Guest guest Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Though being a vegetarian is good, I think, since I am one, I think it might be even better just to be aware. There are many junk foods that are Vegan. Would it not be better to be concerned about how the food was grown, how many resources used to produce it, how much fuel was burned up getting it to us. And for the lactos or ovos, how much room is that cow given exactly, and how long was it sad when they took its calf away, and yes, those eggs are organic and free range, but that only means a couple of square feet of floor space in many cases and a beak burned off anyway. How far did they ship that egg and what noise was created by the truck. And then, should we not be so concerned that an animal has died to provide us with food, but what kind of life it lived and what kind of death it was allowed. Yes, chocolate is Vegetarian, but how many children were exploited to harvest it, and did the tanker that delivered it spill? Is the organic farm where your lettuce is raised exploiting the Mexican folks who come North to work, demanding long hours at back breaking work for little pay. Can you taste the energy of the tears of the man whose family is left behind in El Salvador? I think, rather than worrying about what percent vegan or vegetarian we are, that we could be concerned with respect for other living beings. What percent compassion are you? Well, just a little rant from an old one and not meant in any way to criticize. Just a little thought that perhaps you have already thought. Bridget " Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing. " --William James On Behalf Of echolike Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:32 PM Re: for Vindaloo What is home made gluten? --- On Thu, 8/7/08, KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> <KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > wrote: KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> <KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > for Vindaloo <%40> Thursday, August 7, 2008, 2:54 PM I made some " Chicken " Vindaloo the other weekend. My hubby loved it. I made it 'wimpy' since I don't like things too spicy. Start off with 4 servings of chicken flavor protein product -- I used home made gluten in chicken flavor. Dice the product into about 1/2 " - 3/4 " dice. 1/2 cooking oil 1 Medium Onion, diced 8 T Sundip Vindaloo paste -- I used 4 T and next time I will drop down to 2 T 4 Tomatoes quartered In a medium size pan, fry onions until golden brown Add your mock chicken product and heat thru -- about 3 minutes Stir in the Vindaloo Paste and stir for 3 minutes Add the tomatoes and fry for 2-3 minutes more Add water, cover and cook on medium heat for a few minutes more (maybe 5) Serve over rice -- you can also serve it over fried potatoes, cubed boiled potatoes Next time I am going to add about a cup of cooked, drained garbanzos since I love them. Summer ************ **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos. aol.com/cars- BMW-128-2008/ expert-review? ncid=aolaut00050 000000017 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 very depressing.... --- On Fri, 8/8/08, BRIDGET CUDDIE <bridget wrote: BRIDGET CUDDIE <bridget compassion instead of ism Friday, August 8, 2008, 5:59 PM Though being a vegetarian is good, I think, since I am one, I think it might be even better just to be aware. There are many junk foods that are Vegan. Would it not be better to be concerned about how the food was grown, how many resources used to produce it, how much fuel was burned up getting it to us. And for the lactos or ovos, how much room is that cow given exactly, and how long was it sad when they took its calf away, and yes, those eggs are organic and free range, but that only means a couple of square feet of floor space in many cases and a beak burned off anyway. How far did they ship that egg and what noise was created by the truck. And then, should we not be so concerned that an animal has died to provide us with food, but what kind of life it lived and what kind of death it was allowed. Yes, chocolate is Vegetarian, but how many children were exploited to harvest it, and did the tanker that delivered it spill? Is the organic farm where your lettuce is raised exploiting the Mexican folks who come North to work, demanding long hours at back breaking work for little pay. Can you taste the energy of the tears of the man whose family is left behind in El Salvador? I think, rather than worrying about what percent vegan or vegetarian we are, that we could be concerned with respect for other living beings. What percent compassion are you? Well, just a little rant from an old one and not meant in any way to criticize. Just a little thought that perhaps you have already thought. Bridget " Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing. " --William James [] On Behalf Of echolike Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:32 PM Re: for Vindaloo What is home made gluten? --- On Thu, 8/7/08, KalamalkaBC@ aol.com <KalamalkaBC %40aol.com> <KalamalkaBC@ aol.com <KalamalkaBC %40aol.com> > wrote: KalamalkaBC@ aol.com <KalamalkaBC %40aol.com> <KalamalkaBC@ aol.com <KalamalkaBC %40aol.com> > for Vindaloo <theferalveg etarian%40g roups.com> Thursday, August 7, 2008, 2:54 PM I made some " Chicken " Vindaloo the other weekend. My hubby loved it. I made it 'wimpy' since I don't like things too spicy. Start off with 4 servings of chicken flavor protein product -- I used home made gluten in chicken flavor. Dice the product into about 1/2 " - 3/4 " dice. 1/2 cooking oil 1 Medium Onion, diced 8 T Sundip Vindaloo paste -- I used 4 T and next time I will drop down to 2 T 4 Tomatoes quartered In a medium size pan, fry onions until golden brown Add your mock chicken product and heat thru -- about 3 minutes Stir in the Vindaloo Paste and stir for 3 minutes Add the tomatoes and fry for 2-3 minutes more Add water, cover and cook on medium heat for a few minutes more (maybe 5) Serve over rice -- you can also serve it over fried potatoes, cubed boiled potatoes Next time I am going to add about a cup of cooked, drained garbanzos since I love them. Summer ************ **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos. aol.com/cars- BMW-128-2008/ expert-review? ncid=aolaut00050 000000017 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Thanks for sending your litte rant Bridget. It is good to keep reminding ourselves, Merna in Tucson, AZ **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 I am as compassionate as I possibly can be. I only buy eggs from a co-worker who has a farm. When I visit, which s only about once per year, I see chickens with their beaks and that have the freedom to go wherever they like. I make an almost weekly trip to the farmers market that is in walking distance to my home. I only buy chocolate and coffee that is marked fair trade. I know this doesn't guarantee that no one got exploited along the way. However, I do the very best that I can to be compassionate. Like most, I can not afford to pay prices for food that would put a fair wage in the pockets of all who were in involved in producing it. I acknowledge that I could do more and that I don't have all of the answers. However, I prefer to do what I can, stay positive and not be a downer to others. Perhaps we can share ideas here about how to be compassionate to all living beings. Having said that, I don't see the harm in discussing percentages of those who are vegetarian and vegan. I think the moderator does a great job of putting out weekly questions to stimulate conversation here. Sincerely, CindyLou CindyLou , " BRIDGET CUDDIE " <bridget wrote: > > Though being a vegetarian is good, I think, since I am one, I think it might > be even better just to be aware. There are many junk foods that are Vegan. > Would it not be better to be concerned about how the food was grown, how > many resources used to produce it, how much fuel was burned up getting it to > us. And for the lactos or ovos, how much room is that cow given exactly, and > how long was it sad when they took its calf away, and yes, those eggs are > organic and free range, but that only means a couple of square feet of floor > space in many cases and a beak burned off anyway. How far did they ship > that egg and what noise was created by the truck. And then, should we not > be so concerned that an animal has died to provide us with food, but what > kind of life it lived and what kind of death it was allowed. Yes, chocolate > is Vegetarian, but how many children were exploited to harvest it, and did > the tanker that delivered it spill? Is the organic farm where your lettuce > is raised exploiting the Mexican folks who come North to work, demanding > long hours at back breaking work for little pay. Can you taste the energy > of the tears of the man whose family is left behind in El Salvador? I think, > rather than worrying about what percent vegan or vegetarian we are, that we > could be concerned with respect for other living beings. What percent > compassion are you? Well, just a little rant from an old one and not meant > in any way to criticize. Just a little thought that perhaps you have already > thought. > > > > Bridget > > > > " Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different > speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing. " > --William James > > > > > On Behalf Of echolike > Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:32 PM > > Re: for Vindaloo > > > > What is home made gluten? > > --- On Thu, 8/7/08, KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > <KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > wrote: > > KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > <KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > > for Vindaloo > > <%40> > Thursday, August 7, 2008, 2:54 PM > > I made some " Chicken " Vindaloo the other weekend. My hubby loved it. I > made it 'wimpy' since I don't like things too spicy. > > Start off with 4 servings of chicken flavor protein product -- I used home > made gluten in chicken flavor. Dice the product into about 1/2 " - 3/4 " dice. > 1/2 cooking oil > 1 Medium Onion, diced > 8 T Sundip Vindaloo paste -- I used 4 T and next time I will drop down to 2 > T > 4 Tomatoes quartered > > In a medium size pan, fry onions until golden brown > Add your mock chicken product and heat thru -- about 3 minutes > Stir in the Vindaloo Paste and stir for 3 minutes > Add the tomatoes and fry for 2-3 minutes more > Add water, cover and cook on medium heat for a few minutes more (maybe 5) > > Serve over rice -- you can also serve it over fried potatoes, cubed boiled > potatoes > > Next time I am going to add about a cup of cooked, drained garbanzos since I > > love them. > > Summer > > ************ **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? > > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos. aol.com/cars- BMW-128-2008/ expert-review? ncid=aolaut00050 > 000000017 ) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 I'm sorry. I didn't mean it to be. I just am trying myself to stop and honor the sacrifices that are made to support my being. It isn't depressing, or even sad, really, but just what is. One wonders how to repay, doesn't one. Namaste Bridget " Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing. " --William James On Behalf Of echolike Friday, August 08, 2008 6:42 PM Re: compassion instead of ism very depressing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Oops. I guess I stepped on some toes. It is so difficult to communicate some things through email. I myself am not so good at all of those things. It was never intended as a criticism. Only as a little stream of consciousness. I apologize if I offended anyone. Bridget " Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing. " --William James On Behalf Of CindyLou G. Saturday, August 09, 2008 8:56 AM Re: compassion instead of ism I prefer to do what I can, stay positive and not be a downer to others. Perhaps we can share ideas here about how to be compassionate to all living beings. Having said that, I don't see the harm in discussing percentages of those who are vegetarian and vegan. I think the moderator does a great job of putting out weekly questions to stimulate conversation here. Sincerely, CindyLou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 I'm back. I keep thinking about this. So, yes, I agree, there is no way to stay alive without taking life. It is just about honoring that life. And I won't say another word about it. Bridget " Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing. " --William James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Wow, Bridget, your thoughtful post gives excellent advice. We need to live as ethically as we can now matter what our food choices are. Trish BRIDGET CUDDIE wrote: > > > Though being a vegetarian is good, I think, since I am one, I think it might > be even better just to be aware. There are many junk foods that are Vegan. > Would it not be better to be concerned about how the food was grown, how > many resources used to produce it, how much fuel was burned up getting it to > us. And for the lactos or ovos, how much room is that cow given exactly, and > how long was it sad when they took its calf away, and yes, those eggs are > organic and free range, but that only means a couple of square feet of floor > space in many cases and a beak burned off anyway. How far did they ship > that egg and what noise was created by the truck. And then, should we not > be so concerned that an animal has died to provide us with food, but what > kind of life it lived and what kind of death it was allowed. Yes, chocolate > is Vegetarian, but how many children were exploited to harvest it, and did > the tanker that delivered it spill? Is the organic farm where your lettuce > is raised exploiting the Mexican folks who come North to work, demanding > long hours at back breaking work for little pay. Can you taste the energy > of the tears of the man whose family is left behind in El Salvador? I think, > rather than worrying about what percent vegan or vegetarian we are, that we > could be concerned with respect for other living beings. What percent > compassion are you? Well, just a little rant from an old one and not meant > in any way to criticize. Just a little thought that perhaps you have already > thought. > > Bridget > > " Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different > speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing. " > --William James > > > <%40> > [ > <%40>] On Behalf Of echolike > Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:32 PM > > <%40> > Re: for Vindaloo > > What is home made gluten? > > --- On Thu, 8/7/08, KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > <KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > wrote: > > KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > <KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > > for Vindaloo > > <%40> > <%40> > Thursday, August 7, 2008, 2:54 PM > > I made some " Chicken " Vindaloo the other weekend. My hubby loved it. I > made it 'wimpy' since I don't like things too spicy. > > Start off with 4 servings of chicken flavor protein product -- I used home > made gluten in chicken flavor. Dice the product into about 1/2 " - 3/4 " dice. > 1/2 cooking oil > 1 Medium Onion, diced > 8 T Sundip Vindaloo paste -- I used 4 T and next time I will drop down to 2 > T > 4 Tomatoes quartered > > In a medium size pan, fry onions until golden brown > Add your mock chicken product and heat thru -- about 3 minutes > Stir in the Vindaloo Paste and stir for 3 minutes > Add the tomatoes and fry for 2-3 minutes more > Add water, cover and cook on medium heat for a few minutes more (maybe 5) > > Serve over rice -- you can also serve it over fried potatoes, cubed boiled > potatoes > > Next time I am going to add about a cup of cooked, drained garbanzos since I > > love them. > > Summer > > ************ **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? > > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos. aol.com/cars- BMW-128-2008/ expert-review? ncid=aolaut00050 > 000000017 ) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Very nicely said, Cindy. And that is really at the heart of what veganism, which I am a recently-turned vegan is about--it's not about being perfect but simply about eliminating as much suffering as possible, or at least reducing it to the greatest extent that we can. " CindyLou G. " <cindylou22312 wrote: I am as compassionate as I possibly can be. I only buy eggs from a co-worker who has a farm. When I visit, which s only about once per year, I see chickens with their beaks and that have the freedom to go wherever they like. I make an almost weekly trip to the farmers market that is in walking distance to my home. I only buy chocolate and coffee that is marked fair trade. I know this doesn't guarantee that no one got exploited along the way. However, I do the very best that I can to be compassionate. Like most, I can not afford to pay prices for food that would put a fair wage in the pockets of all who were in involved in producing it. I acknowledge that I could do more and that I don't have all of the answers. However, I prefer to do what I can, stay positive and not be a downer to others. Perhaps we can share ideas here about how to be compassionate to all living beings. Having said that, I don't see the harm in discussing percentages of those who are vegetarian and vegan. I think the moderator does a great job of putting out weekly questions to stimulate conversation here. Sincerely, CindyLou CindyLou , " BRIDGET CUDDIE " <bridget wrote: > > Though being a vegetarian is good, I think, since I am one, I think it might > be even better just to be aware. There are many junk foods that are Vegan. > Would it not be better to be concerned about how the food was grown, how > many resources used to produce it, how much fuel was burned up getting it to > us. And for the lactos or ovos, how much room is that cow given exactly, and > how long was it sad when they took its calf away, and yes, those eggs are > organic and free range, but that only means a couple of square feet of floor > space in many cases and a beak burned off anyway. How far did they ship > that egg and what noise was created by the truck. And then, should we not > be so concerned that an animal has died to provide us with food, but what > kind of life it lived and what kind of death it was allowed. Yes, chocolate > is Vegetarian, but how many children were exploited to harvest it, and did > the tanker that delivered it spill? Is the organic farm where your lettuce > is raised exploiting the Mexican folks who come North to work, demanding > long hours at back breaking work for little pay. Can you taste the energy > of the tears of the man whose family is left behind in El Salvador? I think, > rather than worrying about what percent vegan or vegetarian we are, that we > could be concerned with respect for other living beings. What percent > compassion are you? Well, just a little rant from an old one and not meant > in any way to criticize. Just a little thought that perhaps you have already > thought. > > > > Bridget > > > > " Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different > speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing. " > --William James > > > > > On Behalf Of echolike > Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:32 PM > > Re: for Vindaloo > > > > What is home made gluten? > > --- On Thu, 8/7/08, KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > <KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > wrote: > > KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > <KalamalkaBC <KalamalkaBC%40aol.com> > > for Vindaloo > > <%40> > Thursday, August 7, 2008, 2:54 PM > > I made some " Chicken " Vindaloo the other weekend. My hubby loved it. I > made it 'wimpy' since I don't like things too spicy. > > Start off with 4 servings of chicken flavor protein product -- I used home > made gluten in chicken flavor. Dice the product into about 1/2 " - 3/4 " dice. > 1/2 cooking oil > 1 Medium Onion, diced > 8 T Sundip Vindaloo paste -- I used 4 T and next time I will drop down to 2 > T > 4 Tomatoes quartered > > In a medium size pan, fry onions until golden brown > Add your mock chicken product and heat thru -- about 3 minutes > Stir in the Vindaloo Paste and stir for 3 minutes > Add the tomatoes and fry for 2-3 minutes more > Add water, cover and cook on medium heat for a few minutes more (maybe 5) > > Serve over rice -- you can also serve it over fried potatoes, cubed boiled > potatoes > > Next time I am going to add about a cup of cooked, drained garbanzos since I > > love them. > > Summer > > ************ **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? > > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > (http://autos. aol.com/cars- BMW-128-2008/ expert-review? ncid=aolaut00050 > 000000017 ) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 I agree -- it's good to think about ways we can live friendlier. Nobody's perfect! Interestingly, I just bought eggs for the first time in years. I got them from a vegetarian friend who keeps chickens. I'd seen the chickens and knew how well they were cared for. I made deviled eggs with them and took them to a potluck. It was fun! I discovered, though, that I really don't like eggs anymore. So I won't buy anymore, probably. But I felt fine about buying those. Cheers, Trish Lisamarie Dean wrote: > > > Very nicely said, Cindy. And that is really at the heart of what > veganism, which I am a recently-turned vegan is about--it's not about > being perfect but simply about eliminating as much suffering as > possible, or at least reducing it to the greatest extent that we can. > > " CindyLou G. " <cindylou22312 > <cindylou22312%40>> wrote: I am as compassionate as I > possibly can be. I only buy eggs from a > co-worker who has a farm. When I visit, which s only about once per > year, I see chickens with their beaks and that have the freedom to go > wherever they like. I make an almost weekly trip to the farmers > market that is in walking distance to my home. I only buy chocolate > and coffee that is marked fair trade. I know this doesn't guarantee > that no one got exploited along the way. However, I do the very best > that I can to be compassionate. Like most, I can not afford to pay > prices for food that would put a fair wage in the pockets of all who > were in involved in producing it. I acknowledge that I could do more > and that I don't have all of the answers. However, I prefer to do > what I can, stay positive and not be a downer to others. Perhaps we > can share ideas here about how to be compassionate to all living > beings. Having said that, I don't see the harm in discussing > percentages of those who are vegetarian and vegan. I think the > moderator does a great job of putting out weekly questions to > stimulate conversation here. > > Sincerely, > CindyLou > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 I read that Whole Foods buys eggs from those with free roaming chickens. Can anyone confirm this.? --- On Sat, 8/9/08, bantrymoon <bantrymoon wrote: bantrymoon <bantrymoon Re: compassion instead of ism Saturday, August 9, 2008, 6:37 PM I agree -- it's good to think about ways we can live friendlier. Nobody's perfect! Interestingly, I just bought eggs for the first time in years. I got them from a vegetarian friend who keeps chickens. I'd seen the chickens and knew how well they were cared for. I made deviled eggs with them and took them to a potluck. It was fun! I discovered, though, that I really don't like eggs anymore. So I won't buy anymore, probably. But I felt fine about buying those. Cheers, Trish Lisamarie Dean wrote: > > > Very nicely said, Cindy. And that is really at the heart of what > veganism, which I am a recently-turned vegan is about--it's not about > being perfect but simply about eliminating as much suffering as > possible, or at least reducing it to the greatest extent that we can. > > " CindyLou G. " <cindylou22312@ > <cindylou223 12%40. com>> wrote: I am as compassionate as I > possibly can be. I only buy eggs from a > co-worker who has a farm. When I visit, which s only about once per > year, I see chickens with their beaks and that have the freedom to go > wherever they like. I make an almost weekly trip to the farmers > market that is in walking distance to my home. I only buy chocolate > and coffee that is marked fair trade. I know this doesn't guarantee > that no one got exploited along the way. However, I do the very best > that I can to be compassionate. Like most, I can not afford to pay > prices for food that would put a fair wage in the pockets of all who > were in involved in producing it. I acknowledge that I could do more > and that I don't have all of the answers. However, I prefer to do > what I can, stay positive and not be a downer to others. Perhaps we > can share ideas here about how to be compassionate to all living > beings. Having said that, I don't see the harm in discussing > percentages of those who are vegetarian and vegan. I think the > moderator does a great job of putting out weekly questions to > stimulate conversation here. > > Sincerely, > CindyLou > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 If you really must have eggs, you can sometimes rescue hens from your local shelter. Chickens are often confiscated during raids on cockfighting operations or other animal welfare cases. While the roosters are frequently euthanized, the hens are usually in good shape and are often offered to rescue. My daughter has several hens that she has rescued. They all have their beaks and live a happy life. They eat scraps from her garden and kitchen, along with worms and bugs from the garden. Theirs are the only eggs I eat, although they are in their summer doldrums here in Arizona. Salette in Oro Valley, Arizona (Hi, Merna!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 I am in a town that doesn't allow you to have chickens on a small type residential lot. We are not supposed to have more than 3 dogs/cats. My friend nearby is in a court situation now because she had banty chickens...and the roosters annoyed the neighbors. So, I can't have a rescue chickens. --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Salette Latas <salette wrote: Salette Latas <salette Re: compassion instead of ism Saturday, August 9, 2008, 7:29 PM If you really must have eggs, you can sometimes rescue hens from your local shelter. Chickens are often confiscated during raids on cockfighting operations or other animal welfare cases. While the roosters are frequently euthanized, the hens are usually in good shape and are often offered to rescue. My daughter has several hens that she has rescued. They all have their beaks and live a happy life. They eat scraps from her garden and kitchen, along with worms and bugs from the garden. Theirs are the only eggs I eat, although they are in their summer doldrums here in Arizona. Salette in Oro Valley, Arizona (Hi, Merna!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Please forgive me but I don't see where you're coming from on that; you do not have to take a life in order to live. What good does it do to honor a life only to take it against that being's will, when it isn't necessary? BRIDGET CUDDIE <bridget wrote: I'm back. I keep thinking about this. So, yes, I agree, there is no way to stay alive without taking life. It is just about honoring that life. And I won't say another word about it. Bridget " Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing. " --William James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Well, there must be death for there to be life. It just is. The plants are lives, too. And the microbes and bacterium that grow on them. Oh, perhaps, you wouldn't HAVE to take a sentient life, but you know, and just by our being here in so many numbers we are taking up space that could be used by another lifeform. That's all I meant. You couldn't possibly be so pure as to avoid it, really. What about all the little mice families and pheasants and such that get chopped up when they harvest the grain? Its just unrealistic to think that you could go through life totally without harming another creature. Bridget " Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing. " --William James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Bridget - Please put those thoughts behind you...They are negative. Positive is much healthier. Understand the things you cannot change...and go forward. --- On Sun, 8/10/08, BRIDGET CUDDIE <bridget wrote: BRIDGET CUDDIE <bridget RE: compassion instead of ism Sunday, August 10, 2008, 3:53 PM Well, there must be death for there to be life. It just is. The plants are lives, too. And the microbes and bacterium that grow on them. Oh, perhaps, you wouldn't HAVE to take a sentient life, but you know, and just by our being here in so many numbers we are taking up space that could be used by another lifeform. That's all I meant. You couldn't possibly be so pure as to avoid it, really. What about all the little mice families and pheasants and such that get chopped up when they harvest the grain? Its just unrealistic to think that you could go through life totally without harming another creature. Bridget " Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing. " --William James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 of course its not possitive...but its reality...so be aware of the lives that you affect is all she is saying...say thank you for the life that you are consuming, as simple a form as you may think it is...(we were all that simple at one time)...just " thinking possitive " is the same anwser i hear all the time from meat eaters...kinda like its really not that bad, theyre not treated like that, they dont feel pain, etc... , echolike <echolike wrote: > > Bridget - Please put those thoughts behind you...They are negative. Positive is much healthier. Understand the things you cannot change...and go forward. > > --- On Sun, 8/10/08, BRIDGET CUDDIE <bridget wrote: > > BRIDGET CUDDIE <bridget > RE: compassion instead of ism > > Sunday, August 10, 2008, 3:53 PM Well, there must be death for there to be life. It just is. The plants are > lives, too. And the microbes and bacterium that grow on them. Oh, perhaps, > you wouldn't HAVE to take a sentient life, but you know, and just by our > being here in so many numbers we are taking up space that could be used by > another lifeform. That's all I meant. You couldn't possibly be so pure as to > avoid it, really. What about all the little mice families and pheasants and > such that get chopped up when they harvest the grain? Its just unrealistic > to think that you could go through life totally without harming another > creature. > > Bridget > > " Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different > speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing. " > --William James > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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