Living lean: How we perceive our own bodies (WAS: How to gain weight?)

[Guest guest]

Hi Carla and all,

 

Look out into Nature.

 

Dolphins come in various shapes and sizes ... and there are NO " thick "

dolphins.

 

Whales come in various shapes and sizes ... and there are NO " thick "

whales.

 

Big cats (lions, tigers, etc.) come in various shapes and sizes ... and

there are NO " thick " big cats. If there were, they would be too slow to

catch any food, and they would die.

 

Elephants come in various shapes and sizes ... and there are NO " thick "

elephants. If there were, they would not last over the long, long treks from

one water hole to another, and they would die.

 

Horses (and including zebras) come in various shapes and sizes ... and

there are NO " thick " horses. If there were, they would be unable to run from

their predators, and they would be eaten.

 

Monkeys and apes come in various shapes and sizes ... and there are NO

" thick " monkeys or apes. If there were, they would not have the physical

capacity to forage in the trees for food, and they would die of starvation.

 

In every case, all this changes from the moment when we humans begin feeding

these animals ... then their bodies change to match ours, and so do their

symptoms.

 

Thin ... able to see the rib cage when an animal moves ... is normal

throughout Nature, with a few notable exceptions such as hibernatory

animals.

 

Check out your own body fat percentage ... you'll see what Bob means. And

use Nutridiary or FitDay to check out what you are actually eating in terms

of carbs/proteins/fats. You will surprise yourself ... really!

 

Shortly we will release our free learning program entitled " Nutritional

Self-Awareness " , including an audio program and an extensive (30+ pages)

handout on using Nutridiary, with screen shots and all. I'll let everyone

know when this program becomes available.

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Carla Alexandra Rose

Monday, May 21, 2007 11:02 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re: How to gain weight?

 

 

I don't like this implication that super skinny is normal for all raw

foodies. Please note, even those of us on a 100% raw diet will always be on

the " thick " if not pudgy side no matter how little or how much fat, etc we

eat. And for us, its normal.

 

Maybe you wernt trying to step on anyone's toes, but please remember we come

in all shapes and sizes - even not so skinny.

 

Carla

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[Guest guest]

I guess it depends on what our definition of " thick " is. I am by no means

overweight, but I will never be the super thin, " bony " type. Thats not

happening with my body type, genetics, etc.

 

For someone who has obsessed over weight and food for most of my live, its

pretty disheartening to read what you wrote below. I know its my problem

not yours, but I just wanted to let you know.

 

Carla

 

On 5/22/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Hi Carla and all,

>

> Look out into Nature.

>

> Dolphins come in various shapes and sizes ... and there are NO " thick "

> dolphins.

>

> Whales come in various shapes and sizes ... and there are NO " thick "

> whales.

>

> Big cats (lions, tigers, etc.) come in various shapes and sizes ... and

> there are NO " thick " big cats. If there were, they would be too slow to

> catch any food, and they would die.

>

> Elephants come in various shapes and sizes ... and there are NO " thick "

> elephants. If there were, they would not last over the long, long treks

> from

> one water hole to another, and they would die.

>

> Horses (and including zebras) come in various shapes and sizes ... and

> there are NO " thick " horses. If there were, they would be unable to run

> from

> their predators, and they would be eaten.

>

> Monkeys and apes come in various shapes and sizes ... and there are NO

> " thick " monkeys or apes. If there were, they would not have the physical

> capacity to forage in the trees for food, and they would die of

> starvation.

>

> In every case, all this changes from the moment when we humans begin

> feeding

> these animals ... then their bodies change to match ours, and so do their

> symptoms.

>

> Thin ... able to see the rib cage when an animal moves ... is normal

> throughout Nature, with a few notable exceptions such as hibernatory

> animals.

>

> Check out your own body fat percentage ... you'll see what Bob means. And

> use Nutridiary or FitDay to check out what you are actually eating in

> terms

> of carbs/proteins/fats. You will surprise yourself ... really!

>

> Shortly we will release our free learning program entitled " Nutritional

> Self-Awareness " , including an audio program and an extensive (30+ pages)

> handout on using Nutridiary, with screen shots and all. I'll let everyone

> know when this program becomes available.

>

> Best to all,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood <rawfood%40> [

> rawfood <rawfood%40>] On Behalf Of

> Carla Alexandra Rose

> Monday, May 21, 2007 11:02 PM

> rawfood <rawfood%40>

> Re: [Raw Food] Re: How to gain weight?

>

> I don't like this implication that super skinny is normal for all raw

> foodies. Please note, even those of us on a 100% raw diet will always be

> on

> the " thick " if not pudgy side no matter how little or how much fat, etc we

> eat. And for us, its normal.

>

> Maybe you wernt trying to step on anyone's toes, but please remember we

> come

> in all shapes and sizes - even not so skinny.

>

> Carla

> <

> http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=5520395/grpspId=1705015482/msgId

> =29402/stime=1179813704/nc1=4458832/nc2=4025370/nc3=3>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Carla,

Would you be willing to respond to my question ... do you know your body fat

%?? A little bit of information could go a LONG way here, toward your great

benefit.

 

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Carla Alexandra Rose

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 5:30 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Living lean: How we perceive our own bodies (WAS:

How to gain weight?)

 

 

I guess it depends on what our definition of " thick " is. I am by no means

overweight, but I will never be the super thin, " bony " type. Thats not

happening with my body type, genetics, etc.

 

For someone who has obsessed over weight and food for most of my live, its

pretty disheartening to read what you wrote below. I know its my problem

not yours, but I just wanted to let you know.

 

Carla

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I dont...and not sure how to measure.

Carla

 

On 5/22/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Hi Carla,

> Would you be willing to respond to my question ... do you know your body

> fat

> %?? A little bit of information could go a LONG way here, toward your

> great

> benefit.

>

> Elchanan

> _____

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Oh, a lot of gyms will do it for you for free, if they think you might be

interested in joining. Also, electronics stores sell these digital scales

that measure body fat % as well as weight. You could ask a sales person to

show you how it works, try it out. Use bare feet to get the electrical

impedance as accurate as possible.

 

Others may have additional ideas. And over in Path of Health we have some

formula for this ... I'll look in the archive over there.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Carla Alexandra Rose

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:54 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Living lean: How we perceive our own bodies (WAS:

How to gain weight?)

 

 

 

I dont...and not sure how to measure.

Carla

 

On 5/22/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@pathofheal

<Elchanan%40pathofhealth.org> th.org> wrote:

>

> Hi Carla,

> Would you be willing to respond to my question ... do you know your body

> fat

> %?? A little bit of information could go a LONG way here, toward your

> great

> benefit.

>

> Elchanan

> _____

>

>

 

 

[Guest guest]

Question:

 

How does one determine how much body fat one has. I'm sure I must be off the

charts. lol

 

 

Regards,

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:15:23 PM

RE: [Raw Food] Living lean: How we perceive our own bodies (WAS: How to

gain weight?)

 

 

Hi Carla,

Would you be willing to respond to my question ... do you know your body fat

%?? A little bit of information could go a LONG way here, toward your great

benefit.

 

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Carla Alexandra Rose

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 5:30 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Living lean: How we perceive our own bodies (WAS:

How to gain weight?)

 

 

I guess it depends on what our definition of " thick " is. I am by no means

overweight, but I will never be the super thin, " bony " type. Thats not

happening with my body type, genetics, etc.

 

For someone who has obsessed over weight and food for most of my live, its

pretty disheartening to read what you wrote below. I know its my problem

not yours, but I just wanted to let you know.

 

Carla

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

From what I heard, both of those methods are highly inaccurate with a huge

margin of error. The hydrostatic is much more accurate but cost money.

 

Carla

 

On 5/22/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Oh, a lot of gyms will do it for you for free, if they think you might

> be

> interested in joining. Also, electronics stores sell these digital scales

> that measure body fat % as well as weight. You could ask a sales person to

> show you how it works, try it out. Use bare feet to get the electrical

> impedance as accurate as possible.

>

> Others may have additional ideas. And over in Path of Health we have some

> formula for this ... I'll look in the archive over there.

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood <rawfood%40> [

> rawfood <rawfood%40>] On Behalf Of

> Carla Alexandra Rose

> Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:54 PM

> rawfood <rawfood%40>

> Re: [Raw Food] Living lean: How we perceive our own bodies (WAS:

> How to gain weight?)

>

> I dont...and not sure how to measure.

> Carla

>

> On 5/22/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@pathofheal

> <Elchanan% <Elchanan%25>40pathofhealth.org> th.org> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Carla,

> > Would you be willing to respond to my question ... do you know your body

> > fat

> > %?? A little bit of information could go a LONG way here, toward your

> > great

> > benefit.

> >

> > Elchanan

> > _____

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Best way is by direct measurement, as discussed briefly yesterday. There are

scales one can buy, many gyms have equipment for this purpose, etc.

 

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 11:14 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Living lean: How we perceive our own bodies (WAS:

How to gain weight?)

 

 

 

Question:

 

How does one determine how much body fat one has. I'm sure I must be off the

charts. lol

 

Regards,

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan@PathOfHeal <Elchanan%40PathOfHealth.org>

th.org>

rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:15:23 PM

RE: [Raw Food] Living lean: How we perceive our own bodies (WAS:

How to gain weight?)

 

Hi Carla,

Would you be willing to respond to my question ... do you know your body fat

%?? A little bit of information could go a LONG way here, toward your great

benefit.

 

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com

[rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com] On

Behalf Of

Carla Alexandra Rose

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 5:30 PM

rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com

Re: [Raw Food] Living lean: How we perceive our own bodies (WAS:

How to gain weight?)

 

I guess it depends on what our definition of " thick " is. I am by no means

overweight, but I will never be the super thin, " bony " type. Thats not

happening with my body type, genetics, etc.

 

For someone who has obsessed over weight and food for most of my live, its

pretty disheartening to read what you wrote below. I know its my problem

not yours, but I just wanted to let you know.

 

Carla