Boston Brown Bread

January 6, 2006

Jan wrote, " ... I know another vegetarian that cooks meat for her

husband. If it's a stew or something she picks out the meat and eats

the veggies

and stuff. Is this ok in a not so strict vegetarian diet? I've been

thinking of doing it this way since I have to cook the meat for my

husband anyways. I make a lot of soups and stews. "

IMHO, IF you are trying to be a vegetarian yourself, it makes more sense

to cook without the meat and then add cooked meat into your husband's

portion.

You could, for instance, keep a separate pot for browning his meat

before adding it to the vegetarian mix. If you are having meals with

meat flavor permeating the whole recipe, you are not getting used to

tasting cooking without meat.

For longtime vegetarians like myself, if I taste something that has a

" surprise " animal ingredient, I can tell that something is off.

If you don't really intend to be a vegetarian, I guess it doesn't

matter, but then why would a list like this even appeal to you?

from Maida

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January 6, 2006

Maidawg wrote:

>If you don't really intend to be a vegetarian, I guess it doesn't

>matter, but then why would a list like this even appeal to you?

>

I haven't read on yet, so I don't know if someone has commented on

this... but I haven't been eating vegetarian for a while (sort of

slipped during my pregnancy and haven't gotten back to it). That doesn't

mean that I don't strive in that general direction and can't benefit

from this list.

January 6, 2006

***If you don't really intend to be a vegetarian, I guess it doesn't

matter, but then why would a list like this even appeal to you?****

I plan on being a vegetarian. I was just asking a question.

Jan

January 6, 2006

I don't intend to be a vegetarian, but yes- this list appeals to me very much.

I am striving to eat less meat and serve 4-5 meatless suppers a week.

I am here for matters of health and for the environment and because I care about

animals. I am the wife and chief cook of a family of five. My level of

commitment may not be as absolute as yours, but I think that cutting out 5 lbs

of meat per week in my household will make a difference. Maybe when you became

a vegetarian or vegan you just went cold turkey and that was that. Please have

respect for the rest of us; as I'm sure many of the people on this list are

making transitions gradually over a long period of time.

Suzanne Day Lueer <zandria72 wrote: Maidawg wrote:

>If you don't really intend to be a vegetarian, I guess it doesn't

>matter, but then why would a list like this even appeal to you?

>

I haven't read on yet, so I don't know if someone has commented on

this... but I haven't been eating vegetarian for a while (sort of

slipped during my pregnancy and haven't gotten back to it). That doesn't

mean that I don't strive in that general direction and can't benefit

from this list.

January 6, 2006

well said. same thing at our house.

kim martin <kkabs5 wrote: I don't intend to be a vegetarian,

but yes- this list appeals to me very much. I am striving to eat less meat and

serve 4-5 meatless suppers a week.

I am here for matters of health and for the environment and because I care

about animals. I am the wife and chief cook of a family of five. My level of

commitment may not be as absolute as yours, but I think that cutting out 5 lbs

of meat per week in my household will make a difference. Maybe when you became

a vegetarian or vegan you just went cold turkey and that was that. Please have

respect for the rest of us; as I'm sure many of the people on this list are

making transitions gradually over a long period of time.

Suzanne Day Lueer <zandria72 wrote: Maidawg wrote:

>If you don't really intend to be a vegetarian, I guess it doesn't

>matter, but then why would a list like this even appeal to you?

>

I haven't read on yet, so I don't know if someone has commented on

this... but I haven't been eating vegetarian for a while (sort of

slipped during my pregnancy and haven't gotten back to it). That doesn't

mean that I don't strive in that general direction and can't benefit

from this list.

July 15, 2006

Until I went to work, my children had never tasted store bought bread. After

their first loaf of white stuff they thought I was trying to kill them. Go

figure. Here's one of my favorites.

Boston Brown Bread

1 cup whole wheat flour

1 cup rye flour

1 cup yellow cornmeal

11/2 teaspoon baking powder

1 teaspoon salt

Â½ teaspoon baking soda

2 cups buttermilk

Â¾ cup molasses (since this gives the flavor, I wouldnâ€™t change)

2 tablespoons solid vegetable shortening, melted

1 cup dark, seedless raisins

Mix flours, cornmeal, baking powder, salt, baking soda in large bowl. Stir in

buttermilk, molasses, melted shortening, and raisins. Mix well.

Spoon batter into 4 well greased empty fruit or vegetable cans. (Actually

yes, I do recycle everything.) Cover with foil and tie with string. Place cans

on a rack in a large kettle. Pour in boiling water to come half way up sides of

cans. Cover and simmer for 2 Â½ to 3 hours. Add more boiling water as

necessary to keep cans in boiling water half way up the cans. Remove from

kettle and remove foil. Cool in cans on rack for 10 minutes. Invert cans onto

rack. Note: If you have difficulty getting the loaves out, open the other end

of the can and slide the bread out. (Some cans arenâ€™t built so that you can

do that, so in that instance, pierce the closed end to equalize pressure.)

Serve warm or slice leftover bread, toast.

Awesome (and traditional) with Boston Baked Beans (minus the pork ,bleah, yuk

ptooie.) Jeanne in Georgia

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July 15, 2006

Jeanne,

This sounds really good. I'm very intimidated by

bread/baking and I'd love to try these. What size

cans do you use? 15 oz?

--

Liz

July 15, 2006

Yes, just the normal 15 oz can. Don't be intimidated! Bread is the most

wonderful (IMO) thing to make. The yeast raised breads with kneading are great

for relieving stress. Nope, not kidding. You'll start out stressing then as it

turns to satin under your hands the stress has somehow just gone elsewhere. You

can pound it, slam it against the counter, slap it around and then knead. Maybe

I should write a book, the Zen of Bread, lol. Maybe it has already been written.

I have thousands of bread recipes, but there is ONE book that I can recommend

whole heartedly to any bread maker, beginner or professional. Bernard Clayton's

New Complete Book Of Breads. I have baked every recipe in that book, and the

first one, and all have been successes. I've never used a bread machine, but

for the machine bakers, there are instructions in that book as well. If the

house ever caught fire, after getting the animals and husband person out, I'd

grab this book. (Actually, that HAS happened. The other night - small electrical

fire in wall. Got the cats into the cat houses put the dogs out, threw the book

out into the cat house and got the computers outside before the husband found

the problem and opened up the wall, etc Luckily before I tossed my kitchenaid

mixer out into the cat house, he found the problem and was fixing it.)

Any help I can give you on bread baking 101, I will be glad to! HTH, Jeanne in

Georgia

Elizabeth Blake <stinky_harriet wrote:

Jeanne,

This sounds really good. I'm very intimidated by

bread/baking and I'd love to try these. What size

cans do you use? 15 oz?

--

Liz

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July 15, 2006

A bread book with your sense of humor would be great...unless you somehow change

the recipe that you take from another book. If you do not have permission from

the author, that is called copyright infringement. Might be an idea for you to

kick around in your spare time...lol.

M.A.

treazure noname <treazured wrote:

Yes, just the normal 15 oz can. Don't be intimidated! Bread is the

most wonderful (IMO) thing to make. The yeast raised breads with kneading are

great for relieving stress. Nope, not kidding. You'll start out stressing then

as it turns to satin under your hands the stress has somehow just gone

elsewhere. You can pound it, slam it against the counter, slap it around and

then knead. Maybe I should write a book, the Zen of Bread, lol. Maybe it has

already been written.

I have thousands of bread recipes, but there is ONE book that I can recommend

whole heartedly to any bread maker, beginner or professional. Bernard Clayton's

New Complete Book Of Breads. I have baked every recipe in that book, and the

first one, and all have been successes. I've never used a bread machine, but for

the machine bakers, there are instructions in that book as well. If the house

ever caught fire, after getting the animals and husband person out, I'd grab

this book. (Actually, that HAS happened. The other night - small electrical fire

in wall. Got the cats into the cat houses put the dogs out, threw the book out

into the cat house and got the computers outside before the husband found the

problem and opened up the wall, etc Luckily before I tossed my kitchenaid mixer

out into the cat house, he found the problem and was fixing it.)

Any help I can give you on bread baking 101, I will be glad to! HTH, Jeanne in

Georgia

Elizabeth Blake <stinky_harriet wrote:

Jeanne,

This sounds really good. I'm very intimidated by

bread/baking and I'd love to try these. What size

cans do you use? 15 oz?

--

Liz

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starting at 1¢/min.

July 15, 2006

Glad that you were able to find the fire and get it taken care of...lucky, I

would say.