and can't be bothered to have at

> least one thing there I can eat is just repellent.

>

>

>

> just my two cents' worth.

>

>

>

> Faith

>

> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:57 PM, J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh wrote:

>

>

>

> I was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I generally

> bring my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to someone's party -

> who I thought was my friend. She asked me to bring a salad, because I always

> make them so " yummie " - she went on to say that someone was bringing

> macaroni and cheese and another person that I had thought was a friend was

> making a lasagna.and she went on to say " there won't be anything you can

> eat " . I don't know why, it just hit me. I did not think that what friends do

> to friends. Every year she does this - offering nothing for me to eat. I

> find this very puzzling.

>

> Wikipedia states " Friendship is the cooperative and supportive relationship

> between people. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_(personal_and_cultural)>

> Value ..the tendency to desire what is

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruism> best for the other . "

>

> We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to bring

> my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy.

>

> I don't feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to

> accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time " friends " house for

> dinner, is it unreasonable to expect something to eat?

>

> How are you treated by " friends " ?

>

> Jeanette

>

>

>

>

--

> " Let us go forward into daylight, basking in the joy Christ radiates. May we

> leave our failures behind, accepting instead the Savior's gifts--healing

> from our disappointments, refinement through our experiences, and His

> ultimate commendation, 'Well done, thou good and faithful servant' (Matthew

> 25:21). " --Kimberly Webb, Finding Daylight.

>

> Visit my blog at http://chauceriangirl.wordpress.com/

>

[Guest guest]

In my experience, when most folks are diagnosed with these conditions, the doctors don't tell them to get off meat, dairy and salt. The ones that do, end up prescribing drugs because the patients have no intention of changing their diet or do attempt to do so - but don't actually do the proper research themselves. These people are fully conditioned to believe that they must eat this way regardless of their health!

 

Olwen )O(--- On Mon, 1/4/10, spence <spenc5 wrote:

spence <spenc5Re: etiquette Received: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:56 PM

 

 

 

That is too bad. All of my friends cater to my eating style, but I am also not the only vegan or at least vegetarian.What I find interesting and ironic, when people are diagnosed with a health condition, i.e., high blood pressure, high cholestreal, or any of the heart/blood diseases, see how fast they change their diet. The first thing they will be told by their doctor to stop is meat, dairy and salt. Or they will be one of the many that just want the pills.I think along with book clubs, their needs to be vegan clubs. I love getting together with my vegan friends and having a cooking weekend.

 

 

 

J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 5:57:59 PMRE: etiquette

 

 

I was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I generally bring my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to someone’s party – who I thought was my friend. She asked me to bring a salad, because I always make them so “yummie†– she went on to say that someone was bringing macaroni and cheese and another person that I had thought was a friend was making a lasagna…and she went on to say “there won’t be anything you can eatâ€. I don’t know why, it just hit me. I did not think that what friends do to friends. Every year she does this – offering nothing for me to eat. I find this very puzzling.

Wikipedia states “Friendship is the cooperative and supportive relationship between people…Value ..the tendency to desire what is best for the other .â€

We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to bring my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy..

I don’t feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time “friends†house for dinner, is it unreasonable to expect something to eat?

How are you treated by “friends�

Jeanette

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I have lucked out. My family (aunt, cousins, etc)- all accept that I am

weird anyway . When we get together for holiday meals, in the house, there

are two people with Celiac disease, 3 muslims who eat no pork, my two

autistic sons, one of whom will eat nothing that is green, the other who

puts ranch dressing on everything he eats, my partner, who is an omnivore,

but will eat what I make as long as she can get meat occasionally. There are

also two people who have had gastric bypass. So, each family brings things

that someone in their family can/will eat, and we do potlucks, makes life

much easier. Its also gotten easier since my cousins have grown up and there

is less of " I'm not going to eat THAT! " . And, my kids have to at least try

stuff (even green things).

We recently celebrated my aunts 80th bday at a restaurant. The poor waiter,

who was wonderful, learned ALOT that night.

Going to my partners family's house is a bit different, but we don't have

meals there very often, and if we do, I just eat salad. They know I don't

eat meat and I just leave it at that. They are omnivores, hunters, etc. I'm

just happy my 'in-laws' like me.

I live in rural Oklahoma, and am new to the list.

Mary

 

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" ttbeachbum " <ttbeachbum

 

Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:51 AM

Re: etiquette

 

 

>I can truly relate. My own parents (who acknowledge that I have been

>vegan/vegetarian all my life) will not prepare any meals that I would eat

>nor do any dishes that I bring have a place on their buffet. My mother in

>law does try. I have only one friend who will make something for me to eat

>when invited to his house party. Other " friends " advise if I want to eat,

>to bring something. Most times, it is the first dish to be gone. The

> " new " vegetarian in the group is a hearty meat eater. I am located on Long

>Island and feel like only vegan/vegetarian.

>

> , " J. Kavanagh " <j_kavanagh

> wrote:

>>

>> Sorry all about the typo's - I am normally very careful. I guess I am

>> quite

>> upset and not proof reading as I should be.

>>

>> Jeanette

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On Behalf Of J. Kavanagh

>> Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:26 AM

>>

>> RE: etiquette

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Thank you Faith, your comments mean help me feel a great deal better.

>> Because in addition to feeling bad, she started me thinking if something

>> was

>> wrong with me that I really did not deserve someone to bother!

>>

>>

>>

>> Oh the other this too, is another unfriend (someone that I thought was a

>> friend before that I went out of my way to help because I thought that

>> was

>> what friends did) left me a nasty phone message that " I was giving up on

>> my

>> friends- that I was terrible " !

>>

>>

>>

>> Jeanette

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On Behalf Of Faith Stencel

>> Monday, January 04, 2010 9:18 PM

>>

>> Re: etiquette

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> I'm blessed to have awesome friends who always make sure I have something

>> to

>> eat. I usually will take a dish with me, but the thought of being

>> invited

>> to someone's party who knows I'm vegan and can't be bothered to have at

>> least one thing there I can eat is just repellent.

>>

>>

>>

>> just my two cents' worth.

>>

>>

>>

>> Faith

>>

>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:57 PM, J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>> I was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I

>> generally

>> bring my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to someone's party -

>> who I thought was my friend. She asked me to bring a salad, because I

>> always

>> make them so " yummie " - she went on to say that someone was bringing

>> macaroni and cheese and another person that I had thought was a friend

>> was

>> making a lasagna.and she went on to say " there won't be anything you can

>> eat " . I don't know why, it just hit me. I did not think that what friends

>> do

>> to friends. Every year she does this - offering nothing for me to eat. I

>> find this very puzzling.

>>

>> Wikipedia states " Friendship is the cooperative and supportive

>> relationship

>> between people.

>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_(personal_and_cultural)>

>> Value ..the tendency to desire what is

>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruism> best for the other . "

>>

>> We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to

>> bring

>> my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy.

>>

>> I don't feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to

>> accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time " friends " house for

>> dinner, is it unreasonable to expect something to eat?

>>

>> How are you treated by " friends " ?

>>

>> Jeanette

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> --

>> " Let us go forward into daylight, basking in the joy Christ radiates. May

>> we

>> leave our failures behind, accepting instead the Savior's gifts--healing

>> from our disappointments, refinement through our experiences, and His

>> ultimate commendation, 'Well done, thou good and faithful servant'

>> (Matthew

>> 25:21). " --Kimberly Webb, Finding Daylight.

>>

>> Visit my blog at http://chauceriangirl.wordpress.com/

>>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jeannette

 

We also must consider what this does to our friends. They value our

friendship enough to invite us , yet they must scramble around not

knowing what to cook for a vegan guest.

Try to look for an opportunity of grace and inclusiveness. Talk to her

again, ask her the menu, and offer to bring a complimentary " side dish "

that would go with the meal, omething the non vegans would enjoy

and offer to do the salad, and enjoy whatever from the table that I

can ear. Or bring a good loaf of bread,

Enjoy what you can eat, and the company, cheerfully answer questions

and provide a recipe if asked. This time of year particularly, people

are looking for a better way to eat. You could be the life of the party!

clear skies and apple pies!

lcc

 

 

J. Kavanagh wrote:

>

>

> I was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I

> generally bring my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to

> someone’s party – who I thought was my friend. She asked me to bring

> a salad, because I always make them so “yummie†– she went on to

> say that someone was bringing macaroni and cheese and another person

> that I had thought was a friend was making a lasagna…and she went on

> to say “there won’t be anything you can eatâ€. I don’t know why,

> it just hit me. I did not think that what friends do to friends. Every

> year she does this – offering nothing for me to eat. I find this very

> puzzling.

>

> Wikipedia states “*Friendship* is the cooperative and supportive

> relationship between people…Value

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_(personal_and_cultural)> ..the

> tendency to desire what is best for the other

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruism> .â€

>

> We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to

> bring my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy.

>

> I don’t feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to

> accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time “friends†house

> for dinner, is it unreasonable to expect something to eat?

>

> How are you treated by “friends�

>

> Jeanette

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would have attended with some large less-than-costly food contribution IF the friendship mattered AND the people there weren't people I'd rather not spend 1-2 hours entertaining.

 

Let me share this briefly (get this off my chest).

At a home where only vegetarians live, the lacto-vegetarian had a birthday and invited her vegetarian and nonvegetarian friends.  One of thenonvegetarian 'friends' who mames much of her FORMER association with the local vegetarian society brought the group a pasta dish sprinkled with shrimp and bacon bits, then she served it in the vegetarian's home dish (because she had brought it in plastic).

 

I think that doing this was incredibly rude and that she would better have attended without bringing food.

 

Thoughts?

m

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM, J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I generally bring my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to someone’s party – who I thought was my friend. She asked me to bring a salad, because I always make them so “yummie” – she went on to say that someone was bringing macaroni and cheese and another person that I had thought was a friend was making a lasagna…and she went on to say “there won’t be anything you can eat”. I don’t know why, it just hit me. I did not think that what friends do to friends. Every year she does this – offering nothing for me to eat. I find this very puzzling.

Wikipedia states “Friendship is the cooperative and supportive relationship between people…Value ..the tendency to desire what is best for the other .”

We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to bring my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy.

I don’t feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time “friends” house for dinner, is it unreasonable to expect something to eat?

How are you treated by “friends”?

Jeanette

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

My thoughts...? HOW RUDE!!!!!

 

If you went to a Muslim friend's home, would you bring a pork dish? If you went to a Jewish friend's home who kept Kosher, would you bring non-Kosher food?

 

You don't bring a meat/fish dish to a Vegetarian's home.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Maynard S. Clark <Maynard.Clark wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

I would have attended with some large less-than-costly food contribution IF the friendship mattered AND the people there weren't people I'd rather not spend 1-2 hours entertaining.

 

Let me share this briefly (get this off my chest).

At a home where only vegetarians live, the lacto-vegetarian had a birthday and invited her vegetarian and nonvegetarian friends.  One of thenonvegetarian 'friends' who mames much of her FORMER association with the local vegetarian society brought the group a pasta dish sprinkled with shrimp and bacon bits, then she served it in the vegetarian's home dish (because she had brought it in plastic).

 

I think that doing this was incredibly rude and that she would better have attended without bringing food.

 

Thoughts?

m

 

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM, J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I generally bring my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to someone’s party – who I thought was my friend. She asked me to bring a salad, because I always make them so “yummie” – she went on to say that someone was bringing macaroni and cheese and another person that I had thought was a friend was making a lasagna…and she went on to say “there won’t be anything you can eat”. I don’t know why, it just hit me. I did not think that what friends do to friends. Every year she does this – offering nothing for me to eat. I find this very puzzling.

 

Wikipedia states “Friendship is the cooperative and supportive relationship between people…Value ..the tendency to desire what is best for the other .”

 

We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to bring my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy.

I don’t feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time “friends” house for dinner, is it unreasonable to expect something to eat?

How are you treated by “friends”?

Jeanette

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I believe that a friendship works when YOU are giving. As in, if you want to be friends with someone, than you care about them and their feelings. Or, if I want to be friends with someone, I care about them and their feelings. I don't think it works to demand that your friend do the same.What do you consider right, respectful, generous, honest... YOU should do that and be forgiving when others don't meet your standards, cause they won't. There might be times when reminding a friend to meet his own standards will further the friendship, but I don't think it works to impose your own standards on a friend.When you're going to a party, make something that you believe others will enjoy that is in line with your values. If you're vegan and going to a non-vegan party, bring something vegan that you think others will enjoy. If someone goes to a vegan party with a meat dish... well, it wouldn't be the weirdest or least considerate thing ever done. They might even be good people.Being vegan doesn't make me a better person than a non-vegan, but it makes me a better ME... and that's not a big deal at all.Michael From: Maynard.ClarkDate: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 11:40:17 -0500Re: etiquette

 

 

 

 

I would have attended with some large less-than-costly food contribution IF the friendship mattered AND the people there weren't people I'd rather not spend 1-2 hours entertaining.

 

Let me share this briefly (get this off my chest).

At a home where only vegetarians live, the lacto-vegetarian had a birthday and invited her vegetarian and nonvegetarian friends. One of thenonvegetarian 'friends' who mames much of her FORMER association with the local vegetarian society brought the group a pasta dish sprinkled with shrimp and bacon bits, then she served it in the vegetarian's home dish (because she had brought it in plastic).

 

I think that doing this was incredibly rude and that she would better have attended without bringing food.

 

Thoughts?

m

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM, J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I generally bring my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to someone’s party – who I thought was my friend. She asked me to bring a salad, because I always make them so “yummie” – she went on to say that someone was bringing macaroni and cheese and another person that I had thought was a friend was making a lasagna…and she went on to say “there won’t be anything you can eat”. I don’t know why, it just hit me. I did not think that what friends do to friends. Every year she does this – offering nothing for me to eat. I find this very puzzling.

Wikipedia states “Friendship is the cooperative and supportive relationship between people…Value ..the tendency to desire what is best for the other .”

We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to bring my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy.

I don’t feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time “friends” house for dinner, is it unreasonable to expect something to eat?

How are you treated by “friends”?

Jeanette

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

You know what's also rude?, expecting the rest of the world to cater to your particular food lifestyle while you think you have no responsibility to show the same respect. If the people hosting the party are meat eaters, maybe quit expecting them to cater to you.

 

Seriously, this discussion is getting ridiculous.

 

Shelby "Enjoy the little things in life, for one day you may look back and realize they were the big things." - Antonio Smith

 

 

 

 

Momcat <Momcat55 Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 12:21:49 PMRe: etiquette

 

My thoughts...? HOW RUDE!!!!!

 

If you went to a Muslim friend's home, would you bring a pork dish? If you went to a Jewish friend's home who kept Kosher, would you bring non-Kosher food?

 

You don't bring a meat/fish dish to a Vegetarian's home.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Maynard S. Clark <Maynard.Clark wrote:

 

 

 

 

I would have attended with some large less-than-costly food contribution IF the friendship mattered AND the people there weren't people I'd rather not spend 1-2 hours entertaining.

 

Let me share this briefly (get this off my chest).

At a home where only vegetarians live, the lacto-vegetarian had a birthday and invited her vegetarian and nonvegetarian friends. One of thenonvegetarian 'friends' who mames much of her FORMER association with the local vegetarian society brought the group a pasta dish sprinkled with shrimp and bacon bits, then she served it in the vegetarian's home dish (because she had brought it in plastic).

 

I think that doing this was incredibly rude and that she would better have attended without bringing food.

 

Thoughts?

m

 

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM, J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I generally bring my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to someone’s party – who I thought was my friend. She asked me to bring a salad, because I always make them so “yummie†– she went on to say that someone was bringing macaroni and cheese and another person that I had thought was a friend was making a lasagna…and she went on to say “there won’t be anything you can eatâ€. I don’t know why, it just hit me. I did not think that what friends do to friends. Every year she does this – offering nothing for me to eat. I find this very puzzling.

Wikipedia states “Friendship is the cooperative and supportive relationship between people…Value ..the tendency to desire what is best for the other .â€

 

We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to bring my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy.

I don’t feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time “friends†house for dinner, is it unreasonable to expect something to eat?

How are you treated by “friends�

Jeanette

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Mary, welcome to the fat free vegan list.

 

I think hunting is more compassionate than slaughterhouses because the animal probably lived a good life and had a death that could be less traumatic than the howling and fear of watching other animals die before you at the slaughterhouse. My son hunts moose rarely when he visits a friend in another state and it is gross, but I would prefer that to unlimted grocery store meat pumped full of hormones and cows standing in their own feces and urine all day long with foot diseases. The corn they feed the cows fattens them up, but causes inflamation, stomach ulcers and overall body problems and probably pain compared to the green grass they naturally eat in the wild. I think the corn feed is less nutritious cattle food than green grass also. maybe it would be like our kids eating popcorn all day without a green salad.

There is a good DVD I got at the library called King Corn. This is about corn and how it affects us all in so many ways we are unaware of, including the cattle industry. I heard to even keep my dogs away from corn and use brown rice based foods instead or they will run hot whatever that is.

 

I did not think you were judging your in laws by any means. Just wanted people to know that hunters are not horrible people. PETA even has a video with hunters on it. The hunter lived at a PETA home for a week or two. They took him to a cattle ranch and showed him what happens. He fed a baby cow a bottle. He said he would still hunt, but would not beef from the store any longer when he realized how cruel the beef industry is to cattle. He seemed deeply saddened by the severe cruelty in the cattle industry.

 

Again, welcome to our great group.

 

Maureen

 

 

 

Mary Taylor <marywheezer Sent: Tue, January 5, 2010 7:19:55 AMRe: Re: etiquette

I have lucked out. My family (aunt, cousins, etc)- all accept that I am weird anyway . When we get together for holiday meals, in the house, there are two people with Celiac disease, 3 muslims who eat no pork, my two autistic sons, one of whom will eat nothing that is green, the other who puts ranch dressing on everything he eats, my partner, who is an omnivore, but will eat what I make as long as she can get meat occasionally. There are also two people who have had gastric bypass. So, each family brings things that someone in their family can/will eat, and we do potlucks, makes life much easier. Its also gotten easier since my cousins have grown up and there is less of "I'm not going to eat THAT!". And, my kids have to at least try stuff (even green things).We recently celebrated my aunts 80th bday at a restaurant. The poor waiter, who was wonderful, learned ALOT that night.Going to my partners

family's house is a bit different, but we don't have meals there very often, and if we do, I just eat salad. They know I don't eat meat and I just leave it at that. They are omnivores, hunters, etc. I'm just happy my 'in-laws' like me.I live in rural Oklahoma, and am new to the list.Mary- "ttbeachbum" <ttbeachbum ><>Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:51 AM Re: etiquette>I can truly relate. My own parents (who acknowledge that I have been >vegan/vegetarian all my life) will not prepare any meals that I would eat >nor do any dishes that I

bring have a place on their buffet. My mother in >law does try. I have only one friend who will make something for me to eat >when invited to his house party. Other "friends" advise if I want to eat, >to bring something. Most times, it is the first dish to be gone. The >"new" vegetarian in the group is a hearty meat eater. I am located on Long >Island and feel like only vegan/vegetarian.>> , "J. Kavanagh" <j_kavanagh@ ...> > wrote:>>>> Sorry all about the typo's - I am normally very careful. I guess I am >> quite>> upset and not proof reading as I should be.>>>> Jeanette>>>>>>>> >> []>> On Behalf Of J. Kavanagh>> Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:26 AM>> >> RE: etiquette>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Faith, your comments mean help me feel a great deal better.>> Because in addition to feeling bad, she started me thinking if something >> was>> wrong with me that I really did not deserve someone

to bother!>>>>>>>> Oh the other this too, is another unfriend (someone that I thought was a>> friend before that I went out of my way to help because I thought that >> was>> what friends did) left me a nasty phone message that "I was giving up on >> my>> friends- that I was terrible"!>>>>>>>> Jeanette>>>>>>>> >> []>> On Behalf Of Faith Stencel>> Monday, January 04, 2010 9:18 PM>> >> Re: etiquette>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm blessed to have awesome friends who always make sure I have something >> to>> eat. I usually will take a dish with me, but the thought of being >> invited>> to someone's party who knows I'm vegan and can't be bothered to have at>> least one thing there I can eat is just repellent.>>>>>>>> just my two cents' worth.>>>>>>>> Faith>>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:57 PM, J. Kavanagh <j_kavanagh@ ...> wrote:>>>>>>>> I was just wondering about getting invited for holiday parties. I

>> generally>> bring my own food to be safe. However, I was invited to someone's party ->> who I thought was my friend. She asked me to bring a salad, because I >> always>> make them so "yummie" - she went on to say that someone was bringing>> macaroni and cheese and another person that I had thought was a friend >> was>> making a lasagna.and she went on to say "there won't be anything you can>> eat". I don't know why, it just hit me. I did not think that what friends >> do>> to friends. Every year she does this - offering nothing for me to eat. I>> find this very puzzling.>>>> Wikipedia states "Friendship is the cooperative and supportive >> relationship>> between people. >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_(personal_and_ cultural) >>> Value ..the tendency to desire

what is>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altruism> best for the other .">>>> We ended up talking as I did not go. She thinks that I should have to >> bring>> my own food and felt no obligation to provide anything I could enjoy.>>>> I don't feel that a dairy free diet is all that unusual or hard to>> accommodate. If I am being invited to a long time "friends" house for>> dinner, is it unreasonable to expect something to eat?>>>> How are you treated by "friends"?>>>> Jeanette>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> "Let us go forward into daylight, basking in the joy Christ radiates. May >> we>> leave our failures behind, accepting instead the Savior's gifts--healing>> from our

disappointments, refinement through our experiences, and His>> ultimate commendation, 'Well done, thou good and faithful servant' >> (Matthew>> 25:21)." --Kimberly Webb, Finding Daylight.>>>> Visit my blog at http://chauceriangi rl.wordpress. com/>>>>>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>> Check out our recipe files at http://www.fatfreevegan.com . > Links>>>