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Is it true what vegans say that we are actually killing calves by

eating dairy products?

I was told no matter what cheese I'd eat - animal or vegetable rennet -

I would kill calves by simply eating cheese, because calves are taken

away from their mothers and killed in order for us to take the milk?

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Sadly that is the truth.

 

April

 

 

On Oct 14, 2006, at 9:15 AM, ma_doba wrote:

 

> Is it true what vegans say that we are actually killing calves by

> eating dairy products?

> I was told no matter what cheese I'd eat - animal or vegetable

> rennet -

> I would kill calves by simply eating cheese, because calves are taken

> away from their mothers and killed in order for us to take the milk?

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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yes. A cow must be impregnated in order to lactate. Female babies are

raised to be milking cows. Male babies are of no use to the dairy industry,

and become " veal " . To say as little as possible here, lest I offend/upset

someone: They are not allowed to build any muscle, because it wouldn't be

" tender " .

 

 

 

On 10/14/06, ma_doba <ma_doba wrote:

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> Is it true what vegans say that we are actually killing calves by

> eating dairy products?

> I was told no matter what cheese I'd eat - animal or vegetable rennet -

> I would kill calves by simply eating cheese, because calves are taken

> away from their mothers and killed in order for us to take the milk?

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Cows don't have to have babies to lactate. They can give them hormones that

trick the cow's body so it will think it is full term pregnant and produce the

most amount of milk. We grew up in an area of dairy cows and they all said

they did this.

 

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Thia ....

Saturday, October 14, 2006 1:26 PM

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yes. A cow must be impregnated in order to lactate. Female babies are

raised to be milking cows. Male babies are of no use to the dairy industry,

and become " veal " . To say as little as possible here, lest I offend/upset

someone: They are not allowed to build any muscle, because it wouldn't be

" tender " .

 

On 10/14/06, ma_doba <ma_doba wrote:

>

> Is it true what vegans say that we are actually killing calves by

> eating dairy products?

> I was told no matter what cheese I'd eat - animal or vegetable rennet -

> I would kill calves by simply eating cheese, because calves are taken

> away from their mothers and killed in order for us to take the milk?

>

>

>

 

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Also they said that the cows will continue to produce milk as long as you milk

them once a day even without hormones, but it won't be as much. Probably like

a human mother, she produces milk as long as she is nursing daily.

Judy

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wwjd

Saturday, October 14, 2006 1:47 PM

Re: Calves

 

 

Cows don't have to have babies to lactate. They can give them hormones that

trick the cow's body so it will think it is full term pregnant and produce the

most amount of milk. We grew up in an area of dairy cows and they all said they

did this.

 

-

Thia ....

Saturday, October 14, 2006 1:26 PM

Re: Calves

 

yes. A cow must be impregnated in order to lactate. Female babies are

raised to be milking cows. Male babies are of no use to the dairy industry,

and become " veal " . To say as little as possible here, lest I offend/upset

someone: They are not allowed to build any muscle, because it wouldn't be

" tender " .

 

On 10/14/06, ma_doba <ma_doba wrote:

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> Is it true what vegans say that we are actually killing calves by

> eating dairy products?

> I was told no matter what cheese I'd eat - animal or vegetable rennet -

> I would kill calves by simply eating cheese, because calves are taken

> away from their mothers and killed in order for us to take the milk?

>

>

>

 

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I do hope you're right, Judy. I feel like crying all

day and I feel a terrible sense of guilt, but still I

don't feel strong enough to take the big step and go

vegan. :(

Thank you all for answering.

 

Maria

 

--- wwjd <jtwigg wrote:

 

> Also they said that the cows will continue to

> produce milk as long as you milk them once a day

> even without hormones, but it won't be as much.

> Probably like a human mother, she produces milk as

> long as she is nursing daily.

> Judy

> -

> wwjd

>

> Saturday, October 14, 2006 1:47 PM

> Re: Calves

>

>

> Cows don't have to have babies to lactate. They

> can give them hormones that trick the cow's body so

> it will think it is full term pregnant and produce

> the most amount of milk. We grew up in an area of

> dairy cows and they all said they did this.

>

> -

> Thia ....

>

> Saturday, October 14, 2006 1:26 PM

> Re: Calves

>

> yes. A cow must be impregnated in order to

> lactate. Female babies are

> raised to be milking cows. Male babies are of no

> use to the dairy industry,

> and become " veal " . To say as little as possible

> here, lest I offend/upset

> someone: They are not allowed to build any muscle,

> because it wouldn't be

> " tender " .

>

> On 10/14/06, ma_doba <ma_doba wrote:

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> > Is it true what vegans say that we are actually

> killing calves by

> > eating dairy products?

> > I was told no matter what cheese I'd eat -

> animal or vegetable rennet -

> > I would kill calves by simply eating cheese,

> because calves are taken

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> us to take the milk?

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well then, I guess the answer to ma_doba' s question would depend on which

dairy the milk is coming from.

 

 

 

On 10/14/06, wwjd <jtwigg wrote:

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> Cows don't have to have babies to lactate. They can give them hormones

> that trick the cow's body so it will think it is full term pregnant and

> produce the most amount of milk. We grew up in an area of dairy cows and

> they all said they did this.

>

>

>

 

 

 

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The male calves are sold for veal, and I'm sure the females are either made into

more dairy cows or sold for meat. Letting the calf nurse would decrease the

amount of milk gotten from each cow.

 

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From what I understand of the process, hormones are given to make the cow *keep*

producing, not start the process... even if hormones are used to stimulate

lactation, how healthy is that for whoever drinks the milk??

 

Kadee Sedtal

 

 

 

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my understanding is that the cow does not produce the amount of milk they want

witihout having a calf on a regular basis. They then add the hormones to

increase milk production.

 

Kathleen

 

Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote:

From what I understand of the process, hormones are given to make the

cow *keep* producing, not start the process... even if hormones are used to

stimulate lactation, how healthy is that for whoever drinks the milk??

 

Kadee Sedtal

 

 

 

 

 

 

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