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I'd really love to hear from men on this list. I hope I'm not

picking at too many scabs. I know I don't participate a lot, but

this list seemed like a good place to start.

 

My brother is trying to scale back his meat consumption. He's

diabetic, and we have a bad family history (high blood pressure on

Mom's side, and Daddy died of a heart attack when he was 38.) He's

24 and just realized he's not immortal. Well, his male friends are

picking on him and doing things like trying to dangle bacon in front

of him while he eats something veggie (and the boy *likes* bacon,

too!) He found the new Burger King commercial, for some double-

thick-bacon-with-cheese monster, particularly annoying--it basically

suggests that a man who doesn't want to eat himself into an early

heart attack ought to just turn in his bits and pieces.

 

I can't say much to assuage his masculine pride, because I'm

female. So I was wondering if there were any books or blogs or

websites that address vegetarianism from a uniquely male

perspective.

 

Also, how do you guys on this list handle that kind of pressure--or

do you not feel it? I'm really curious.

 

Thanks a lot in advance.

 

Blessed be,

Jayelle

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Hi,

 

I don't know of any books or blogs dealing

with going vegetarian from a male perspective.

I don't/didn't have friends dangling bacon

in front of me. Many said they thought it

was probably a good idea although they

didn't feel capable/comfortable of doing

it at the present time. My biggest issue

is my omnivore wife who every several months

says how frustrated she is that we can't

consistently go out to the old restaurants

we went to and/or eat some of the old

meals we used to eat together. Please

keep in mind I became a vegetarian (lacto-

ovo) in 1998 but I still occasionally

hear these complaints.

 

I actually didn't feel nor do I feel now any

" macho " or masculine requirements to eat meat.

I feel compassion for the manner in which

animals are treated who are used for food,

for testing and for many other uses that

I consider inhumane.

 

Although it may be a male thing to a certain

extent it also relates to the males and females

with whom you associate. It also relates to

the society or culture in which you live.

I consider it more a matter of pride of

self than pride of masculinity. I think

this relates to many areas of life. Some

people are happy to meet their own goals

and receive personal and internal reinforcement

for their beliefs or activities. Some

people need external reinforcement for

their beliefs, their activities, their

sense of self and their body. One is

not necessarily better than the other,

just the way people are.

 

In fewer words, I'm male, I answered but

I don't think I can provide good answers

for your brother because we are different.

 

I wish him the best of luck and the best

of health and hope he succeeds despite

the attitudes of his male friends. I

don't and have not felt that particular

pressure.

 

Gary

 

--- Jayelle Wiggins <jayelle3 wrote:

 

> I'd really love to hear from men on this list. I

> hope I'm not

> picking at too many scabs. I know I don't

> participate a lot, but

> this list seemed like a good place to start.

>

> My brother is trying to scale back his meat

> consumption. He's

> diabetic, and we have a bad family history (high

> blood pressure on

> Mom's side, and Daddy died of a heart attack when he

> was 38.) He's

> 24 and just realized he's not immortal. Well, his

> male friends are

> picking on him and doing things like trying to

> dangle bacon in front

> of him while he eats something veggie (and the boy

> *likes* bacon,

> too!) He found the new Burger King commercial, for

> some double-

> thick-bacon-with-cheese monster, particularly

> annoying--it basically

> suggests that a man who doesn't want to eat himself

> into an early

> heart attack ought to just turn in his bits and

> pieces.

>

> I can't say much to assuage his masculine pride,

> because I'm

> female. So I was wondering if there were any books

> or blogs or

> websites that address vegetarianism from a uniquely

> male

> perspective.

>

> Also, how do you guys on this list handle that kind

> of pressure--or

> do you not feel it? I'm really curious.

>

> Thanks a lot in advance.

>

> Blessed be,

> Jayelle

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i had one of those door-to-door meat salesman (male) actually tell me

our veggie family was probably a lot better off and would live longer

than he would.

 

we had another one ask " :then why do you have a grill? " LOL as if

vegetarians dont grill anything

 

meg

 

Gary Mattingly wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I don't know of any books or blogs dealing

> with going vegetarian from a male perspective.

> I don't/didn't have friends dangling bacon

> in front of me. Many said they thought it

> was probably a good idea although they

> didn't feel capable/comfortable of doing

> it at the present time. My biggest issue

> is my omnivore wife who every several months

> says how frustrated she is that we can't

> consistently go out to the old restaurants

> we went to and/or eat some of the old

> meals we used to eat together. Please

> keep in mind I became a vegetarian (lacto-

> ovo) in 1998 but I still occasionally

> hear these complaints.

>

> I actually didn't feel nor do I feel now any

> " macho " or masculine requirements to eat meat.

> I feel compassion for the manner in which

> animals are treated who are used for food,

> for testing and for many other uses that

> I consider inhumane.

>

> Although it may be a male thing to a certain

> extent it also relates to the males and females

> with whom you associate. It also relates to

> the society or culture in which you live.

> I consider it more a matter of pride of

> self than pride of masculinity. I think

> this relates to many areas of life. Some

> people are happy to meet their own goals

> and receive personal and internal reinforcement

> for their beliefs or activities. Some

> people need external reinforcement for

> their beliefs, their activities, their

> sense of self and their body. One is

> not necessarily better than the other,

> just the way people are.

>

> In fewer words, I'm male, I answered but

> I don't think I can provide good answers

> for your brother because we are different.

>

> I wish him the best of luck and the best

> of health and hope he succeeds despite

> the attitudes of his male friends. I

> don't and have not felt that particular

> pressure.

>

> Gary

>

> --- Jayelle Wiggins <jayelle3 wrote:

>

> > I'd really love to hear from men on this list. I

> > hope I'm not

> > picking at too many scabs. I know I don't

> > participate a lot, but

> > this list seemed like a good place to start.

> >

> > My brother is trying to scale back his meat

> > consumption. He's

> > diabetic, and we have a bad family history (high

> > blood pressure on

> > Mom's side, and Daddy died of a heart attack when he

> > was 38.) He's

> > 24 and just realized he's not immortal. Well, his

> > male friends are

> > picking on him and doing things like trying to

> > dangle bacon in front

> > of him while he eats something veggie (and the boy

> > *likes* bacon,

> > too!) He found the new Burger King commercial, for

> > some double-

> > thick-bacon-with-cheese monster, particularly

> > annoying--it basically

> > suggests that a man who doesn't want to eat himself

> > into an early

> > heart attack ought to just turn in his bits and

> > pieces.

> >

> > I can't say much to assuage his masculine pride,

> > because I'm

> > female. So I was wondering if there were any books

> > or blogs or

> > websites that address vegetarianism from a uniquely

> > male

> > perspective.

> >

> > Also, how do you guys on this list handle that kind

> > of pressure--or

> > do you not feel it? I'm really curious.

> >

> > Thanks a lot in advance.

> >

> > Blessed be,

> > Jayelle

>

>

>

>

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Jayelle's post about " men and vegetarianism " kinda got to me, and I posted an ad

hoc essay/response at my blogsite below. It was worth a little more time

considering, thinking, and writing about based upon my own experiences. Hope it

helps.

 

The idea, too, of a " help site " for male vegetarisn/vegans is also

intriguing....

 

Anyway.... FYI, Mark

 

----

Blogsite: http://www.soulveggie.com

 

******************************************************************

Mark Sutton, Webmaster * msutton

Editor, Mad Cowboy e-Newsletter, http://www.madcowboy.com

To , send a blank e-mail to: Mad_Cowboy-

Back issues/info: Mad_Cowboy/

 

Mark's Personal Veg'n Blog: http://www.soulveggie.com

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I just visited and commented at your blog. A million thank yous. :-

)

 

Blessed be,

Jayelle

 

, Mark Sutton

<soulveggie wrote:

>

> Jayelle's post about " men and vegetarianism " kinda got to me, and

I posted an ad hoc essay/response at my blogsite below. It was

worth a little more time considering, thinking, and writing about

based upon my own experiences. Hope it helps.

>

> The idea, too, of a " help site " for male vegetarisn/vegans is also

intriguing....

>

> Anyway.... FYI, Mark

>

> ----

> Blogsite: http://www.soulveggie.com

>

> ******************************************************************

> Mark Sutton, Webmaster * msutton

> Editor, Mad Cowboy e-Newsletter, http://www.madcowboy.com

> To , send a blank e-mail to: Mad_Cowboy-

 

> Back issues/info: Mad_Cowboy/

>

> Mark's Personal Veg'n Blog: http://www.soulveggie.com

> ******************************************************************

>

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I'm glad your friends were more supportive than his, and I'm sorry

your wife gets on your case sometimes.

 

He's resisted pressure before, but when he's battling his own

cravings as well, it's been a bit difficult on him.

 

Blessed be,

Jayelle

 

, Gary Mattingly

<gsmattingly wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I don't know of any books or blogs dealing

> with going vegetarian from a male perspective.

> I don't/didn't have friends dangling bacon

> in front of me. Many said they thought it

> was probably a good idea although they

> didn't feel capable/comfortable of doing

> it at the present time. My biggest issue

> is my omnivore wife who every several months

> says how frustrated she is that we can't

> consistently go out to the old restaurants

> we went to and/or eat some of the old

> meals we used to eat together. Please

> keep in mind I became a vegetarian (lacto-

> ovo) in 1998 but I still occasionally

> hear these complaints.

>

> I actually didn't feel nor do I feel now any

> " macho " or masculine requirements to eat meat.

> I feel compassion for the manner in which

> animals are treated who are used for food,

> for testing and for many other uses that

> I consider inhumane.

>

> Although it may be a male thing to a certain

> extent it also relates to the males and females

> with whom you associate. It also relates to

> the society or culture in which you live.

> I consider it more a matter of pride of

> self than pride of masculinity. I think

> this relates to many areas of life. Some

> people are happy to meet their own goals

> and receive personal and internal reinforcement

> for their beliefs or activities. Some

> people need external reinforcement for

> their beliefs, their activities, their

> sense of self and their body. One is

> not necessarily better than the other,

> just the way people are.

>

> In fewer words, I'm male, I answered but

> I don't think I can provide good answers

> for your brother because we are different.

>

> I wish him the best of luck and the best

> of health and hope he succeeds despite

> the attitudes of his male friends. I

> don't and have not felt that particular

> pressure.

>

> Gary

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I'm wondering whether or not the ability

to resist relates, to a certain extent,

to the reason one becomes a vegetarian.

I became a vegetarian for animal-rights

related reason. Any time I even have

vague thoughts about eating meat simply

picturing how animals are kept and slaughtered

is more than enough to keep me from eating

meat. Whereas I should actually eat less

and exercise more and I have a much harder

time doing that.

 

Gary

 

--- Jayelle Wiggins <jayelle3 wrote:

 

> I'm glad your friends were more supportive than

> his, and I'm sorry your wife gets on your case

> sometimes.

>

> He's resisted pressure before, but when he's

> battling his own cravings as well, it's been a bit

> difficult on him.

>

>

> Blessed be,

> Jayelle

>

> , Gary

> Mattingly

> <gsmattingly wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I don't know of any books or blogs dealing

> > with going vegetarian from a male perspective.

> > I don't/didn't have friends dangling bacon

> > in front of me. Many said they thought it

> > was probably a good idea although they

> > didn't feel capable/comfortable of doing

> > it at the present time. My biggest issue

> > is my omnivore wife who every several months

> > says how frustrated she is that we can't

> > consistently go out to the old restaurants

> > we went to and/or eat some of the old

> > meals we used to eat together. Please

> > keep in mind I became a vegetarian (lacto-

> > ovo) in 1998 but I still occasionally

> > hear these complaints.

> >

> > I actually didn't feel nor do I feel now any

> > " macho " or masculine requirements to eat meat.

> > I feel compassion for the manner in which

> > animals are treated who are used for food,

> > for testing and for many other uses that

> > I consider inhumane.

> >

> > Although it may be a male thing to a certain

> > extent it also relates to the males and females

> > with whom you associate. It also relates to

> > the society or culture in which you live.

> > I consider it more a matter of pride of

> > self than pride of masculinity. I think

> > this relates to many areas of life. Some

> > people are happy to meet their own goals

> > and receive personal and internal reinforcement

> > for their beliefs or activities. Some

> > people need external reinforcement for

> > their beliefs, their activities, their

> > sense of self and their body. One is

> > not necessarily better than the other,

> > just the way people are.

> >

> > In fewer words, I'm male, I answered but

> > I don't think I can provide good answers

> > for your brother because we are different.

> >

> > I wish him the best of luck and the best

> > of health and hope he succeeds despite

> > the attitudes of his male friends. I

> > don't and have not felt that particular

> > pressure.

> >

> > Gary

>

>

>

>

>

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Well, this may produce an interesting new thread. For me, it was

health reasons--that family history. Also, I found that I just feel

*better* when I don't eat meat and keep the animal products to a

min. (Not easy--I like cheese and ice cream. A LOT!) I found out

later I'm allergic to eggs and all poultry.

 

Blessed be,

Jayelle

 

, Gary Mattingly

<gsmattingly wrote:

>

> I'm wondering whether or not the ability

> to resist relates, to a certain extent,

> to the reason one becomes a vegetarian.

> I became a vegetarian for animal-rights

> related reason. Any time I even have

> vague thoughts about eating meat simply

> picturing how animals are kept and slaughtered

> is more than enough to keep me from eating

> meat. Whereas I should actually eat less

> and exercise more and I have a much harder

> time doing that.

>

> Gary

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Awesome answer on your blog, Mark. i really enjoyed reading it.

i just love hearing Howard " MadCowboy " speak when he is

interviewed on radio talk shows; such a concise no-nonsense

approach to the whole issue of factory farming and world food

supply. :)

 

~ pt ~

 

Promises are like the full moon: if they are not kept

at once they diminish day by day.

~ German proverb

~~~*~~~*~~~>

, Mark Sutton <soulveggie

wrote:

>

> Jayelle's post about " men and vegetarianism " kinda got to me, and I posted

an ad hoc essay/response at my blogsite below. It was worth a little more time

considering, thinking, and writing about based upon my own experiences.

Hope it helps.

>

> The idea, too, of a " help site " for male vegetarisn/vegans is also

intriguing....

>

> Anyway.... FYI, Mark

>

> ----

> Blogsite: http://www.soulveggie.com

>

> ******************************************************************

> Mark Sutton, Webmaster * msutton

> Editor, Mad Cowboy e-Newsletter, http://www.madcowboy.com

> To , send a blank e-mail to: Mad_Cowboy-

 

> Back issues/info: Mad_Cowboy/

>

> Mark's Personal Veg'n Blog: http://www.soulveggie.com

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I also sent the " Mad Cowboy " link to my brother.

 

Blessed be,

Jayelle

 

, " ~ PT ~ "

<patchouli_troll wrote:

>

> Awesome answer on your blog, Mark. i really enjoyed reading it.

> i just love hearing Howard " MadCowboy " speak when he is

> interviewed on radio talk shows; such a concise no-nonsense

> approach to the whole issue of factory farming and world food

> supply. :)

>

> ~ pt ~

>

> Promises are like the full moon: if they are not kept

> at once they diminish day by day.

> ~ German proverb

> ~~~*~~~*~~~>

> , Mark Sutton

<soulveggie@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Jayelle's post about " men and vegetarianism " kinda got to me,

and I posted

> an ad hoc essay/response at my blogsite below. It was worth a

little more time

> considering, thinking, and writing about based upon my own

experiences.

> Hope it helps.

> >

> > The idea, too, of a " help site " for male vegetarisn/vegans is

also intriguing....

> >

> > Anyway.... FYI, Mark

> >

> > ----

> > Blogsite: http://www.soulveggie.com

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