Weaning from Cheese - thank you Tom (warning - may be too graphic for some)

[Guest guest]

Tom,

 

Thank you for your inspiring post to me and my quest to eliminate

cheese.

 

Friday night I " fell off the wagon " and had a few bites of cheese

pizza (my excuse, hadn't eaten much all day, had a few beers and it

was the only food at the concert, lots of drinks, little food).

Soon after felt awful, emotionally awful, disappointed with myself

for giving up so soon. Told my friend, wished there was a support

group so I could call someone for support, like AA or NA. What I

need to do in the future is look at any dairy and think " the pus "

that will likely be enough.

 

Have printed your post for future inspiration. Looking forward to

the day I am free of the dairy addiction.

 

thank you,

sisu

 

 

> The attachment to dairy can be very literally an addiction. All

> mammalian milk contains some form of casein, and mammalian babies

> turn this into casomorphin (see

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casomorphin). I've seen raccoon

mommas

> get very brutally harsh with their brood when it's weaning time,

but

> the youngsters are still desperately trying to pap.

>

> All us vegans are proof - as are all the other mammals that stop

> doing dairy - that the casomorphin addiction can be broken. It

just

> takes a will and reinforcing your self in positive ways. Once your

> addiction is broken, you'll lose the taste for dairy - it can even

> make you sick.

>

> The greatest temptation to give in is often when friends or family

> offer you something with dairy. Unless it's organic dairy, there

is

> one repulsion you might use to help you resist the temptation: The

> pus. Here in Ashland, Oregon, there was an expert in the dairy

> industry - a vegan in his latter days - named Virgil Hulse. He had

a

> book out titled, " Mad Cows and Milk Gate, " and was an expert

medical

> advisor to Howard Lyman and Oprah when they were getting sued by

> those Texan cattle fascists. In a talk at the Southern Oregon

> EarthSave potluck in December 1998 (and he died that following

> November from cancer which he attributed to his consumption of

dairy

> products earlier in his life), he said, " typical milk in a typical

> store can be as much as a quarter pus. " In his talk and in his

book

> he made clear that this pus is not just an icky thing, it's also

> very dangerous. His book makes clear that thousands of people die

> every year from diseases conveyed by this pus. The bovine leukemia

> virus (BLV) - a retro virus like HIV and the bovine equivalent,

BIV -

> has been tied to childhood leukemia, a top disease killer of

> children which has mushroomed in the US as BLV spread to infecting

> 80% of dairy herds in America, and BLV is conveyed via the pus in

> the milk.

>

> Cheese is often made with unpasteurized milk, and merely

> concentrates the solids - and this means that any pus in the milk

is

> also concentrated. So cheese can be worse than other forms of

dairy.

>

> Organic dairies which truly take care of the bovines (some

> large " organic " dairies are being criticized for not being so

nice)

> have way less of a problem with pus in the milk...

>

> (This time of year, when the weather can get quite hot, but the

> watermelon is cheap, a big hunk of chilled watermelon can be my

> whole meal.... And I'm posting from a park....)

>

> Peace and love,

> Tom

[Guest guest]

You're very welcome. I've known a few people who've forsworn dairy

after learning about the problem with the pus - it's hard to not

think about it once knowing about it.

 

If you have a messenger, you're welcome to add me

(vgan_spryt_guy or antipreophogistiii) and use me for support if I'm

on when you need it. And don't be too hard on yourself for falling

off the wagon - it's better to be positive about doing as well as

you did and resolve to do even better...

 

Peace and love....

 

, " sisupygmies "

<sisupygmies wrote:

>

> Tom,

>

> Thank you for your inspiring post to me and my quest to eliminate

> cheese.

>

> Friday night I " fell off the wagon " and had a few bites of cheese

> pizza (my excuse, hadn't eaten much all day, had a few beers and

it was the only food at the concert, lots of drinks, little food).

> Soon after felt awful, emotionally awful, disappointed with myself

> for giving up so soon. Told my friend, wished there was a

support group so I could call someone for support, like AA or NA.

What I need to do in the future is look at any dairy and think " the

pus " that will likely be enough.

>

> Have printed your post for future inspiration. Looking forward

to the day I am free of the dairy addiction.

>

> thank you,

> sisu

>

>

> > The attachment to dairy can be very literally an addiction. All

> > mammalian milk contains some form of casein, and mammalian

babies

> > turn this into casomorphin (see

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casomorphin). I've seen raccoon

> mommas

> > get very brutally harsh with their brood when it's weaning time,

> but

> > the youngsters are still desperately trying to pap.

> >

> > All us vegans are proof - as are all the other mammals that stop

> > doing dairy - that the casomorphin addiction can be broken. It

> just

> > takes a will and reinforcing your self in positive ways. Once

your

> > addiction is broken, you'll lose the taste for dairy - it can

even

> > make you sick.

> >

> > The greatest temptation to give in is often when friends or

family

> > offer you something with dairy. Unless it's organic dairy, there

> is

> > one repulsion you might use to help you resist the temptation:

The

> > pus. Here in Ashland, Oregon, there was an expert in the dairy

> > industry - a vegan in his latter days - named Virgil Hulse. He

had

> a

> > book out titled, " Mad Cows and Milk Gate, " and was an expert

> medical

> > advisor to Howard Lyman and Oprah when they were getting sued by

> > those Texan cattle fascists. In a talk at the Southern Oregon

> > EarthSave potluck in December 1998 (and he died that following

> > November from cancer which he attributed to his consumption of

> dairy

> > products earlier in his life), he said, " typical milk in a

typical

> > store can be as much as a quarter pus. " In his talk and in his

> book

> > he made clear that this pus is not just an icky thing, it's also

> > very dangerous. His book makes clear that thousands of people

die

> > every year from diseases conveyed by this pus. The bovine

leukemia

> > virus (BLV) - a retro virus like HIV and the bovine equivalent,

> BIV -

> > has been tied to childhood leukemia, a top disease killer of

> > children which has mushroomed in the US as BLV spread to

infecting

> > 80% of dairy herds in America, and BLV is conveyed via the pus

in

> > the milk.

> >

> > Cheese is often made with unpasteurized milk, and merely

> > concentrates the solids - and this means that any pus in the

milk

> is

> > also concentrated. So cheese can be worse than other forms of

> dairy.

> >

> > Organic dairies which truly take care of the bovines (some

> > large " organic " dairies are being criticized for not being so

> nice)

> > have way less of a problem with pus in the milk...

> >

> > (This time of year, when the weather can get quite hot, but the

> > watermelon is cheap, a big hunk of chilled watermelon can be my

> > whole meal.... And I'm posting from a park....)

> >

> > Peace and love,

> > Tom

>

[Guest guest]

Tom,

 

It's been 8 days since the pizza backslide and I haven't had any cheese

since. Cheese has been the only dairy in my diet for years. Don't buy

any cheese at the grocery. I blame the delicious Mexican restaurant.

Went there Sunday knowing this was my ultimate test. Much to my

surprise and joy, they had a new menu with many potatoe options, all

vegan, potatoe chimichanga, enchiladas. There is a sweet waitress

there who is well informed about vegetarian and vegan needs, what has

butter in it, etc.

 

Thank you for the offer to be my support person. I may need it, my

meat eating sister, her husband and kid are coming to visit and stay at

my home. I hope this isn't selfish but I really don't want my

kitchen 'dessicrated'. I may be taking them out to eat alot.

 

thank you,

sisu

 

 

> You're very welcome. I've known a few people who've forsworn dairy

> after learning about the problem with the pus - it's hard to not

> think about it once knowing about it.

>

> If you have a messenger, you're welcome to add me

> (vgan_spryt_guy or antipreophogistiii) and use me for support if I'm

> on when you need it. And don't be too hard on yourself for falling

> off the wagon - it's better to be positive about doing as well as

> you did and resolve to do even better...

> Peace and love....