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Even the fruit has its place in propagating the plant it stems of

from if you start to dig in that direction. So, in that line of

thought I don't really think it is given freely of the plant.

 

The question for me personally is the one of sentient beings.

However, it is a religious one.

 

 

 

 

On Oct 9, 2006, at 15:18, Thia .... wrote:

 

> Do we have any Frutarians out there on this list? (One who eats only

> what is freely given of the plant; does not take the life of a plant.

> ie: apples, cucumbers, squash, seeds, etc)

>

> Now *that* is a diet that I fully agree with the reasoning behind it,

> but find it's standards to be well beyond my reach. This is a subject

> I have contemplated for years, much to the dismay of some of my

> friends- who think I am totally weird for even thinking about it!

>

> Onion and garlic would be next to impossible for me to give up!!!

> They are daily staples!! :)

>

> Thia

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> ===

>

> " To find the universal elements enough; to find the air and the water

> exhilarating; to be refreshed by a morning walk or an evening saunter;

> to be thrilled by the stars at night; to be elated over a bird's nest

> or a wildflower in spring - these are some of the rewards of the

> simple life. " ~John Burroughs

>

> =

>

> " Life can be lived more fully if people simply quit pretending to be

> who they were told to be, and be who they really are… " ~ Doug

> Firebaugh

>

> ===

>

>

>

>

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Well, fruit is *designed* to be eaten, so the seeds can be

pooped out at a later time and place to spread the plant's

genetic code.

 

-Erin

www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

 

 

, Armin Solognier

<asolognier wrote:

>

> Even the fruit has its place in propagating the plant it stems of

> from if you start to dig in that direction. So, in that line of

> thought I don't really think it is given freely of the plant.

>

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, " Thia .... " <bipolyf

wrote:

>

> I obviously hit a raw nerve with you, which was not my intent. I

am a firm

> believer in to each his own. I would never say my way is the right

way, or

> that there is only one way to look at something.

>

> Have you ever read any of the info on how plants react to various

types of

> music, or to verbal praise vs insults? I find it very compelling.

IMHO,

> who's to say that because plants do not have a " brain " as we know

it, that

> they do not feel, in their own way? I find the info out there

leads me to

> believe that they do.

 

I agree. It's kind of like when scientists say " oh no, there

couldn't be life on such-and-such a planet as it doesn't have

oxygen or carbon, etc.. " What makes it a requirement that

life have these elements to exist? Perhaps this other planet

has silicon-based lifeforms.

 

> I consider myself empathic, and have often felt the " pain " of

majestic trees

> and such when they have been downed.

 

I too have felt the sadness of a large tree that had been left

all alone in the middle of a parking lot when all its friends

had been cut down around it.

 

-Erin

www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

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That was my thought, too...but I didn't know how to tactfully put it!! LOL

 

Thia

 

 

On 10/9/06, Erin <truepatriot wrote:

>

> Well, fruit is *designed* to be eaten, so the seeds can be

> pooped out at a later time and place to spread the plant's

> genetic code.

>

>

> <%40>,

> Armin Solognier

> <asolognier wrote:

> >

> > Even the fruit has its place in propagating the plant it stems of

> > from if you start to dig in that direction. So, in that line of

> > thought I don't really think it is given freely of the plant.

> >

>

>

 

 

 

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I read " The Secret Life of Plants " in the mid '70s. It explained

the scientific experiments on plants and their " feelings " , etc.

Most of the information still applies. It is a great book.

 

GB

 

, " Erin " <truepatriot

wrote:

>

> , " Thia .... " <bipolyf@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I obviously hit a raw nerve with you, which was not my intent.

I

> am a firm

> > believer in to each his own. I would never say my way is the

right

> way, or

> > that there is only one way to look at something.

> >

> > Have you ever read any of the info on how plants react to

various

> types of

> > music, or to verbal praise vs insults? I find it very

compelling.

> IMHO,

> > who's to say that because plants do not have a " brain " as we

know

> it, that

> > they do not feel, in their own way? I find the info out there

> leads me to

> > believe that they do.

>

> I agree. It's kind of like when scientists say " oh no, there

> couldn't be life on such-and-such a planet as it doesn't have

> oxygen or carbon, etc.. " What makes it a requirement that

> life have these elements to exist? Perhaps this other planet

> has silicon-based lifeforms.

>

> > I consider myself empathic, and have often felt the " pain " of

> majestic trees

> > and such when they have been downed.

>

> I too have felt the sadness of a large tree that had been left

> all alone in the middle of a parking lot when all its friends

> had been cut down around it.

>

> -Erin

> www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

>

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I didn't realize that book went back that far! wow. I'd only recently (few

years ago, I think?) heard of it.

 

Thia

 

On 10/10/06, greatyoga <greatyoga wrote:

>

> I read " The Secret Life of Plants " in the mid '70s. It explained

> the scientific experiments on plants and their " feelings " , etc.

> Most of the information still applies. It is a great book.

>

> GB

>

 

 

 

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Don't these people eat leafy greens too like spinach and lettuce, etc? If so it

would seem they could get all their nutritional needs met from it.

 

 

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Thia ....

Monday, October 09, 2006 3:18 PM

Throwing a " new " word into the mix....

 

 

Do we have any Frutarians out there on this list? (One who eats only

what is freely given of the plant; does not take the life of a plant.

ie: apples, cucumbers, squash, seeds, etc)

 

Now *that* is a diet that I fully agree with the reasoning behind it,

but find it's standards to be well beyond my reach. This is a subject

I have contemplated for years, much to the dismay of some of my

friends- who think I am totally weird for even thinking about it!

 

Onion and garlic would be next to impossible for me to give up!!!

They are daily staples!! :)

 

Thia

 

 

 

 

 

 

--

===

 

" To find the universal elements enough; to find the air and the water

exhilarating; to be refreshed by a morning walk or an evening saunter;

to be thrilled by the stars at night; to be elated over a bird's nest

or a wildflower in spring - these are some of the rewards of the

simple life. " ~John Burroughs

 

=

 

" Life can be lived more fully if people simply quit pretending to be

who they were told to be, and be who they really are… " ~ Doug

Firebaugh

 

===

 

 

 

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