Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 I recently spoke to a dietician about my raw food tendencies. No surprise, she was skeptical. Anyway, she brought to my attention to this book called " Health Food Junkies " about what the authors, Steven Bratman and David Knight, call 'orthorexia nervosa': the obsession with health food. One of the authors says he used to have it, what he calls this eating disorder. He used to be on raw foods and other health diets. Anyway, has anyone here read this book? I'm getting my library to find me a copy. I'm curious what he says. If you've read it, what did you think? Julian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 It is interesting that a healthy lifestyle is considered a disorder. Unless we are behaving according to mainstream norms, we are considered to be health freaks and now to have a disorder. I'm used to being called a health freak (among other things LOL!!!) because my daughter and I eat healthy foods, get adjusted, use essential oils for health and illness and don't vaccinate. I haven't read this book and probably won't (I don't have time to add another book to the list of books I want to read right now) but will continue to be as healthy as I possibly can. Have a wonderful weekend everyone!! Hugs Caroline rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Julian Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:21 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies I recently spoke to a dietician about my raw food tendencies. No surprise, she was skeptical. Anyway, she brought to my attention to this book called " Health Food Junkies " about what the authors, Steven Bratman and David Knight, call 'orthorexia nervosa': the obsession with health food. One of the authors says he used to have it, what he calls this eating disorder. He used to be on raw foods and other health diets. Anyway, has anyone here read this book? I'm getting my library to find me a copy. I'm curious what he says. If you've read it, what did you think? Julian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 i wont read it. But there are people that get obessesed with their diets. Just another form of OCD. peace anna On 5/26/07, Caroline G Gomes <cggomes wrote: > It is interesting that a healthy lifestyle is considered a disorder. Unless > we are behaving according to mainstream norms, we are considered to be > health freaks and now to have a disorder. I'm used to being called a health > freak (among other things LOL!!!) because my daughter and I eat healthy > foods, get adjusted, use essential oils for health and illness and don't > vaccinate. I haven't read this book and probably won't (I don't have time > to add another book to the list of books I want to read right now) but will > continue to be as healthy as I possibly can. > > Have a wonderful weekend everyone!! > > Hugs > > Caroline > > > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Julian > Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:21 PM > rawfood > [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > I recently spoke to a dietician about my raw food tendencies. No surprise, > she was skeptical. > Anyway, she brought to my attention to this book called " Health Food > Junkies " about what the authors, Steven Bratman and David Knight, call > 'orthorexia nervosa': the obsession with health food. One of the authors > says he used to have it, what he calls this eating disorder. He used to be > on raw foods and other health diets. Anyway, has anyone here read this book? > I'm getting my library to find me a copy. I'm curious what he says. If > you've read it, what did you think? > > Julian > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 As a food addict. compulsive overeater, I'd much rather choose raw than junk sad. The side effects are so much healthier. :-) I too want to become as healthy as possible. I understand there will always be people trying to convince me or others why what we are doing is wrong and why. All I know is this, for me, is not a diet, it is my lifestyle of choice. The fact that someone writes a book is not going to sway me back to my old " unhealthy " habits. I am adding new healthy habits to my life. I am choosing to be healthy. Others are free to not agree with my lifestyle and are free to find what works for them. I love America. Regards, Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Anna Bishop <mowthpeece rawfood Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:00:54 PM Re: [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies i wont read it. But there are people that get obessesed with their diets. Just another form of OCD. peace anna On 5/26/07, Caroline G Gomes <cggomes wrote: > It is interesting that a healthy lifestyle is considered a disorder. Unless > we are behaving according to mainstream norms, we are considered to be > health freaks and now to have a disorder. I'm used to being called a health > freak (among other things LOL!!!) because my daughter and I eat healthy > foods, get adjusted, use essential oils for health and illness and don't > vaccinate. I haven't read this book and probably won't (I don't have time > to add another book to the list of books I want to read right now) but will > continue to be as healthy as I possibly can. > > Have a wonderful weekend everyone!! > > Hugs > > Caroline > > > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Julian > Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:21 PM > rawfood > [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > I recently spoke to a dietician about my raw food tendencies. No surprise, > she was skeptical. > Anyway, she brought to my attention to this book called " Health Food > Junkies " about what the authors, Steven Bratman and David Knight, call > 'orthorexia nervosa': the obsession with health food. One of the authors > says he used to have it, what he calls this eating disorder. He used to be > on raw foods and other health diets. Anyway, has anyone here read this book? > I'm getting my library to find me a copy. I'm curious what he says. If > you've read it, what did you think? > > Julian > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 I haven't read it but I've heard about it. One note of caution: Dieticians are known for being very conservative. Nutritionists are more raw-vegan friendly. Judy Pokras vegwriter editor/founder/publisher The Little e-Book of Raw Thanksgiving Recipes Raw Foods News Magazine www.rawfoodsnewsmagazine.com An online magazine celebrating raw vegan cuisine since March 2001, and featuring authoritative info, breaking news, and fun interactive features on the raw vegan lifestyle. Chosen as a 2005 Hot List Item by SRQ Magazine. Recommended by best-selling author Harvey Diamond, Writer's Digest, EnergyTimes, The Vegan Guide to NYC, the Japanese magazine Engine, breathing.com, and the national radio program Carolyn Craft's Inner Wisdom. Have you signed up for our free e-newsletter? When you advertise with us you reach a targeted market. Did you know that switching to a vegan diet helps prevent global warming more than switching to a hybrid car? Check out our new blog! http://RawFoodGrrl.blogspot.com In a message dated 5/26/07 12:23:32 PM, julian_eve1 writes: > I recently spoke to a dietician about my raw food tendencies. No surprise, > she was skeptical. > Anyway, she brought to my attention to this book called " Health Food > Junkies " about what > the authors, Steven Bratman and David Knight, call 'orthorexia nervosa': the > obsession with > health food. One of the authors says he used to have it, what he calls this > eating disorder. He > used to be on raw foods and other health diets. Anyway, has anyone here read > this book? I'm > getting my library to find me a copy. I'm curious what he says. If you've > read it, what did you > think? > > Julian > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Caroline: " Unless we are behaving according to mainstream norms, we are considered to be health freaks " I agree with this whole heartedly! Julian rawfood , " Caroline G Gomes " <cggomes wrote: > > It is interesting that a healthy lifestyle is considered a disorder. Unless > we are behaving according to mainstream norms, we are considered to be > health freaks and now to have a disorder. I'm used to being called a health > freak (among other things LOL!!!) because my daughter and I eat healthy > foods, get adjusted, use essential oils for health and illness and don't > vaccinate. I haven't read this book and probably won't (I don't have time > to add another book to the list of books I want to read right now) but will > continue to be as healthy as I possibly can. > > Have a wonderful weekend everyone!! > > Hugs > > Caroline > > > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Julian > Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:21 PM > rawfood > [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > I recently spoke to a dietician about my raw food tendencies. No surprise, > she was skeptical. > Anyway, she brought to my attention to this book called " Health Food > Junkies " about what the authors, Steven Bratman and David Knight, call > 'orthorexia nervosa': the obsession with health food. One of the authors > says he used to have it, what he calls this eating disorder. He used to be > on raw foods and other health diets. Anyway, has anyone here read this book? > I'm getting my library to find me a copy. I'm curious what he says. If > you've read it, what did you think? > > Julian > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Jeannie: what you say makes sense. Everyone makes their own choices. The dietician told me a story about how when her sister was into raw food she came to a family holiday meal with " her own bread, her own food " . The dietician was appalled by this. Which kind of seems more like an issue for the dietician, and it's not about what her sister is up to. Julian rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > As a food addict. compulsive overeater, I'd much rather choose raw than junk sad. The side effects are so much healthier. :-) I too want to become as healthy as possible. I understand there will always be people trying to convince me or others why what we are doing is wrong and why. All I know is this, for me, is not a diet, it is my lifestyle of choice. The fact that someone writes a book is not going to sway me back to my old " unhealthy " habits. I am adding new healthy habits to my life. I am choosing to be healthy. Others are free to not agree with my lifestyle and are free to find what works for them. I love America. > > Regards, > > > Jeannie > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece > rawfood > Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:00:54 PM > Re: [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > i wont read it. But there are people that get obessesed with their > diets. Just another form of OCD. > > peace > anna > > On 5/26/07, Caroline G Gomes <cggomes wrote: > > It is interesting that a healthy lifestyle is considered a disorder. Unless > > we are behaving according to mainstream norms, we are considered to be > > health freaks and now to have a disorder. I'm used to being called a health > > freak (among other things LOL!!!) because my daughter and I eat healthy > > foods, get adjusted, use essential oils for health and illness and don't > > vaccinate. I haven't read this book and probably won't (I don't have time > > to add another book to the list of books I want to read right now) but will > > continue to be as healthy as I possibly can. > > > > Have a wonderful weekend everyone!! > > > > Hugs > > > > Caroline > > > > > > > > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > > Julian > > Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:21 PM > > rawfood > > [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > > I recently spoke to a dietician about my raw food tendencies. No surprise, > > she was skeptical. > > Anyway, she brought to my attention to this book called " Health Food > > Junkies " about what the authors, Steven Bratman and David Knight, call > > 'orthorexia nervosa': the obsession with health food. One of the authors > > says he used to have it, what he calls this eating disorder. He used to be > > on raw foods and other health diets. Anyway, has anyone here read this book? > > I'm getting my library to find me a copy. I'm curious what he says. If > > you've read it, what did you think? > > > > Julian > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Julian, " dietician was appalled by this.... " LOL this made me chuckle out loud. I agree with your statement, it does feel like, to me as well, that this is the dietician's issue. I find it interesting also that since going 100% raw, I seem to have more friends, " offering " me sad food. lol They seem hurt when I thank them and tell them I am choosing to stay raw. Regards, Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Julian <julian_eve1 rawfood Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:59:17 AM Re: [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies Jeannie: what you say makes sense. Everyone makes their own choices. The dietician told me a story about how when her sister was into raw food she came to a family holiday meal with " her own bread, her own food " . The dietician was appalled by this. Which kind of seems more like an issue for the dietician, and it's not about what her sister is up to. Julian rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > As a food addict. compulsive overeater, I'd much rather choose raw than junk sad. The side effects are so much healthier. :-) I too want to become as healthy as possible. I understand there will always be people trying to convince me or others why what we are doing is wrong and why. All I know is this, for me, is not a diet, it is my lifestyle of choice. The fact that someone writes a book is not going to sway me back to my old " unhealthy " habits. I am adding new healthy habits to my life. I am choosing to be healthy. Others are free to not agree with my lifestyle and are free to find what works for them. I love America. > > Regards, > > > Jeannie > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece > rawfood > Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:00:54 PM > Re: [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > i wont read it. But there are people that get obessesed with their > diets. Just another form of OCD. > > peace > anna > > On 5/26/07, Caroline G Gomes <cggomes wrote: > > It is interesting that a healthy lifestyle is considered a disorder. Unless > > we are behaving according to mainstream norms, we are considered to be > > health freaks and now to have a disorder. I'm used to being called a health > > freak (among other things LOL!!!) because my daughter and I eat healthy > > foods, get adjusted, use essential oils for health and illness and don't > > vaccinate. I haven't read this book and probably won't (I don't have time > > to add another book to the list of books I want to read right now) but will > > continue to be as healthy as I possibly can. > > > > Have a wonderful weekend everyone!! > > > > Hugs > > > > Caroline > > > > > > > > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > > Julian > > Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:21 PM > > rawfood > > [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > > I recently spoke to a dietician about my raw food tendencies. No surprise, > > she was skeptical. > > Anyway, she brought to my attention to this book called " Health Food > > Junkies " about what the authors, Steven Bratman and David Knight, call > > 'orthorexia nervosa': the obsession with health food. One of the authors > > says he used to have it, what he calls this eating disorder. He used to be > > on raw foods and other health diets. Anyway, has anyone here read this book? > > I'm getting my library to find me a copy. I'm curious what he says. If > > you've read it, what did you think? > > > > Julian > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 how true! the offering of junk food ..and i do mean junk food ...is endless at my job...bagels, krispy kremes, mcdonalds, ice cream,its constant...its never so obvious as whenyoure not having any 8-) i just turn it down gently and have some fruit. Every single person around me is obese. Every one except me....but that USED to be me..i loooove that stuff..but it just ain't worth it. They dont make the connections though ...they complain about being fat but just keep eating junk... Very sad actually... One gal went to hospital last week with allergy related asthma....never had it before...scared her to death...caused a panic attack for lack of breath....a tragedy really. Cuz theres no good reason for it. Her 14yr old daughter, beautiful girl, obese too.. very sad. viva la raw food! anna On 5/27/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > Julian, > > " dietician was appalled by this.... " LOL this made me chuckle out loud. I > agree with your statement, it does feel like, to me as well, that this is > the dietician's issue. > > I find it interesting also that since going 100% raw, I seem to have more > friends, " offering " me sad food. lol They seem hurt when I thank them and > tell them I am choosing to stay raw. > > Regards, > > Jeannie > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Julian <julian_eve1 > rawfood > Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:59:17 AM > Re: [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > Jeannie: > what you say makes sense. Everyone makes their own choices. The > dietician told me a story about how when her sister was into raw food > she came to a family holiday meal with " her own bread, her own food " . > The dietician was appalled by this. Which kind of seems more like an > issue for the dietician, and it's not about what her sister is up to. > > Julian > > rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > > > As a food addict. compulsive overeater, I'd much rather choose raw > than junk sad. The side effects are so much healthier. :-) I too > want to become as healthy as possible. I understand there will always > be people trying to convince me or others why what we are doing is > wrong and why. All I know is this, for me, is not a diet, it is my > lifestyle of choice. The fact that someone writes a book is not > going to sway me back to my old " unhealthy " habits. I am adding new > healthy habits to my life. I am choosing to be healthy. Others are > free to not agree with my lifestyle and are free to find what works > for them. I love America. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jeannie > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to > no one. > > > > > > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece > > rawfood > > Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:00:54 PM > > Re: [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > > > > i wont read it. But there are people that get obessesed with their > > diets. Just another form of OCD. > > > > peace > > anna > > > > On 5/26/07, Caroline G Gomes <cggomes wrote: > > > It is interesting that a healthy lifestyle is considered a > disorder. Unless > > > we are behaving according to mainstream norms, we are considered to be > > > health freaks and now to have a disorder. I'm used to being > called a health > > > freak (among other things LOL!!!) because my daughter and I eat > healthy > > > foods, get adjusted, use essential oils for health and illness and > don't > > > vaccinate. I haven't read this book and probably won't (I don't > have time > > > to add another book to the list of books I want to read right now) > but will > > > continue to be as healthy as I possibly can. > > > > > > Have a wonderful weekend everyone!! > > > > > > Hugs > > > > > > Caroline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On > Behalf Of > > > Julian > > > Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:21 PM > > > rawfood > > > [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > > > > I recently spoke to a dietician about my raw food tendencies. No > surprise, > > > she was skeptical. > > > Anyway, she brought to my attention to this book called " Health Food > > > Junkies " about what the authors, Steven Bratman and David Knight, call > > > 'orthorexia nervosa': the obsession with health food. One of the > authors > > > says he used to have it, what he calls this eating disorder. He > used to be > > > on raw foods and other health diets. Anyway, has anyone here read > this book? > > > I'm getting my library to find me a copy. I'm curious what he says. If > > > you've read it, what did you think? > > > > > > Julian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 I love it when people say I'm " obsessed " . If they had to deal with years of PCOS, endometrosis, infertility, very painful periods, heavy bleeding, IBS, gluten intolerance, insulin resistance (all before the age of 25) and so on, they wouldn't feel that way. Sure in my own way, I am obsessed with raw food (and food in general) but its mainly because Western Medicine has done nothing good for me other than assistance in trauma or emergency situations. To be fair, I don't talk about my food choices much with other people unless asked. I wont avoid social situations because of food either - though there are certain things I just wont eat. I do know people with " orthorexia " and no one I know who is on a raw food diet has it. The people I know who have it are mostly on a cooked diet and count calories, and fat grams like the world is coming to an end if they dont. Raw food has freed me from such obsession. Carla On 5/26/07, Julian <julian_eve1 wrote: > > I recently spoke to a dietician about my raw food tendencies. No > surprise, she was skeptical. > Anyway, she brought to my attention to this book called " Health Food > Junkies " about what > the authors, Steven Bratman and David Knight, call 'orthorexia nervosa': > the obsession with > health food. One of the authors says he used to have it, what he calls > this eating disorder. He > used to be on raw foods and other health diets. Anyway, has anyone here > read this book? I'm > getting my library to find me a copy. I'm curious what he says. If you've > read it, what did you > think? > > Recent Activity > > - 24 > New Members<rawfood/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNWR1MHE5BF9TA\ zk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzU1MjAzOTUEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE1NDgyBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzB\ HN0aW1lAzExODAxOTY0Nzc-> > - 1 > New Files<rawfood/files;_ylc=X3oDMTJnOHJ0NWZjBF9TAzk3M\ zU5NzE0BGdycElkAzU1MjAzOTUEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE1NDgyBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZmaWxlcwRzd\ GltZQMxMTgwMTk2NDc3> > > Visit Your Group > <rawfood;_ylc=X3oDMTJlN2Y3b2xmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdy\ cElkAzU1MjAzOTUEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE1NDgyBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTE4MDE5\ NjQ3Nw--> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Yep you can become obsessed with anything doesn't mean it is bad for you but the obsession is unhealthy. Did I say that right? I think so. hee hee Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote: i wont read it. But there are people that get obessesed with their diets. Just another form of OCD. peace anna On 5/26/07, Caroline G Gomes <cggomes wrote: > It is interesting that a healthy lifestyle is considered a disorder. Unless > we are behaving according to mainstream norms, we are considered to be > health freaks and now to have a disorder. I'm used to being called a health > freak (among other things LOL!!!) because my daughter and I eat healthy > foods, get adjusted, use essential oils for health and illness and don't > vaccinate. I haven't read this book and probably won't (I don't have time > to add another book to the list of books I want to read right now) but will > continue to be as healthy as I possibly can. > > Have a wonderful weekend everyone!! > > Hugs > > Caroline > > > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Julian > Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:21 PM > rawfood > [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > I recently spoke to a dietician about my raw food tendencies. No surprise, > she was skeptical. > Anyway, she brought to my attention to this book called " Health Food > Junkies " about what the authors, Steven Bratman and David Knight, call > 'orthorexia nervosa': the obsession with health food. One of the authors > says he used to have it, what he calls this eating disorder. He used to be > on raw foods and other health diets. Anyway, has anyone here read this book? > I'm getting my library to find me a copy. I'm curious what he says. If > you've read it, what did you think? > > Julian > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I feel frustrated because my girlfriend is overweight, drinks a lot of coke and eats a lot of processed vegetarian food. She's always complaining about headaches, skin rashes, lack of energy and depression and I don't want to preach, so I just try to live my life and gently mention that maybe her health problems relate to her eating habits... And diabetes is in her family! She's coming to the conclusion herself that her diet isn't the best. I think it's terrible that processed vegetarian food is dubbed 'healthy', when the ingredients on the package look like they would come out of a laboratory. I always, now, offer to make fruit or vegetable salad for two when I'm making it. I figure if I can get fresh food in her, all the better. Julian rawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote: > > how true! > > the offering of junk food ..and i do mean junk food ...is endless at > my job...bagels, krispy kremes, mcdonalds, ice cream,its > constant...its never so obvious as whenyoure not having any 8-) > > i just turn it down gently and have some fruit. Every single person > around me is obese. Every one except me....but that USED to be me..i > loooove that stuff..but it just ain't worth it. They dont make the > connections though ...they complain about being fat but just keep > eating junk... Very sad actually... One gal went to hospital last week > with allergy related asthma....never had it before...scared her to > death...caused a panic attack for lack of breath....a tragedy really. > Cuz theres no good reason for it. Her 14yr old daughter, beautiful > girl, obese too.. > > very sad. > viva la raw food! > anna > > On 5/27/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > Julian, > > > > " dietician was appalled by this.... " LOL this made me chuckle out loud. I > > agree with your statement, it does feel like, to me as well, that this is > > the dietician's issue. > > > > I find it interesting also that since going 100% raw, I seem to have more > > friends, " offering " me sad food. lol They seem hurt when I thank them and > > tell them I am choosing to stay raw. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jeannie > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > > > > > > Julian <julian_eve1 > > rawfood > > Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:59:17 AM > > Re: [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > > > > Jeannie: > > what you say makes sense. Everyone makes their own choices. The > > dietician told me a story about how when her sister was into raw food > > she came to a family holiday meal with " her own bread, her own food " . > > The dietician was appalled by this. Which kind of seems more like an > > issue for the dietician, and it's not about what her sister is up to. > > > > Julian > > > > rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99@> wrote: > > > > > > As a food addict. compulsive overeater, I'd much rather choose raw > > than junk sad. The side effects are so much healthier. :-) I too > > want to become as healthy as possible. I understand there will always > > be people trying to convince me or others why what we are doing is > > wrong and why. All I know is this, for me, is not a diet, it is my > > lifestyle of choice. The fact that someone writes a book is not > > going to sway me back to my old " unhealthy " habits. I am adding new > > healthy habits to my life. I am choosing to be healthy. Others are > > free to not agree with my lifestyle and are free to find what works > > for them. I love America. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Jeannie > > > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to > > no one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> > > > rawfood > > > Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:00:54 PM > > > Re: [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > > > > > > > i wont read it. But there are people that get obessesed with their > > > diets. Just another form of OCD. > > > > > > peace > > > anna > > > > > > On 5/26/07, Caroline G Gomes <cggomes@> wrote: > > > > It is interesting that a healthy lifestyle is considered a > > disorder. Unless > > > > we are behaving according to mainstream norms, we are considered to be > > > > health freaks and now to have a disorder. I'm used to being > > called a health > > > > freak (among other things LOL!!!) because my daughter and I eat > > healthy > > > > foods, get adjusted, use essential oils for health and illness and > > don't > > > > vaccinate. I haven't read this book and probably won't (I don't > > have time > > > > to add another book to the list of books I want to read right now) > > but will > > > > continue to be as healthy as I possibly can. > > > > > > > > Have a wonderful weekend everyone!! > > > > > > > > Hugs > > > > > > > > Caroline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On > > Behalf Of > > > > Julian > > > > Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:21 PM > > > > rawfood > > > > [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > > > > > > I recently spoke to a dietician about my raw food tendencies. No > > surprise, > > > > she was skeptical. > > > > Anyway, she brought to my attention to this book called " Health Food > > > > Junkies " about what the authors, Steven Bratman and David Knight, call > > > > 'orthorexia nervosa': the obsession with health food. One of the > > authors > > > > says he used to have it, what he calls this eating disorder. He > > used to be > > > > on raw foods and other health diets. Anyway, has anyone here read > > this book? > > > > I'm getting my library to find me a copy. I'm curious what he says. If > > > > you've read it, what did you think? > > > > > > > > Julian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Julian, I totally agree with you about processed foods make people not healthy...I prepare each meal with fresh herbs and organic ingredients...my dream is to build my organic garden (one day) when I move from NYC...all the best to everyone in the group...have a great evening, yOkO Julian <julian_eve1 wrote: I feel frustrated because my girlfriend is overweight, drinks a lot of coke and eats a lot of processed vegetarian food. She's always complaining about headaches, skin rashes, lack of energy and depression and I don't want to preach, so I just try to live my life and gently mention that maybe her health problems relate to her eating habits... And diabetes is in her family! She's coming to the conclusion herself that her diet isn't the best. I think it's terrible that processed vegetarian food is dubbed 'healthy', when the ingredients on the package look like they would come out of a laboratory. I always, now, offer to make fruit or vegetable salad for two when I'm making it. I figure if I can get fresh food in her, all the better. Julian rawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote: > > how true! > > the offering of junk food ..and i do mean junk food ...is endless at > my job...bagels, krispy kremes, mcdonalds, ice cream,its > constant...its never so obvious as whenyoure not having any 8-) > > i just turn it down gently and have some fruit. Every single person > around me is obese. Every one except me....but that USED to be me..i > loooove that stuff..but it just ain't worth it. They dont make the > connections though ...they complain about being fat but just keep > eating junk... Very sad actually... One gal went to hospital last week > with allergy related asthma....never had it before...scared her to > death...caused a panic attack for lack of breath....a tragedy really. > Cuz theres no good reason for it. Her 14yr old daughter, beautiful > girl, obese too.. > > very sad. > viva la raw food! > anna > > On 5/27/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > Julian, > > > > " dietician was appalled by this.... " LOL this made me chuckle out loud. I > > agree with your statement, it does feel like, to me as well, that this is > > the dietician's issue. > > > > I find it interesting also that since going 100% raw, I seem to have more > > friends, " offering " me sad food. lol They seem hurt when I thank them and > > tell them I am choosing to stay raw. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jeannie > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > > > > > > Julian <julian_eve1 > > rawfood > > Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:59:17 AM > > Re: [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > > > > Jeannie: > > what you say makes sense. Everyone makes their own choices. The > > dietician told me a story about how when her sister was into raw food > > she came to a family holiday meal with " her own bread, her own food " . > > The dietician was appalled by this. Which kind of seems more like an > > issue for the dietician, and it's not about what her sister is up to. > > > > Julian > > > > rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99@> wrote: > > > > > > As a food addict. compulsive overeater, I'd much rather choose raw > > than junk sad. The side effects are so much healthier. :-) I too > > want to become as healthy as possible. I understand there will always > > be people trying to convince me or others why what we are doing is > > wrong and why. All I know is this, for me, is not a diet, it is my > > lifestyle of choice. The fact that someone writes a book is not > > going to sway me back to my old " unhealthy " habits. I am adding new > > healthy habits to my life. I am choosing to be healthy. Others are > > free to not agree with my lifestyle and are free to find what works > > for them. I love America. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Jeannie > > > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to > > no one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> > > > rawfood > > > Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:00:54 PM > > > Re: [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > > > > > > > i wont read it. But there are people that get obessesed with their > > > diets. Just another form of OCD. > > > > > > peace > > > anna > > > > > > On 5/26/07, Caroline G Gomes <cggomes@> wrote: > > > > It is interesting that a healthy lifestyle is considered a > > disorder. Unless > > > > we are behaving according to mainstream norms, we are considered to be > > > > health freaks and now to have a disorder. I'm used to being > > called a health > > > > freak (among other things LOL!!!) because my daughter and I eat > > healthy > > > > foods, get adjusted, use essential oils for health and illness and > > don't > > > > vaccinate. I haven't read this book and probably won't (I don't > > have time > > > > to add another book to the list of books I want to read right now) > > but will > > > > continue to be as healthy as I possibly can. > > > > > > > > Have a wonderful weekend everyone!! > > > > > > > > Hugs > > > > > > > > Caroline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On > > Behalf Of > > > > Julian > > > > Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:21 PM > > > > rawfood > > > > [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > > > > > > I recently spoke to a dietician about my raw food tendencies. No > > surprise, > > > > she was skeptical. > > > > Anyway, she brought to my attention to this book called " Health Food > > > > Junkies " about what the authors, Steven Bratman and David Knight, call > > > > 'orthorexia nervosa': the obsession with health food. One of the > > authors > > > > says he used to have it, what he calls this eating disorder. He > > used to be > > > > on raw foods and other health diets. Anyway, has anyone here read > > this book? > > > > I'm getting my library to find me a copy. I'm curious what he says. If > > > > you've read it, what did you think? > > > > > > > > Julian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 rawfood , " Julian " <julian_eve1 wrote: > > I feel frustrated because my girlfriend is overweight, drinks a lot of coke and eats a lot of > processed vegetarian food. She's always complaining about headaches, skin rashes, lack of > energy and depression and I don't want to preach, so I just try to live my life and gently > mention that maybe her health problems relate to her eating habits... [...] Perhaps you could use the opportunity provided by recent stories in the media to start these conversations. In this way, you are not the messenger, but rather sharing your surprise at the latest crazy food scandal. And there's always something! Most recent may be the benzoate in soft drinks: http://snipurl.com/1mnef -Erin www.zenpawn.com/vegblog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Julian, I can understand your frustration. It sounds liek you are handling it in a good way though because it is perfect to offer to make your fruit or salads for two and just set an example because if you were 'preachy' then that would probably just turn her off. Just remember in the end it has to be her choice to make those changes. Julian <julian_eve1 wrote: I feel frustrated because my girlfriend is overweight, drinks a lot of coke and eats a lot of processed vegetarian food. She's always complaining about headaches, skin rashes, lack of energy and depression and I don't want to preach, so I just try to live my life and gently mention that maybe her health problems relate to her eating habits... And diabetes is in her family! She's coming to the conclusion herself that her diet isn't the best. I think it's terrible that processed vegetarian food is dubbed 'healthy', when the ingredients on the package look like they would come out of a laboratory. I always, now, offer to make fruit or vegetable salad for two when I'm making it. I figure if I can get fresh food in her, all the better. Julian rawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote: > > how true! > > the offering of junk food ..and i do mean junk food ...is endless at > my job...bagels, krispy kremes, mcdonalds, ice cream,its > constant...its never so obvious as whenyoure not having any 8-) > > i just turn it down gently and have some fruit. Every single person > around me is obese. Every one except me....but that USED to be me..i > loooove that stuff..but it just ain't worth it. They dont make the > connections though ...they complain about being fat but just keep > eating junk... Very sad actually... One gal went to hospital last week > with allergy related asthma....never had it before...scared her to > death...caused a panic attack for lack of breath....a tragedy really. > Cuz theres no good reason for it. Her 14yr old daughter, beautiful > girl, obese too.. > > very sad. > viva la raw food! > anna > > On 5/27/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > Julian, > > > > " dietician was appalled by this.... " LOL this made me chuckle out loud. I > > agree with your statement, it does feel like, to me as well, that this is > > the dietician's issue. > > > > I find it interesting also that since going 100% raw, I seem to have more > > friends, " offering " me sad food. lol They seem hurt when I thank them and > > tell them I am choosing to stay raw. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jeannie > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > > > > > > Julian <julian_eve1 > > rawfood > > Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:59:17 AM > > Re: [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > > > > Jeannie: > > what you say makes sense. Everyone makes their own choices. The > > dietician told me a story about how when her sister was into raw food > > she came to a family holiday meal with " her own bread, her own food " . > > The dietician was appalled by this. Which kind of seems more like an > > issue for the dietician, and it's not about what her sister is up to. > > > > Julian > > > > rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99@> wrote: > > > > > > As a food addict. compulsive overeater, I'd much rather choose raw > > than junk sad. The side effects are so much healthier. :-) I too > > want to become as healthy as possible. I understand there will always > > be people trying to convince me or others why what we are doing is > > wrong and why. All I know is this, for me, is not a diet, it is my > > lifestyle of choice. The fact that someone writes a book is not > > going to sway me back to my old " unhealthy " habits. I am adding new > > healthy habits to my life. I am choosing to be healthy. Others are > > free to not agree with my lifestyle and are free to find what works > > for them. I love America. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Jeannie > > > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to > > no one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece@> > > > rawfood > > > Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:00:54 PM > > > Re: [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > > > > > > > i wont read it. But there are people that get obessesed with their > > > diets. Just another form of OCD. > > > > > > peace > > > anna > > > > > > On 5/26/07, Caroline G Gomes <cggomes@> wrote: > > > > It is interesting that a healthy lifestyle is considered a > > disorder. Unless > > > > we are behaving according to mainstream norms, we are considered to be > > > > health freaks and now to have a disorder. I'm used to being > > called a health > > > > freak (among other things LOL!!!) because my daughter and I eat > > healthy > > > > foods, get adjusted, use essential oils for health and illness and > > don't > > > > vaccinate. I haven't read this book and probably won't (I don't > > have time > > > > to add another book to the list of books I want to read right now) > > but will > > > > continue to be as healthy as I possibly can. > > > > > > > > Have a wonderful weekend everyone!! > > > > > > > > Hugs > > > > > > > > Caroline > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On > > Behalf Of > > > > Julian > > > > Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:21 PM > > > > rawfood > > > > [Raw Food] Book: Health food junkies > > > > > > > > I recently spoke to a dietician about my raw food tendencies. No > > surprise, > > > > she was skeptical. > > > > Anyway, she brought to my attention to this book called " Health Food > > > > Junkies " about what the authors, Steven Bratman and David Knight, call > > > > 'orthorexia nervosa': the obsession with health food. One of the > > authors > > > > says he used to have it, what he calls this eating disorder. He > > used to be > > > > on raw foods and other health diets. Anyway, has anyone here read > > this book? > > > > I'm getting my library to find me a copy. I'm curious what he says. If > > > > you've read it, what did you think? > > > > > > > > Julian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I feel your frustration. I have a lot of that sort of thing going on in my family too. It just kills me to see someone with high cholesterol and high blood pressure, who has to take a bunch of meds, eating a hamburger! ugh! But I have to remind myself that junk food is physically addicting. It's like telling an alcoholic they should drink less. They already know it (or are in denial) but just can't do it until they are ready, no matter how much you try to help them. Try not to drive yourself crazy about it, keep setting the good example without nagging, and hope for the best! It's all we can do. Best wishes! Judy rawfood , " Julian " <julian_eve1 wrote: > > I feel frustrated because my girlfriend is overweight, drinks a lot of coke and eats a lot of > processed vegetarian food. She's always complaining about headaches, skin rashes, lack of oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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