Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 You know, Animal Behavior was one of the best classes I ever took. Ach, nostalgia...Human Psychology had some fascinating and funny moments too, but I guess Animal Behavior seemed more mysterious, and exciting, as though I were being taught how to learn the secret language of aliens... We are all animals, I love to acknowledge. What we laugh at in wild lemmings, we can also laugh at in ourselves. What we fear in wild tigers, we might also fear in ourselves. What we find touching and inspiring in wild elephants, we might also find touching and inspring in ourselves. But à propos of Velvet's comment (below), I found an excerpt from an interview with Mr. Hawking himself that gave me a jolly giggle, and let me remember with much glee and humility once more that we are all just earth-bound animals! Here it is, from the NYT magazine, December 2004. Perhaps since then, he has told the public what his IQ is? I copy: " I: Do you feel that scientists correct themselves as often as they should? S.H: More often than politicians, but not as often as they should. I: What is your I.Q.? S.H: I have no idea. People who boast about their I.Q. are losers. I: How can we know if you qualify as a genius physicist, as you are invariably described? S.H: The media need superheroes in science just as in every sphere of life, but there is really a continuous range of abilities with no clear dividing line. I: Are you saying you are not a genius? S.H: I hope I'm near the upper end of the range. " rawfood , " Velvet " <la_velvet wrote: > > I have the same IQ as the physics' professor Stephen Hawking...he of > the wheel chair and 'funny' voice translator. > > I speak of that which appears obvious to me. > > I am unsure how to do that any more simply if I am to show the greater > nature of what I see. But Velvet, you make me wonder something else: what does our dear Stephen Hawking eat??! And how?? So many " geniuses " of the past have been reported as having cultivated eccentric eating habits. Einstein was a vegetarian I believe....Neitzche was quite an ascetic, if I remember correctly. Does anyone know of any illustrious left-brainers who specifically ate raw foods only? If we found someone, we could make clever raw-food-happy t-shirts with their portrait on it and sell them on ivy-league campuses! Blessings, -Storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 rawfood , " Love Food Lane " <lovefoodlaughter wrote: > > You know, If they 'know'...you shouldn't need to 'tell' them... >>Animal Behavior was one of the best classes I ever took. Ach, nostalgia...Human > Psychology had some fascinating and funny moments too, but I guess Animal Behavior > seemed more mysterious, and exciting, as though I were being taught how to learn the > secret language of aliens... > > We are all animals, I love to acknowledge. I am sure that you do, if you say that you do. I look forward to the continued stream of your loving to say it. Though quite why you would, when the intelligent people of this forum will witness this, unfolding in its time, WITHOUT forwarning... What we laugh at in wild lemmings, we can also > laugh at in ourselves. What we fear in wild tigers, we might also fear in ourselves. What we > find touching and inspiring in wild elephants, we might also find touching and inspring in > ourselves. You can PROPOSE that 'we' do such and such an anything....but you must QUALIFY the 'we' you are authorised to speak FOR. You may say that SOME Human Beings laugh at: or fear: or whistle: or burp at raspberries: But you cannot speak for 'me' CERTAINLY, for 'I' find lemmings nothing whatever to laugh at, or indeed, to sigh over. What is the purpose of that laughter over a simple wild creature living in groups somewhere on this planet, except perhaps to release pent-up up of bowel gas <nature 'moves' in mysterious ways> and as for fear...I fear ONLY ignorance. ONLY that. Therefore YOUR 'we' is not me or mine. Whic your 'we' does not take account for. <be sure you can be SURE of what you mean to say, before you say it> > But à propos of Velvet's comment (below), I found an excerpt from an interview with Mr. > Hawking himself that gave me a jolly giggle, and let me remember with much glee and > humility once more that we are all just earth-bound animals! Here it is, from the NYT > magazine, December 2004. Perhaps since then, he has told the public what his IQ is? It is indeed in the high IQ public. Had you asked me... But, 'perhaps' it is the case that you trust only 'your' emotivisms...when making An Entrance...off the back of what you have been taught to handle as the only accpetable 'common denominator' of 'we are roses and light, none are permited to be greater than any'... THAT disserves Human nature. Which is competent AND INcompetent by degrees of individuality. INCOMPETENT is not to be brushed under the carpet ...either. > I copy: > > " I: Do you feel that scientists correct themselves as often as they should? > > S.H: More often than politicians, but not as often as they should. > > I: What is your I.Q.? > > S.H: I have no idea. People who boast about their I.Q. are losers. THAT I do not consider likely. You will, for purposes of equity, be happy, I am sure..to post here the circumstances of P. Hawkings interview....which is to say: with whom and for which publication /or audience. Unless Prof. Hawking is particularly emotionally immature...or no complete scientist, I find that statement to be incongruent. Scientists in public eye, thus capable of being Peer reviewed on every issuing 'word', more so than any in a purely private capacity...should refer their 'understanding' to experimental data and its results if they are to underpin such 'generalised' and EMOTIVE claims. Particularly the sort of scientist in the Popular domain.. Perhaps, though, that was a PANDER to those who are insecure with learning and intellectual betterment... There are a lot of people insecure enough to rush to the defence of any...apparantly left out, in the 'fortunate' stakes. Even where average is not being attacked, but merely not 'in' the picture under discussion. > > I: How can we know if you qualify as a genius physicist, as you are invariably described? > > S.H: The media need superheroes in science just as in every sphere of life, but there is > really a continuous range of abilities with no clear dividing line. > > I: Are you saying you are not a genius? > > S.H: I hope I'm near the upper end of the range. " You will explain your motivations for the above...I am sure. > > rawfood , " Velvet " <la_velvet@> wrote: > > > > I have the same IQ as the physics' professor Stephen Hawking...he of > > the wheel chair and 'funny' voice translator. > > > > I speak of that which appears obvious to me. > > > > I am unsure how to do that any more simply if I am to show the greater > > nature of what I see. > > > But Velvet, you make me wonder something else: what does our dear Stephen Hawking > eat??! And how?? > So many " geniuses " of the past have been reported as having cultivated eccentric eating > habits. Einstein was a vegetarian I believe....Neitzche was quite an ascetic, if I remember > correctly. Does anyone know of any illustrious left-brainers who specifically ate raw foods > only? If we found someone, we could make clever raw-food-happy t-shirts with their > portrait on it and sell them on ivy-league campuses! > > Blessings, > -Storm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Velvet, My well-wishes upon you! I'm afraid I didn't understand much of your post... No matter-- mine wasn't terribly important either, just free-associating around the ideas of " animal behavior " and IQ... since you brought it up, I just started wondering if there's a possible association with raw foods... A lot people report that after they go raw they feel that they think more clearly. DO you know what Stephen Hawking eats? Or of any other famous " genius " who eats/ate raw? Have a great day! -Storm rawfood , " Velvet " <la_velvet wrote: > > rawfood , " Love Food Lane " > <lovefoodlaughter@> wrote: > > > > You know, > > > If they 'know'...you shouldn't need to 'tell' them... > > > >>Animal Behavior was one of the best classes I ever took. Ach, > nostalgia...Human > > Psychology had some fascinating and funny moments too, but I guess > Animal Behavior > > seemed more mysterious, and exciting, as though I were being taught > how to learn the > > secret language of aliens... > > > > We are all animals, I love to acknowledge. > > > > I am sure that you do, if you say that you do. > > I look forward to the continued stream of your loving to say it. > > Though quite why you would, when the intelligent people of this forum > will witness this, unfolding in its time, WITHOUT forwarning... > > > What we laugh at in wild lemmings, we can also > > laugh at in ourselves. What we fear in wild tigers, we might also > fear in ourselves. What we > > find touching and inspiring in wild elephants, we might also find > touching and inspring in > > ourselves. > > > You can PROPOSE that 'we' do such and such an anything....but you must > QUALIFY the 'we' you are authorised to speak FOR. > > You may say that SOME Human Beings laugh at: or fear: or whistle: or > burp at raspberries: > > But you cannot speak for 'me' CERTAINLY, for 'I' find lemmings nothing > whatever to laugh at, or indeed, to sigh over. What is the purpose of > that laughter over a simple wild creature living in groups somewhere > on this planet, except perhaps to release pent-up up of bowel gas > > <nature 'moves' in mysterious ways> > > and as for fear...I fear ONLY > > ignorance. > > ONLY that. > > Therefore YOUR 'we' is not me or mine. Whic your 'we' does not take > account for. > > <be sure you can be SURE of what you mean to say, before you say it> > > > > But à propos of Velvet's comment (below), I found an excerpt from an > interview with Mr. > > Hawking himself that gave me a jolly giggle, and let me remember > with much glee and > > humility once more that we are all just earth-bound animals! Here it > is, from the NYT > > magazine, December 2004. Perhaps since then, he has told the public > what his IQ is? > > > It is indeed in the high IQ public. Had you asked me... > > But, 'perhaps' it is the case that you trust only 'your' > emotivisms...when making An Entrance...off the back of what you have > been taught to handle as the only accpetable 'common denominator' of > 'we are roses and light, none are permited to be greater than any'... > > THAT disserves Human nature. Which is competent AND INcompetent by > degrees of individuality. > > INCOMPETENT is not to be brushed under the carpet ...either. > > > > I copy: > > > > " I: Do you feel that scientists correct themselves as often as they > should? > > > > S.H: More often than politicians, but not as often as they should. > > > > I: What is your I.Q.? > > > > S.H: I have no idea. People who boast about their I.Q. are losers. > > > THAT I do not consider likely. > > You will, for purposes of equity, be happy, I am sure..to post here > the circumstances of P. Hawkings interview....which is to say: with > whom and for which publication /or audience. > > Unless Prof. Hawking is particularly emotionally immature...or no > complete scientist, I find that statement to be incongruent. > > Scientists in public eye, thus capable of being Peer reviewed on every > issuing 'word', more so than any in a purely private capacity...should > refer their 'understanding' to experimental data and its results if > they are to underpin such 'generalised' and EMOTIVE claims. > > Particularly the sort of scientist in the Popular domain.. > > Perhaps, though, that was a PANDER to those who are insecure with > learning and intellectual betterment... > > There are a lot of people insecure enough to rush to the defence of > any...apparantly left out, in the 'fortunate' stakes. Even where > average is not being attacked, but merely not 'in' the picture under > discussion. > > > > > > I: How can we know if you qualify as a genius physicist, as you are > invariably described? > > > > S.H: The media need superheroes in science just as in every sphere > of life, but there is > > really a continuous range of abilities with no clear dividing line. > > > > I: Are you saying you are not a genius? > > > > S.H: I hope I'm near the upper end of the range. " > > > You will explain your motivations for the above...I am sure. > > > > > > > rawfood , " Velvet " <la_velvet@> wrote: > > > > > > I have the same IQ as the physics' professor Stephen Hawking...he of > > > the wheel chair and 'funny' voice translator. > > > > > > I speak of that which appears obvious to me. > > > > > > I am unsure how to do that any more simply if I am to show the greater > > > nature of what I see. > > > > > > But Velvet, you make me wonder something else: what does our dear > Stephen Hawking > > eat??! And how?? > > So many " geniuses " of the past have been reported as having > cultivated eccentric eating > > habits. Einstein was a vegetarian I believe....Neitzche was quite an > ascetic, if I remember > > correctly. Does anyone know of any illustrious left-brainers who > specifically ate raw foods > > only? If we found someone, we could make clever raw-food-happy > t-shirts with their > > portrait on it and sell them on ivy-league campuses! > > > > Blessings, > > -Storm > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 ALL of the moments of my life are important. Which is why I don't aim to give their importance away... or 'deny' that which is fundamental to my Self. Hence good health and plenty of mental work. rawfood , " Love Food Lane " <lovefoodlaughter wrote: > > Velvet, > My well-wishes upon you! I'm afraid I didn't understand much of your post... No matter-- > mine wasn't terribly important either, just free-associating around the ideas of " animal > behavior " and IQ... since you brought it up, I just started wondering if there's a possible > association with raw foods... A lot people report that after they go raw they feel that they > think more clearly. > DO you know what Stephen Hawking eats? Or of any other famous " genius " who eats/ate > raw? > Have a great day! > > -Storm > rawfood , " Velvet " <la_velvet@> wrote: > > > > rawfood , " Love Food Lane " > > <lovefoodlaughter@> wrote: > > > > > > You know, > > > > > > If they 'know'...you shouldn't need to 'tell' them... > > > > > > >>Animal Behavior was one of the best classes I ever took. Ach, > > nostalgia...Human > > > Psychology had some fascinating and funny moments too, but I guess > > Animal Behavior > > > seemed more mysterious, and exciting, as though I were being taught > > how to learn the > > > secret language of aliens... > > > > > > We are all animals, I love to acknowledge. > > > > > > > > I am sure that you do, if you say that you do. > > > > I look forward to the continued stream of your loving to say it. > > > > Though quite why you would, when the intelligent people of this forum > > will witness this, unfolding in its time, WITHOUT forwarning... > > > > > > What we laugh at in wild lemmings, we can also > > > laugh at in ourselves. What we fear in wild tigers, we might also > > fear in ourselves. What we > > > find touching and inspiring in wild elephants, we might also find > > touching and inspring in > > > ourselves. > > > > > > You can PROPOSE that 'we' do such and such an anything....but you must > > QUALIFY the 'we' you are authorised to speak FOR. > > > > You may say that SOME Human Beings laugh at: or fear: or whistle: or > > burp at raspberries: > > > > But you cannot speak for 'me' CERTAINLY, for 'I' find lemmings nothing > > whatever to laugh at, or indeed, to sigh over. What is the purpose of > > that laughter over a simple wild creature living in groups somewhere > > on this planet, except perhaps to release pent-up up of bowel gas > > > > <nature 'moves' in mysterious ways> > > > > and as for fear...I fear ONLY > > > > ignorance. > > > > ONLY that. > > > > Therefore YOUR 'we' is not me or mine. Whic your 'we' does not take > > account for. > > > > <be sure you can be SURE of what you mean to say, before you say it> > > > > > > > But à propos of Velvet's comment (below), I found an excerpt from an > > interview with Mr. > > > Hawking himself that gave me a jolly giggle, and let me remember > > with much glee and > > > humility once more that we are all just earth-bound animals! Here it > > is, from the NYT > > > magazine, December 2004. Perhaps since then, he has told the public > > what his IQ is? > > > > > > It is indeed in the high IQ public. Had you asked me... > > > > But, 'perhaps' it is the case that you trust only 'your' > > emotivisms...when making An Entrance...off the back of what you have > > been taught to handle as the only accpetable 'common denominator' of > > 'we are roses and light, none are permited to be greater than any'... > > > > THAT disserves Human nature. Which is competent AND INcompetent by > > degrees of individuality. > > > > INCOMPETENT is not to be brushed under the carpet ...either. > > > > > > > I copy: > > > > > > " I: Do you feel that scientists correct themselves as often as they > > should? > > > > > > S.H: More often than politicians, but not as often as they should. > > > > > > I: What is your I.Q.? > > > > > > S.H: I have no idea. People who boast about their I.Q. are losers. > > > > > > THAT I do not consider likely. > > > > You will, for purposes of equity, be happy, I am sure..to post here > > the circumstances of P. Hawkings interview....which is to say: with > > whom and for which publication /or audience. > > > > Unless Prof. Hawking is particularly emotionally immature...or no > > complete scientist, I find that statement to be incongruent. > > > > Scientists in public eye, thus capable of being Peer reviewed on every > > issuing 'word', more so than any in a purely private capacity...should > > refer their 'understanding' to experimental data and its results if > > they are to underpin such 'generalised' and EMOTIVE claims. > > > > Particularly the sort of scientist in the Popular domain.. > > > > Perhaps, though, that was a PANDER to those who are insecure with > > learning and intellectual betterment... > > > > There are a lot of people insecure enough to rush to the defence of > > any...apparantly left out, in the 'fortunate' stakes. Even where > > average is not being attacked, but merely not 'in' the picture under > > discussion. > > > > > > > > > > I: How can we know if you qualify as a genius physicist, as you are > > invariably described? > > > > > > S.H: The media need superheroes in science just as in every sphere > > of life, but there is > > > really a continuous range of abilities with no clear dividing line. > > > > > > I: Are you saying you are not a genius? > > > > > > S.H: I hope I'm near the upper end of the range. " > > > > > > You will explain your motivations for the above...I am sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > rawfood , " Velvet " <la_velvet@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I have the same IQ as the physics' professor Stephen Hawking...he of > > > > the wheel chair and 'funny' voice translator. > > > > > > > > I speak of that which appears obvious to me. > > > > > > > > I am unsure how to do that any more simply if I am to show the greater > > > > nature of what I see. > > > > > > > > > But Velvet, you make me wonder something else: what does our dear > > Stephen Hawking > > > eat??! And how?? > > > So many " geniuses " of the past have been reported as having > > cultivated eccentric eating > > > habits. Einstein was a vegetarian I believe....Neitzche was quite an > > ascetic, if I remember > > > correctly. Does anyone know of any illustrious left-brainers who > > specifically ate raw foods > > > only? If we found someone, we could make clever raw-food-happy > > t-shirts with their > > > portrait on it and sell them on ivy-league campuses! > > > > > > Blessings, > > > -Storm > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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