Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 The media is buzzing over the spinach crisis, caused by an outbreak of the potentially lethal bacterium E. coli O157:H7. A curious yet widespread claim is that, because some of the spinach so far identified as contaminated came from organic farms, organic farming is unsafe. It's a curious claim, because scientists understand pretty well where the O157:H7 is coming from: the bellies of factory-farmed cows. Their manure, as it turns out, is now crawling with the critters. As this NYT op-ed puts it: Where does this particularly virulent strain come from? It's not found in the intestinal tracts of cattle raised on their natural diet of grass, hay and other fibrous forage. No, O157 thrives in a new — that is, recent in the history of animal diets — biological niche: the unnaturally acidic stomachs of beef and dairy cattle fed on grain, the typical ration on most industrial farms. It's the infected manure from these grain-fed cattle that contaminates the groundwater and spreads the bacteria to produce, like spinach, growing on neighboring farms. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/21/opinion/21planck.html? ex=1316491200 & en=80e5e464fa1c6fb0 & ei=5090 & partner=rssuserland & emc=rss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Good to be a vegetarian, isn't it! At least we're not contributing to the meat part of the problem. You'd really think it'd occur to people that what they're doing is dangerous! Money rules, though, and we all have to pay the price for others' greed. Kadee Sedtal " Cuthbert J. Twillie " <jdsears669 wrote: The media is buzzing over the spinach crisis, caused by an outbreak of the potentially lethal bacterium E. coli O157:H7. A curious yet widespread claim is that, because some of the spinach so far identified as contaminated came from organic farms, organic farming is unsafe. It's a curious claim, because scientists understand pretty well where the O157:H7 is coming from: the bellies of factory-farmed cows. Their manure, as it turns out, is now crawling with the critters. As this NYT op-ed puts it: Where does this particularly virulent strain come from? It's not found in the intestinal tracts of cattle raised on their natural diet of grass, hay and other fibrous forage. No, O157 thrives in a new — that is, recent in the history of animal diets — biological niche: the unnaturally acidic stomachs of beef and dairy cattle fed on grain, the typical ration on most industrial farms. It's the infected manure from these grain-fed cattle that contaminates the groundwater and spreads the bacteria to produce, like spinach, growing on neighboring farms. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/21/opinion/21planck.html? ex=1316491200 & en=80e5e464fa1c6fb0 & ei=5090 & partner=rssuserland & emc=rss Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 when i learned about factory farming i became an instant vegetarian. that was a quarter of a century ago. i can't grasp how people can continue to eat animals even knowing how they suffer. not to mention what it does to the environment, etc. Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 The thing is, most people still believe that cows spend their days out in pastures eating nice grass and the friendly farmer drives out every day to give them fresh hay, chickens peck at bugs on the ground and raise their chicks, pigs play in the mud and get a yummy trough full of the family's leftover supper, that they're all killed humanely, all that garbage. They don't know that these animals suffer their whole lives, that mothers have their babies taken away, that they're killed with no concern as to the amount of pain they experience. If more people knew, there would be more vegetarians and more meat-eaters who only bought meat from free-ranging animals. But the meat industry is such an enormous source of money the government has no reason to expose them. Remember back when Oprah said something about mad cow disease, and that after hearing that she'd never eat another hamburger, and someone sued her? No one's going to air something that goes against the meat industry, no one can without being sued to hell. People simply do not know, and until we tell them the truth they will stay there in the dark. My mom was surprised to learn that no, those milk cows aren't happy. They produce milk because they're kept pregnant all the time just to have their babies taken and sold for veal, and are fed hormones that make them produce more milk than they should. She just didn't know. Kadee Sedtal donnola bitemya <redairzeke wrote: when i learned about factory farming i became an instant vegetarian. that was a quarter of a century ago. i can't grasp how people can continue to eat animals even knowing how they suffer. not to mention what it does to the environment, etc. Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 donnola bitemya <redairzeke wrote: when i learned about factory farming i became an instant vegetarian. that was a quarter of a century ago. i can't grasp how people can continue to eat animals even knowing how they suffer. not to mention what it does to the environment, etc. Not to mention the people who scream to have the ten commandments plastered all over but when it comes to " Thou shall not kill " well, that's all I need to say on that subject... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 --- " Cuthbert J. Twillie " <jdsears669 wrote: > donnola bitemya <redairzeke wrote: > when i learned about factory farming i became an > instant vegetarian. that was a quarter of a c > entury ago. i can't grasp how people can continue > to eat animals even knowing how they suffer. not > to mention what it does to the > environment, etc. I don't understand how they continue either. Of course, even without factory farming I don't understand how they eat veal. How can they wear furs? Gary gsmattingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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