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Yes, thanks Terry, this is exactly my intent. For example, if you try a

little from what Doug Graham teaches and a little from what Gabriel Cousins

teaches and a few recipes from Alyssa Cohen all mixed together, you may

enjoy some nice-tasting meals, but you will not become very healthy very

quickly. The underlying beliefs and knowledge bases upon which these various

people rely are simply too different.

 

And what I see commonly is people trying this for a week or two, then that

for a few weeks ... and NEVER actually staying with anything long enough to

learn it and to do what is actually being taught. Regardless of what program

you choose to follow at any given time, if you want to achieve the results

that a given teacher achieves, then you pretty much have to do as that

teacher does.

 

You cannot learn 811 in a week, or simply from reading Doug's book. You

cannot learn Gabriel's or Alyssa's or anyone else's program that way,

either.

 

Until you approach things from a place of genuine curiosity and wide-eyed

wonderment, until you COMMIT to learn one thing really well, you will not

likely succeed.

 

All this has nothing to do with anything I may teach, in particular. It has

to do with each of us creating success in our own life ... or not.

 

The kind of sharing that goes in a group such as this is wonderful, in my

opinion. And at the same time, I believe it's important to comprehend the

limitations on what one can likely ever learn in such a haphazard milieu. So

it depends on each person's goals. If your goal is " to share " and " don't

tell me what to do " , then you shall continue to produce in your life results

generally similar to the results you are presently producing.

 

But I suspect not many come here wishing to continue to produce in their

lives what they are presently producing. So perhaps a VERY different

approach to learning is in order, then. Just a thought...

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Terry Bakhtiari

Friday, May 25, 2007 5:51 AM

rawfood

RE: [Raw Food] ONE TEACHER???

 

 

I think what was said is being misunderstood. This is a good place for

eveyone to share, no one has said otherwise. But I think in the end you have

to find one way, that works for you, and follow that. For instance some

people like the 811 way others prefer other 'teachings'. In the end you need

to pick one way that works for you otherwise you are going to be going in

many different directions with conflicting information and accomplsihing

nothing. That is what I took from what was posted.

 

 

 

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I also agree with Terry's post.

I also want to say that I appreciate all of Elchanan's post on all of

the topics.

 

For those that do not, it is easy enough to see that it is his posts

and just don't read it if it bothers you.

 

Belinda

 

 

 

 

rawfood , Sarah Formhals <mrsfrmhls wrote:

>

> That's very well explained Terry. That's exactly how

> I understood the post. It seems that it was taken out

> of context. We do need to learn from the experience

> of others, but we have to find the one way that works

> fo us, and follow it. Nicely put!!!

>

> ~Sarah

>

> --- Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote:

>

> > I think what was said is being misunderstood. This

> > is a good place for eveyone to share, no one has

> > said otherwise. But I think in the end you have to

> > find one way, that works for you, and follow that.

> > For instance some people like the 811 way others

> > prefer other 'teachings'. In the end you need to

> > pick one way that works for you otherwise you are

> > going to be going in many different directions with

> > conflicting information and accomplsihing nothing.

> > That is what I took from what was posted.

>

>

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I agree. I have found that there is a fundamental exception to every great

teacher's teachings.

 

Dr. Ann Wigmore didn't use herbs much.

Dr. Furhman doesn't think organic makes a difference.

Dr. Barnard doesn't get raw, only vegan.

Other doctors are brilliant but don't believe in mucoid plaque.

Some would say the 811 diet is omega-deficient.

Royal Rife didn't talk much on diet, but healed many diseases.

Gershin (sp?) uses some animal products (but recently quit!)

Hulda Clark ate meat.

Some would say other raw diets are too fatty.

A lot of raw food is poorly combined.

And so forth.

 

Take the good and leave the bad with most teachings, and follow many. LOTS

have been successful with beating diseases. There is not just one path. Don't

just follow one guru is one of the wisest things I pass on to my students. So I

would say just the opposite.

 

 

 

 

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This is just a difference in perspective..

like the difference between concave and convex when its still a bowl.

 

until a person picks ONE path they can not be said to be travelling to

ONE destination and becoming expert in that ONE.

 

Yes thers many ways to do the same thing..but when you look at the

details you see there are differences. When you say take them all in

what youre saying is those differences arent very important. Because

there are flat out contradictions and you cant do them all.

 

if you want to learn it all and do your own thing, thats great. But

you probably wont reach a level of expertise that you could reach if

you stuck to one. In other words...you could be a mutt or you could be

a pure breed. Both are still dogs. But dont we admire the pure

breeds more? Arent theymore refined and unique? More......special?

mutts are friendlier tho'..........easier...not fussy.

maybe thats the issue....its just easier to pick and choose than stay

within limits. Im certain essenes stayed within limits..

 

On 5/25/07, School Of Rawk <schoolofrawk wrote:

> I agree. I have found that there is a fundamental exception to every great

> teacher's teachings.

>

> Dr. Ann Wigmore didn't use herbs much.

> Dr. Furhman doesn't think organic makes a difference.

> Dr. Barnard doesn't get raw, only vegan.

> Other doctors are brilliant but don't believe in mucoid plaque.

> Some would say the 811 diet is omega-deficient.

> Royal Rife didn't talk much on diet, but healed many diseases.

> Gershin (sp?) uses some animal products (but recently quit!)

> Hulda Clark ate meat.

> Some would say other raw diets are too fatty.

> A lot of raw food is poorly combined.

> And so forth.

>

> Take the good and leave the bad with most teachings, and follow many. LOTS

> have been successful with beating diseases. There is not just one path.

> Don't just follow one guru is one of the wisest things I pass on to my

> students. So I would say just the opposite.

>

>

>

>

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makes very good sense. I don't get offended either I just move on. I don't feel

the need to insult, attack or overly question. I just take it or leave it and do

my own thing

 

jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: I agree with you also

Sherrard.

 

However, I kind of agree on one point. I will try to explain.

 

I am so new at this. I'm trying to take it " all " in and process all the

information so that I can make " MY OWN " conclusions.

 

Here is the problem I am facing. Perhaps problem is not the right word

BUT........

 

One person says For example: That is good for you,

Other person says: That is not good for you,

Another person says: That is good for you IF you, blah,blah,blah....

The next person says: That is NOT good for you UNLESS you, blah,blah, blah..

 

Let's face it, If you get 5 doctors in a room you will find perhaps 5 different

answers, perceptions, etc....

5 different lawyers will have 5 different approaches to things, etc....

 

I could go on. LOL I look at this group as a group of people, virtual friends,

tossing out ideas, some of us seem to more.

I do not look at it like a " cult " where there is a " leader " a " guru " (if you

will).

 

This is perhaps I am not offended when someone says or suggests something I

might find wacky. Someone else out there might just be looking for that answer,

while it might not be my answer.

 

 

I am speaking in All generalities because it seems to happen with just about any

subject there is.

 

Now............ I still find I am enjoying and taking it all in.

 

It just gives me more to sift through. It compells me to open my mind wider and

to do even more research for myself and

at the end of the day doing what I feel will work for me, based on all on it. I

look at it like cooking. I used to be an avid cook. I love to cook. So for me

it's like searching for the perfect recipie. I take a little from here and a

little from here and a lot from over there. I taste and if it is good I'm happy,

If it is not I make it again another daywith a different combination. Tasting as

I go. Life is a " work in progress " a journey. There is no perfection in any of

us or anything.

 

These are all analogies just to " try " to make my point. I don't get upset, or

offended, or put off because I read a recipie I don't agree with or I didn't

like the ingredients. I just throw it all to the fact that that won't work in MY

dish. LOL

 

I don't know if this makes any sense to anyone, It does to me....lol

 

 

Regards,

 

Jeannie

 

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

sarah shaw <hppymummy

rawfood

Friday, May 25, 2007 6:45:42 AM

RE: [Raw Food] ONE TEACHER???

 

I agree with this 100% we learn from each others experiences, what each

other reads. This is a helpful community of people who share with each

other not one sole person telling everyone this is what to do and how to do

it!

 

>guinevieve

>rawfood

>rawfood

>[Raw Food] ONE TEACHER???

>Fri, 25 May 2007 07:32:35 EDT

>

>I am amazed that someone would suggest that we stop listening to

> " people " and

>rely on ONE teacher...that teacher who says he would be grateful if you

>offered to pay him.

>

> I have many teachers including myself and the people on this list and do

>not choose to follow ONE person who believes he has the TRUTH. Who is this

>person and what are his credentials that we should listen to him as THE

>TEACHER?

>

>Sherrard

>

>

>

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it came across nasty to me. But I guess I still see it as agreeing or

disagreeing nothing more serious. Anyone is allowed to post and say I would do

this or that and then I feel it is us to us an individuals to make a choose from

all the information given. I do not see anyone else being asked to post all

their personal info and training on here so it seems unfair to me. I guess I do

not see it as anything serious and he is giving his opinions and I don't feel he

'owes' anyone any information. Why does he have to 'address' anyone demanding

his credentials? Seems like he has been singled out to me and that is why I felt

compelled to respond.

 

deborah164951 <thisgeneration wrote: Hi

 

I think if someone had said my posts were 'nastiness', I'd be

crying...but I think Sherrard's probably made of tougher stuff!

 

I feel Sherrard (only know we know her (his?) name - original post

Guinevieve) has raised some valid issues with her posts. BTW, these

issues are not anything to do with 'whether you agree with someone or

not'; that's a bit of a red herring that a lot have seized on. There

were other more serious issues raised.

 

Although we did understand that these were to be addressed, they have

not been to date, and I can understand her frustration.

 

In the interests of fairness,

 

Love

 

Debbie Took, Reading, UK

 

rawfood , Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote:

It seems to me you have a problem with this person since this is not

the first time you are on the attack. It goes back to what many have

already said, if you don't like someone, don't read their posts, or if

yo disagree delete it but the nastiness is something we can all do

without.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Anna,

 

I definitely agree there are people who have mastered something and we all

stand to learn from it. And it is a free choice to choose that 'one' so I am not

sure why this has become such an issue

 

Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote:

jeannie..

your thoughts make perfect western sense 8-)

 

this is a classic example of the saying " jack of all trades master of none " .

yes we want as much info as possible so we readand learn from many

here. But there are people that have perfected this. Finding them

would eliminate the need to have many confusing sources.

 

it is not an accident that we in the west admire eastern philosophy

and that those teachers are known as masters. A master needs no

assistants nor partners. They are by definition at the peak of a

subject.whether its a diet or religion.

 

the trick is finding one.

keep in mind that democratic societies dont like this ONE leader

thing...they tend to cause revolutions. So the system itself throws

out lots of conflicting info so that you DONT trust and DONT stick

with just one person. But this doesnt mean you would not be happy if

you found one.

 

peace

anna

 

On 5/25/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

> I agree with you also Sherrard.

>

> However, I kind of agree on one point. I will try to explain.

>

> I am so new at this. I'm trying to take it " all " in and process all the

> information so that I can make " MY OWN " conclusions.

>

> Here is the problem I am facing. Perhaps problem is not the right word

> BUT........

>

> One person says For example: That is good for you,

> Other person says: That is not good for you,

> Another person says: That is good for you IF you,

> blah,blah,blah....

> The next person says: That is NOT good for you UNLESS you,

> blah,blah, blah..

>

> Let's face it, If you get 5 doctors in a room you will find perhaps 5

> different answers, perceptions, etc....

> 5 different lawyers will have 5 different approaches to things, etc....

>

> I could go on. LOL I look at this group as a group of people, virtual

> friends, tossing out ideas, some of us seem to more.

> I do not look at it like a " cult " where there is a " leader " a " guru " (if you

> will).

>

> This is perhaps I am not offended when someone says or suggests something I

> might find wacky. Someone else out there might just be looking for that

> answer, while it might not be my answer.

>

>

> I am speaking in All generalities because it seems to happen with just about

> any subject there is.

>

> Now............ I still find I am enjoying and taking it all in.

>

> It just gives me more to sift through. It compells me to open my mind wider

> and to do even more research for myself and

> at the end of the day doing what I feel will work for me, based on all on

> it. I look at it like cooking. I used to be an avid cook. I love to cook.

> So for me it's like searching for the perfect recipie. I take a little from

> here and a little from here and a lot from over there. I taste and if it is

> good I'm happy, If it is not I make it again another daywith a different

> combination. Tasting as I go. Life is a " work in progress " a journey. There

> is no perfection in any of us or anything.

>

> These are all analogies just to " try " to make my point. I don't get upset,

> or offended, or put off because I read a recipie I don't agree with or I

> didn't like the ingredients. I just throw it all to the fact that that won't

> work in MY dish. LOL

>

> I don't know if this makes any sense to anyone, It does to me....lol

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Jeannie

>

>

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

>

>

>

>

> sarah shaw <hppymummy

> rawfood

> Friday, May 25, 2007 6:45:42 AM

> RE: [Raw Food] ONE TEACHER???

>

>

> I agree with this 100% we learn from each others experiences, what each

> other reads. This is a helpful community of people who share with each

> other not one sole person telling everyone this is what to do and how to do

> it!

>

>

> >guinevieve

> >rawfood

> >rawfood

> >[Raw Food] ONE TEACHER???

> >Fri, 25 May 2007 07:32:35 EDT

> >

> >I am amazed that someone would suggest that we stop listening to

> > " people " and

> >rely on ONE teacher...that teacher who says he would be grateful if you

> >offered to pay him.

> >

> > I have many teachers including myself and the people on this list and do

> >not choose to follow ONE person who believes he has the TRUTH. Who is this

> >person and what are his credentials that we should listen to him as THE

> >TEACHER?

> >

> >Sherrard

> >

> >

> >

> >************************************** See what's free at

> >http://www.aol.com.

> >

> >

> >

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very good example! My husband goes to the gym and there are several trainers

there, each with a different program, all may work, but he had to pick only one

trainer to work with and follow him.

 

Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: Consider the circumstance

of any professional athlete. A professional

athlete has ONE trainer. The athlete may choose a different trainer at some

future time, but at any point in time, ONE.

 

Why?

 

Because you cannot do 2 different programs concurrently and achieve

successful results.

 

I have not written anything about " TRUTH " , I have not suggested that I

should be that teacher. I have only suggested choosing one. Debbie Took has

offered at least one thoughtful alternative.

 

I encourage you to look within at the anger underlying this response,

Sherrard. What inside you is so triggered by such seemingly simple and

straightforward advice?

 

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

guinevieve

Friday, May 25, 2007 4:33 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] ONE TEACHER???

 

I am amazed that someone would suggest that we stop listening to " people " and

 

rely on ONE teacher...that teacher who says he would be grateful if you

offered to pay him.

 

I have many teachers including myself and the people on this list and do

not choose to follow ONE person who believes he has the TRUTH. Who is this

person and what are his credentials that we should listen to him as THE

TEACHER?

 

Sherrard

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i dont either actually...kinda odd.

 

peace

anna

 

On 5/25/07, Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote:

> Anna,

>

> I definitely agree there are people who have mastered something and we all

> stand to learn from it. And it is a free choice to choose that 'one' so I am

> not sure why this has become such an issue

>

> Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote:

> jeannie..

> your thoughts make perfect western sense 8-)

>

> this is a classic example of the saying " jack of all trades master of none " .

> yes we want as much info as possible so we readand learn from many

> here. But there are people that have perfected this. Finding them

> would eliminate the need to have many confusing sources.

>

> it is not an accident that we in the west admire eastern philosophy

> and that those teachers are known as masters. A master needs no

> assistants nor partners. They are by definition at the peak of a

> subject.whether its a diet or religion.

>

> the trick is finding one.

> keep in mind that democratic societies dont like this ONE leader

> thing...they tend to cause revolutions. So the system itself throws

> out lots of conflicting info so that you DONT trust and DONT stick

> with just one person. But this doesnt mean you would not be happy if

> you found one.

>

> peace

> anna

>

> On 5/25/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

> > I agree with you also Sherrard.

> >

> > However, I kind of agree on one point. I will try to explain.

> >

> > I am so new at this. I'm trying to take it " all " in and process all the

> > information so that I can make " MY OWN " conclusions.

> >

> > Here is the problem I am facing. Perhaps problem is not the right word

> > BUT........

> >

> > One person says For example: That is good for you,

> > Other person says: That is not good for you,

> > Another person says: That is good for you IF you,

> > blah,blah,blah....

> > The next person says: That is NOT good for you UNLESS you,

> > blah,blah, blah..

> >

> > Let's face it, If you get 5 doctors in a room you will find perhaps 5

> > different answers, perceptions, etc....

> > 5 different lawyers will have 5 different approaches to things, etc....

> >

> > I could go on. LOL I look at this group as a group of people, virtual

> > friends, tossing out ideas, some of us seem to more.

> > I do not look at it like a " cult " where there is a " leader " a " guru " (if

> you

> > will).

> >

> > This is perhaps I am not offended when someone says or suggests something

> I

> > might find wacky. Someone else out there might just be looking for that

> > answer, while it might not be my answer.

> >

> >

> > I am speaking in All generalities because it seems to happen with just

> about

> > any subject there is.

> >

> > Now............ I still find I am enjoying and taking it all in.

> >

> > It just gives me more to sift through. It compells me to open my mind

> wider

> > and to do even more research for myself and

> > at the end of the day doing what I feel will work for me, based on all on

> > it. I look at it like cooking. I used to be an avid cook. I love to cook.

> > So for me it's like searching for the perfect recipie. I take a little

> from

> > here and a little from here and a lot from over there. I taste and if it

> is

> > good I'm happy, If it is not I make it again another daywith a different

> > combination. Tasting as I go. Life is a " work in progress " a journey.

> There

> > is no perfection in any of us or anything.

> >

> > These are all analogies just to " try " to make my point. I don't get upset,

> > or offended, or put off because I read a recipie I don't agree with or I

> > didn't like the ingredients. I just throw it all to the fact that that

> won't

> > work in MY dish. LOL

> >

> > I don't know if this makes any sense to anyone, It does to me....lol

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Jeannie

> >

> >

> >

> > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no

> one.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sarah shaw <hppymummy

> > rawfood

> > Friday, May 25, 2007 6:45:42 AM

> > RE: [Raw Food] ONE TEACHER???

> >

> >

> > I agree with this 100% we learn from each others experiences, what each

> > other reads. This is a helpful community of people who share with each

> > other not one sole person telling everyone this is what to do and how to

> do

> > it!

> >

> >

> > >guinevieve

> > >rawfood

> > >rawfood

> > >[Raw Food] ONE TEACHER???

> > >Fri, 25 May 2007 07:32:35 EDT

> > >

> > >I am amazed that someone would suggest that we stop listening to

> > > " people " and

> > >rely on ONE teacher...that teacher who says he would be grateful if you

> > >offered to pay him.

> > >

> > > I have many teachers including myself and the people on this list and do

> > >not choose to follow ONE person who believes he has the TRUTH. Who is

> this

> > >person and what are his credentials that we should listen to him as THE

> > >TEACHER?

> > >

> > >Sherrard

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >************************************** See what's free at

> > >http://www.aol.com.

> > >

> > >

> > >

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You completely misread (or didn't read) and/or didn't understand his

original post.

He obviously meant that in general, the average person you meet at

work etc doesn't know the first thing about what's healthy to eat and

what's not. Just today a co-worker told me he thought coffee had no

ill-effects whatsoever, that it was " good " for you because it gives

you a " boost " . That is the state of nutritional knowledge the average

person has, and that is clearly what Elchanan was referring to in

regards to taking advice from " people " .

He also clearly stated that pretty much any particular knowledgeable

practitioner in nutrition can help you achieve health and weight loss,

and that it is easiest to stick to ONE at any particular time so as to

not become confused with possibly conflicting information, such as

combining/not combining food, for example.

Lastly, I challenge you to find ANY post of his in this forum where he

asks for money. As for working with people more closely in regards to

their specific health needs, well, that takes time and energy, and

should be a service a person is happy to pay for if they are unable or

unwilling to pick up a book and read it and learn it themselves.

Please, at least TRY to put some effort into understanding what you

read before you take the easy way out and blindly attack that which

you clearly do not understand.

 

Cheers

 

Joe

 

 

rawfood , guinevieve wrote:

>

> I am amazed that someone would suggest that we stop listening to

" people " and

> rely on ONE teacher...that teacher who says he would be grateful if

you

> offered to pay him.

>

> I have many teachers including myself and the people on this list

and do

> not choose to follow ONE person who believes he has the TRUTH. Who

is this

> person and what are his credentials that we should listen to him as

THE TEACHER?

>

> Sherrard

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

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I too took the " people " thing to mean people in general.

Which people in general often have food related health issues of

their own and the advice they give is just advice they have heard or

read. Not necassarily first hand knowledge.

 

Kind of like taking financial advise from people that are broke.

 

Belinda

 

 

 

rawfood , " Joe Postma " <joepostma wrote:

>

> You completely misread (or didn't read) and/or didn't understand his

> original post.

> He obviously meant that in general, the average person you meet at

> work etc doesn't know the first thing about what's healthy to eat

and

> what's not. Just today a co-worker told me he thought coffee had no

> ill-effects whatsoever, that it was " good " for you because it gives

> you a " boost " . That is the state of nutritional knowledge the

average

> person has, and that is clearly what Elchanan was referring to in

> regards to taking advice from " people " .

> He also clearly stated that pretty much any particular knowledgeable

> practitioner in nutrition can help you achieve health and weight

loss,

> and that it is easiest to stick to ONE at any particular time so as

to

> not become confused with possibly conflicting information, such as

> combining/not combining food, for example.

> Lastly, I challenge you to find ANY post of his in this forum where

he

> asks for money. As for working with people more closely in regards

to

> their specific health needs, well, that takes time and energy, and

> should be a service a person is happy to pay for if they are unable

or

> unwilling to pick up a book and read it and learn it themselves.

> Please, at least TRY to put some effort into understanding what you

> read before you take the easy way out and blindly attack that which

> you clearly do not understand.

>

> Cheers

>

> Joe

>

>

> rawfood , guinevieve@ wrote:

> >

> > I am amazed that someone would suggest that we stop listening to

> " people " and

> > rely on ONE teacher...that teacher who says he would be grateful

if

> you

> > offered to pay him.

> >

> > I have many teachers including myself and the people on this

list

> and do

> > not choose to follow ONE person who believes he has the TRUTH.

Who

> is this

> > person and what are his credentials that we should listen to him

as

> THE TEACHER?

> >

> > Sherrard

> >

> >

> >

> > ************************************** See what's free at

> http://www.aol.com.

> >

> >

> >

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Agreed!! :-)

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Anna Bishop <mowthpeece

rawfood

Friday, May 25, 2007 9:17:50 AM

Re: [Raw Food] ONE TEACHER???

 

 

jeannie..

your thoughts make perfect western sense 8-)

 

this is a classic example of the saying " jack of all trades master of none " .

yes we want as much info as possible so we readand learn from many

here. But there are people that have perfected this. Finding them

would eliminate the need to have many confusing sources.

 

it is not an accident that we in the west admire eastern philosophy

and that those teachers are known as masters. A master needs no

assistants nor partners. They are by definition at the peak of a

subject.whether its a diet or religion.

 

the trick is finding one.

keep in mind that democratic societies dont like this ONE leader

thing...they tend to cause revolutions. So the system itself throws

out lots of conflicting info so that you DONT trust and DONT stick

with just one person. But this doesnt mean you would not be happy if

you found one.

 

peace

anna

 

On 5/25/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

> I agree with you also Sherrard.

>

> However, I kind of agree on one point. I will try to explain.

>

> I am so new at this. I'm trying to take it " all " in and process all the

> information so that I can make " MY OWN " conclusions.

>

> Here is the problem I am facing. Perhaps problem is not the right word

> BUT........

>

> One person says For example: That is good for you,

> Other person says: That is not good for you,

> Another person says: That is good for you IF you,

> blah,blah,blah....

> The next person says: That is NOT good for you UNLESS you,

> blah,blah, blah..

>

> Let's face it, If you get 5 doctors in a room you will find perhaps 5

> different answers, perceptions, etc....

> 5 different lawyers will have 5 different approaches to things, etc....

>

> I could go on. LOL I look at this group as a group of people, virtual

> friends, tossing out ideas, some of us seem to more.

> I do not look at it like a " cult " where there is a " leader " a " guru " (if you

> will).

>

> This is perhaps I am not offended when someone says or suggests something I

> might find wacky. Someone else out there might just be looking for that

> answer, while it might not be my answer.

>

>

> I am speaking in All generalities because it seems to happen with just about

> any subject there is.

>

> Now............ I still find I am enjoying and taking it all in.

>

> It just gives me more to sift through. It compells me to open my mind wider

> and to do even more research for myself and

> at the end of the day doing what I feel will work for me, based on all on

> it. I look at it like cooking. I used to be an avid cook. I love to cook.

> So for me it's like searching for the perfect recipie. I take a little from

> here and a little from here and a lot from over there. I taste and if it is

> good I'm happy, If it is not I make it again another daywith a different

> combination. Tasting as I go. Life is a " work in progress " a journey. There

> is no perfection in any of us or anything.

>

> These are all analogies just to " try " to make my point. I don't get upset,

> or offended, or put off because I read a recipie I don't agree with or I

> didn't like the ingredients. I just throw it all to the fact that that won't

> work in MY dish. LOL

>

> I don't know if this makes any sense to anyone, It does to me....lol

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Jeannie

>

>

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

>

>

>

>

> sarah shaw <hppymummy

> rawfood

> Friday, May 25, 2007 6:45:42 AM

> RE: [Raw Food] ONE TEACHER???

>

>

> I agree with this 100% we learn from each others experiences, what each

> other reads. This is a helpful community of people who share with each

> other not one sole person telling everyone this is what to do and how to do

> it!

>

>

> >guinevieve

> >rawfood

> >rawfood

> >[Raw Food] ONE TEACHER???

> >Fri, 25 May 2007 07:32:35 EDT

> >

> >I am amazed that someone would suggest that we stop listening to

> > " people " and

> >rely on ONE teacher...that teacher who says he would be grateful if you

> >offered to pay him.

> >

> > I have many teachers including myself and the people on this list and do

> >not choose to follow ONE person who believes he has the TRUTH. Who is this

> >person and what are his credentials that we should listen to him as THE

> >TEACHER?

> >

> >Sherrard

> >

> >

> >

> >************************************** See what's free at

> >http://www.aol.com.

> >

> >

> >

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