Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Hello! You seem to be an educated group, Can anyone direct me to the best research studies that show a vegetarian diet is healthier without eating meat? It would help if it was not biased. I hear so much conflicting info. I've heard that a vegetarian diet is not balanced unless supplemented and ancestors wouldn't have lived without our advanced technology. And meat/fish is the only complete protein. Then, i hear meat is dead, which is true but when i think about it, so are processed and cooked food (no enzymes). Can anyone please point me in the right direction for published research please? My head is spinning and I consider myself an educated consumer. I purchase organic,free range and do not support factory farms. I'm not a Dr but really want to know more. I even read in Jordan Rubin's book that he agreed a vegetarian diet is not balanced. I do see that one area the top nutritionists and authors seem to agree on is that eating steamed / raw vegetables and juicing is very healing. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 In a message dated 10/21/06 5:44:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, loveveggiesoup writes: > Can anyone direct me to the > best research studies that show a vegetarian diet is healthier without > eating meat? No matter what you read, unless it propaganda from the National Cattleman's Association, a plant based diet is far healthier. I just finished reading the very well researched The Food Revolution by Joh Robbins which might be a book that would interest you. Also, as someone mentioned, The China Study is another good one. In all that I've read (and I've read a lot) I have yet to read that stuffing yourself with meat and animal products is the path to good health. In The Food Revolution John Robbins states that on the whole Vegetarians who eat a healthful plant based diet live 6-8 years longer than non vegetarians. TM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=49091 I think this is very positive info. Just talk to an ex meat eater, they usually have overall better health, feel less full after a meal, corrects a lot of the indigestion problems many non-vegetarians seem to have. Chelsea , " loveveggiesoup " <loveveggiesoup wrote: > > Hello! You seem to be an educated group, Can anyone direct me to the > best research studies that show a vegetarian diet is healthier without > eating meat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 The China Study would be a good book to read. It's non-biased, just states the facts from the studies that took place. Hope this is of help to you, Mona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 There are lots of studies that show vegetarians have lower of different types of illnesses. However, just eating a vegetarian diet will not guarantee health. It depends on what you need and what you eat. If you just eatdeep fried tofu stew with cheese gravy with cheesecake for dessert and a diet tea sweetened with artificial sweetener, you are probably on the way to having problems. In the early '70s I saw Dick Gregory and he said he went on a vegetarian diet and gained lots ofweight. It was not until he did cleansing diets that he became healthy. GB , " loveveggiesoup " <loveveggiesoup wrote: > > Hello! You seem to be an educated group, Can anyone direct me to the > best research studies that show a vegetarian diet is healthier without > eating meat? It would help if it was not biased. I hear so much > conflicting info. I've heard that a vegetarian diet is not balanced > unless supplemented and ancestors wouldn't have lived without our > advanced technology. And meat/fish is the only complete protein. Then, i > hear meat is dead, which is true but when i think about it, so are > processed and cooked food (no enzymes). Can anyone please point me in > the right direction for published research please? My head is spinning > and I consider myself an educated consumer. I purchase organic,free > range and do not support factory farms. I'm not a Dr but really want > to know more. I even read in Jordan Rubin's book that he agreed a > vegetarian diet is not balanced. > > I do see that one area the top nutritionists and authors seem to agree > on is that eating steamed / raw vegetables and juicing is very healing. > > Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 , " loveveggiesoup " <loveveggiesoup wrote: > > Hello! You seem to be an educated group, Can anyone direct me to the > best research studies that show a vegetarian diet is healthier without > eating meat? Go to reliable, scientific based sites for info. Dean Ornish showed that to reverse heart disease it is necessary to go on a low-fat vegetarian diet http://www.webmd.com/content/article/74/89186 or http://www.ornish.com Personally, I think alot of him. I also highly suggest going to the American Dietetic Association website - www.eatright.org and search for vegetarian. Position Statement: It is the position of the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada that appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. They list several articles in publish journals supporting this statement. The American Institute for Cancer research suggests using their " New American Plate " as a guide for eating. They suggest that the increase in vegetables and fruits can reduce ones chances of cancer. See www.aicr.org for info Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 What I would do is just type " vegetarian diet " into google. You'll get both sides. As for a veg diet not being balanced- I've been one for ten years and I'm healthier than most people I know (personally- I'm sure many on this list have the same good health as I do). Both my children have been vegetarian since birth and they too are completely healthy and far beyond their ages in intelligence. Done in a smart way, a vegetarian diet can prevent a lot of common issues and lead to a longer life. Think about what would happen if you left a piece of meat on the counter- in a few hours it will be no good, and you'd get sick if you ate it. How long does it take for food to pass through the human digestive system? Even partially digested, some of those nasty things that rot on the counter and make you sick will end up in your system. Wonder why so few vegetarians get cancer? You can eat many, many different vegetables after they've been out a few hours... trust me, I know... I was in college and very hungry. Wow, that turned into a rant, didn't it? Sheesh, I need to go feed my rats. Kadee Sedtal " If any man says he hates war more than I do, he better have a knife, that's all I have to say. " -Jack Handey All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 <<<Hello! You seem to be an educated group, Can anyone direct me to the best research studies that show a vegetarian diet is healthier without eating meat? It would help if it was not biased. I hear so much conflicting info. I've heard that a vegetarian diet is not balanced unless supplemented and ancestors wouldn't have lived without our advanced technology. And meat/fish is the only complete protein. Then, i hear meat is dead, which is true but when i think about it, so are processed and cooked food (no enzymes). Can anyone please point me in the right direction for published research please? My head is spinning and I consider myself an educated consumer. I purchase organic,free range and do not support factory farms. I'm not a Dr but really want to know more. I even read in Jordan Rubin's book that he agreed a vegetarian diet is not balanced.>>>>>>>> Read " The China Study " , " Diet for a new America " , and " The Food Revolution " - all available through Amazon. All the proof anyone needs. Seriously the China Study is the most intense information I think. Cheers, DonnaAnne " We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals. " - Immanuel Kant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 http://www.nedleypublishing.com/proof-positive.htm This is one great book on nutrition and the vegetarian diet, with good research. It is well written and easy to understand and find info you need on so many things. It is loaded with so much good info. It is the book that I reference over and over again. I've been using it to teach health to my children in our homeschool. It is so important that they also know why this vegetarian lifestyle is so very good for them. I've heard this author, and really recommend going to hear him if you have a chance. You can also buy it on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/104-4909363-9770360?url=search-alias%3Dstri\ pbooks & field-keywords=neil+nedley+-+proof+positive Judy T. <<<Hello! You seem to be an educated group, Can anyone direct me to the best research studies that show a vegetarian diet is healthier without eating meat? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 I agree with you ,but when you live with a non vegetarian spouse it is hard to keep focused. I have read dozens of books and articles that state eating a plant based diet is so much healthier then eating meat. Of course there are those that are biased the other way and say we were made to eat meat, but they are really in the minority. I wish you good hunting as you research vegetarianism. Judy TendrMoon wrote: In a message dated 10/21/06 5:44:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, loveveggiesoup writes: > Can anyone direct me to the > best research studies that show a vegetarian diet is healthier without > eating meat? No matter what you read, unless it propaganda from the National Cattleman's Association, a plant based diet is far healthier. I just finished reading the very well researched The Food Revolution by Joh Robbins which might be a book that would interest you. Also, as someone mentioned, The China Study is another good one. In all that I've read (and I've read a lot) I have yet to read that stuffing yourself with meat and animal products is the path to good health. In The Food Revolution John Robbins states that on the whole Vegetarians who eat a healthful plant based diet live 6-8 years longer than non vegetarians. TM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 My spouse is not vegetarian he has supported my vegetarianism as long as I don't force it on him. He cooks, if he wants to eat meat he cooks it. I have been vegetarian for almost 15 years. We have been married for 24 years. g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 If you take over the grocery shopping responsibilities and stop buying meat, the the non-veg spouse becomes a non-issue. I agree with you ,but when you live with a non vegetarian spouse it is hard to keep focused. I have read dozens of books and articles that state eating a plant based diet is so much healthier then eating meat. Of course there are those that are biased the other way and say we were made to eat meat, but they are really in the minority. I wish you good hunting as you research vegetarianism. Judy All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I am the only veg in my house. Man, son, and daughter. (other son just moved to SC, he is not a veg either) How I handle it, is I have come to a happy medium. They know through all they have heard that eating meat is not as healthy, and that Americans eat way too much meat. This helps me a great deal, because they know that when they eat a meal with no meat, " it is what they should be doing " They still want their meat, but settle for it much less often. I will only cook chicken and fish for them. If they want red meat they know they must obtain that on their own. Abut 2 nights out of the week I will make fish or chicken for them, along with a good variety of veggies, and I just eat the veggies. Works well. On the other nights it works well too. I can't force them to change entirely, but I can help them change some, and it can only be good. hugs, Chanda - robin koloms Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:51 AM Re: Vegetarian Research If you take over the grocery shopping responsibilities and stop buying meat, the the non-veg spouse becomes a non-issue. I agree with you ,but when you live with a non vegetarian spouse it is hard to keep focused. I have read dozens of books and articles that state eating a plant based diet is so much healthier then eating meat. Of course there are those that are biased the other way and say we were made to eat meat, but they are really in the minority. I wish you good hunting as you research vegetarianism. Judy All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Hi, I have a husband that is not a vegetarian. I have been a vegetarian for over 25 years and it does make some meals a little hard. But if he wants meat he fixes it to go along with what we are having but he hardly ever does that. When we have tacos he fixes his hamburger and I have my refried beans along with all of the other fun vegie stuff. I make a vegetarian Lasagne and he always says it is the best tasting ever and does not complain about not having the meat and my meat eating brother says he thought it tasted like it had meat in it-(which is doesn't). I just never make it a big issue and so my husband doesn't either. My three daughters were also raised as vegetarians and now that a couple of them have spouses they do basically the same as I do and the husbands are fine with it. My Husband usually just eats what meat he wants at lunch time at work when we are not together. Good luck and Thanks everyone for all of the great information. I just recently joined and I am totally enjoying the recipes and comments. I will be submitting some of my fun recipes really soon. Thanks again, angeldove37 , robin koloms <rkoloms wrote: > > If you take over the grocery shopping responsibilities and stop buying meat, the the non-veg spouse becomes a non-issue. > > > I agree with you ,but when you live with a non vegetarian spouse it is hard to keep focused. I have read dozens of books and articles that state eating a plant based diet is so much healthier then eating meat. Of course there are those that are biased the other way and say we were made to eat meat, but they are really in the minority. I wish you good hunting as you research vegetarianism. Judy > > > > All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I live with a non-vegetarian spouse and child. I go to the grocery store and cook. At first, I made separate meals but I am gradually finding things that I can slip in with both that they will eat and I don't have to make more than one meal. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Fun thing here, my husband Jeff has listened to the reasons why being vegetarian is healthier, and would rather eat meat-free food than cook something himself. There's never been a discussion about it. He used to bring meat into the house and cook it himself on occasion, but once while I was pregnant with my son (nauseous all the time!) Jeff put a can of shrimp in his ramen noodles. I threw up, then told him to enjoy the meal because I was *not* going to have that in our home ever again. I don't know what I'd do if someone brought meat into our house... probably freak out or something. Kadee Sedtal " If any man says he hates war more than I do, he better have a knife, that's all I have to say. " -Jack Handey Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I find I have to do the same thing. Like mashed Potatos using soymilk and soy margarine to mash it with . Then the only thing i have to do is make a seperate meat dish for him. We both enjoy the other things and I never make a dairy cheese cake I always make it with either Tofu or follow the traditional instructions using soy sour cream instead of creamcheese. Judy H Reed Deborah <debjreed wrote: I live with a non-vegetarian spouse and child. I go to the grocery store and cook. At first, I made separate meals but I am gradually finding things that I can slip in with both that they will eat and I don't have to make more than one meal. Debbie Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I have been cooking for a non vegetarian for almost 15 years. HOwever, I must admit that he is adaptable--he will eat a lot of vegetarian food. He does well the first night I serve something, but I have to get creative for him to eat most vegetarian leftovers. He does fine with things like macaroni and cheese, but when it comes to " glop " as he describes my huge multi-day bean and vegetable stews, I must get very creative. Also, he is type II diabetic having consumed an awful diet before I came along. His blood sugar is usually the lowest when I include " glop " in his meals. Kathleen Eureka CA > I live with a non-vegetarian spouse and child. I go > to the grocery store and cook. At first, I made > separate meals but I am gradually finding things that > I can slip in with both that they will eat and I don't > have to make more than one meal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Hello, This topic was most interesting to read and absorb. The China Study is certainly on my list to look for at the library. However, what has motivated me to reply ... [)] is Angeldove's testimony of her Lasagna, which I'm sure we would all agree we would love to see (recipie) if she is willing. I did type in " lasagna " for a search string... the number of hits was a little overwhelming. I hope you all can see my attempt to have fun and tease a bit. (it just sounded so yummy!!!) Paco ALL rivers do what they can for the Sea Thomas Fuller: Gnomolagis, 1732 , " angeldove37 " <angeldove37 wrote: > > Hi, > I have a husband that is not a vegetarian. > I make a vegetarian Lasagne and he always says it is the best tasting > ever and does not complain about not having the meat and my meat > eating brother says he thought it tasted like it had meat in it-(which > I just > recently joined and I am totally enjoying the recipes and comments. I > will be submitting some of my fun recipes really soon. Thanks again, > angeldove37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 Debbie, This makes sense. " glop " is much easier to digest than many raw and " hard " foods. If the food does not digest, it turns to toxins. Also more nutrients are extracted. GB _________________________ Yeah like that red meat that sits in your colon for a while. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 , TendrMoon wrote: > > No matter what you read, unless it propaganda from the National Cattleman's > Association, a plant based diet is far healthier. I just finished reading the > very well researched The Food Revolution by Joh Robbins which might be a book > that would interest you. Also, as someone mentioned, The China Study is > another good one. > > In all that I've read (and I've read a lot) I have yet to read that stuffing > yourself with meat and animal products is the path to good health. In The > Food Revolution John Robbins states that on the whole Vegetarians who eat a > healthful plant based diet live 6-8 years longer than non vegetarians. > > TM Amazingly enough, there are plenty of sources peddling the carnivorous lifestyle as healthy, either from a religious or evolutionary rationale. For example, www.mercola.com , www.beyondveg.com , and the books Nourishing Traditions and We Want To Live. I find it all bogus, but when you're a member of other alternative medicine , you are constantly prseented (no, I should say, confronted) with such pseudo-science. Drives me bananas! -Erin www.zenpawn.com/vegblog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2006 Report Share Posted October 24, 2006 These foods still have fiber but not as much as raw. Most people in the West cannot digest a lot of raw food. this is about the 3rd time I am posting this. The way to tell if a person is digesting food is if the stool floats. If the stool floats, then you are floating; if the stool sinks, then you are sinking. Raw food usually comes out looking pretty much the way it went in. If one cannot digest food, then they do not get the nutrients and the undigested food turns into " ama " or toxins. The body extracts the mineral (metals) from the food .. Metal is heavier than water. If the metals are in the food, then the stool sinks. Everyone can make their own evaluation. This is a basic tenet of yogis who fast and have " perfect " digestion, Ayurveda and my own experience. it is written in the yogic scriptures. GB , Reed Deborah <debjreed wrote: > > Debbie, > > This makes sense. " glop " is much easier to digest than > many raw > and " hard " foods. If the food does not digest, it > turns to toxins. > Also more nutrients are extracted. > > GB > _________________________ > > Yeah like that red meat that sits in your colon for a > while. > Debbie > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Usually stools sink because of their bulk and fiber content. How much does a complete vitamin and mineral tablet weigh compared to your daily food intake??? The percentage by weight of vitamins and minerals, especially metals, present in your food is so tiny compared to the actual weight of the food you are eating there is no effect by ingested metals on if your bowel movements sink or swim...unless you are eating your spare change. Floaters are stools that have an unusually high gas content. Sometimes the gases produced by bacteria in our gut don't have a chance to collect into a large gas bubble (expelled gas folks), but remain dispersed in the feces. The poop then has a lower density than water and floats. " I would worry more about color and consistancy to indicate digestive health. If you eat a high fiber diet your body will keep the digestive process moving at a regular rate and there won't be toxin build up in the digestive tract because it all gets pushed out by the waste materials and undigested cellulose fiber from the veggies we eat. This is why Vegetarians generally tend to be more regular and have less constipation problems. Fiber keeps us going!! If there is a major concern with toxin buildup there are many colon cleansers on the market. Their main ingredient is fiber from Psyllum seeds & husks. Janis , " greatyoga " <greatyoga wrote: > > These foods still have fiber but not as much as raw. Most people in > the West cannot digest a lot of raw food. this is about the 3rd time > I am posting this. The way to tell if a person is digesting food is > if the stool floats. If the stool floats, then you are floating; if > the stool sinks, then you are sinking. Raw food usually comes out > looking pretty much the way it went in. If one cannot digest food, > then they do not get the nutrients and the undigested food turns into > " ama " or toxins. The body extracts the mineral (metals) from the food > . Metal is heavier than water. If the metals are in the food, then > the stool sinks. Everyone can make their own evaluation. This is a > basic tenet of yogis who fast and have " perfect " digestion, Ayurveda > and my own experience. it is written in the yogic scriptures. > > GB > > , Reed Deborah <debjreed@> > wrote: > > > > Debbie, > > > > This makes sense. " glop " is much easier to digest than > > many raw > > and " hard " foods. If the food does not digest, it > > turns to toxins. > > Also more nutrients are extracted. > > > > GB > > _________________________ > > > > Yeah like that red meat that sits in your colon for a > > while. > > Debbie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Maybe that is more information then I wanted.(LOL) I know people who have gone High Raw and seem to do fine. I'm about 50%. I cook grains and beans, and of course soy milk is cooked, but fruit and veggies are mostly raw, except potatos. Judy H jandor9 <jandor9 wrote: Usually stools sink because of their bulk and fiber content. How much does a complete vitamin and mineral tablet weigh compared to your daily food intake??? The percentage by weight of vitamins and minerals, especially metals, present in your food is so tiny compared to the actual weight of the food you are eating there is no effect by ingested metals on if your bowel movements sink or swim...unless you are eating your spare change. Floaters are stools that have an unusually high gas content. Sometimes the gases produced by bacteria in our gut don't have a chance to collect into a large gas bubble (expelled gas folks), but remain dispersed in the feces. The poop then has a lower density than water and floats. " I would worry more about color and consistancy to indicate digestive health. If you eat a high fiber diet your body will keep the digestive process moving at a regular rate and there won't be toxin build up in the digestive tract because it all gets pushed out by the waste materials and undigested cellulose fiber from the veggies we eat. This is why Vegetarians generally tend to be more regular and have less constipation problems. Fiber keeps us going!! If there is a major concern with toxin buildup there are many colon cleansers on the market. Their main ingredient is fiber from Psyllum seeds & husks. Janis , " greatyoga " <greatyoga wrote: > > These foods still have fiber but not as much as raw. Most people in > the West cannot digest a lot of raw food. this is about the 3rd time > I am posting this. The way to tell if a person is digesting food is > if the stool floats. If the stool floats, then you are floating; if > the stool sinks, then you are sinking. Raw food usually comes out > looking pretty much the way it went in. If one cannot digest food, > then they do not get the nutrients and the undigested food turns into > " ama " or toxins. The body extracts the mineral (metals) from the food > . Metal is heavier than water. If the metals are in the food, then > the stool sinks. Everyone can make their own evaluation. This is a > basic tenet of yogis who fast and have " perfect " digestion, Ayurveda > and my own experience. it is written in the yogic scriptures. > > GB > > , Reed Deborah <debjreed@> > wrote: > > > > Debbie, > > > > This makes sense. " glop " is much easier to digest than > > many raw > > and " hard " foods. If the food does not digest, it > > turns to toxins. > > Also more nutrients are extracted. > > > > GB > > _________________________ > > > > Yeah like that red meat that sits in your colon for a > > while. > > Debbie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I just wanted to present some scientific fact to balance the views previously posted about the subject. We are omnivores, we can't digest some of the substances in grains or other plants that do not produce fruit (like potatoes), unless they are cooked. But we can eat all the raw fruit & veggies we want. I eat raw veggies all the time and have no problems at all. No " raw " diet, I just like the crunch :>) Janis , Judith Herman <jmherman54 wrote: > > Maybe that is more information then I wanted.(LOL) I know people who have gone High Raw and seem to do fine. I'm about 50%. I cook grains and beans, and of course soy milk is cooked, but fruit and veggies are mostly raw, except potatos. Judy H > > jandor9 <jandor9 wrote: Usually stools sink because of their bulk and fiber content. How much > does a complete vitamin and mineral tablet weigh compared to your > daily food intake??? The percentage by weight of vitamins and > minerals, especially metals, present in your food is so tiny compared > to the actual weight of the food you are eating there is no effect by > ingested metals on if your bowel movements sink or swim...unless you > are eating your spare change. > Floaters are stools that have an unusually high gas content. Sometimes > the gases produced by bacteria in our gut don't have a chance to > collect into a large gas bubble (expelled gas folks), but remain > dispersed in the feces. The poop then has a lower density than water > and floats. " I would worry more about color and consistancy to > indicate digestive health. > > If you eat a high fiber diet your body will keep the digestive > process moving at a regular rate and there won't be toxin build up in > the digestive tract because it all gets pushed out by the waste > materials and undigested cellulose fiber from the veggies we eat. > This is why Vegetarians generally tend to be more regular and have > less constipation problems. Fiber keeps us going!! If there is a > major concern with toxin buildup there are many colon cleansers on > the market. Their main ingredient is fiber from Psyllum seeds & husks. > > Janis > > , " greatyoga " <greatyoga@> > wrote: > > > > These foods still have fiber but not as much as raw. Most people in > > the West cannot digest a lot of raw food. this is about the 3rd > time > > I am posting this. The way to tell if a person is digesting food is > > if the stool floats. If the stool floats, then you are floating; if > > the stool sinks, then you are sinking. Raw food usually comes out > > looking pretty much the way it went in. If one cannot digest food, > > then they do not get the nutrients and the undigested food turns > into > > " ama " or toxins. The body extracts the mineral (metals) from the > food > > . Metal is heavier than water. If the metals are in the food, then > > the stool sinks. Everyone can make their own evaluation. This is a > > basic tenet of yogis who fast and have " perfect " digestion, Ayurveda > > and my own experience. it is written in the yogic scriptures. > > > > GB > > > > , Reed Deborah <debjreed@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Debbie, > > > > > > This makes sense. " glop " is much easier to digest than > > > many raw > > > and " hard " foods. If the food does not digest, it > > > turns to toxins. > > > Also more nutrients are extracted. > > > > > > GB > > > _________________________ > > > > > > Yeah like that red meat that sits in your colon for a > > > while. > > > Debbie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your email and more, right on the new .com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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