Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Megan, I have never heard of this! Where are you getting your reports? It sounds like some male meat industry personnel are trying to use scare tactics! --Tracy > Hi, my name is Megan. How are yall today. My Question for the day is: > > My husband and I are TTC #2, and allot of reports about baby boys > being born to vegetarian mothers are born with a birth defect of the > penis. Have any of you guys heard of this, it's got my DH all > freaked out. Me and my son are new vegetarians, my DH still eats > meat. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 I've never heard of such a thing.. it was never mentioned to me during my pregnancy. My doctors' only concerns with my pregnancy was that I ate too much and gained too much weight. Congrats on the baby.. How far along are you? Renee vegetarian4evr wrote: Hi, my name is Megan. How are yall today. My Question for the day is: My husband and I are TTC #2, and allot of reports about baby boys being born to vegetarian mothers are born with a birth defect of the penis. Have any of you guys heard of this, it's got my DH all freaked out. Me and my son are new vegetarians, my DH still eats meat. Any info would be great, so I can calm my DH done. Thanks so much, ~Megan For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 vegetarian4evr wrote: > Hi, my name is Megan. How are yall today. My Question for the day is: > > My husband and I are TTC #2, and allot of reports about baby boys > being born to vegetarian mothers are born with a birth defect of the > penis. Have any of you guys heard of this, it's got my DH all > freaked out. Me and my son are new vegetarians, my DH still eats > meat. The condition you're referring to is hypospadias, where the urethra exits through the underside of the penis rather than the tip. As far as I know, there has only been one study on the subject of hypospadias and vegetarian diets, done in Britain, although it has been widely reported on by many different media around the world. You can find more information here: http://vegetarian.about.com/library/weekly/aa022800a.htm The study found that vegetarian mothers had a five-times greater risk of having a son with hypospadias. They also found that mothers who had the flu in their first trimester had a three-times greater risk and mothers who took iron tablets had twice the usual risk. The researchers speculated that the greater exposure to phytoestrogens in soy products was the cause of the increased risk in vegetarians, but could not prove that. It could be due to some other factor instead. The general consensus is that more research needs to be done. If phytoestrogens are the cause, then limiting their consumptions should lessen the risk, and conversely adding meat to a diet would not reduce the risk if phytoestrogen consumption remains high. On the other hand, hypospadias rates in Japan are lower than in the US despite the prevalence of soy products in the Japanese diet. This could indicate that soy is not the culprit, or it could be the result of metabolic differences between the two populations. It's also worth keeping in mind that even with the five-fold increase in risk the study found, most vegetarian baby boys did not have hypospadias. Being a vegetarian in pregnancy does not guarantee or even make it likely that your son would have this condition. Furthermore, I know of no study that has looked at the overall rate of all types of birth defects among vegetarian and non-vegetarian babies, which is really what I would like to see. Looking at just one condition is not a good way to judge the overall healthfulness of a diet. ---- Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia The brilliant Cerebron, attacking the problem analytically, discovered three distinct kinds of dragon: the mythical, the chimerical, and the purely hypothetical. They were all, one might say, nonexistent, but each nonexisted in an entirely different way ... -- Stanislaw Lem, " Cyberiad " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 The supposed link with hypospadias is to consumption of phytoestrogens, rather than a vegetarian diet per se. See the results of this medline search for more information: go to http://pubmed.gov and type the search: vegetarian* AND birth defect Have a look at the abstract for _A maternal vegetarian diet in pregnancy is associated with hypospadias_ Barbara --- vegetarian4evr wrote: > Hi, my name is Megan. How are yall today. My > Question for the day is: > > My husband and I are TTC #2, and allot of reports > about baby boys > being born to vegetarian mothers are born with a > birth defect of the > penis. Have any of you guys heard of this, it's got > my DH all > freaked out. Me and my son are new vegetarians, my > DH still eats > meat. > > Any info would be great, so I can calm my DH done. > > Thanks so much, ~Megan > > > New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Oops, I forgot to add: The only thing to note would be to not rely on soy at every meal--incorporate lots of other beans and nuts--if you want to be cautious. Remember that well-palnned veg*n diets for moms and children are supported by the American Dietetic Association. Get your folate and B12. --- vegetarian4evr wrote: > Hi, my name is Megan. How are yall today. My > Question for the day is: > > My husband and I are TTC #2, and allot of reports > about baby boys > being born to vegetarian mothers are born with a > birth defect of the > penis. Have any of you guys heard of this, it's got > my DH all > freaked out. Me and my son are new vegetarians, my > DH still eats > meat. > > Any info would be great, so I can calm my DH done. > > Thanks so much, ~Megan > > > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Megan, I remember reading about this a while ago, will post more information when I find the article. But for now, I would just like to mention that the world Hindu population doesn't seem to have died out due to widespread penis defects, now have they? Jen vegetarian4evr wrote: >Hi, my name is Megan. How are yall today. My Question for the day is: > >My husband and I are TTC #2, and allot of reports about baby boys >being born to vegetarian mothers are born with a birth defect of the >penis. Have any of you guys heard of this, it's got my DH all >freaked out. Me and my son are new vegetarians, my DH still eats >meat. > >Any info would be great, so I can calm my DH done. > >Thanks so much, ~Megan > > > >For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 > vegetarian4evr > Vegetarian Pregnancy > > Hi, my name is Megan. How are yall today. My Question for the day is: > > My husband and I are TTC #2, and allot of reports about baby boys > being born to vegetarian mothers are born with a birth defect of the > penis. Have any of you guys heard of this, it's got my DH all > freaked out. Me and my son are new vegetarians, my DH still eats > meat. Megan, The birth defect, hypospadias, is RARE - and among that tiny number of boys who are born with it, *slightly* more than half are born to vegetarians (which is why reports can say, " a majority are born to vegetarian mothers... " ). So, another way to look at it is, maybe it's not related to the diet but rather a nutritional deficiency than any mother can have. And of those women with that deficiency, a tiny percent have boys born with the defect. So, eat well, eat often, eat a varied diet full of veggies and beans and nuts, take flax seed oil daily, and take a prenatal multivitamin, be at peace with your decision to stay veggie, and you and baby #2 should be okay. Peace, ~Doh PS. You can tell your husband that *this* vegan mom's son was born without hypospadias, and that the only boy I know of that had it was born to a heavily meat-eating family! -------- " When your children are adults, and in the prime of their lives, who's going to tell them that their clogged arteries, malignancies, and degenerating bodies could so easily have been prevented with the knowledge you possessed when they were young? " ~Dr. Charles Atwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Megan, I think they are using facts but blaming it to be on the no meat consumption... there could be other reasons why this has happened...also i know lots of vegetarian and vegan moms who have perfectly healthy normal boys.... and variety in your diet is always key to good nutrition.... , vegetarian4evr wrote: > Hi, my name is Megan. How are yall today. My Question for the day is: > > My husband and I are TTC #2, and allot of reports about baby boys > being born to vegetarian mothers are born with a birth defect of the > penis. Have any of you guys heard of this, it's got my DH all > freaked out. Me and my son are new vegetarians, my DH still eats > meat. > > Any info would be great, so I can calm my DH done. > > Thanks so much, ~Megan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 I just heard of this condition about 2 weeks ago from someone at work. The child is a friend of hers who is adopted so I don't know the diet of the woman who carried the child. She has since found out about 2 more boys being born with this. Supposedly it is common and easily corrected. I was vegetarian my entire pregnancy and had the flu for the first time in 15 years during my first trimester and my son was not born with it. Lori Message: 3 Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:17:15 -0500 (EST) Patricia Bullington-McGuire <patricia Re: Vegetarian Pregnancy On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 vegetarian4evr wrote: > Hi, my name is Megan. How are yall today. My Question for the day is: > > My husband and I are TTC #2, and allot of reports about baby boys > being born to vegetarian mothers are born with a birth defect of the > penis. Have any of you guys heard of this, it's got my DH all > freaked out. Me and my son are new vegetarians, my DH still eats > meat. The condition you're referring to is hypospadias, where the urethra exits through the underside of the penis rather than the tip. As far as I know, there has only been one study on the subject of hypospadias and vegetarian diets, done in Britain, although it has been widely reported on by many different media around the world. You can find more information here: http://vegetarian.about.com/library/weekly/aa022800a.htm The study found that vegetarian mothers had a five-times greater risk of having a son with hypospadias. They also found that mothers who had the flu in their first trimester had a three-times greater risk and mothers who took iron tablets had twice the usual risk. The researchers speculated that the greater exposure to phytoestrogens in soy products was the cause of the increased risk in vegetarians, but could not prove that. It could be due to some other factor instead. The general consensus is that more research needs to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 Sorry about that.. I don't know all the accronyms. That's a good age difference.. my brother and I are 10 years apart. My husband and I are going for at least 5 years between our kids.. if we make it til June we will have succeeded at that. Renee Megan Garcia <vegetarian4evr wrote: Renee Caroll: I am not pregnant, my DH and I are TTC (Trying To Conceive) our 2nd child. We already have a 10 year old boy. Thanks to everyone who gave me gr-8 responses about the birth defect called Hypospasdias (sp?)! I let my DH read yall's emails and it calmed him down. I am excited about learning all I can about the Veggie World and I know you veteran vegan/vegetarian people can make me feel at ease. Thanks so much, to everyone! Much Love, ~Megan~ For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 I thought I was the only one.... my kids are 13, 11, and 7 mos. LOL --- Renee Carroll <renecarol25 wrote: > Sorry about that.. I don't know all the accronyms. > That's a good age difference.. my brother and I are > 10 years apart. My husband and I are going for at > least 5 years between our kids.. if we make it til > June we will have succeeded at that. > Renee > > Megan Garcia <vegetarian4evr wrote: > Renee Caroll: I am not pregnant, my DH and I are TTC > (Trying To > Conceive) our 2nd child. We already have a 10 year > old boy. > > Thanks to everyone who gave me gr-8 responses about > the birth defect > called Hypospasdias (sp?)! I let my DH read yall's > emails and it > calmed him down. > > I am excited about learning all I can about the > Veggie World and I > know you veteran vegan/vegetarian people can make me > feel at ease. > > Thanks so much, to everyone! > > Much Love, ~Megan~ > > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please > visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for > materials especially useful for families go to > http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Well my mom was 45 when she got pregnant.. though my brother begged for a little brother (or sister) for years.. my mom did not get pregnant on purpose. She actually thought she was too old to get pregnant:) john parker <ringtwins wrote:I thought I was the only one.... my kids are 13, 11, and 7 mos. LOL --- Renee Carroll <renecarol25 wrote: > Sorry about that.. I don't know all the accronyms. > That's a good age difference.. my brother and I are > 10 years apart. My husband and I are going for at > least 5 years between our kids.. if we make it til > June we will have succeeded at that. > Renee > > Megan Garcia <vegetarian4evr wrote: > Renee Caroll: I am not pregnant, my DH and I are TTC > (Trying To > Conceive) our 2nd child. We already have a 10 year > old boy. > > Thanks to everyone who gave me gr-8 responses about > the birth defect > called Hypospasdias (sp?)! I let my DH read yall's > emails and it > calmed him down. > > I am excited about learning all I can about the > Veggie World and I > know you veteran vegan/vegetarian people can make me > feel at ease. > > Thanks so much, to everyone! > > Much Love, ~Megan~ > > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please > visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for > materials especially useful for families go to > http://www.vrg.org/family. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 In a message dated 12/29/06 9:21:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, doris writes: > Does anyone know of a good natural way to combat morning sickness? > She is suffering badly from it. > She might want to try this product. Sea-Band Ltd - natural relief for all types of nausea Safe and natural. I've used these while out on a boat (I tend to get seasick and found that they worked for me) and an M.D. where I work had his wife use them while pregnant to combat morning sickness. They're inexpensive and worth a shot. As for a healthy, vegetarian pregnancy with proper planning there should be no problems. This link Is it safe to eat a vegetarian diet during pregnancy? may help answer your questions and alleviate your fears. Congratulations on the upcoming event! TM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 Protein is no problem as a vegetarian; you can get sufficient from soya and other beans. Who major concern will be calcium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 I just have to say thank you to everyone for the ideas on fighting nausea and getting protein without eating meat during pregnancy. My son and daughter-in-law were thrilled when I told them I had bought the Sea Band acupressure wristbands and that I was looking for the PreggiePops. Unfortunately, she has been craving meat, so she may not keep to her regular diet during the pregnancy. They are happy about the protein bars and protein water I bought and the protein powder that is still on my list. Luckily, neither of them sees my doing this as being interfering. I'm gaining points as a good mother-in-law and future grandmother. So, thank you all! ~ Doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.