Many phases of raw, how about you?

March 26, 2007

Hi!

I'm new to the group, but I have a history of playing around with my

food, including some all raw times, cleansing, etc. I know there are

a lot of variances in the raw/vegan/vegetarian worlds, but I thought

I'd say " hi " and see if anyone can relate and share some...

1. When I first went raw, it was cold, and I loved putting cayenne

in things. Some consider it a stimulant, but it got me through, kept

me feeling warm, and I honestly think I would've given up the raw if

I didn't have that at that time.

2. In the winter months, again craving " cooked, " " prepared " food, I

tried to heat up my " soup " water under 118 or even 110, and without

fail, every time I tried to do that, I forgot I had the water on the

stove and boiled the pan to either boiling or dry! Scary! So much

for that!

3. I did several weeks on the " master cleanse " lemon water-cayenne-

maple syrup (syrup organic but not raw), and I felt better than I

have in I don't know how long. Around the 3rd week without solid

food, it really began to sink in that most of my eating had

absolutely nothing to do with real hunger. My mood was great and I

was just plugging along. And I didn't need as much syrup to keep my

brain and energy up.

4. I went through a phase where I really got into not using utensils

to eat with, just picking up leaves with my fingers or eating things

with their skins.

5. I also felt great once when I was doing mostly wheatgrass. I

cheated and bought flash frozen, enzymatically alive juice. It was

so mild and tasty and refreshing. I'm having some tomorrow! NO,

actually, right now! I'll be right back!

6. When I was eating cooked food, I never realized how much I was

drinking! Sodas, coffees, water, juices! Then one day after eating

raw for a while, it occurred to me the glasses in my cupboard were

really irritating me because they were all too large! I lived with

that for a while, and then I went to some store like Goodwill or

Salvation Army, and I picked up these smaller glasses really cheap.

It was such fun! Now, when I drink something, I have it in a

nice " raw size " glass, and I get most of my moisture from my foods.

7. Once, I took some raw blender concoction to work, and it was

pretty mild, and I offered some to a coworker, and he had a sip, and

it tasted so strong to him he almost spit it out on my desk! I

didn't realize how far my taste buds had come, and I really DID think

it was mild enough for him! Raw rocks! Rrrrrrrrrr.

8. One of my cats loves mango and melon (not at the same meal, for

those who know that routine, heh heh.)

9. I like popping baby radishes in my mouth at work. I find those

babies really energizing. They kind of give me a little nudge, and

they don't make a mess. Their red color is like nature's candy too.

10. Yes, I've given up eating exclusively certified organic food.

In my fridge right now, I have 2 organic red peppers for over $5. And

I'm irritated because the organic avocado I bought, the only one that

was almost ripe in the store, and the one I was looking forward to

eating when I got home from work today, well, it had a big knife

wound in it, like from a box cutter, so of course, I couldn't eat

that, and it makes me angry I didn't see that before I bought it. I

think I paid something like $1.50 for that. (Maybe the key was that

if that was the only one almost ripe in that bin, then.....duh.) And

last summer, I'd go to the store, and the selection wasn't very good,

and within a day or two the food would go from not ripe to rotten.

I've even been throwing out lemons, which I really don't remember

getting moldy before the last year or so, or what? I think you have

to be a millionaire here to find an organic cucumber, and the

farmer's markets are charging supermarket prices. Enough of that. I'm

happy to have food, and a selection at that. All part of the

emotional-mental cleansing, 'eh? I'm obviously purging anger

associated with " waste " and " unfrugality. " Onward and upward.

What about everyone here? It's nice to meet you! Got an interesting

raw story or factoid? Best Wishes, Mary

March 26, 2007

you are hilarious! That was a good read on a cranky

monday morning. Thank you.

--- rawfood <getmaryb

wrote:

> Hi!

>

> I'm new to the group, but I have a history of

playing around with my

> food, including some all raw times, cleansing, etc.

I know there are

> a lot of variances in the raw/vegan/vegetarian

worlds, but I thought

> I'd say " hi " and see if anyone can relate and share

some...

>

> 1. When I first went raw, it was cold, and I loved

putting cayenne

> in things. Some consider it a stimulant, but it got

me through, kept

> me feeling warm, and I honestly think I would've

given up the raw if

> I didn't have that at that time.

>

> 2. In the winter months, again craving " cooked, "

" prepared " food, I

> tried to heat up my " soup " water under 118 or even

110, and without

> fail, every time I tried to do that, I forgot I had

the water on the

> stove and boiled the pan to either boiling or dry!

Scary! So much

> for that!

>

> 3. I did several weeks on the " master cleanse "

lemon water-cayenne-

> maple syrup (syrup organic but not raw), and I felt

better than I

> have in I don't know how long. Around the 3rd week

without solid

> food, it really began to sink in that most of my

eating had

> absolutely nothing to do with real hunger. My mood

was great and I

> was just plugging along. And I didn't need as much

syrup to keep my

> brain and energy up.

>

> 4. I went through a phase where I really got into

not using utensils

> to eat with, just picking up leaves with my fingers

or eating things

> with their skins.

>

> 5. I also felt great once when I was doing mostly

wheatgrass. I

> cheated and bought flash frozen, enzymatically alive

juice. It was

> so mild and tasty and refreshing. I'm having some

tomorrow! NO,

> actually, right now! I'll be right back!

>

> 6. When I was eating cooked food, I never realized

how much I was

> drinking! Sodas, coffees, water, juices! Then one

day after eating

> raw for a while, it occurred to me the glasses in my

cupboard were

> really irritating me because they were all too

large! I lived with

> that for a while, and then I went to some store like

Goodwill or

> Salvation Army, and I picked up these smaller

glasses really cheap.

> It was such fun! Now, when I drink something, I

have it in a

> nice " raw size " glass, and I get most of my moisture

from my foods.

>

> 7. Once, I took some raw blender concoction to

work, and it was

> pretty mild, and I offered some to a coworker, and

he had a sip, and

> it tasted so strong to him he almost spit it out on

my desk! I

> didn't realize how far my taste buds had come, and I

really DID think

> it was mild enough for him! Raw rocks! Rrrrrrrrrr.

>

> 8. One of my cats loves mango and melon (not at the

same meal, for

> those who know that routine, heh heh.)

>

> 9. I like popping baby radishes in my mouth at

work. I find those

> babies really energizing. They kind of give me a

little nudge, and

> they don't make a mess. Their red color is like

nature's candy too.

>

> 10. Yes, I've given up eating exclusively certified

organic food.

> In my fridge right now, I have 2 organic red peppers

for over $5. And

> I'm irritated because the organic avocado I bought,

the only one that

> was almost ripe in the store, and the one I was

looking forward to

> eating when I got home from work today, well, it had

a big knife

> wound in it, like from a box cutter, so of course, I

couldn't eat

> that, and it makes me angry I didn't see that before

I bought it. I

> think I paid something like $1.50 for that. (Maybe

the key was that

> if that was the only one almost ripe in that bin,

then.....duh.) And

> last summer, I'd go to the store, and the selection

wasn't very good,

> and within a day or two the food would go from not

ripe to rotten.

> I've even been throwing out lemons, which I really

don't remember

> getting moldy before the last year or so, or what? I

think you have

> to be a millionaire here to find an organic

cucumber, and the

> farmer's markets are charging supermarket prices.

Enough of that. I'm

> happy to have food, and a selection at that. All

part of the

> emotional-men

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March 26, 2007

Okay, that was so cute! LOL, you're so funny. I love reading about

people transitioning into raw vegan foods. It makes me want to

eat...in a good way. LOL

rawfood , Shay Butter <sheabuddah wrote:

>

> you are hilarious! That was a good read on a cranky

> monday morning. Thank you.

> --- rawfood <getmaryb

> wrote:

> > Hi!

> >

> > I'm new to the group, but I have a history of

> playing around with my

> > food, including some all raw times, cleansing, etc.

> I know there are

> > a lot of variances in the raw/vegan/vegetarian

> worlds, but I thought

> > I'd say " hi " and see if anyone can relate and share

> some...

> >

> > 1. When I first went raw, it was cold, and I loved

> putting cayenne

> > in things. Some consider it a stimulant, but it got

> me through, kept

> > me feeling warm, and I honestly think I would've

> given up the raw if

> > I didn't have that at that time.

> >

> > 2. In the winter months, again craving " cooked, "

> " prepared " food, I

> > tried to heat up my " soup " water under 118 or even

> 110, and without

> > fail, every time I tried to do that, I forgot I had

> the water on the

> > stove and boiled the pan to either boiling or dry!

> Scary! So much

> > for that!

> >

> > 3. I did several weeks on the " master cleanse "

> lemon water-cayenne-

> > maple syrup (syrup organic but not raw), and I felt

> better than I

> > have in I don't know how long. Around the 3rd week

> without solid

> > food, it really began to sink in that most of my

> eating had

> > absolutely nothing to do with real hunger. My mood

> was great and I

> > was just plugging along. And I didn't need as much

> syrup to keep my

> > brain and energy up.

> >

> > 4. I went through a phase where I really got into

> not using utensils

> > to eat with, just picking up leaves with my fingers

> or eating things

> > with their skins.

> >

> > 5. I also felt great once when I was doing mostly

> wheatgrass. I

> > cheated and bought flash frozen, enzymatically alive

> juice. It was

> > so mild and tasty and refreshing. I'm having some

> tomorrow! NO,

> > actually, right now! I'll be right back!

> >

> > 6. When I was eating cooked food, I never realized

> how much I was

> > drinking! Sodas, coffees, water, juices! Then one

> day after eating

> > raw for a while, it occurred to me the glasses in my

> cupboard were

> > really irritating me because they were all too

> large! I lived with

> > that for a while, and then I went to some store like

> Goodwill or

> > Salvation Army, and I picked up these smaller

> glasses really cheap.

> > It was such fun! Now, when I drink something, I

> have it in a

> > nice " raw size " glass, and I get most of my moisture

> from my foods.

> >

> > 7. Once, I took some raw blender concoction to

> work, and it was

> > pretty mild, and I offered some to a coworker, and

> he had a sip, and

> > it tasted so strong to him he almost spit it out on

> my desk! I

> > didn't realize how far my taste buds had come, and I

> really DID think

> > it was mild enough for him! Raw rocks! Rrrrrrrrrr.

> >

> > 8. One of my cats loves mango and melon (not at the

> same meal, for

> > those who know that routine, heh heh.)

> >

> > 9. I like popping baby radishes in my mouth at

> work. I find those

> > babies really energizing. They kind of give me a

> little nudge, and

> > they don't make a mess. Their red color is like

> nature's candy too.

> >

> > 10. Yes, I've given up eating exclusively certified

> organic food.

> > In my fridge right now, I have 2 organic red peppers

> for over $5. And

> > I'm irritated because the organic avocado I bought,

> the only one that

> > was almost ripe in the store, and the one I was

> looking forward to

> > eating when I got home from work today, well, it had

> a big knife

> > wound in it, like from a box cutter, so of course, I

> couldn't eat

> > that, and it makes me angry I didn't see that before

> I bought it. I

> > think I paid something like $1.50 for that. (Maybe

> the key was that

> > if that was the only one almost ripe in that bin,

> then.....duh.) And

> > last summer, I'd go to the store, and the selection

> wasn't very good,

> > and within a day or two the food would go from not

> ripe to rotten.

> > I've even been throwing out lemons, which I really

> don't remember

> > getting moldy before the last year or so, or what? I

> think you have

> > to be a millionaire here to find an organic

> cucumber, and the

> > farmer's markets are charging supermarket prices.

> Enough of that. I'm

> > happy to have food, and a selection at that. All

> part of the

> > emotional-men

> === Message Truncated ===

>

> Shay Butter!

>

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March 27, 2007

rawfood , getmaryb wrote:

> When I first went raw, it was cold, and I loved putting cayenne

> in things. Some consider it a stimulant, but it got me through,

> kept me feeling warm, and I honestly think I would've given up the

> raw if I didn't have that at that time.

Yeah, well, Chinese medicine has something about that. If cayenne

works for you, do it. (are you looking for someone to tell you you are

doing wrong? It won't come from me.)

> In the winter months, again craving " cooked, " " prepared " food,

> I tried to heat up my " soup " water under 118 or even 110, and

> without fail, every time I tried to do that, I forgot I had the

> water on the stove and boiled the pan to either boiling or dry!

was it a psychic nudge? or were you just forgetful?

I just put stuff in the dehydrator for an hour if I really really want

it warm.

<snip>

> I went through a phase where I really got into not using utensils

> to eat with, just picking up leaves with my fingers or eating things

> with their skins.

Welcome to raw food.

<snip>

> I'm irritated because the organic avocado I bought, the only one

> that was almost ripe in the store, and the one I was looking

> forward to eating when I got home from work today, well, it had a

> big knife wound in it,

so, who stabbed it? I " ve had avocados go bad, but the only food

that shows up with knife wounds is stuff that my room-mate does not

want to see for dinner (I've learned) Avocados tend to die by getting

all old and shrivelly, just like humans. Easier way-- use them within

two days.

Margaret

March 27, 2007

getmaryb <getmaryb wrote: Hi!

I'm new to the group, but I have a history of playing around with my

food, including some all raw times, cleansing, etc. I know there are

a lot of variances in the raw/vegan/vegetarian worlds, but I thought

I'd say " hi " and see if anyone can relate and share some...

....

What about everyone here? It's nice to meet you! Got an interesting

raw story or factoid? Best Wishes, Mary

--\

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Hello,

I am introducing myself for the first time. My name is Bobby and I discovered

raw foods in approx august '06. The texts that inpsired me are the Vedas (I

tried going vegetarian in the summer of '05, but that did not last long. I was

trying to improve my karma, to no avail to my cravings at that time). Then I got

reinspired when I came across Rich Anderson's book coming from a friend who

tried a " detox " on only raw fruits and vegetables that were organic, and wow did

she glow. Her skin got silky smooth and her hair had this sheen... But I didn't

get the message about raw foods until I came across and read the Essene Gospel

of Peace. This was a very different " Jesus " than I grew up with and seemed way

cooler to me. So, in Sept '06, around the 6th I took the plunge into raw foods.

I had been trying to go vegan before this, but the emotional tug of war with my

ex-girlfriend at the time kept my SAD food cravings fed until I convinced her

that the reason why I wanted to stop

eating meat was because of spiritual reasons. She insisted I wouldn't get

enough protein etc etc, but I was resolved and didn't care. I figured that

nutritional " science " was highly biased and feeding the FDA/Med industry cartel

and my body would be able to make anything it needed given enough energy of the

proper sorts which would come only from living plant entities.

So for the first 3 weeks I went cold turkey. Only Organic salads and fruit. I

could not eat much and never felt full or satisfied in my belly or gut no matter

how much I tried to cram food into me. It seemed like a pear and a big bowl of

salad is all that I could fit, so that's how it would sit. In those three weeks

I lost 30 pounds, experienced resurgence of emotion and memory supressed. It

also felt like a crazy internal emotional tug of war with various aspects and

desires. I noticed I pooped so incredbly much but the quantity of food was not

nearly that much mass and volume. It seemed that indeed my body had started some

sort of cleansing process. The poop was foul, varied in color to sluggish dark

browns and greens. At times they would have like a sausage like texture or skin

all packed in and the consistency was irregular, like multicolored play dough.

Over time it got more and more normal looking and started to smell... not like

poop at all but more like ... humous

from the earth?

After 3 weeks I ate pizza that I made with organic ingredients. I felt terribly

heavy and my stomach told me, " ouch, why did you do that? " All I had was one

peice and couldn't fit more. I felt like I was going to become a rock. In those

three weeks my skin improved tremendously, I was sleeping only 6 hours a night

and felt great, had lots more energy. Before when I was on SAD, I slept 8-10

hours a night and basically didn't want to do anything unless I had stimulants,

but I cut those out long ago and had been in a rut ever since I started raw

food.

For a few more weeks after that peice of peice I ate raw milk jack cheese and

some raw honey, but then I kept feeling certain feelings of my actions. I felt

in the overall sense I was violating my ideals and feelings of compassion by

eating it. I dropped the cheese, though I craved it, for moral reasons. Also I

noticed that after eating cheeses I would feel mucous arise in my throat like

and I would spit it up. This was another indicator to me that perhaps it was

something other than ideal or optimal for my body.

So, I continue adamantly on the raw food vegan organic path after this, this

time it was the middle of October. I feel great, my physique becomes really

defined and I am happy with this, however, I lost so much muscle. One factor for

this is I was not doing much if any physical activity, I was sitting on the

internet all the time researching everything because my mind felt so sharp and

clear and intensely focussed, it felt like I was addicted to my new found mental

capacity. My memory became intensely good, I memorized whole websites and

inundated my ex-girlfriend daily with every theory and idea I had found during

10 hours of research. Lots to do with spirituality and thoughts on the basic

physical manifestation and construction of the universe and how it relates to

observations of modern day physics and things like that. I was on a mission to

reconcile science and spirituality, being that I feel both natures within me

strongly.

There were many factors involved, but my ex-girlfriend broke up with me in

november, citing many reasons, especially about how zealous I had become with my

food. She said I had become like a " bible thumper " but with this that which I

was attempting. Perhaps indeed I had that intense level of insane devotion to

this concept and idea. I was heartbroken and sad, but never did I feel like I

wanted to quit the raw food organic vegan thing. Well, my bank broke and the

hundred and hundreds of dollars I was spending on organics came to an end

approximately thanksgiving time.

So I started to eat conventional again. Didn't bother to wash fruits and veggies

as much. I had people tell me things like the the USDA has poor enforcement on

control and the industry is corrupt so when you buy organic it's not really

organic. I felt like Every force and factor was coming at me to try to get me to

stop doing what I was doing. Well, so I stopped eating 100% organic, I figured

as long as I am still raw, that's okay.

People were telling me directly and indirectly that I was too skinny. Well, I

did drop all the way to 110 lbs, but the thing is, objectively I was stronger

than I was before. How do I know? I carried the same items with greater ease,

with less strain with more breath on this 100% organic vegan diet than when I

was on SAD. What items? 21 " CRT monitor, full size bed mattresses and bed

frames. Hours of intense labor seemed enjoyable on this new found diet and

gratitude for it poured out of me.

But was I too skinny? My waist shrunk to 26 " and my body fat was extremely low.

All I ate was salads with onions, garlic, tomato, and the like. I had celery

with guacamole and fruits, apples, oranges, pears. My diet didn't vary much and

I did eat until I was full enough that I could see my belly extend into

roundness, but the next morning I'd poop it all out and be right back to totally

flat. I felt so clean inside and happy and wonderful. But, I was missing the

physical activity aspect of the equation.

So, serendipity leads me to do yoga in January '07. OMG rocket fuel. Combining

this and raw food vegan changed my life so dramatically. Never had I experienced

this much bliss and happiness and energy before. But, this leads me to more

encounters with people and more and more I felt my emotional framework get

chipped away at. Especially with them telling me how skinny I was both directly

and indirectly. " You need to eat more fats, especially saturated fats. Are you

getting enough protein? You need to have XYZ or else you could die. You're too

extreme. You should be eating grains and legumes at every meal " What I heard was

" You look like a starving prisoner with ostrich legs " .

But the thing is, I would always have ample energy and endurance for the hour

forty five minute classes and would periodically do two of them in a day or even

two in a row. Inside of me was a superhuman feeling, but honestly these people I

have come to be closely associated with planted a seed of insecurity and

emotional doubt in me. And I unconsciously nurtured it.

Well, financially speaking my life had taken a turn in between jan and march of

this year. My emotions of security were in turmoil and I crashed. There are a

lot of emotional factors, one being my extreme lack of acceptance of my mother's

lack of acceptance with me, another being that in one type of yoga class, I had

two days in a row I pumped up my kidney chi energy really high, then depleted it

all on the following day and had been exposed to a person that was sick. I got

sick. I wasn't supposed to get sick on this diet, and I hadn't been even though

I had been exposed to sickness many times between september and march. I didn't

give it much thought, but I got sick. In a way, my faith in the raw food vegan

waivered. I started then after the recovery from the sickness (which took 3 days

total, the person who I was around who was sick said he was out being miserable

for 2 weeks)saturday, march 10, I ate popcorn. Then the next day more popcorn,

then the next day tortilla

chips and quacamole. More emotional distress and self-pitying, destroying the

framework of self-love I had built up this whole time. I led myself into frantic

cravings and desire for SAD food. then on friday the 16th, I caved and ate a

chicago style deep dish pizza with my sister, who said that with my talks about

food " You make people feel like shit " . And I know that means that I have made

her feel guilty over diet. So, we enjoyed comradarie and a pizza. Then after

that I ate Tira Misu. OMG I never thought I'd do such a thing again. And there

it was again, that feeling of being totally full and satisfied with food. Being

a raw vegan, never did I have that feeling of being full and satisfied, even if

I ate until I felt like I would burst. Never did I feel hunger pangs either. It

was like my body was just always happy with what it had in it, but why, why why

was I without that feeling of TUMMY YUMMY satisfaction? While the pizza and tira

misu all tasted great, that friday

night and saturday I felt terrible. Acid was eating my stomach and esophagus

and throat. I felt burning in every length of my digestive track and there was a

fire inside of me. That should have been enough to convince me that I should

stop, go back to the raw food diet I was feeling brilliant on, but no, it only

increased that ball of self pity rolling downhill which wanted to stop itself by

going for that tummy yummy satisfaction which only increased that ball rolling

instead of stopping it. On monday I ate donuts and everything starts to become

blurry in my memory. I could feel that aspect of will of compassion and love

within me trying to get me back on track, but it was getting trounced by that

selfish-pleasure addictional aspect. I will not get into the depths and lows

that I got to, but instead focus on what I found to be positive from the

experience.

Well, in a matter of 6 days on the SAD, my body blew up. I totally got encased

in a layer of fat and my belly rounded, ruining the beautiful six-pack that I

had. I started falling asleep during the day time and felt every aspect of life,

from perception of sound and light, to tactile sensations and emotional

reasoning to intellectual intuition and cognition get dull.

Where am I now? Well, I'm trying to be a raw vegan again, but my palette and

will are messed up. That part of me that wants to eat that cooked food for

pleasure is doing its best to keep me doing the things that are immediately

pleasing. I am definitely back on doing vegan diet which at least makes me feel

good about myself. These past 5 days since going back to vegan have been rough.

I do feel more and more desire for raw food, but things like french fries and

bean burritos are an extreme challenge to me right now.

I have had at one time everything I wanted, but I felt an aspect within me come

up and fight myself and introduce turmoil and conflict. It leaves me to wonder

why I lost my gratitude for being a raw food vegan. I know that the people

around me that I care about has a lot to do with it. I am the ONLY one in my

community of friends that is doing raw food vegan. When my ex-girlfriend and my

sister and her boyfriend tried it and was doing it successfully for a while I

felt good about that. I saw big changes in them, improvement in attitude, skin

condition, shape, everything. I know this is the right thing. But they fell out

of it, and when they did, I got the cold shoulder from them and really felt a

huge distance in how they treated me. Man, lots of heartbreaks for me in a row.

I guess I am glad for this challenge because this practice of unconditional

acceptance only strengthens the ability and capacity of the heart to stay in

faith resolved. What I came out with this is that I know that I know that I know

that raw food vegan is so awesome for people's everything. There is a part of me

crying that people I care about simply lack faith in this and it feels like they

now see me as a source of shame causing feelings for them or simply just don't

like me as much as they used to. I know I should be secure, but essentially I

lost a lot of friends because of this.

I believe only good things come out of every step of life and that all I have to

do is be more in the faith of what I find to be right and the path and direction

will open up. I will be back to 100% raw soon (today, I had some salted roasted

peanuts! Hey, I figured they are vegan at least).

The real reason why I personally ate raw is that I believe in a concept of all

creation and reality that it is just Oneness. It is one interconnected flow of

energy. That Infinity is aware and conscious and creates our world and every

other aspect of creation through doing vibrating or oscillation or inducting

frequency which then turns in on itself in various ways to create interactions

of constructive or destructive interferences. There are different frequencies of

vibrations for everything, because that is how unique differentiation occurrs,

through the various modes, patterns and frequency of vibration. I believe in my

heart of hearts that love, unconditional acceptance and compassion is a very

high frequency of vibration which means that it brings order and structure and

an upward evolution type thing to whatever energy pattern it touches whether

that is a rock or a tree or you or me. I believe that the opposite is true of

hate or anger or lack of acceptance, it is a

low frequency of vibration, or rather a non vibration that destroys frequencies

of energy into chaotic patterns. Out of these beliefs and understandings it

follows then one should have the most alive healthy compassionate beings there

are, and what are those? Well, plants of course! I believe cooking is a

destruction or a lowering of frequency and order of that energy, and anything we

eat then becomes part of us through sympathetic resonance. So, if you eat highly

vibrating (more energy) ordered substances (life is order!), then you will gain

more energy and life which means you will vibrate at higher frequency and order

(coherence).

So, I guess I will use this time to ask those of you who feel the resonance of

this message to ask for strength for me to keep on truckin' on this raw food

vegan path. I also offer to anyone who would like, I will devote my will,

energy, soul, spirit to send you my love and energy for a similar or any other

purpose as long as it is in the name of love and unconditional acceptance.

Thanks for everything,

Bobby

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March 28, 2007

Hi,

I'm new to the group. I seem to follow Erin around from list to

list--hi, Erin. LOL!

Anyway, my name is Marjorie and I live in northern Illinois with my

husband and 3 kids. I have an obsession about nutrition and love to

research it. I have been a vegetarian for 11 years (except for a

period during my first pregnancy and a couple of fish meals during

my third).

My husband and I started doing a plan called Eat to Live because of

his problems with Type 2 Diabetes. (For those of you unfamiliar,

the Eat to Live diet is about 50% raw.) After reading the book, I

realized that I should really try to do something about my own

weight problem as well as raise my children to hopefully avoid the

problems that we have had. He lost 95 pounds and I have lost 36 as

of today. I have been working toward veganism after reading the

China Study. My main issue is eating cakes and other non-vegan

foods at social occasions. Other than those minor detours, I am not

consuming animal foods.

I still feel uncomfortable with my relationship with eating and

would like to find a niche where I feel completely healthy.

I have had a raw cookbook that for a long time that I enjoy trying

the recipes (I usually don't try the high fat ones because I can't

afford the ingredients). I also sprout. Recently, on a weightloss

site, I met a woman who was following Doug Graham's 80-10-10 plan

and she inspired me to try several stints of 3-4 days of all raw. I

have also been surfing around the various raw sites and looking at

all of the competing ideas of what the best raw diet is...

I find one of the benefits of going raw is that I don't crave salt

and when I'm not eating salt, I don't wake up stiff and bloated. I

also notice a lot less gas (probably the elimination of cooked

beans).

My family struggles to have enough money to buy fresh produce (let

alone organic!), so I don't forsee raw fruit completely replacing

beans and brown rice just yet. We are growing a big garden this

year and that should help.

I look forward to hearing about everyone's experiences.

Marjorie

March 28, 2007

Hi Bobby,

Wow that was quite a read! I admire you for the way you can express your

feelings. The journey to healthful living is not always easy as it goes against

so much of our traditional cultural society. I have found the less I say about

my food preferences, the better. I'm not out to convert anyone, but if anyone

is interested I'm always willing to share what I have learned along my journey.

I am alone in my food choices, but certainly not alone with my family and

friends. Although they don't share in the types of foods that I prefer, they do

respect my choices. When we get together it is all about each other and not

about food we are eating. My friends and family are very considerate of me and

always choose restaurants where they know I can get a salad and on my birthdays,

they shower me with big baskets of fruits. So I do think that even though our

food choices are different, we can have a mutual love and respect for each

other. The other day one of my friends mentioned to someone that I was a

vegetarian and that person ask me for how long. I said it had been about 25

years and her first question was " how do you get your protein? " . I commenced to

tell her about amino acids, chains and plant foods, but could tell I was talking

way above her understanding and that she was not interested, so immediately

changed the subject. You have to know when to share and when to be silent if

you want people to respect you. Stay with what you believe and have the faith

in knowing it will work. Being a part of groups like this with like-minded

people will keep you focused and encouraged.

Sharon,

getmaryb <getmaryb<getmaryb> wrote: Hi!

I'm new to the group, but I have a history of playing around with my

food, including some all raw times, cleansing, etc. I know there are

a lot of variances in the raw/vegan/vegetarian worlds, but I thought

I'd say " hi " and see if anyone can relate and share some...

....

What about everyone here? It's nice to meet you! Got an interesting

raw story or factoid? Best Wishes, Mary

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