Salt and blood pressure

[Guest guest]

Wow! That's interesting. My blood pressure is also low 80/50. I love

salty foods too. It's good news that I probably NEED salt!

 

Susanne

 

<How's your blood pressure? If it's okay, don't worry about the salt. I

have low blood pressure and actually *need* more sodium in my diet

(doctor's orders).>

[Guest guest]

I have never understood sodium and BP. My sister eats

no salt and never did, she has very high BP and I

cover everything in salt and my BP is so low that I

can't get up quickly at times or I feel faint. We are

all different.

Donna

 

--- jenntinysam <jlbart1974 wrote:

 

> I have really low blood pressure and I use lots of

> Salt on

> everything.. My husband thinks Im nuts.. He went on

> a low sodium

> diet befroe he went to driving a truck so that he

> would pass the

> physical and not have high blood pressure when they

> did it.. He

> wasnt much of a salt eater before that but for me to

> try to cook

> with out salt was a biggy for me..

>

> Jenn B

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Yes, we all are different, hence the low-salt recommendation is a general

warning, yet it's not going to be damaging to us all. I have had high blood

pressure since I was 19 years old (runs in my father's side of the family) yet I

have a sedentary, obese sister who does not. (She gets that from my mom, who

has LOW blood pressure.) I work with an African American woman, 30 years old,

thin, active and otherwise very healthy, but her blood pressure is through the

roof. She has been hospitalized several times for fear that she might have a

stroke. (African Americans are more prone to high blood pressure and Type II

Diabetes than both Caucasians or Asians--who, by the way--consume a lot of

sodium.) Does that mean we should throw caution to the wind and consume sodium

by the bowl full? Of course not...but if you are thin, fit and healthy, and

have no other risk factors, there's no reason why you should deprive yourself if

you like it. Besides, salt does not " cause " high blood pressure per se...it

just exacerbates the symptoms.

 

--Celia--

 

Salt and blood pressure

Posted by: " Donnalilacflower " thelilacflower thelilacflower

Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:57 pm (PST)

I have never understood sodium and BP. My sister eats

no salt and never did, she has very high BP and I

cover everything in salt and my BP is so low that I

can't get up quickly at times or I feel faint. We are

all different.

Donna

 

 

[Guest guest]

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Celia Browne

Besides, salt does not " cause " high blood pressure per se...it just

exacerbates the symptoms.

 

--Celia--

 

I also stay away from grapefruit and licorice.

Sue

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I understand about the black licorice as it can raise blood pressure (only

black, not the red stuff), but why grapefruit? I've never heard of it raising

blood pressure, so that takes me by surprise. I know that some pills taken with

grapefruit or grapefruit juice can have a diminished performance ability, but

grapefruit can be safely eaten later in the day when the medication is farther

down the digestive tract and past the point of interacting. Example: my dad is

on numerous meds for blood pressure and I recently found out that my mom was

forbidding him to eat grapefruit. My dad LOVES grapefruit. I asked why and she

showed me the Rx literature that said not to consume grapefruits or grapefruit

juice while taking this medication, but a conversation with the pharmacist

cleared it up. She interpreted it to be for the duration of his taking the

medication (forever) as opposed to what it really meant...don't ingest at the

same time! He's now happily eating grapefruit for dinner instead of lunch.

Likewise with his thyroid medication, eating cruciferous vegetables and soy

products reduces the hormone's ability to perform its job properly, so when he

was first diagnosed with low thyroid, my mom cut him off. Well, my dad loves

broccoli, cabbage and brussel sprouts (as well as his faux soy meat products)

about as much as his grapefruit, so again I had to intervene and get the doctor

and a nutritionist to discuss it with them. Yes, eating those products *will*

reduce the medications ability to perform, and eating them sporadically can

cause messy fluctuations in the bodies needed level of thyroid hormone causing

chronic adjustment. That said, it was agreed by all that they are healthy

vegetables that should be in everyone's diet, my dad loved them and missed them,

so a compromise was made: my dad would eat the stuff he liked *consistently*

while the Rx level was raised and monitored until it stabilized. His meds level

are a little higher than before, but his body does not absorb it all, so no harm

done. By being careful and consistent and having open discussion with his

doctors and pharmacist, he is now able to eat a healthy and varied vegetarian

diet with no ill effect to his meds.

 

Whew! Can't wait to see what they put the old guy on next, heehee. I'm sure

I'll have another battle on my hands...

 

--Celia--

 

 

[Guest guest]

True, grapefruit doesn't raise your blood pressure. But, with my memory, I

find it is better just to forget about them. So I did! <g>

 

 

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Celia Browne

10/30/2006 5:49:28 PM

 

Re: Salt and blood pressure

 

I understand about the black licorice as it can raise blood pressure (only

black, not the red stuff), but why grapefruit? I've never heard of it

raising blood pressure, so that takes me by surprise. I know that some

pills taken with grapefruit or grapefruit juice can have a diminished

performance ability, but grapefruit can be safely eaten later in the day

when the medication is farther down the digestive tract and past the point

of interacting. Example: my dad is on numerous meds for blood pressure and

I recently found out that my mom was forbidding him to eat grapefruit. My

dad LOVES grapefruit. I asked why and she showed me the Rx literature that

said not to consume grapefruits or grapefruit juice while taking this

medication, but a conversation with the pharmacist cleared it up. She

interpreted it to be for the duration of his taking the medication (forever)

as opposed to what it really meant...don't ingest at the same time! He's

now happily eating grapefruit for dinner instead of lunch. Likewise with

his thyroid medication, eating cruciferous vegetables and soy products

reduces the hormone's ability to perform its job properly, so when he was

first diagnosed with low thyroid, my mom cut him off. Well, my dad loves

broccoli, cabbage and brussel sprouts (as well as his faux soy meat

products) about as much as his grapefruit, so again I had to intervene and

get the doctor and a nutritionist to discuss it with them. Yes, eating

those products *will* reduce the medications ability to perform, and eating

them sporadically can cause messy fluctuations in the bodies needed level of

thyroid hormone causing chronic adjustment. That said, it was agreed by all

that they are healthy vegetables that should be in everyone's diet, my dad

loved them and missed them, so a compromise was made: my dad would eat the

stuff he liked *consistently* while the Rx level was raised and monitored

until it stabilized. His meds level are a little higher than before, but

his body does not absorb it all, so no harm done. By being careful and

consistent and having open discussion with his doctors and pharmacist, he is

now able to eat a healthy and varied vegetarian diet with no ill effect to

his meds.

 

Whew! Can't wait to see what they put the old guy on next, heehee. I'm

sure I'll have another battle on my hands...

 

--Celia--

 

 

[Guest guest]

Celia,

 

I'm taking a guess here. I think part of this is due to the high

acid content of grapefruit. If you cook using a metal pan like cast

iron or aluminum ( although I do not recommend using aluminum), and

use high acid fruits like tomato, grapefruit or lemon, etc. , the

food will absorb the metal and have a metallic taste. Maybe it

breaks down the compounds in the medicine and especially the metals

in medicine.

 

I am more sure of this one. Grapefruit and citric fruits including

tomatoes aggravate pitta (fire) dosha. Pitta dosha in Ayurveda is

closely associated with blood pressure and heart problems and skin

rashes, etc. I doubt very much your pharmacist thinks on these

lines but sometimes East meets West.

 

GB

 

GB

 

, " Celia Browne "

<cbrowne wrote:

>

> I understand about the black licorice as it can raise blood

pressure (only black, not the red stuff), but why grapefruit? I've

never heard of it raising blood pressure, so that takes me by

surprise. I know that some pills taken with grapefruit or

grapefruit juice can have a diminished performance ability, but

grapefruit can be safely eaten later in the day when the medication

is farther down the digestive tract and past the point of

interacting. Example: my dad is on numerous meds for blood pressure

and I recently found out that my mom was forbidding him to eat

grapefruit. My dad LOVES grapefruit. I asked why and she showed me

the Rx literature that said not to consume grapefruits or grapefruit

juice while taking this medication, but a conversation with the

pharmacist cleared it up. She interpreted it to be for the duration

of his taking the medication (forever) as opposed to what it really

meant...don't ingest at the same time! He's now happily eating

grapefruit for dinner instead of lunch. Likewise with his thyroid

medication, eating cruciferous vegetables and soy products reduces

the hormone's ability to perform its job properly, so when he was

first diagnosed with low thyroid, my mom cut him off. Well, my dad

loves broccoli, cabbage and brussel sprouts (as well as his faux soy

meat products) about as much as his grapefruit, so again I had to

intervene and get the doctor and a nutritionist to discuss it with

them. Yes, eating those products *will* reduce the medications

ability to perform, and eating them sporadically can cause messy

fluctuations in the bodies needed level of thyroid hormone causing

chronic adjustment. That said, it was agreed by all that they are

healthy vegetables that should be in everyone's diet, my dad loved

them and missed them, so a compromise was made: my dad would eat the

stuff he liked *consistently* while the Rx level was raised and

monitored until it stabilized. His meds level are a little higher

than before, but his body does not absorb it all, so no harm done.

By being careful and consistent and having open discussion with his

doctors and pharmacist, he is now able to eat a healthy and varied

vegetarian diet with no ill effect to his meds.

>

> Whew! Can't wait to see what they put the old guy on next,

heehee. I'm sure I'll have another battle on my hands...

>

> --Celia--

>

>

[Guest guest]

Donna

 

There are a lot of things that contribute to BP. It is different

for everyone. I think you mentioned a few times tha t she like

spicy food. That is a major reason for high BP. I am not saying

spicy food is bad. It is bad for some people. If someone is

thirsty, one needs to " [put out the fire " . Water, bitter, sweet and

astringent tastes decrease pitta. Spicy, salty and sour foods

increase pitta.

\

GB

 

, Donnalilacflower

<thelilacflower wrote:

>

> I have never understood sodium and BP. My sister eats

> no salt and never did, she has very high BP and I

> cover everything in salt and my BP is so low that I

> can't get up quickly at times or I feel faint. We are

> all different.

> Donna

>

> --- jenntinysam <jlbart1974 wrote:

>

> > I have really low blood pressure and I use lots of

> > Salt on

> > everything.. My husband thinks Im nuts.. He went on

> > a low sodium

> > diet befroe he went to driving a truck so that he

> > would pass the

> > physical and not have high blood pressure when they

> > did it.. He

> > wasnt much of a salt eater before that but for me to

> > try to cook

> > with out salt was a biggy for me..

> >

> > Jenn B

>

>

> Love is like oxygen

> You get too much you get too high

> Not enough and you're gonna die

> Love gets you high

> Source - Love is Like Oxygen - Sweet

>

>

>

>

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GB wrote:

>> There are a lot of things that contribute to BP. It is different

for everyone. I think you mentioned a few times tha t she like

spicy food. That is a major reason for high BP. I am not saying

spicy food is bad. It is bad for some people. If someone is

thirsty, one needs to " [put out the fire " . Water, bitter, sweet and

astringent tastes decrease pitta. Spicy, salty and sour foods

increase pitta.

\

GB

 

With much respect, GB, I have to disagree with that statement and I am concerned

that some newbies here or lesser informed people may be getting false

information as a result. Spicy food is NOT a major reason for high blood

pressure--period. There is no medical or scientific basis for this, and any

pharmacist, physician or dietician can attest to it. (We are discussing

strictly food ingredients here, not the herbal supplements that can dangerously

raise your BP.) There are many natural food ingredients such as black licorice

that when consumed in certain quantities can cause high blood pressure, and

there are *some* spicy food ingredients such as ginger and capsaicin which can

*slightly* increase your blood pressure. That said, these ingredients are also

often combined with onions, garlic and other herbs and spices that slightly

*relax* one's blood pressure, possibly counteracting any slight rise. Again,

the spicy ingredients in most foods have little 'overall' effect on BP, so

unless you have out of control BP, there is no need to avoid.

 

Warm Regards,

 

--Celia--