Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 (Title modified in subject so it won't set off filters.) I don't think this was discussed here, but it seems appropriate because the books espouse veganism. I'm not skinny (wear a size 16; I joke that like the pandas I love, I'm a chubby but cute vegetarian). I don't even want to be skinny, really, only a couple sizes smaller--my body just isn't built to be skinny unless something really horrible happens. But I looked at the " Skinny Bitch " and " Skinny Bitch in the Kitch " books. WOW. I was horrified, not by the extremely graphic descriptions of how meat is made, but by the hateful tone of the book. It was like the mean girls who made fun of me in high school grew up to write diet books, and they didn't even bother to get a nutrition degree between them first! I also hated how, in the recipe book ( " Kitch " ), all the recipes seemed to be heavy on processed, fakey, soy-based stuff. Don't we all know that it's hell on your hormones to pair soy " meat " with soy " cheeze " on a regular basis? I eat " crap " sometimes, but I try to keep things as close to nature as possible. These women don't. And they call readers names like " fat pig " if they're tempted by chocolate. Frankly, I don't think women need that kind of talk, especially when they're trying to make a lifestyle change. Salon had an article about it this week that was picked up in the New York Times blog. The article was very critical, and the author hates the books for the same reasons I do. It's inspired a most lively discussion. http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2008/02/11/skinny_bitch/ Oink, oink, Jayelle PS--I also think pigs are cute! One reason I don't eat 'em! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 I agree with you, I am naturally a thin person but I know others are built on a large scale and this is perfectly fine. I read about 1/3 of the book and found it very offensive. Women are women and come in all shapes and sizes. I did not like the book at all. Sissy , " Jayelle " <jayelle3 wrote: > > (Title modified in subject so it won't set off filters.) > > I don't think this was discussed here, but it seems appropriate > because the books espouse veganism. I'm not skinny (wear a size 16; > I joke that like the pandas I love, I'm a chubby but cute > vegetarian). I don't even want to be skinny, really, only a couple > sizes smaller--my body just isn't built to be skinny unless something > really horrible happens. But I looked at the " Skinny Bitch " > and " Skinny Bitch in the Kitch " books. WOW. I was horrified, not by > the extremely graphic descriptions of how meat is made, but by the > hateful tone of the book. It was like the mean girls who made fun of > me in high school grew up to write diet books, and they didn't even > bother to get a nutrition degree between them first! > > I also hated how, in the recipe book ( " Kitch " ), all the recipes > seemed to be heavy on processed, fakey, soy-based stuff. Don't we > all know that it's hell on your hormones to pair soy " meat " with > soy " cheeze " on a regular basis? I eat " crap " sometimes, but I try > to keep things as close to nature as possible. These women don't. > And they call readers names like " fat pig " if they're tempted by > chocolate. Frankly, I don't think women need that kind of talk, > especially when they're trying to make a lifestyle change. > > Salon had an article about it this week that was picked up in the New > York Times blog. The article was very critical, and the author hates > the books for the same reasons I do. It's inspired a most lively > discussion. > > http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2008/02/11/skinny_bitch/ > > Oink, oink, > Jayelle > > PS--I also think pigs are cute! One reason I don't eat 'em! :-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Personally, not to offend anyone who may be overweight, but I think the women are GREAT! Yes they do have a crude way of putting things, but the important thing that everyone should be focusing on is the MESSAGE, not necessarily so much the delivery. If you read the WHOLE book through, there is VERY important info in it that should be told to EVERY human being who has ever eaten meat or wondered about just what they were putting in their bodies when they eat. I don't think Kim and Rory take the tone that they do to be critical they way that it may appear; it's just the way they chose to get the message across because the heart of what they are trying to get through to readers is so very important. In fact toward the end of the book they even admit to only naming the book " Skinny Bitch " to grab people's attention and try to sell it. Although I'm sorry that some people find the delivery offensive, I think it's intended to motivate more than to offend or hurt, so if you just take the book and look at it in full perspective, they are just trying to get people to take the info seriously because they care. As for the incredibly HORRIFIC, unthinkable ways in which the animals are tortured and slaughtered in factory farms and slaughterhouses, I honestly don't see how ANYONE with a conscience or heart could NOT be upset and disturbed, to say the least, at hearing about these incredible atrocities!! If you weren't disturbed and heartbroken over what is described there, you couldn't have REALLY read the chapter, so I suggest you go back and do so(it is chapter 6)! Another positive aspect of the book that I look at as my " bible " are the listing of the harmful ingredients you should look for in EVERYTHING you buy, many, of not all, of which are cancer-causing. Also anyone who has the book needs to read Chapter 9 about the FDA and other governmental agencies and the numerous coverups! I think that chapter right there is enough to make you ANGRY and really start thinking twice about who you should and can trust in this world when it comes to your health! I also like the last couple of chapters where they give advice on how to look at yourself positively, and not let others, particularly men, be the determinant as to whether you see yourself as attractive or not. As for the claim that the authors don't have any educational background in nutrition this is NOT true! I'm not sure what kind of a degree Rory has, but I think she taught herself about true nutrition for the most part, and Kim has a Master of Science degree in holistic nutrition. All of this said I still HIGHLY recommend this book, and think it should be in EVERY home of anyone who has ever eaten, as they put it, " crap " , which pretty much includes ALL of us! To anyone who may feel put off by the previous negative comments about the book, I encourage you to give it a chance--yes again the authors do use some foul, strong language throughout--but that just happens to be their style, so I suggest opening it up with an objective mind for LEARNING about what they have to teach and inform you of, rather than focusing so much on the way they put it. This is not the most important thing. What DOES need to be focused on, again, is the MESSAGE they have for all the readers, which could just save your life, really! With all that said, as well as the wealth of sources at the back of the book that you can even go in and research for yourself if you want to, I say to Rory and Kim: GO GET 'EM GIRLS!!!! ))) pepepukpetunia <pepepukpetunia wrote: I agree with you, I am naturally a thin person but I know others are built on a large scale and this is perfectly fine. I read about 1/3 of the book and found it very offensive. Women are women and come in all shapes and sizes. I did not like the book at all. Sissy , " Jayelle " <jayelle3 wrote: > > (Title modified in subject so it won't set off filters.) > > I don't think this was discussed here, but it seems appropriate > because the books espouse veganism. I'm not skinny (wear a size 16; > I joke that like the pandas I love, I'm a chubby but cute > vegetarian). I don't even want to be skinny, really, only a couple > sizes smaller--my body just isn't built to be skinny unless something > really horrible happens. But I looked at the " Skinny Bitch " > and " Skinny Bitch in the Kitch " books. WOW. I was horrified, not by > the extremely graphic descriptions of how meat is made, but by the > hateful tone of the book. It was like the mean girls who made fun of > me in high school grew up to write diet books, and they didn't even > bother to get a nutrition degree between them first! > > I also hated how, in the recipe book ( " Kitch " ), all the recipes > seemed to be heavy on processed, fakey, soy-based stuff. Don't we > all know that it's hell on your hormones to pair soy " meat " with > soy " cheeze " on a regular basis? I eat " crap " sometimes, but I try > to keep things as close to nature as possible. These women don't. > And they call readers names like " fat pig " if they're tempted by > chocolate. Frankly, I don't think women need that kind of talk, > especially when they're trying to make a lifestyle change. > > Salon had an article about it this week that was picked up in the New > York Times blog. The article was very critical, and the author hates > the books for the same reasons I do. It's inspired a most lively > discussion. > > http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2008/02/11/skinny_bitch/ > > Oink, oink, > Jayelle > > PS--I also think pigs are cute! One reason I don't eat 'em! :-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 I have also read the " Skinny Bitch " books and do not find them offensive. I did not become vegetarian because of the way animals are treated, but because of it being a healthy way of eating. After reading this book, there is no way I would go back to eating any type of animals. I actually laughed at some of the ways that they presented things in the books. I have lent this book out to about 4 people that saw me reading it and they were not offended either. The best part of the book is the ways that they got me thinking about what I am actually eating. I am now reading labels when i go shopping and driving people crazy because it takes me longer to shop now. I do not purchase a lot of canned or ready made food, but the things I do I now read them all. It is amazing the stuff they put in our food and then wonder why so many people are sick all of the time. That is just my two cents worth, and I know a lot of people will not agree with me but take the time to read the true message of the book. Barb, Thunder Bay, ON, Canada , Lisamarie Dean <antcheek wrote: > > Personally, not to offend anyone who may be overweight, but I think the women are GREAT! Yes they do have a crude way of putting things, but the important thing that everyone should be focusing on is the MESSAGE, not necessarily so much the delivery. > If you read the WHOLE book through, there is VERY important info in it that should be told to EVERY human being who has ever eaten meat or wondered about just what they were putting in their bodies when they eat. I don't think Kim and Rory take the tone that they do to be critical they way that it may appear; it's just the way they chose to get the message across because the heart of what they are trying to get through to readers is so very important. > In fact toward the end of the book they even admit to only naming the book " Skinny Bitch " to grab people's attention and try to sell it. Although I'm sorry that some people find the delivery offensive, I think it's intended to motivate more than to offend or hurt, so if you just take the book and look at it in full perspective, they are just trying to get people to take the info seriously because they care. > As for the incredibly HORRIFIC, unthinkable ways in which the animals are tortured and slaughtered in factory farms and slaughterhouses, I honestly don't see how ANYONE with a conscience or heart could NOT be upset and disturbed, to say the least, at hearing about these incredible atrocities!! If you weren't disturbed and heartbroken over what is described there, you couldn't have REALLY read the chapter, so I suggest you go back and do so(it is chapter 6)! > Another positive aspect of the book that I look at as my " bible " are the listing of the harmful ingredients you should look for in EVERYTHING you buy, many, of not all, of which are cancer-causing. > Also anyone who has the book needs to read Chapter 9 about the FDA and other governmental agencies and the numerous coverups! I think that chapter right there is enough to make you ANGRY and really start thinking twice about who you should and can trust in this world when it comes to your health! > I also like the last couple of chapters where they give advice on how to look at yourself positively, and not let others, particularly men, be the determinant as to whether you see yourself as attractive or not. > As for the claim that the authors don't have any educational background in nutrition this is NOT true! I'm not sure what kind of a degree Rory has, but I think she taught herself about true nutrition for the most part, and Kim has a Master of Science degree in holistic nutrition. > > All of this said I still HIGHLY recommend this book, and think it should be in EVERY home of anyone who has ever eaten, as they put it, " crap " , which pretty much includes ALL of us! > > To anyone who may feel put off by the previous negative comments about the book, I encourage you to give it a chance--yes again the authors do use some foul, strong language throughout--but that just happens to be their style, so I suggest opening it up with an objective mind for LEARNING about what they have to teach and inform you of, rather than focusing so much on the way they put it. This is not the most important thing. What DOES need to be focused on, again, is the MESSAGE they have for all the readers, which could just save your life, really! > > With all that said, as well as the wealth of sources at the back of the book that you can even go in and research for yourself if you want to, I say to Rory and Kim: > > > GO GET 'EM GIRLS!!!! ))) > > > > > pepepukpetunia <pepepukpetunia wrote: > I agree with you, I am naturally a thin person but I know others are > built on a large scale and this is perfectly fine. I read about 1/3 > of the book and found it very offensive. Women are women and come in > all shapes and sizes. I did not like the book at all. > > Sissy > > , " Jayelle " <jayelle3@> > wrote: > > > > (Title modified in subject so it won't set off filters.) > > > > I don't think this was discussed here, but it seems appropriate > > because the books espouse veganism. I'm not skinny (wear a size > 16; > > I joke that like the pandas I love, I'm a chubby but cute > > vegetarian). I don't even want to be skinny, really, only a couple > > sizes smaller--my body just isn't built to be skinny unless > something > > really horrible happens. But I looked at the " Skinny Bitch " > > and " Skinny Bitch in the Kitch " books. WOW. I was horrified, not > by > > the extremely graphic descriptions of how meat is made, but by the > > hateful tone of the book. It was like the mean girls who made fun > of > > me in high school grew up to write diet books, and they didn't even > > bother to get a nutrition degree between them first! > > > > I also hated how, in the recipe book ( " Kitch " ), all the recipes > > seemed to be heavy on processed, fakey, soy-based stuff. Don't we > > all know that it's hell on your hormones to pair soy " meat " with > > soy " cheeze " on a regular basis? I eat " crap " sometimes, but I try > > to keep things as close to nature as possible. These women don't. > > And they call readers names like " fat pig " if they're tempted by > > chocolate. Frankly, I don't think women need that kind of talk, > > especially when they're trying to make a lifestyle change. > > > > Salon had an article about it this week that was picked up in the > New > > York Times blog. The article was very critical, and the author > hates > > the books for the same reasons I do. It's inspired a most lively > > discussion. > > > > http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2008/02/11/skinny_bitch/ > > > > Oink, oink, > > Jayelle > > > > PS--I also think pigs are cute! One reason I don't eat 'em! :-) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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