Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Didn't see a response to this so I'll put in my 2 cents-- If it were me, I would assume that the acne or rash is a sign that your body is cleansing. The raw food itself is not causing the break out, rather your body, by eating more properly, now has the energy to remove some stored debris. Kim On Feb 14, 2006, at 6:20 PM, lanetholstrom wrote: > I have recently started eating 75-80% raw, live food. I eat no sugar > or refined products. Shortly after starting to eat this way, my face > started breaking out, something I rarely have problems with. Has > anyone else experienced this phenomenon after switching to a raw > diet? If so, could it be toxins leaving my system? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 acne is caused by bacteria. see a doctor. they DO have their uses. Dennis Kimberly Dawkins <kdawk wrote: Didn't see a response to this so I'll put in my 2 cents-- If it were me, I would assume that the acne or rash is a sign that your body is cleansing. The raw food itself is not causing the break out, rather your body, by eating more properly, now has the energy to remove some stored debris. Kim On Feb 14, 2006, at 6:20 PM, lanetholstrom wrote: > I have recently started eating 75-80% raw, live food. I eat no sugar > or refined products. Shortly after starting to eat this way, my face > started breaking out, something I rarely have problems with. Has > anyone else experienced this phenomenon after switching to a raw > diet? If so, could it be toxins leaving my system? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 The only thing a Doctor would do is give him medicated creams for the acne. I really don't think that's the best course of action, do you? A LOT of raw foodists break out when they first become raw doesn't that tell you it's related to cleansing? It will get better. Debra --- The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean wrote: > acne is caused by bacteria. > see a doctor. > they DO have their uses. > Dennis > > Kimberly Dawkins <kdawk wrote: > Didn't see a response to this so I'll put in my 2 > cents-- > > If it were me, I would assume that the acne or rash > is a sign that > your body is cleansing. The raw food itself is not > causing the break > out, rather your body, by eating more properly, now > has the energy to > remove some stored debris. > > Kim > > On Feb 14, 2006, at 6:20 PM, lanetholstrom wrote: > > > I have recently started eating 75-80% raw, live > food. I eat no sugar > > or refined products. Shortly after starting to > eat this way, my face > > started breaking out, something I rarely have > problems with. Has > > anyone else experienced this phenomenon after > switching to a raw > > diet? If so, could it be toxins leaving my > system? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 At Wed, 15 Feb 2006 it looks like Kimberly Dawkins composed: > Didn't see a response to this so I'll put in my 2 cents-- > > If it were me, I would assume that the acne or rash is a sign that > your body is cleansing. The raw food itself is not causing the break > out, rather your body, by eating more properly, now has the energy to > remove some stored debris. > > Kim > > On Feb 14, 2006, at 6:20 PM, lanetholstrom wrote: > > > I have recently started eating 75-80% raw, live food. I eat no sugar > > or refined products. Shortly after starting to eat this way, my face > > started breaking out, something I rarely have problems with. Has > > anyone else experienced this phenomenon after switching to a raw > > diet? If so, could it be toxins leaving my system? > > > > I too will chime in with a " second " to the above statement. I'm about 70% raw and there were two times in particular where I went full 100% and after the first week when my body would finally get " shocked " by the lack of sugars and other vegatarian type foods I would get some flu/cold like symptoms. I apologize for not posting sooner, I was more or less waiting for someone else to post I guess. -- Bill Schoolcraft, PO Box 210076, San Francisco, CA 94121 http://wiliweld.com " If your life was nothing but sunshine, you would just be a desert. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 it seems people think dr's are crazed killers and death dealing liars. they're not. modern medicine has it's legitimate uses. i had a friend who needed radiation treatments he let acne get so bad. it's caused by acteria in the skin. if someone is so toxin filled that a little nutrition makes their skin rot, they are probably walking dead anyway. Dennis Debra <jube333 wrote: The only thing a Doctor would do is give him medicated creams for the acne. I really don't think that's the best course of action, do you? A LOT of raw foodists break out when they first become raw doesn't that tell you it's related to cleansing? It will get better. Debra --- The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean wrote: > acne is caused by bacteria. > see a doctor. > they DO have their uses. > Dennis > > Kimberly Dawkins <kdawk wrote: > Didn't see a response to this so I'll put in my 2 > cents-- > > If it were me, I would assume that the acne or rash > is a sign that > your body is cleansing. The raw food itself is not > causing the break > out, rather your body, by eating more properly, now > has the energy to > remove some stored debris. > > Kim > > On Feb 14, 2006, at 6:20 PM, lanetholstrom wrote: > > > I have recently started eating 75-80% raw, live > food. I eat no sugar > > or refined products. Shortly after starting to > eat this way, my face > > started breaking out, something I rarely have > problems with. Has > > anyone else experienced this phenomenon after > switching to a raw > > diet? If so, could it be toxins leaving my > system? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Reattaching a limb, setting a broken bone- those are legitimate medical treatments. There will NEVER be a point in my life where I NEED radiation. That is completely illegitimate, and downright dangerous. Doctors/hospitals/prescriptions are the third leading cause of death in this country. How much of that do you think was done under the guise of being legitimate? The Wrong Hands wrote: > it seems people think dr's are crazed killers and > death dealing liars. they're not. modern medicine > has it's legitimate uses. i had a friend who needed > radiation treatments he let acne get so bad. <snip> -- Swap Your Paperback Books - PaperBackSwap.com <http://www.paperbackswap.com/index.php?n=1 & r_by=raineluvsj > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Wow, that was harsh. Anyway, this is my first time responding on this board. I usually just sit back and read. But it is a fact that when your body is detoxing, it will show up on your skin. It's not that you are rotting. And all skin outbreaks are not acne, that's something that a dermatologist will also tell you. And example would be hives, caused by an allergic reaction. Because your skin is the largest organ on your body, it is the most likely to show the effects of your fast, the same with the whites of your eyes. The same way you can tell someone is healthy body their skin glowing, why wouldn't you be able to tell someone is unhealthy or healing by their blemishes? Detoxing can cause skin bumps, boils, dark spots, etc. One way that you could work on your skin is by using a sauna if you have access. Sweating is the best way to detox and it will speed up the process of elimination. Also, if you take your diet to 100% raw it will speed up the process. If you stay at your current percentage and add large amounts of fresh veggie juice, specifically green juices with a little fruit added for sweetness, this will also speed up the process. Common sense tells me that if you weren't prone to breakouts before you started raw, then it has something to do with the dietary change. And if you know that the dietary changes are good for you, then it's more obviously a detox symptom than something being " wrong " . And my personal opinion is that doctors don't know scrap. If you go to the dermatologist, he or she is going to give you a prescription to clear up your skin, period. The are not going to take a full evaluation of your eating habits, lifestyle, stress issues, or environmental issues. They DO NOT focus on finding the root of the problem and solving it. They do patchwork. And if your breakouts are not due to bacteria, how much topical steriods and antibiotics will you have used before they figure that out? You're on the right track. Don't let people deter you. Congrats on your progress, and may you see much more. S~~ rawfood , The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean wrote: > > it seems people think dr's are crazed killers and > death dealing liars. they're not. modern medicine > has it's legitimate uses. i had a friend who needed > radiation treatments he let acne get so bad. it's > caused by acteria in the skin. > if someone is so toxin filled > that a little nutrition makes their skin rot, they are probably > walking dead anyway. > Dennis > > > > > > Debra <jube333 wrote: > The only thing a Doctor would do is give him medicated > creams for the acne. I really don't think that's the > best course of action, do you? A LOT of raw foodists > break out when they first become raw doesn't that tell > you it's related to cleansing? It will get better. > > Debra > > --- The Wrong Hands <with_favas_bean wrote: > > > acne is caused by bacteria. > > see a doctor. > > they DO have their uses. > > Dennis > > > > Kimberly Dawkins <kdawk wrote: > > Didn't see a response to this so I'll put in my 2 > > cents-- > > > > If it were me, I would assume that the acne or rash > > is a sign that > > your body is cleansing. The raw food itself is not > > causing the break > > out, rather your body, by eating more properly, now > > has the energy to > > remove some stored debris. > > > > Kim > > > > On Feb 14, 2006, at 6:20 PM, lanetholstrom wrote: > > > > > I have recently started eating 75-80% raw, live > > food. I eat no sugar > > > or refined products. Shortly after starting to > > eat this way, my face > > > started breaking out, something I rarely have > > problems with. Has > > > anyone else experienced this phenomenon after > > switching to a raw > > > diet? If so, could it be toxins leaving my > > system? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 As far as M.Ds understanding what to do during When the body is going thru crisis or whatever disease, ask Dr. Day what she thinks of them, www.drday.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 I was wondering if anyone had some reliable info on what foods - if any - tend to be toxic if eaten raw. I've read that kidney beans are somewhat toxic unless cooked. Also I think Andrew Weil wrote in one of his books that mushrooms were. I love raw mushrooms and so does my 11yo daughter, but I'm afraid to let her eat too many. Does anyone have definitive info on raw 'shrooms? thanks!! -Caroline ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Raw: http://www.rawtiffin.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 This is the list I often refer to. I know some people have varying ideas on what is and isn't, but here it is http://www.rawschool.com/bestrawfoods.htm Caroline <carojo95 rawfood Friday, April 27, 2007 4:51:28 AM [Raw Food] toxins? I was wondering if anyone had some reliable info on what foods - if any - tend to be toxic if eaten raw. I've read that kidney beans are somewhat toxic unless cooked. Also I think Andrew Weil wrote in one of his books that mushrooms were. I love raw mushrooms and so does my 11yo daughter, but I'm afraid to let her eat too many. Does anyone have definitive info on raw 'shrooms? thanks!! -Caroline ~*~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~ *~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~ Raw: http://www.rawtiffi n.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 This list sure has a lot of DON'T eats- curious then why so many " raw foodists " ie- the Boutenko's, Alissa Cohen and others use them quite often in their cook books? Reading the list from the raw school makes wonder. At 01:18 PM 4/27/2007, you wrote: >This is the list I often refer to. I know some people have varying >ideas on what is and isn't, but here it is > ><http://www.rawschool.com/bestrawfoods.htm>http://www.rawschool.com/bestrawfood\ s.htm > > >Caroline <<carojo95%40gmail.com>carojo95 ><rawfood%40>rawfood >Friday, April 27, 2007 4:51:28 AM >[Raw Food] toxins? > >I was wondering if anyone had some reliable info on what foods - if any - >tend to be toxic if eaten raw. I've read that kidney beans are somewhat >toxic unless cooked. Also I think Andrew Weil wrote in one of his books >that mushrooms were. I love raw mushrooms and so does my 11yo daughter, but >I'm afraid to let her eat too many. Does anyone have definitive info on raw >'shrooms? > >thanks!! >-Caroline >~*~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~ *~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~ >Raw: <http://www.rawtiffi>http://www.rawtiffi n.com/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 >As did I > > > >Hmm, after reading that list, could we just see what's left to eat? > >I was taken back a bit for just about every vegetable I know had a >bad ranking. > >-- >Bill Schoolcraft, PO Box 210076, San Francisco, CA 94121 > ><http://wiliweld.com>http://wiliweld.com > > " If your life was nothing but sunshine, you would just be a desert. " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 At Fri, 27 Apr 2007 it looks like The Grrl composed: > This is the list I often refer to. I know some people have varying ideas on what is and isn't, but here it is > > http://www.rawschool.com/bestrawfoods.htm > Hmm, after reading that list, could we just see what's left to eat? I was taken back a bit for just about every vegetable I know had a bad ranking. -- Bill Schoolcraft, PO Box 210076, San Francisco, CA 94121 http://wiliweld.com " If your life was nothing but sunshine, you would just be a desert. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 This is one I refer to because it helps me determine and also makes me research the one's referred to as toxic. In the end, you do what works for you. So far, I've only seen this list. Tanya Carly Streiff <carly.streiff rawfood Friday, April 27, 2007 2:36:28 PM Re: [Raw Food] toxins? This list sure has a lot of DON'T eats- curious then why so many " raw foodists " ie- the Boutenko's, Alissa Cohen and others use them quite often in their cook books? Reading the list from the raw school makes wonder. At 01:18 PM 4/27/2007, you wrote: >This is the list I often refer to. I know some people have varying >ideas on what is and isn't, but here it is > ><http://www.rawschoo l.com/bestrawfoo ds.htm>http://www.rawschoo l.com/bestrawfoo ds.htm > > >Caroline <<carojo95% 40gmail.com>carojo95 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> ><rawfood% 40. com>rawfood@ .com >Friday, April 27, 2007 4:51:28 AM >[Raw Food] toxins? > >I was wondering if anyone had some reliable info on what foods - if any - >tend to be toxic if eaten raw. I've read that kidney beans are somewhat >toxic unless cooked. Also I think Andrew Weil wrote in one of his books >that mushrooms were. I love raw mushrooms and so does my 11yo daughter, but >I'm afraid to let her eat too many. Does anyone have definitive info on raw >'shrooms? > >thanks!! >-Caroline >~*~*~*~*~*~ * ~*~*~*~*~ *~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~ >Raw: <http://www.rawtiffi>http://www.rawtiffi n.com/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 To comment on that list that I put out there, I was hoping someone on here that has been a long time raw foodist could give their thoughts. For that particular list found on rawschool.com, that is the person I learned from and learned a lot of great things. I know the thought is out there " If this is all I can eat, what's the POINT? " Basically, if I have a really hard time digesting something, it makes me feel sluggish or I have a lot of pain associated with eating it, I know it's not right for me. In the end, it really is about listening to what you really want. I haven't been doing this as long as some others have (nor have I studied and am not a nutritionist), I just put it out there because it at least gives me something to go by. Tanya Caroline <carojo95 rawfood Friday, April 27, 2007 4:51:28 AM [Raw Food] toxins? I was wondering if anyone had some reliable info on what foods - if any - tend to be toxic if eaten raw. I've read that kidney beans are somewhat toxic unless cooked. Also I think Andrew Weil wrote in one of his books that mushrooms were. I love raw mushrooms and so does my 11yo daughter, but I'm afraid to let her eat too many. Does anyone have definitive info on raw 'shrooms? thanks!! -Caroline ~*~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~ *~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~ Raw: http://www.rawtiffi n.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 We need to soak nuts and seeds prior to eating in order to neutralize the enzyme inhibitor in these foods. Learn from squirrels that bury their nuts and wait for the rain to soak them. Then they dig them up and eat them. Once soaked, the natural occurring food enzymes are awakened and will help in the predigest ion. Raoul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Hi Grrl & all, Okay, I've been raw a while now - and lean toward the Natural Hygine style of living that I studied 30ish years ago, perhaps my comments will be helpful. This list that was posted is actually very good. If you read carefully and notice all the words in the comments, the author did not indicate that these were the only foods available or optimal for mankind. The author did, however, indicate which foods were more often useful for transitioning to a more optimal dietary choice or which foods were useful for 'entertainment' and variety in that more optimal choice. The author also in the first row's columns noted that fruit was definately optimal and that there are thousands of varieties that are available to humans. For example there are hundreds of varieties of mango that grow on the earth and that ripen at different times of the year. If you are used to only the green/red/yellowish mangos we often see in american grocery stores you are missing out on an adventure - just try the Champagne mangos that are available right now, yum! The transition process is relatively similar for most people choosing to adopt a more optimal natural lifestyle and raw diet. Often you first begin hearing or reading something, aim to research, begin to dabble a bit by trying out adding more fruits and veggies to their diet. Gradually you begin trying out more and more things, then you find out that you can make raw foods taste like, look like and resemble the foods you really don't want to give up yet - which is all great and all part of the process of learning and life, accept it and see where it leads. Now just a bit of friendly advice - try to use what you already have, keep it simple and don't go spending lots of money in any of these phases because you might change your mind down the road a bit. If you notice on many online boards long time raw foodies often post that they haven't used their dehydrators in ages - so unless you are starting a restaraunt or just like spending money, what is the point in buying a $400 one over a $60 one that does the same job - BUT you decide, this is about your life, your choices, your goals, your health, mental health, relationships etc. Take what you need and leave the rest. Remember to follow your intuition and what that means is to follow the things that aim you closer to happiness (not addictions - the definitions and differences come with time)in the long run. Okay back to the transition phases - so after the whole mimiking (sp?) cooked foods phase, comes the simplifying phase where you notice you no longer want the same stuff or the process takes too long or you're just tired of all the months you've spend looking for new ideas on the internet or in bookstores reading and buying cookbooks. You often begin to eat more simple salads and smoothies and then after a while you come to another stage where you wonder why you are blending up all this stuff when you could save yourself the trouble of washing all those containers by just peeling the (for example) bananas and eating them. Somewhere along in here, if you've ever had a weight problem or not you experience and define and learn about real hunger vs wanting something to eat. That brings along with it the whole issue of eating nuts & seeds & what some are calling overt fatty fruits & veggies because when you are hungry your body needs more fuel and you could eat salads all day long and still not satisfy the real hunger. The reason for this is that humans have a need for a certain amount of calories in their diet to live optimally and if you are not getting enough calories then your health will begin to slip - your energy level changes, you feel tired a lot, you loose too much weight, you get dizzy etc etc...so you automatically give yourself more to eat. We've been so conditioned to think that fruit must be eaten in small quantities that we gravitate toward the nuts/seeds/avocados/olives etc etc... Then you tend to go through the issues that come with overt fats (this or any of the other stages can take years) your skin isn't as clear as you'd like, you have a discharge (candida), you have gas all the time, you bloat etc etc - most of you have heard this already. The next phase is re-thinking your relationship with raw foods, often you ponder if you made the right choice, you wonder if this is working or if you are doing something wrong. Some add fish or meat or goats milk and some decide to live in the gourmet mainstream raw foodie world and some, form a new relationship with ripe, raw, fresh fruit as they learn and then experience that sweet fruits are not only pleasant and fun to eat, they also give you the amount of fuel (calories) that you need to sustain life. Often your main diet at this point is fruit with tender greens & celery - which isn't limiting, just it's a very different way of thinking. At this stage for variety, entertainment and social fun you may choose to have other vegies occasionally, like making zucchini-spaghetti noodles and a blended tomato sauce for a 'Raw Luck' (notice we don't use pots anymore)... when you get to this stage you've about mastered the raw thing, you know how to hear your body's cues, you aren't studing and reading everything you can get your hands on, you are trusting your judgement about your diet and you notice the difference between what you want and what you need. Your choices are more in line with your philosophy for living which may include being kind, not harming other living beings, be-ing honest, communicating well and living simply, etc. Enjoy your process as well as your day. Simply, Lesa http://LesaNeSmith.vpweb.com rawfood , The Grrl <dudeinski wrote: > > To comment on that list that I put out there, I was hoping someone on here that has been a long time raw foodist could give their thoughts. For that particular list found on rawschool.com, that is the person I learned from and learned a lot of great things. I know the thought is out there " If this is all I can eat, what's the POINT? " > > Basically, if I have a really hard time digesting something, it makes me feel sluggish or I have a lot of pain associated with eating it, I know it's not right for me. > > In the end, it really is about listening to what you really want. I haven't been doing this as long as some others have (nor have I studied and am not a nutritionist), I just put it out there because it at least gives me something to go by. > > Tanya > > > > Caroline <carojo95 > rawfood > Friday, April 27, 2007 4:51:28 AM > [Raw Food] toxins? > > I was wondering if anyone had some reliable info on what foods - if any - > tend to be toxic if eaten raw. I've read that kidney beans are somewhat > toxic unless cooked. Also I think Andrew Weil wrote in one of his books > that mushrooms were. I love raw mushrooms and so does my 11yo daughter, but > I'm afraid to let her eat too many. Does anyone have definitive info on raw > 'shrooms? > > thanks!! > -Caroline > ~*~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~ *~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~ > Raw: http://www.rawtiffi n.com/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 I would not put a lot of stock in that " list " -- If you'll notice, it is packed full of ads for TC Fry's works. TC Fry is GREAT in many ways, he is an old Natural Hygiene teacher, and they have their OWN views and usually Natural Hygienists are in VERY POOR HEALTH over time even though they have some GREAT principals. It is DIFFERENT than just a raw foods diet, and so making Alisa Cohen and Elaine Love's recipes is JUST FINE and okay to do on a raw foods diet! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Very good explanation and exactly what I was taught. Just an add-on about T.C. Fry. He wasn't healthy when he died because he admittedly didn't live an optimal lifestyle. He knew it, but that doesn't mean he couldn't teach what he knew. Again, people have to do what works for them. What I still do is feel like I'm not doing something the " right " way. I beat myself up for possibly eating the wrong thing. That's what I hope other people avoid. Tanya Lesa <ljbn rawfood Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:17:17 AM [Raw Food] Re: toxins? Hi Grrl & all, Okay, I've been raw a while now - and lean toward the Natural Hygine style of living that I studied 30ish years ago, perhaps my comments will be helpful. This list that was posted is actually very good. If you read carefully and notice all the words in the comments, the author did not indicate that these were the only foods available or optimal for mankind. The author did, however, indicate which foods were more often useful for transitioning to a more optimal dietary choice or which foods were useful for 'entertainment' and variety in that more optimal choice. The author also in the first row's columns noted that fruit was definately optimal and that there are thousands of varieties that are available to humans. For example there are hundreds of varieties of mango that grow on the earth and that ripen at different times of the year. If you are used to only the green/red/yellowish mangos we often see in american grocery stores you are missing out on an adventure - just try the Champagne mangos that are available right now, yum! The transition process is relatively similar for most people choosing to adopt a more optimal natural lifestyle and raw diet. Often you first begin hearing or reading something, aim to research, begin to dabble a bit by trying out adding more fruits and veggies to their diet. Gradually you begin trying out more and more things, then you find out that you can make raw foods taste like, look like and resemble the foods you really don't want to give up yet - which is all great and all part of the process of learning and life, accept it and see where it leads. Now just a bit of friendly advice - try to use what you already have, keep it simple and don't go spending lots of money in any of these phases because you might change your mind down the road a bit. If you notice on many online boards long time raw foodies often post that they haven't used their dehydrators in ages - so unless you are starting a restaraunt or just like spending money, what is the point in buying a $400 one over a $60 one that does the same job - BUT you decide, this is about your life, your choices, your goals, your health, mental health, relationships etc. Take what you need and leave the rest. Remember to follow your intuition and what that means is to follow the things that aim you closer to happiness (not addictions - the definitions and differences come with time)in the long run. Okay back to the transition phases - so after the whole mimiking (sp?) cooked foods phase, comes the simplifying phase where you notice you no longer want the same stuff or the process takes too long or you're just tired of all the months you've spend looking for new ideas on the internet or in bookstores reading and buying cookbooks. You often begin to eat more simple salads and smoothies and then after a while you come to another stage where you wonder why you are blending up all this stuff when you could save yourself the trouble of washing all those containers by just peeling the (for example) bananas and eating them. Somewhere along in here, if you've ever had a weight problem or not you experience and define and learn about real hunger vs wanting something to eat. That brings along with it the whole issue of eating nuts & seeds & what some are calling overt fatty fruits & veggies because when you are hungry your body needs more fuel and you could eat salads all day long and still not satisfy the real hunger. The reason for this is that humans have a need for a certain amount of calories in their diet to live optimally and if you are not getting enough calories then your health will begin to slip - your energy level changes, you feel tired a lot, you loose too much weight, you get dizzy etc etc...so you automatically give yourself more to eat. We've been so conditioned to think that fruit must be eaten in small quantities that we gravitate toward the nuts/seeds/avocados /olives etc etc... Then you tend to go through the issues that come with overt fats (this or any of the other stages can take years) your skin isn't as clear as you'd like, you have a discharge (candida), you have gas all the time, you bloat etc etc - most of you have heard this already. The next phase is re-thinking your relationship with raw foods, often you ponder if you made the right choice, you wonder if this is working or if you are doing something wrong. Some add fish or meat or goats milk and some decide to live in the gourmet mainstream raw foodie world and some, form a new relationship with ripe, raw, fresh fruit as they learn and then experience that sweet fruits are not only pleasant and fun to eat, they also give you the amount of fuel (calories) that you need to sustain life. Often your main diet at this point is fruit with tender greens & celery - which isn't limiting, just it's a very different way of thinking. At this stage for variety, entertainment and social fun you may choose to have other vegies occasionally, like making zucchini-spaghetti noodles and a blended tomato sauce for a 'Raw Luck' (notice we don't use pots anymore)... when you get to this stage you've about mastered the raw thing, you know how to hear your body's cues, you aren't studing and reading everything you can get your hands on, you are trusting your judgement about your diet and you notice the difference between what you want and what you need. Your choices are more in line with your philosophy for living which may include being kind, not harming other living beings, be-ing honest, communicating well and living simply, etc. Enjoy your process as well as your day. Simply, Lesa http://LesaNeSmith. vpweb.com rawfood@ .com, The Grrl <dudeinski@. ..> wrote: > > To comment on that list that I put out there, I was hoping someone on here that has been a long time raw foodist could give their thoughts. For that particular list found on rawschool.com, that is the person I learned from and learned a lot of great things. I know the thought is out there " If this is all I can eat, what's the POINT? " > > Basically, if I have a really hard time digesting something, it makes me feel sluggish or I have a lot of pain associated with eating it, I know it's not right for me. > > In the end, it really is about listening to what you really want. I haven't been doing this as long as some others have (nor have I studied and am not a nutritionist) , I just put it out there because it at least gives me something to go by. > > Tanya > > > > Caroline <carojo95@.. .> > rawfood@ .com > Friday, April 27, 2007 4:51:28 AM > [Raw Food] toxins? > > I was wondering if anyone had some reliable info on what foods - if any - > tend to be toxic if eaten raw. I've read that kidney beans are somewhat > toxic unless cooked. Also I think Andrew Weil wrote in one of his books > that mushrooms were. I love raw mushrooms and so does my 11yo daughter, but > I'm afraid to let her eat too many. Does anyone have definitive info on raw > 'shrooms? > > thanks!! > -Caroline > ~*~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~ *~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~ > Raw: http://www.rawtiffi n.com/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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