Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 I want to thank everyone on this list who has responded to me. I have had so many great suggestions and such an outpouring of kindness... What a great group this is. I am so glad I joined. Thank you all so much. Thank you, also, to all who post such great recipes. I have quite a collection already. Thank you! Hugs, Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I agree wholeheartedly!! I remember how absolutely miserable I was for the first five years after I became a vegetarian, I didn't meet another during that time. It is definitely nice to have other people who feel the same way about at least some things. Maybe the vegetarians/vegans people get mad at for real, the ones bombing things and going apesh** are just lonely? I am quite sure that if I hadn't met more veg people by now I'd have at the very least pulled all my hair out, and I'd probably scream at people a lot more than I already do. It is maddening to be alone with that sort of opposition... especially stuff like the dinosaur argument. That should be the new slogan for the WAPers. Or just meat eaters in general. " Dinosaurs went extinct even though some were herbivores!! " The things people come up with... sigh. chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote: i just wanted to express my appreciation for this group. i am surrounded on all sides by people who vigorously defend their consumption of animal products on one or more grounds: " it tastes good " (everyone), " it's too difficult to go veg " (everyone), " we're going to die anyway so why not enjoy our food? " (my parents), " God put animals here for us to eat and commanded us to do so " (my in-laws), " the scriptures say the earth will be renewed when Christ comes, and our bodies will be perfect in the resurrection, so who cares if we destroy the earth and our bodies? " (my in-laws), " everything you think you know about animal food production is just propaganda " (everyone), and " we need animal foods to keep our bodies healthy - stop being such a mainstream brainwashed diet dictocrat " (the WAPers, which is somehow practically everyone i meet nowadays). if i didn't have this group, and my husband who feels/thinks/acts the same way i do, i would go right out of my head. thank goodness for some freaking sanity in this world!!! chandelle' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 >> " just wanted to express my appreciation for this group. i am surrounded on all sides by people who vigorously defend their consumption of animal products on one or more grounds:....thank goodness for some freaking sanity in this world!!! " amen! On 2/27/07, chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote: > > i just wanted to express my appreciation for this group. i am surrounded > on > all sides by people who vigorously defend their consumption of animal > products on one or more grounds: " it tastes good " (everyone), " it's too > difficult to go veg " (everyone), " we're going to die anyway so why not > enjoy > our food? " (my parents), " God put animals here for us to eat and commanded > us to do so " (my in-laws), " the scriptures say the earth will be renewed > when Christ comes, and our bodies will be perfect in the resurrection, so > who cares if we destroy the earth and our bodies? " (my in-laws), > " everything > you think you know about animal food production is just propaganda " > (everyone), and " we need animal foods to keep our bodies healthy - stop > being such a mainstream brainwashed diet dictocrat " (the WAPers, which is > somehow practically everyone i meet nowadays). if i didn't have this > group, > and my husband who feels/thinks/acts the same way i do, i would go right > out > of my head. thank goodness for some freaking sanity in this world!!! > > chandelle' > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Hear hear! This list is like a little oasis of clarity -- and so civil -- I am very grateful for what I have learned from all the wonderful contributors to this list. ~Paul chandelle' wrote: > > > i just wanted to express my appreciation for this group. i am surrounded on > all sides by people who vigorously defend their consumption of animal -- Save Kyoto! http://www.mackenziewild.ca Exxpose Exxon! http://www.exxposeexxon.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 I agree as well. I'm sure I would sink into deep depression at the horrible state of the world were it not for the knowledge that I am not the only one who knows about it. In my world, nobody talks about anything because they don't want to offend anyone. Thank you all for talking about it. And for listening. , Paul Falvo <pfalvo wrote: > > Hear hear! > > This list is like a little oasis of clarity -- and so civil -- I am very > grateful for what I have learned from all the wonderful contributors to > this list. > > ~Paul > > > chandelle' wrote: > > > > > > i just wanted to express my appreciation for this group. i am surrounded on > > all sides by people who vigorously defend their consumption of animal > > > -- > Save Kyoto! http://www.mackenziewild.ca > Exxpose Exxon! http://www.exxposeexxon.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Me, too! Just today, someone told me global warming was a big publicity stunt on the part of scientists who wanted their names known. Sighhhhh. thefourlakes <thefourlakes wrote: I agree as well. I'm sure I would sink into deep depression at the horrible state of the world were it not for the knowledge that I am not the only one who knows about it. In my world, nobody talks about anything because they don't want to offend anyone. Thank you all for talking about it. And for listening. , Paul Falvo <pfalvo wrote: > > Hear hear! > > This list is like a little oasis of clarity -- and so civil -- I am very > grateful for what I have learned from all the wonderful contributors to > this list. > > ~Paul > > > chandelle' wrote: > > > > > > i just wanted to express my appreciation for this group. i am surrounded on > > all sides by people who vigorously defend their consumption of animal > > > -- > Save Kyoto! http://www.mackenziewild.ca > Exxpose Exxon! http://www.exxposeexxon.com > Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Congratulations, Dave! What wonderful enthusiasm you have! Bess McBride www.bessmcbride.com www.rvromance.com , " padmasanadave " <padmasanadave wrote: > > I have considered becoming a veggie for some time, but it was just this > past weekend when I, with the support of so many of you, began my > journey in earnest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I really like some of the packaged fake meat products. There are a couple that I eat regularly, like 1-2x a week -- Morningstar Farms bacon strips and Quorn breaded cutlets. Others are just special treats. I can go through a lot of TVP, though -- I love Mexican food and TVP works great in tacos, taco soup, chili, enchiladas, etc. You'll use your TVP eventually! Audrey On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:05 PM, workingonit <katiejayinpa wrote: > > > thanks for the link and heads up to vegetarian times..... i guess i am > slowly working my way around to regular type meals=meaning, NOT throw > everything in one pot, cook it up with delicious spices(or not, sometimes i > really goof in this department)...then eat for as many meals as i can till > i > am just sick and tired of it..........lol! > > I think a real vegetarian is someone who does not eat meat........... > it took me a while to decided to buy packaged " meat product wannabe's " -you > know, fake bacon strips, sausage patties etc etc...it took me no time at > all > to buy 50 lbs of organic soy beans, 50 pounds of TVP and 50 pounds of vital > wheat gluten. What has taken time is finding way of using the wheat gluten > and tvp to make my own versions of these packaged products... > > I would love to have a great " meat " loaf that uses some of the TVP ......i > have seen and eated great lentil and nut loafs, great bean and nut loafs, > etc etc..but what in the world am i going to do with all this > TVP...............vbg! > > kaethejean > > http://katiejay.wordpress.com/ > > > _____ > > avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. > > Virus Database (VPS): 100127-0, 01/27/2010 > Tested on: 1/27/2010 12:43:57 PM > avast! - copyright © 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I do like the packaged products...particularly the sausage patties and links, quite a few of the burgers/patties.... the " chicken " strips and so forth, but i can;t afford really to eat them all the time....so i thought i was really doing something when i got the TVp and the vital wheat gluten(it is SOOOO expensive in those other smaller packages!)...I really thought i would be able to make my own " sausage' patties etc etc.....well, i'll get there~! http://katiejay.wordpress.com/ _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100128-0, 01/28/2010 Tested on: 1/28/2010 8:41:43 AM avast! - copyright © 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 it took me no time at all > to buy 50 lbs of organic soy beans, 50 pounds of TVP and 50 pounds of vital > wheat gluten. What has taken time is finding way of using the wheat gluten > and tvp to make my own versions of these packaged products... > > > kaethejean > > http://katiejay.wordpress.com/ Wouldn't the wheat gluten go rancid? Would you need to freeze large quantities? I'm lucky and can buy it bulk so I usually only buy a pound or less at a time. Deb in sunny Idaho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Thanks for the info on raw tofu. I did look on the net before I got your messages today and was relieved to find that it has gone through a cooking process. By the way, my husband just went vegan yesterday. Now we are hoping he will eventually get off his high blood pressure meds and colleestral meds. Reading The China Study was pretty convincing for him. We are looking for a long, productive, and healthy life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Wonderful!!!Yes, that is a great book. So well written that it's easy to read, but very thorough and fact-filled. On 20/04/2010, at 7:23 AM, Cher wrote:By the way, my husband just went vegan yesterday. Now we are hoping he will eventually get off his high blood pressure meds and colleestral meds. Reading The China Study was pretty convincing for him. We are looking for a long, productive, and healthy life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 That’s the book that did it for me. I wasn’t even vegetarian and I went vegan overnight after reading that book. Anna On 20/04/2010, at 7:23 AM, Cher wrote: By the way, my husband just went vegan yesterday. Now we are hoping he will eventually get off his high blood pressure meds and colleestral meds. Reading The China Study was pretty convincing for him. We are looking for a long, productive, and healthy life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 Hi, Just wanted to say congrats to your husband and good move. I have been vegetarian for years and a year ago in March I went to the doctor and my blood pressure was 175/90! I know, I couldn't believe it as I have always had good BP prior. I am 53 and in good health and wanted to know why, what was causing it. Had all the test, treadmill, echo etc and nothing out of the norm. He then pulls out the pad and wants to put me on meds. I am not a med person and want to try other options. So, when I left I moved to vegan, cut out the dairy and really focused on plant based. But, what I found this is not enough. I also increased my exercise. I am very active so I stepped it up. I wear a pedometer every day and walk 10,000 steps and ride my mountain bike for and hour or more at lunch on a hilly route. The exercise is key to keeping the bp in check. I now average around 117/72. I can not stress enough how much the exercise plays a part. Good luck and enjoy. I am very lucky to live in CA where there is a farmers market everyday somewhere nearby and I can always have fresh organic produce and enjoy the seasons bounty as well as growing my own garden. Enjoy , pipedream63 <pipedream63 wrote: > > > That¹s the book that did it for me. I wasn¹t even vegetarian and I went vegan > > overnight after reading that book. > > > > Anna > > > > > > On 20/04/2010, at 7:23 AM, Cher wrote: > > > >> By the way, my husband just went vegan yesterday. Now we are hoping he will > >> eventually get off his high blood pressure meds and colleestral meds. Reading > >> The China Study was pretty convincing for him. We are looking for a long, > >> productive, and healthy life. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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