Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 MIcrowave cooking and health Posted by: " Shirish Bhate " shirishbhate shirishbhate Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:32 am (PST) A friend who often contributes health related power point files, has sent a photo album showing results of microwave radiated water on plant. Microwaved Water - See What It Does To Plants. Below is a science fair project. In it she took filtered water and divided it into two parts. The first part she heated to boiling in a pan on the stove, and the second part she heated to boiling in a microwave. Then after cooling she used the water to water two identical plants to see if there would be any difference in the growth between the normal boiled water and the water boiled in a microwave. She was thinking that the structure or energy of the water may be compromised by microwave. As it turned out, even she was amazed at the difference. YOu can see the difference for yourself, by going to photo section of the group website, clicking on album 'Microwave Experiment'. The photos of the plant provided there are taken every alternate day. I have known for years that the problem with microwaved anything is not the radiation people used to worry about, It's how it corrupts the DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it. So the body wraps it in fat cells to protect itself from the dead food or it eliminates it fast. Think of all the Mothers heating up milk in these " Safe " appliances. What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a transfusion patient and accidentally killed them when the blood went in dead. But the makers say it's safe. Never mind then, keep using them. Ask your Doctor I am sure they will say it's safe too. Proof is in the pictures of living plants dying. Remember You are also Living. Take Care. FORENSIC RESEARCH DOCUMENT Prepared By: William P. Kopp A. R. E. C. Research Operations RELEASE PRIORITY: CLASS I ROO1a Ten Reasons to Throw out your Microwave Oven From the conclusions of the Swiss, Russian and German scientific clinical studies, we can no longer ignore the microwave oven sitting in our kitchens. Based on this research, we will conclude this article with the following: 1). Continually eating food processed from a microwave oven causes long term - permanent - brain damage by " shorting out " electrical impulses in the brain [de-polarizing or de-magnetizing the brain tissue]. 2). The human body cannot metabolize [break down] the unknown by-products created in microwaved food. 3). Male and female hormone production is shut down and/or altered by continually eating microwaved foods. 4). The effects of microwaved food by-products are residual [long term, permanent] within the human body. 5). Minerals, vitamins, and nutrients of all microwaved food is reduced or altered so that the human body gets little or no benefit, or the human body absorbs altered compounds that cannot be broken down. 6). The minerals in vegetables are altered into cancerous free radicals when cooked in microwave ovens. 7). Microwaved foods cause stomach and intestinal cancerous growths [tumors]. This may explain the rapidly increased rate of colon cancer in America. 8). The prolonged eating of microwaved foods causes cancerous cells to increase in human blood. 9). Continual ingestion of microwaved food causes immune system deficiencies through lymph gland and blood serum alterations. 10). Eating microwaved food causes loss of memory, concentration, emotional instability, and a decrease of intelligence. Have you tossed out your microwave oven yet? After you throw out your microwave you can use a toaster oven as a replacement. It works well for most and is nearly as quick. The use of artificial microwave transmissions for subliminal psychological control, a.k.a. " brainwashing " , has also been proven. We're attempting to obtain copies of the 1970's Russian research documents and results written by Drs. Luria and Perov specifying their clinical experiments in this area. GB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Thankfully, this story has been debunked: http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp -Erin www.zenpawn.com/vegblog , " greatyoga " <greatyoga wrote: > > MIcrowave cooking and health > Posted by: " Shirish Bhate " shirishbhate shirishbhate > Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:32 am (PST) > A friend who often contributes health related power point files, has > sent a photo album showing results of microwave radiated water on > plant. > > Microwaved Water - See What It Does To Plants. > Below is a science fair project. [...snip...] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Erin, Here is part of an interview with Dr. Masuro Emoto, a researcher who photographs water molecules. Sure, all water molecules are H2O but are they all the same? Are all people the same? In Newtonian physics, microwaved water is okay. In particle physics, it would be different. Below is the link for the entire interview. Other links for scientific and other studies are included. http://www.cancersalves.com/articles/Microwave.html http://www.karlloren.com/Diabetes/p35.htm http://proliberty.com/observer/20041013.htm WATER AS A MESSENGER OF GOD An Interview with Masuro Emoto by Randy Peyser As featured in the movie, " What the Bleep Do We Know, " scientific researcher, Dr. Masaru Emoto, has gained international notoriety for his groundbreaking work regarding the effect of words and feelings on water. His newest book, " Hidden Messages from Water, " features stunning photographs of water crystals that resulted when water was exposed to specific words. Although this interview occurred just prior to the tsunami, which has left much grief and devastation in its path, Dr. Emoto additionally offers his thoughts about this natural catastrophe, and makes a request of the reader. Randy Peyser: You discovered that crystals formed in frozen water change when specific thoughts are directed toward them. For example, when water is frozen after being exposed to loving words, such as 'truth' or 'love,' the end result is a crystal with a snowflake pattern that is complex in nature and quite brilliant. However, if water is exposed to a negative thought, you discovered that it will form an incomplete pattern or have no distinguishable pattern at all. What do think is going on here? Masaru Emoto: Water is a messenger of God. RP: What is the message that God is wanting to tell us? ME: Everything comes from a vibration. As the bible says, " In the beginning there was the Word… " The words are our heart, and from this heart the whole universe is made. God made water from this heart, which is based on goodness, truth and beauty. RP: How did you set up your experiments? ME: I have a staff of six people. We typed words on pieces of paper then wrapped them around bottles of water and put them in a freezer that was -5 degrees centigrade (23 degrees Fahrenheit). When it was frozen, we looked at the water specimens under special microscopes to see if there would be any difference. We discovered that words like " beauty, " " you're cute, " " thank you " and " wisdom, " created beautiful crystals in the water. But words like " you fool!' and " you make me sick; I will kill you! " produced incomplete crystals or no crystals at all. RP: Have you found that words in certain languages have a stronger affect on the formation of the crystals than words in other languages? ME: No. Regardless of the language being spoken, the words will affect the formation of the crystals. Water produces formations based on circumstances, not because of a specific language. For example, if a circumstance is good, the water will make a formation to reflect goodness and beauty, and if a circumstance is evil, it will create a formation that is ugly and evil-looking. RP: Is there a difference in the formation of crystals when beautiful music is played versus when discordant music is played? ME: Yes. Anything that is of beauty, whether it be in the form of music or words, produces a beautiful result. Anything that is negative or discordant, such as heavy metal music or a negative phrase, such as " I hate you, " will not form a recognizable crystal. Instead, an ugly image will result. RP: Have you ever experimented with cell phones or microwaves? I'm wondering if those kinds of things or other electrical appliances have an effect on the crystal structures. ME: We took the words, " love and gratitude " and wrapped them around various bottles of water which were placed near mobile phones, computers, televisions and microwave ovens. What we found is that when water is microwaved it produces an ugly ring that looks similar to the structure we've found for the word, " satan. " The water placed next to the computers and televisions produced an insignificant-looking, blurry-edged ring, while the water placed near the mobile phones wouldn't produce a crystal at all. RP: Have you done any similar experiments using food? ME: Actually, a family who followed my work did an experiment where they cooked some rice and divided it into two glass jars. Every day, both the parents and the children spoke to the rice and said, " Thank you, " to one of the jars, and said " You fool! " to the other. At the end of the month they opened the jars. The one that they had said 'thank you' to had a slightly fermented smell, but the jar that had been shouted at had turned completely black and rotted. RP: How long does it take to energize water? ME: It depends if the water is exposed to music, words or praying, since each of these requires a different length of time. For example, when music is played for water, the water can be energized in about a half hour. If words or language are used, then it takes 24 hours to energize the water. Praying produces a beautiful pattern that is almost immediate. RP: That is an interesting observation. Since water is so responsive to prayer, can prayer be used to help water that is polluted? ME: Yes. Lake Biwa is in a part of Japan called Shiga. This lake was badly polluted and the water was foul smelling and dirty. Every summer, the surface of the lake would be covered with a species of aquatic plant called, Kokanada Algae, which would putrify, creating a very bad smelling odor. For twenty years in a row, there was a large scale operation in place to remove all of it. However, one summer, the aquatic plant hardly emerged at all. Nobody could explain why the Kokonada had failed to return. What they didn't know was that I led a group of 350 people to that lake to pray for it and to pray for world peace as well. We assembled by the shore and faced the surface of the water as the rising sun came up. Then we chanted ten times: " The eternal power of the universe has gathered itself to create a world with true and grand harmony. " This chant is a powerful statement that not only can help water, but can also help actualize world peace. By vocalizing this declaration, which is infused with the eternal energy of the universe, it spreads to surrounding things and penetrates them, resulting in greater happiness, world peace, and the fulfillment of many wishes. RP: What do you conclude from this experiment? ME: Substances in nature, like water, respond to our human thoughts. They can accept our thoughts to change their condition and quality. By requesting harmony in our thoughts, we transformed the surface of the lake into a clean state. Our thoughts not only curbed the very bad smelling aquatic plant, but also changed the qualities of the grasses and the water. RP: Do the prayers of certain individuals affect the crystal shapes of water more than others? For example, will the prayers of a monk affect the shapes of the crystals more than the prayers of an ordinary person? ME: It depends on each individual, however, it is not necessarily dependent on whether one is a high-ranking monk or preacher. It works best when people are pure, when they have what I call, " a very good mind; " they're pure-minded. Their prayers create crystals that are very beautiful and clear. In general, the most beautiful crystals appear in response to the prayers of little children. The crystals that form as a result of their prayers are much more beautiful than that of the adults. RP: Why do you think that is so? ME: Because they are more pure. They are the most innocent. RP: Have you ever put negative words on water, then exposed the same water to positive words? ME: Yes. The result was that the water changed according to the words it was exposed to. When it was given negative words, it did not form crystals. When it was given positive words it changed and beautiful crystals formed. The words " love " and " thanks " produced the best results. There was also a similar response when water was exposed to the television. When the water was shown a wholesome film, the crystals became more distinct and beautiful. RP: What do you intend to do next? Are you researching something new right now? ME: I have many research themes going on right now, but I am most concerned about all of the wars that are going on for religious reasons. Whether the wars are between the Irish and English or happening in the middle East or Africa, I am analyzing all of this and hope to help conclude all these things eventually through the use of the water crystal formations. RP: Over one million people have seen the movie, " What the Bleep Do We Know? " which features the work of many experts in the field of quantum physics, including your work with the water crystals. How has this movie made a difference for you since it premiered? ME: About three years ago, I was approached by Will Arntz who was producing this movie about quantum physics. My work matched their need so they decided to include information about the water crystals in their movie. A Japanese version of the movie was also created and Will came to Japan for its release. 3500 people attended the premiere. As a result of the movie, more and more people have learned about my work and my research has become well-known throughout the world. RP: At one point in the movie, the main character is shown your research and discovers that water responds to words. A stranger walks up to her and says something to the effect of, " If our thoughts can change water, what are they doing to us? ME: We are mostly made up of water. All our feelings and thoughts have an effect on the world. If we send out thoughts and feelings that are filled with fear, anger or negativity, we are contributing to the destruction of the universe. If we emit thoughts of love, kindness and beauty, we are contributing to the creation of a beautiful world. This is what water crystals reveal. RP: You believe that the words, " love and gratitude " form the most beautiful and most complex crystals, and you conclude that love and gratitude are the strongest vibrations in the world. You also believe that gratitude outweighs love in its ability to create a pattern of beauty in a crystal. Can you talk about that? ME: Love and gratitude are in relationship to one another; love is active and gratitude is passive. It is like a ratio where " love " is 1 and " gratitude " is 2. This one to two ratio is like H20 where you have two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen. In this case, it is like having two parts gratitude to one part love. I believe that water has a message. Water teaches us that the world is linked together by love and gratitude. RP: You established a new foundation called " The Water of Life Foundation. " Why did you start this organization and what is its purpose? ME: I've studied water for a number of years and I want to reach a worldwide audience and get the message out about this research. Last year, I joined with the United Nations to help further this research together. I have also started a " World Day of Love and Thanks to Water " which is July 25. RP: And what is the message behind the research? ME: We all have an important mission: to make water clean again, and to create a world that is easy and healthy to live in. In order to accomplish our mission, we must first make sure that our hearts are clear and unpolluted. Although this interview had come to an end, within a few weeks, the devastating tsunami occurred. In response to this horrible catastrophe, Dr. Emoto requests the following: " To everyone in the world, let us offer a prayer of love to the Indian Ocean rim countries! I feel terribly sorry for the loss that has been caused by the biggest catastrophe from a tsunami in history. I am utterly lost for words to offer for the deceased and their families. I just pray to God that their souls shall rest in peace. The World Health Organization has released a warning for the possible emergence of epidemics, such as cholera. Many people could die from infectious diseases as were killed by the tsunami. As a Hado (vibration) researcher, I am truly worried about this disaster. As well as the hygiene issue, I feel that the " vibrational fields " of the countries have extremely deteriorated. The " fields, " which are created by feelings of fear, grief, worry, lack of trust, anger, loneliness, and helplessness, could energize the malevolent microorganisms that prefer this kind of environment. People cannot help but have these feelings, and their feelings of anger and hostility can only multiply the negativity of the " field. " We have to limit the negative " field " in any way possible. What can we do? The only way is for people from all over the world to pray for the recovery of the affected area. Our prayers will definitely carry far with the purity of our Hado. Therefore, from today, let's close our eyes for a few seconds before our meals and send words of prayer to the countries. Let's send a prayer for them before we go to sleep. Through the research of the water crystal over the last ten years, I have proven that people's pure energy of consciousness can change the water in areas that people have prayed for, regardless of the distance. Also, the most effective Hado prayer is the feeling of love and thanks. Now is the time to send your feeling of love and thanks to the earth's water. www.randypeyser.com/emoto.htm , " Erin " <truepatriot wrote: > > Thankfully, this story has been debunked: > > http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp > > > -Erin > www.zenpawn.com/vegblog > > > , " greatyoga " <greatyoga@> > wrote: > > > > MIcrowave cooking and health > > Posted by: " Shirish Bhate " shirishbhate@ shirishbhate > > Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:32 am (PST) > > A friend who often contributes health related power point files, > has > > sent a photo album showing results of microwave radiated water on > > plant. > > > > Microwaved Water - See What It Does To Plants. > > Below is a science fair project. > > [...snip...] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 I have just had a quick glance at the interview, but I have seen enough to form an opinion that this is nothing to be taken seriously: " Masaru Emoto: Water is a messenger of God. " and " ME: Actually, a family who followed my work did an experiment where they cooked some rice and divided it into two glass jars. Every day, both the parents and the children spoke to the rice and said, " Thank you, " to one of the jars, and said " You fool! " to the other. At the end of the month they opened the jars. The one that they had said 'thank you' to had a slightly fermented smell, but the jar that had been shouted at had turned completely black and rotted. " I respect everyone's right to believe in whatever they choose to, but statements like the above are totally ascientific, to put it mildly. I think this is utter nonsense. Iza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Welcome to Newtonian physics. I would check out Emoto's book where you can actually see the pictures but of course some people do not believe visual, audio or any other evidence. GB , " Izaskun Fuentes Milani " <Izaskun wrote: > > I have just had a quick glance at the interview, but I have seen enough to > form an opinion that this is nothing to be taken seriously: > > " Masaru Emoto: Water is a messenger of God. " > > and > > " ME: Actually, a family who followed my work did an experiment where > they cooked some rice and divided it into two glass jars. Every day, > both the parents and the children spoke to the rice and said, " Thank > you, " to one of the jars, and said " You fool! " to the other. At the > end of the month they opened the jars. The one that they had said > 'thank you' to had a slightly fermented smell, but the jar that had > been shouted at had turned completely black and rotted. " > > I respect everyone's right to believe in whatever they choose to, but > statements like the above are totally ascientific, to put it mildly. I > think this is utter nonsense. > > Iza > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Quantum mechanics has indeed encountered many a mind-blowing discovery, such as light being simultaneously a particle and a wave. I enjoyed the movie What The Beep and thought it's main point that mysticism and/or spirituality may be somewhat supported by the new physics was a good one. On the other hand, there are many parts that are just pure bunk. I believe this is one of them. It is easy to be persuaded by pseudo-science, and unfortunately, it is pervasive on the internet. We must all learn to become discerning/critical readers and seek to understand the differences between the types of studies, their strengths and weaknesses, and to recognize when the scientific method has not been applied at all. <a href= " http://www.realmercuryfacts.org/about_research_studies/design_of _studies.htm " >Scientific Study Designs</a> <a href= " http://www.tinajuanfitness.info/articles/art032399.html " >Evaluat ing Scientific Claims</a> <a href= " http://www.abc.net.au/science/features/bleep/ " >Examining the claims of What The Bleep</a> Hope this helps, -Erin www.zenpawn.com/vegblog , " greatyoga " <greatyoga wrote: > > Welcome to Newtonian physics. I would check out Emoto's book where > you can actually see the pictures but of course some people do not > believe visual, audio or any other evidence. > > GB > > , " Izaskun Fuentes Milani " > <Izaskun@> wrote: > > > > I have just had a quick glance at the interview, but I have seen > enough to > > form an opinion that this is nothing to be taken seriously: > > > > " Masaru Emoto: Water is a messenger of God. " > > > > and > > > > " ME: Actually, a family who followed my work did an experiment where > > they cooked some rice and divided it into two glass jars. Every day, > > both the parents and the children spoke to the rice and said, " Thank > > you, " to one of the jars, and said " You fool! " to the other. At the > > end of the month they opened the jars. The one that they had said > > 'thank you' to had a slightly fermented smell, but the jar that had > > been shouted at had turned completely black and rotted. " > > > > I respect everyone's right to believe in whatever they choose to, but > > statements like the above are totally ascientific, to put it mildly. I > > think this is utter nonsense. > > > > Iza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Hmmm... so much for the HTML; the link still got split http://www.realmercuryfacts.org/about_research_studies/design_of_studies ..htm If it's still broken, paste the two lines together into your browser or use this shortlink: http://makeashorterlink.com/?N252414ED -Erin www.zenpawn.com/vegblog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 Erin, I tried to go to all the URL's you posted. The first would not come up. The second was the scientific method. I agree that a lot of these things need more testing. However, that is just what I am saying. People think that just because something has not been scientifically proven, then it does not work or is " bunk " . these things do need more testing. One problem is that the microwave industry is not likely to fund a study.They are the most likey candidates to do it since they gain the most monitarily. If they ever did a study, I would watch out for bias on their part. They have nothing to gain from doing a study. No one has proved that God does exist. Does that mean that God does not Exist? Show me the double blind study/. I did not see the movie " What the Bleep " . I probably will someday. Some of the quotations I would not have used to support my idea of quantum mechanics in this issue on microwaves. Studies will happen in time. The meta will be taken out of metaphysical. Hertel and Blanc's study is the only definitive study done on microwaves so far. I started learning about this in the early '70s. I am not an expert but I have learned a lot from my teachers and even more from my experience. I do agree that we should be on the lookout for shams and scams. I really have a hard time with Randy though. I disagree with him on just about every issue. I have had personal experience on many things that he considers " bunk " . From what I can see, he considers everything bunk, unless it has 100 scientific studies behind it. I would not be surprised if he supports anything on this veggie forum. Here is some more information. Many people may disagree but others may learn. Everyone can make their own choice GB Today, more than 90% of American homes have a microwave oven, used for meal preparation. It is perhaps the most successful appliance introduction of the 20th century. There's some evidence it might be right up there with other 20th century miracles that, while solving one problem, created others: miracles like processed foods, additives, pesticides, and packaging. Some of these innovations were thrust upon consumers without much thought about the longer-term problems they create. The Russians have done thorough research on their biological effects, and as a result, their use was outlawed there in 1976. Other Eastern European scientists also reported the harmful effects of microwave radiation and set up strict environmental limits for their usage. The United States has not accepted the European reports of harmful effects, even though the EPA estimates that radio frequency and microwave radiation sources in America are increasing at 15% per year. The Nazis originally developed microwave radiomissor cooking ovens for use in their mobile support operations, to be used for the invasion of Russia. By being able to utilize electronic equipment for preparation of meals on a mass scale, the logistical problem of cooking fuels would have been eliminated, as well as the convenience of producing edible products in a greatly reduced time-factor. Artificial vs. Natural Microwaves Microwaves are very short waves of electromagnetic energy that travel at the speed of light. Microwave ovens contain a magnetron, a tube in which electrons are affected by magnetic and electric fields in such a way as to produce micro wavelength radiation at about 2450 Megahertz (MHz) or 2.45 Gigahertz (GHz). This microwave radiation interacts with the molecules in food. All wave energy changes polarity from positive to negative with each cycle of the wave. In microwaves, these polarity changes happen millions of times every second. Food molecules--especially the molecules of water--have a positive and negative end in the same way a magnet has a north and a south polarity. As the microwaves generated from the magnetron bombard the food, they cause the polar molecules to rotate at the same frequency, millions of times a second. All this agitation creates molecular friction, which heats up the food. The friction also causes substantial damage to the surrounding molecules, often tearing them apart or forcefully deforming them. The scientific name for this deformation is structural isomerism. By comparison, microwaves from the sun are based on principles of pulsed direct current (DC) that don't create frictional heat; microwave ovens use alternating current (AC) creating frictional heat. A microwave oven produces a spiked wavelength of energy with all the power going into only one narrow frequency of the energy spectrum. The toxic effects of microwave cooking are another in a long list of unnatural additives in our daily diets. Artificially produced microwaves are based on the principle of alternating current. Atoms, molecules and cells hit by this hard electromagnetic radiation are forced to reverse polarity 1 to 100 billion times a second. Production of unnatural molecules is inevitable. Naturally occurring amino acids undergo isomeric changes (changes in shape morphing), as well as transformation into toxic forms, under the impact of microwaves produced in ovens. There are no atoms, molecules or cells of any organic system able to withstand such a violent, destructive power for any extended period of time, not even in the low energy range of milliwatts. Of all the natural substances, which are polar, the oxygen of water molecules reacts most sensitively. This is contrary to the conventional heating of food, in which heat transfers convectionally from without to within. Cooking by microwaves begins within the cells and molecules where water is present and where the energy is transformed into frictional heat. Effects on Cells In addition to violent frictional heat effects (called thermic effects), there are also athermic effects, which have hardly ever been taken into account. These athermic effects also deform the structures of molecules and have qualitative consequences. For example, the weakening of cell membranes by microwaves is used in the field of gene-altering technology. Because of the force involved, the cells are actually broken, thereby neutralizing the electrical potentials--the very life of the cells--between the outer and inner sides of the cell membranes. Impaired cells become easy prey for microorganisms. Natural repair mechanisms are suppressed, and cells are forced to adapt to a state of energy emergency--they switch from aerobic to anaerobic respiration. Instead of water and carbon dioxide, hydrogen peroxide and carbon monoxide are produced. Any reversal of healthy cell processes may occur because of a number of reasons, and our cells then revert from a robust oxidation to an unhealthy fermentation. The same violent friction and athermic deformations, that can occur in our bodies when we are subjected to radar or microwaves, happens to the molecules in the food cooked in a microwave oven. A microwave oven decays and changes the molecular structure of the food by the process of radiation. We've all been told that microwaving food is not the same as irradiating it. The two processes are supposed to use completely different waves of energy and at different intensities. In fact, when food is microwaved, the oven exerts a power input of about 1,000 watts or more. This radiation results in destruction and deformation of molecules of food, and in the formation of new compounds, called radiolytic compounds, unknown to man and nature. Neither established science nor our government had conducted tests--on the blood of the eaters--of the effects of eating various kinds of cooked foods until Hans Hertel--the first scientist to conceive of and carry out a quality study on the effects of microwaved nutrients on the blood and physiology of humans. The conclusion was clear: microwave cooking changed the nutrients so that significant unhealthy changes took place in the blood of the participants who consumed microwaved food--changes that could cause deterioration in the human systems. These changes included a decrease in all hemoglobin values and cholesterol values, especially the HDL (good cholesterol) and LDL (bad cholesterol) values and ratios. Lymphocytes (immune cells) showed a more distinct short-term decrease following the intake of microwaved food than after the intake of all the other variants. Each of these indicators, point in a direction away from robust health, and toward degeneration. Additionally, there was a highly significant association between the amount of microwave energy in the test foods and the luminous power of luminescent bacteria exposed to serum from test persons who ate the microwaved food. This led Hertel to the conclusion that such technically derived energies may be passed along to humans inductively via consumption of microwaved food. Other Effects There's some concern about the interaction between food and its wrapping in the microwave oven. The FDA is investigating " heat susceptor packaging, " which allows crusty foods like pizza to get crisp. The temperatures within these containers reach 400° to 500° F.--conditions not foreseen when the materials were originally approved for food use. A 1988 FDA Memorandum of Conference described a " breakdown " of the packaging, and states that " a considerable number of volatile components of the heat susceptor packaging become indirect food additives " from microwaving. The plastic wrap that works best in microwave cooking, polyvinyl chloride (PVC), has been under suspicion for some time. Apparently the migration of plasticizers from PVC films to food is highest where there is direct contact between the film and foods with a high surface-fat content. Plastic-wrapped microwaved meats (specifically pork and chicken) measured the most contamination. Like the susceptor packaging, plastic wraps were approved for food use before microwave ovens were envisioned. Most recently it was discovered that furans and dioxins migrate to food from microwaveable paper trays such as those that hold prepared meat dinners. Packaging problems aside, what about the potential hazard of the microwaves themselves? Since 1971, microwave ovens have been required to meet government standards that include door interlocks to prevent operation if the door is open, and limits on the amount of microwaves allowed to leave them. But all appliances eventually become worn or malfunction. Microwaves can escape if the door seal is loosened, or is disrupted by food debris or a paper towel. If a gas burner malfunctions, you can see it or smell it. But there is no such evidence if a microwave oven starts to emit radiation. The story of microwave emission standards is a disquieting one. According to a 1980 article in Science magazine, the standards were established in the 1950s, when research on microwaves was just beginning; by those concerned with military applications, where risk is inherent and accepted, not by medical or environmental experts, who strive for zero risk. Consumer Reports tests have shown microwave leakages to be within government standards. The trouble, according to editor Louis Slesin of Microwave News, is that " nobody knows where the threshold for ill effects really is. In my opinion, microwaves play a role in the development of cancer ... we don't know how little it takes. " A 1988 report from the National Institute of Environmental Health Science cited microwave ovens as one source of potentially hazardous EMFs. The report states, " Exposure possibly may affect the nervous system and susceptibility to chemical exposure. " The 1990 draft report from the EPA, sought to classify electromagnetic fields as a " probable human carcinogen, " placing them in the same category as PCBs, DDT, and formaldehyde. At this writing, that classification has been deleted from the EPA report (for technical and possibly for political reasons). Cancer Carcinogens are formed in virtually all foods tested. In scientific tests, no test food was subjected to more microwaving than necessary to accomplish the purpose of cooking, thawing or heating to insure sanitary ingestion. Microwaved foods caused stomach and intestinal cancerous growths, as well as a general degeneration of peripheral cellular tissues, with a gradual breakdown of the function of the digestive and execrative systems. There is a binding effect to radioactivity in the atmosphere, thus causing a marked increase in the amount of alpha and beta particle saturation in foods. There is a creation of cancer-causing agents within protein hydrolysate compounds in milk and cereal grains (unnatural proteins that are split into unnatural fragments by the addition of water). Microwaving prepared meats sufficiently, to insure sanitary ingestion, result in the formation of d-nitrosodienthanolamines, well-known carcinogens. Microwaving milk and cereal grains converted some of their amino acids into carcinogens. Thawing frozen fruits converted their glucoside (hydrolyzed dextrose) and galactoside (hydrolyzed alcohol) containing fractions into carcinogenic substances. Extremely short exposure of raw, cooked or frozen vegetables converted their plant alkaloids into carcinogens. Carcinogenic free radicals are formed within certain trace mineral molecular substances in microwaved plants, especially root vegetables. Due to chemical alterations within food substances, malfunctions are observed within the lymphatic systems causing a degeneration of the immune potentials of the body to protect against certain forms of neoplastics (abnormal growth of tissue). Microwaved foods cause a higher percentage of cancerous cells within the blood serum (cytomas--cell tumors such as sarcoma). Decrease In Nutritional Value Russian researchers reported a marked acceleration of structural degradation, leading to a decrease of 60 to 90% of the vital energy field content in all foods tested. Among the changes observed were: Decreased bio-availability of vitamin B-complex, vitamin C, vitamin E, essential minerals and lipotropics factors in all food tested. There is various damage to many plant substances, such as alkaloids, (organic nitrogen based elements), glucosides, galactosides and nitrilosides. The degradation of nucleo-proteins in meats was found. Microwave Sickness The Russians did research on thousands of workers who had been exposed to microwaves during the development of radar in the 1950's. Their research showed a breakdown of the human life-energy field, so serious that the Russians set strict limits of 10 microwatts exposure for workers and one microwatt for civilians. The first signs of microwave sickness are low blood pressure and slow pulse. The later and most common manifestations are chronic excitation of the sympathetic nervous system (stress syndrome) and high blood pressure. This phase also often includes headache, dizziness, eye pain, sleeplessness, irritability, anxiety, stomach pain, nervous tension, inability to concentrate, hair loss, plus an increased incidence of appendicitis, cataracts, reproductive problems, and cancer. The chronic symptoms are eventually succeeded by crisis of adrenal exhaustion and ischemic heart disease. Changes are observed in the blood chemistries and the rates of certain diseases among consumers of microwaved foods. Lymphatic disorders were observed, leading to decreased ability to prevent certain types of cancers. An increased rate of cancer cell formation was observed in the blood. Increased rates of stomach and intestinal cancers were observed. Higher rates of digestive disorders and gradual breakdown of the systems of elimination were observed. There is degeneration and destabilization of the external energy activated potentials of food utilization within the processes of human metabolism and of internal cellular membrane potentials while transferring catabolic processes into the blood serum from the digestive process. There is a degeneration and breakdown of nerve electrical circuits and loss of energy field symmetry in the neuroplexuses both in the front and the rear of the central and autonomic nervous systems, along with a loss of balance and circuiting of the bioelectric strengths within the ascending reticular activating system (controls the function of consciousness). There is long-term cumulative loss of vital energies within humans, animals and plants that are located within a 500-meter radius of operational equipment. There is long-lasting residual effects of magnetic " deposits " located throughout the nervous system and lymphatic system. There is destabilization and interruption in the production and maintence of hormones in males and females by continually eating microwaved foods. Continually eating food processed from a microwave oven, or using cell phones, causes permanent brain damage by shorting out electrical impulses in the brain (depolarizing or demagnetizing the brain tissue). There is markedly higher levels of brainwave disturbance in the alpha, theta, and delta wave signal patterns of persons exposed to microwave emission fields, with a resultant negative psychological effects, including loss of memory, loss of ability to concentrate, suppressed emotional threshold, deceleration of intellective processes, and interruptive sleep episodes. Microwaves cause long-term depolarization of tissue neuroelectric circuits with irreversible damage to the neuroelectrical integrity of various components of the nervous system, in individuals subjected to continual range emissive field effects of microwave apparatus, either in cooking apparatus, in transmission stations, and PCS cell phones. The human body cannot metabolize the unknown byproducts created in microwaved food. Burns Several reports have been published or radiation injury to the hand and arm while stirring food or removing containers. It's debatable how many injuries are caused by radiation exposure. Proof of an accident is difficult because microwave burns don't produce skin destruction as a fire burn does. The damage is to the peripheral nervous system beneath the skin. The microwave industry defends itself on this " lack of proof " basis. But at least two treating physicians report that patients who received radiation burns during a brief exposure of about 5 seconds had persistent neurological damage to the area even after the skin healed. In many homes, children are allowed to operate the microwave without supervision because of their perceived safety as compared to electric and gas stoves. But there's a danger of burns, besides the unknown radiation dangers. In 1988, the Consumer Product Safety Commission estimated 2,352 thermal burns and scalds from microwave ovens. In sheer number, that's less than 1/6 of the burns attributed to gas and electric ranges with ovens. But numbers don't tell the whole story. According to Matthew Maley of the Shriner's Burn Institute in Cincinnati, conventional cooking units are more broadly distributed, are used more often, and are more often employed in high-risk cooking. Maley's contention is that " oven users do not understand that microwaves heat in a way completely different from conventional heating appliances. This results in actions, which would not be considered by someone using an ordinary cooker. Haste and an attitude that microwave ovens are safer likewise results in injury. " One safety problem that's unique to microwave ovens, described by the Shriner's report, is the so-called eruption phenomenon. When clear liquids are heated in glass, ceramic, or smooth plastic containers, the liquid can become extremely hot even though it doesn't actually boil, and can erupt violently when moved or stirred, or when something (like a spoon or instant coffee) is added to it. How much exposure you get, whether to microwaves themselves or to byproducts of packaging, depends on the volume of use. Consider that the Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS) tells us the industry projects 4.7 billion " trays, cylinders, bowls, and cups " will be sold each year for use in microwave ovens. That statistic, of course, brings up yet another downside of microwaving--the solid-waste issue. Processed microwaveable foods are among the worst culprits of over-packaging. If you wanted to introduce an herbal supplement into the American mainstream and make any health claims for it, you would be subjected to exhaustive documentation and costly research. Yet the microwave-oven industry had only to prove that the dangerous microwaves could, be contained within the oven and not escape into the surrounding area where the radiation could do damage to people. The industry must admit that some microwaves escape even in the best-made ovens. So far, not one thought has been given by the industry to the possibility that the nutrients could be so altered as to be deleterious to health. This makes sense in a land that encourages farmers to poison crops and soils with massive amounts of synthesized chemicals, and encourages food processors to use additives that enhance shelf life of foods regardless of the potential for degrading the health of the consumer. In , " Erin " <truepatriot wrote: > > Quantum mechanics has indeed encountered many a mind-blowing > discovery, such as light being simultaneously a particle and a wave. > I enjoyed the movie What The Beep and thought it's main point that > mysticism and/or spirituality may be somewhat supported by the new > physics was a good one. On the other hand, there are many parts that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 I do not have conclusive data as to whether microwave ovens are safe or not and, in the absence of such evidence, I am inclined to play it safe and avoid them. Just because something has not been proved unhealthy does not mean it is safe. This has nothing to do with thinking that anything not scientifically proven is bunk. Having said this, however, I feel that any serious thought on the matter should be based on data that one can take seriously. Talking about rice that responds to insults or praise does not say anything good or bad about microwave ovens, but it delivers an inequivocal message that Dr. Masuro Emoto, the person making such claims, is not an authoritative voice I would like to lend ears to when it comes to scientific issues. Iza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I personally choose not to buy or use microwaves in my home. My father never would let us get one growing up, so as I got older It just never dawn on me to get one. I dont know the health facts in regards to using microwaves, but I do know that the food comes out much differently than if in the oven or stove. It doesnt sit will with me that this appliance nukes the food, cant get with it, so Ill stick with my oven, just my two cents (smile). , " Izaskun Fuentes Milani " <Izaskun wrote: > > I do not have conclusive data as to whether microwave ovens are safe or not > and, in the absence of such evidence, I am inclined to play it safe and > avoid them. Just because something has not been proved unhealthy does not > mean it is safe. This has nothing to do with thinking that anything not > scientifically proven is bunk. Having said this, however, I feel that any > serious thought on the matter should be based on data that one can take > seriously. Talking about rice that responds to insults or praise does not > say anything good or bad about microwave ovens, but it delivers an > inequivocal message that Dr. Masuro Emoto, the person making such claims, is > not an authoritative voice I would like to lend ears to when it comes to > scientific issues. > > Iza > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Of course, it doesn't really " nuke " the food at all. That's an unfortunately inaccurate colloquialism it has managed to pick up. I only use it to heat water or reheat food, but the dangers of unevenly cooked foods are at least absent in a vegetarian diet. -Erin www.zenpawn.com/vegblog , " Jefani Edison " <jefaniedison wrote: > > I personally choose not to buy or use microwaves in my home. My > father never would let us get one growing up, so as I got older It > just never dawn on me to get one. I dont know the health facts in > regards to using microwaves, but I do know that the food comes out > much differently than if in the oven or stove. It doesnt sit will > with me that this appliance nukes the food, cant get with it, so Ill > stick with my oven, just my two cents (smile). > > , " Izaskun Fuentes Milani " > <Izaskun@> wrote: > > > > I do not have conclusive data as to whether microwave ovens are > safe or not > > and, in the absence of such evidence, I am inclined to play it > safe and > > avoid them. Just because something has not been proved unhealthy > does not > > mean it is safe. This has nothing to do with thinking that > anything not > > scientifically proven is bunk. Having said this, however, I feel > that any > > serious thought on the matter should be based on data that one can > take > > seriously. Talking about rice that responds to insults or praise > does not > > say anything good or bad about microwave ovens, but it delivers an > > inequivocal message that Dr. Masuro Emoto, the person making such > claims, is > > not an authoritative voice I would like to lend ears to when it > comes to > > scientific issues. > > > > Iza > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 I agree with you, I'm very uncomfortable nuking my food... Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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