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Every member has access to the email addresses of the other members on

this list. They can send them to the members privately if they choose. They

just can no longer use this list as their medium.

 

Do online petitions really do any good? I have always wondered about their

effectiveness. I never sign them but instead send snail mail handwritten

letters to the appropriate persons if I feel a cause worthy.

 

~ P_T ~

 

The sparrow is sorry for the peacock at the burden of his tail.

-Rabindranath Tagore, poet, philosopher, author, songwriter, painter,

educator, composer, Nobel laureate (1861-1941)

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, Sant & Brown <santbrown@l...>

wrote:

 

> But thanks to the person who did send the anti-war petition. After all,

> it affects us all - even the non-vegetariums on the list.

>

> peace,

> pat - canada

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, " ~ P_T ~

<patchouli_troll> " <patchouli_troll> wrote:

> Every member has access to the email addresses of the other members

on

> this list. They can send them to the members privately if they

choose. They

> just can no longer use this list as their medium.

>

> Do online petitions really do any good? I have always wondered

about their

> effectiveness. I never sign them but instead send snail mail

handwritten

> letters to the appropriate persons if I feel a cause worthy.

>

> ~ P_T ~

>

> The sparrow is sorry for the peacock at the burden of his tail.

> -Rabindranath Tagore, poet, philosopher, author, songwriter,

painter,

> educator, composer, Nobel laureate (1861-1941)

> ~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>

> , Sant & Brown

<santbrown@l...>

> wrote:

>

> > But thanks to the person who did send the anti-war petition.

After all,

> > it affects us all - even the non-vegetariums on the list.

> >

> > peace,

> > pat - canada

 

 

To all the members of this group:

 

I'm the person who sent the anti-war petition. I didn't think that

sending the petition, would cause so much controversy or angry

feelings. I didn't know that I could not, send any email like the

before amentioned offense. I sent this email because I hoped the

whole group would care about how our leaders are treating war like a

game.

I disagree with the war and hoped you all did 2. War causes anger

and death. War tear's people apart. I hope that maybe someday we will

have no more war's to fight. I don't like war because of the

hardships it causes.

I was wrong 4 sending that post and I appologize. I'm sorry 4 all

the negativity my post caused.I didn't mean 2 offend anyone, and I

appologise if I did so.

If anyone feels that I should leave due 2 my actions, I will do so.

Again I'm deeeply sorry 4 the negetivity my post caused the group.

 

Sincerly sorry :(

 

Angel :(

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" Angel <hdslilangel> " <hdslilangel> wrote:

> I was wrong 4 sending that post and I appologize. I'm sorry 4 all

> the negativity my post caused.I didn't mean 2 offend anyone, and I

> appologise if I did so.

> If anyone feels that I should leave due 2 my actions, I will do so.

> Again I'm deeeply sorry 4 the negetivity my post caused the group.

 

Hey Angel, I didn't hear anyone getting upset about the post you sent.

All I saw was P_T trying to set up some guidelines for posting from now

on.

 

I don't like the idea of war of any sort either, but I also don't like

online petitions, for a variety of reasons. So now that we all know

what the guidelines are, I don't see that it's a problem for anyone. I

certainly hope you don't leave because of it.

 

 

--

Sherri

 

" I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of

fools. Let's start with typewriters. " - Frank Lloyd Wright

 

 

 

 

 

 

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angel,

 

i think the only thing that made it irksome was that i

sent out almost the exact same petition just a few

days before you posted your version- so the group got

it twice.

 

anyways, karma is determined by intent; not outcome- i

don't think you have anything to worry about

pertaining to any ill effects or feelings by the

group.

 

just in case, though, i will take it upon myself to

commit ritual seppukku (again...sigh) in order to beg

the groups forgiveness of you. i shall write a final

haiku, perform the tea ceremony one last time, and

take away the burden of your guilt.

 

regards,

-Keith-

 

 

 

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iI's me again, Angel.

 

I rather think there are more people who respect and appreciate your

posting of the petition than you realize. It just happens, however, that

the list owner has decided to ban the posting of actual petitions. I

don't see that she has banned discussion of them, however, and unless we

are told otherwise I don't see that it would violate any rules if you or

anyone were to do either of two things:

 

1. post a weblink to a petitiion site. That takes up little room and

serves as information which we can all access if we are interested.

 

or

 

2. if no weblink is available, one could post a brief statement re the

subject of a petition so that we could in turn contact the person

posting it for the petition itself or more information.

 

or of course there is a third option:

 

3. do as the listowner PT suggests and use personal emails of members,

to which we all have access, and post to them individually or as a group

off list. (I always thought this was generally considered improper,

however, unless the individual members were already in touch with one

off list - but perhaps I am being too scrupulous here.)

 

Anyway, I signed the petition, sent it on, and I am getting feedback

from several countries to say that it has been widely dispersed from

those posts all of which came from your one post to this list. So cheer

up. Even if, as PT says, online petitions do little actual good (and I

question that ;=) but mildly) as far as where they are directed is

concerned, they do serve to make people who receive and sign them aware

and their friends/colleagues aware, and the more people who are trying

to stop something bad happening - like this shocking war, for example -

the better chance there is that there can be change somewhere sometime.

Think of petitions as a secular form of prayer :=)

 

best luck. peace.

pat - canada

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, " Angel <hdslilangel> "

<

hdslilangel> wrote:

 

> To all the members of this group:

>

> I'm the person who sent the anti-war petition. I didn't think

that

> sending the petition, would cause so much controversy or angry

> feelings.

 

Nobody is angry. Please remain calm. You didn't do anything wrong

since it

was not a rule as of yet.

 

 

> If anyone feels that I should leave due 2 my actions, I will do

so.

> Again I'm deeeply sorry 4 the negetivity my post caused the group.

>

> Sincerly sorry :(

>

> Angel :(

 

No need to be sorry or to leave. Nobody is angry or feeling negative

that I know of. I just felt I should post that rule to keep our

message digests

less cluttered with online petitions. My thoughts on this have

nothing at all to

do with war or your petition specifically. :)

 

Perhaps I should clarify the rule a bit. If you have a cause or

political issue

that you feel impotant and know of a petition you want to bring to

our

attention to sign, then just post the URL to the petition site. That

way we

don't get hundreds or thousands of " signatures " that we have to

scroll

through in our message digests or emails. Does that sound like a fair

compromise? The scrolling format was the only thing I was trying to

put an

end to. NOT you freedom to express your feelings about the war or

your

cause. Have a nice day.

 

~ P_T ~

*listowner and peace lover*

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LOL! Just post that haiku here for us to enjoy. :)

 

~ P_T ~

 

It is not always the same thing to be a good man and a good citizen.

-Aristotle, philosopher (384-322 BCE)

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, " Mr.Graves "

<sleepingtao>

wrote:

 

> just in case, though, i will take it upon myself to

> commit ritual seppukku (again...sigh)

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  • 4 years later...

Hiya,

 

Would you please be so good as to view & sign the below petitions and

view the below links to groups. If you've Internet Explorer 7 just

right click each petition to open up a TAB – too many will jam up

your PC though. Sorry there are so many – but they are all good

causes and worth spending a bit of time on.

 

Many Thanks

Darren

http://pets.TortoiseProtectionGroup/

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?

fuseaction=user.viewprofile & friendid=257053437

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7457416132

http://www.care2.com/c2c/people/profile.html?pid=324431583

http://www.tortoise-protection-group.org.uk/ (Under Construction)

 

Tortoise Importation:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/769012123

 

Turtles

http://www.savemoretonbay.org.au/newsletters/loggerhead_appeal.php

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/910172375

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/741410919

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/petitin-to-put-an-end-to-mass-

babyturtle-release-events-in-mexico

 

Seahorses:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/help-save-the-seahorse

 

DOG MEAT TRADE

http://choimimi.com/zboarde/zboard.php?id=sign

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/211305518

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/879609320

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-dog-meat-and-cat-meat-in-

usa.html

 

Shark Finning:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/400108473

 

Chinese Animal Torture

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/395884823

 

Gorillas

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/381734368

 

Coyotes

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/176167817

 

Bears:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/226638266

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/256644385

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/384199995

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/715968979

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/384199995

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/china-bear-rescue

 

Seal Fur Trade:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/942323765

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/145377155

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/please-ban-the-import-of-sealskin-to-

the-uk

http://www.stopthesealhunt.com/c.ihKPIWPCIqE/b.2580449/k.CDC6/Save_the

_Seals_Take_Action_to_End_the_Seal_Hunt/siteapps/advocacy/ActionItem.a

spx

 

Dog Fighting:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/410793720

 

Puppy Mills:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/997941177

Birds:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/129675217

 

Dolphins:-

http://www.petitiononline.com/golfinho

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/394013336

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/331781079

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/553308273

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/956955805

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/492975274

 

Whales:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/194508729

 

Chimpanzees:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/533495552

 

Offshore Drilling:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/981713535

 

Primate Experimentation:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/577022376

 

Wolves:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/776425164

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/662372904

 

Dog & Cat Skins:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/753898834

 

Tigers:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/549656012

 

Horses:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/166841148

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/stop-the-transport-of-horses-for-

slaughter

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/stop-horse-fighting-in-korea-china-

phillipines

 

End Animal Suffering Worldwide

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/458691259

 

Cougar Hunting:-

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/140373609

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/285793871

 

Daily Clicks to Donate:-

http://www.care2.com/click2donate/

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Thank you Darren, now I can just check to see if there are any that I haven't signed, I haven't seen the Coyote or the Seahorse ones before....this makes it so easy, it was very thoughtful of you to make up the list.

Kind regards

Jill

- TPGDarren

Would you please be so good as to view & sign the below petitions and view the below links to groups.

Many ThanksDarren

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